Which TV show might be called prog?
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Topic: Which TV show might be called prog?
Posted By: paganinio
Subject: Which TV show might be called prog?
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 12:06
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Why some popular shows weren't included: House likes The Rolling Stones and Van Halen, and blues, so he's out. I bet he's a psychedelia fan from all the drug he takes. The Wire plays gansta rap in many episodes, so it's out. My vote is CSI: Miami. High-technology is always progressive for me, and Miami seems to have quite a few prog bands there? |
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Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:01
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Arrested Development easily. The humor in that show is so well crafted much like the music of prog. It goes over the head of many and requires multiple viewings to fully grasp everything in its entirety.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:05
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paganinio wrote:Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:07
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I think Malcolm in the Middle deserves a nod.
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:08
Agreed. I think Lost is really prog-ish too, especially some of the fans and just how much they over-analyze everything in that show (me included). So that's where my vote went. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:21
| Gilmore Girls! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:30
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Shows like CSI:Miami, Star Trek: TNG; and Battlestar Galactica might fall under Neo-prog since they are derivative of their predecessors. I never saw Arrested Development, but by the descriptions that I have read regarding it, it most closely follows the progressive banner as far as being really popular with its fan but basically unwatched and unknown by everyone else. 24 is probably also prog from the point of view of the "real" time aspect of the series, although as much as I enjoy it, 24 really isn't much more than a violent James Bond retread. Stargate SG-1 is one of my favorite sci-fi programs but is still kind of a Star Trek follower. I don't know Heroes so I can't say much on that. Lost seems somewhat progressive too, although I haven't watched it either. The X Files was quite progressive for its time period. I've only seen the first season and a half, but from my readings on the show and what I have seen I think that this one will get my vote. -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:43
What, no Metalocalypse? 
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:45
Until it fell up its own arse, X Files was truly groundbreaking and progressive. Still, at least it lasted about seven seasons until it went bad, unlike Heroes, which I utterly gave up on towards the end of last season. You could reduce that show to about five episodes a season without losing anything at all. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 13:52
The Sopranos ... the most musical TV show ever. 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:08
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I'm not sure about any of these. But how about british comedy 'The League of Gentlemen' not sure why but I will think about it?
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Posted By: rpe9p
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:28
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:35
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South Park, for a number of reasons. 1. It's contraversial. Because it's so directly offensive, yet pulled off in a clever and sophisticated way, lots of people either hate it or just don't get it. However, the fans are extremely loyal. Much like Prog. 2. It gets progressively more and more offensive and direct. The best example for me would be comparing the Pilot episode (Cartman Gets An Anal Probe) and the debut episode of season twelve (forgotten the name now). Cartman Gets and Anal Probe may sound pretty nasty, but in fact it just has lots of swearing and vulgarity. The latter, however, actually takes a massive risk in making fun of poverty sufferers in Nigeria. Bold move, yes, but they actually made it so if you thought for a second, they are actually making fun of the American government. 3. They take such a simple theme and blow it WAY out of proportion, even moreso than The Simpsons. This is, however, a very good thing. Much like Prog if you ask me. I could name some more, but you get the idea... ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:36
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I also should add, reading the above post, that you do need to watch an episode at three times before fully appreciating the political mockery involved.
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 14:54
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Of the shows in that list, Arrested Development. The Simpsons in it's prime was definitely a show that took chances and was consistently funny. South Park definitely explores alot of territory. Ren and Stimpy is another progressive cartoon show. I'd consider the original Star Trek "prog" in how it included lots of social commentary but disguised it. Also pushed new ground with the first interracial kiss on television. The newer Treks are cool, but basically brought similar ideas to newer and younger audiences. The mention of Malcolm In The Middle made me remember in one episode where the father was looking through records and mentioned King Crimson. Edit: The biggest prog comedy may be Monty Python's Flying Circus. I'm going to watch "And Now For Something Completely Different" tonight. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 15:23
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Other, but not known outside of Germany. "Raumpatrouille" ("Space Patrol"), a German sci-fi series with sadly only seven episodes. The series was from 1966 and still in black and white. It was very popular in Germany, and it has been rerun several times. The title melody was quite proggy already. But just listen for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8RIV3xzffI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8RIV3xzffI The series has somewhat of a cult status in Germany. The interior of the spaceship was made from anything the designer team of the series could lay hand on; of special fame is the flat iron, which is the spaceship's main switch. You can see it in this little video excerpt from the series between 1:50 and 2:00. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFv5B1AAuBw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFv5B1AAuBw -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 15:43
| from the list X Files but if Outer Limits was on the list I would go for that... really prog... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 16:57
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24 was pretty prog when it came out, Twin Peaks as well, others include Kung Fu, MASH, Monty Python's Flying Circus, Roseanne, Twilight Zone anyone remember James Burke's Connections ? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:08
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Twin Peaks was very kraut/electronic prog. Monty Python was RIO a la Samla Mamma with hints of Canterbury. Mash was Crossover. South Park is Avant a la Mr. Bungle. The Sopranos was RPI (the heavier side of it). Star Trek was really Gong. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:09
Haha, yeah, that was awesome. -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:09
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:10
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you have to be kidding me...
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 17:56
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Where is Two and Half Men?
