best sax in prog bands
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Topic: best sax in prog bands
Posted By: greenback
Subject: best sax in prog bands
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 23:22
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the criterias are: -sound quality -melodies -technical performance
I obviously chose Solution! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 23:23
Where's Ulf of the Flower Kings? 
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 23:24
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Zappa no doubt. TMV's use of the sax is really great too, and i hope
they use the instrument more in their later albums, it mixes very well.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 05 2005 at 23:26
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I'm more sorry because I forgot gentle giant! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Man Overboard wrote:Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 00:07
| My vote went to Gong. |
Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 00:40
| And mine to Happy The Man. |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 02:00
David ... Mr Jackson, if you're nasty  ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 03:06
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Mel. Lifetime achievement award. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 03:17
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Oh you nasty boy Mine would be David Jackson too! But he wasn't on the list so I supported the guy from Supertramp, is that John Helliwell or something? I voted for him because the sax is an integral part on the Supertramp albums, and usually I don't like the sax a lot in progressive rock, but in Supertramp I quite like it. Also a great sax performance: Pink Floyd on the track Shine On You Crazy Diamond. And in Starless by King Crimson. I like " uninhibited " saxplayers in particular, like David Jackson(Van der Graaf Generator), Andy MacKay (Roxy Music) and Chris Wood (Traffic). I prefer that above great technique. I hate the Kenny G - kind of playing. Plus I like Branford Marsalis' tenorsax on some Sting-albums. |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 03:19
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VdGG - David 'Jaxon'
But where is the late,great Dick Heckstall-Smith of Colosseum in the poll? ------------- 
Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 03:27
| My vote goes to John Helliwell (Supertramp) |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 05:00
Too much to choose ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: Sound_Chaser
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 06:39
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I vote for King Crimson They have many great songs with good sax work. 21st Century Schizoid man any one? (And Starless is yust to great the end blows me awey every time) Pink Floyd have some good ones to, but K.C. have more so they are my vote. |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 06:40
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SOYCD - FLOYD (naturally)
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Posted By: nick63
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 08:38
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Dick Parry, the shoe horse man, because his contribution to the Dark Side, Laura Fowles, she plays in the Guy Manning band, a Prog Band from Leeds, with wonderful Prog albums. Mel Collins, he played in so many bands, King Crimson, Camel, Alan Parsons, Anthonny Phillips, Gary Brooker, Bryan Ferry