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:03
That's the funniest thing I've seen all day. (Whether you were serious or not)
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 18:35
Well half and half. I love the show though. Some of the best comedy writing on the planet.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 22:08
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Family Guy It DOES have random segments after all....  |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 22:54
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Stargate SG-1: it has a neat premise but it goes on too long and often doesn't make sense. :P ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 25 2009 at 22:57
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Lost. Complex writing, beautifully developed characters and wonderful use of flashbacks. Difficult to digest after a viewing or two but gripping as hell after multiple viewings ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 26 2009 at 00:18
| ^ nice shot of Zep |
Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:16
| If CSI: Miami is prog, than I guess the dialogue is a cheesy keyboard solo that lasts for 45 minutes |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:26
Very good summary.  -------------
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:51
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Anything where the cinematography takes command of the overall feel of the show. Something where the tools involved are used as more than just tools. The writing doesn't have to make sense and often is overly complicated (Yes or Mars Volta) - but I think in this case it would be a show for people who make shows (like prog is music for people who make music, 9 times out of 10, or have a fetish for the art and technique that goes into it) So... none of these. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 07:53
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^ Good post... so... let's equate our favourite directors with different prog genres! Tarkovsky: electronic prog (very poetic, very linear), sometimes symphonic a la Camel, sometimes experimental and or post-rock. Fellini: RPI, no question about it. Bergman: eclectic a la King Crimson Lynch: psychedelic Almodovar: RPI, Crossover Kubrick: Eclectic, sometimes Prog-Folk |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 27 2009 at 08:41
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Battlestar Galactica (ONLY the new series) is the most sophisticated and thoughfully crafted TV I've ever seen, so that takes my vote.
Although, if The Sopranos were on the list, that would get mine hands down... ------------- 
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:03
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This: http://www.nihonreview.com/anime/legend-of-the-galactic-heroes/ - http://www.nihonreview.com/anime/legend-of-the-galactic-heroes/
I thought most japanese animation was childish , but this series changed my mind: Thought provoking , epic and no one knows about it = prog.
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: June 29 2009 at 22:01
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From the fact that CSI received ZERO vote here, I think the PA community seems hostile towards popularity. I mean, Lost and X-Files are also popular of course, but CSI was the most viewed drama for many years. Just because prog is not popular, doesn't mean anything that is popular must not be prog. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:21
Well, the 60's French TV show 'Les Compagnons de Baphomet' ('Baphomet's Companions') has a disquieting background, just like 'Belphegor' and, let's say it, a lot of Zeuhl bands. But I wonder if the Klingons and the Goa-uld would understand Kobaļan? After all, some episodes of Star Trek: TNG could have an OST by Magma. Makes me remember about the aborted version of Dune by Jodorowsky: he thought about Pink Floyd and Magma to make the music. Anyway, I think House could be R.I.O.: this character knows how to nag people, just like the whole movement (in case someone misses it, I LOVE R.I.O., allright?) |
Posted By: mattmcl
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:51
| I vote for Twin Peaks. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 30 2009 at 12:41
Lost makes me think of a band taking influences from sympho-prog, prog-electronic, a bit of R.I.O.... and getting lost on stage because of too many solos and everyone improvising at the same time. A good thing at the start, but I'm not sure the writers really know where to go and how to go. By the way, I agree with the description of CSI:Miami as "a cheesy 45 minutes keyboard solo". That show is not really good. Plus, it's happening in Miami. Very bad. I said. |
Posted By: progvortex
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 18:54
I find Ren and Stimpy rather progressive as well for some odd reason. And, yes, I remember that episode of Malcolm in the Middle where they mentioned King Crimson. My friend called me up right away: King Crimson! They mentioned King Crimson on TV! ------------- Life is like a beanstalk... isn't it? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 18:58
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083505/ - The Young Ones! Very RIO..
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 19:01
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The X-Files for sure...although honorable mention must go to BG and ST:TNG ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 19:02
Exactly. What kind of stupid poll is this? I would have chosen House easily. Now I don't have the choice. |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: July 12 2009 at 19:53
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Dethklok ...
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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 04:03
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Lost. The show is very proggy and I also think it will fit in any fan-made music video to the sounds of Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 11:08
| I think I too would vote for the X Files, I have seasons 1-8 and I have rented( is that proper grammar?) 9, but it was nowhere near as good as the first 7 seasons. I have a lot of honorable mentions from this poll though, as well as all those awesome old scifi shows like The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, and Tales From the Darkside. I almost forgot Doctor Who. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 12:01
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An interesting note on Star Trek The Next Generation, there was a episode where Data was listening to several classical pieces simultaneously and that inspired the guy who developed Quicktime, which led to the development of MP3. According to a documentary I saw... |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 12:39
No sh*t?  That's awesome! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 12:49
I'm working from memory so I might have something not quite right, but it was The Science Of Star Trek, narrated by William Shatner. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 15:42
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^ I'll have to check that out. Thank you for peeking my interest!
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 13 2009 at 17:22
| It may not be the most progressive TV show, but I would also like to mention Monk. |
Posted By: joelossia
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 10:37
| I said Heroes cause last season confused the f*** out of me! |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: July 15 2009 at 14:51
The Wire...but that's not TV, it's HBO.
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: July 19 2009 at 21:13
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Battlestar Gallactica (the newer version) very thought provoking and a mind blowing premise at the series end. Only bettered imho by Babylon 5. These two programs along with The X Files are my most proggiest moments on TV. ------------- 
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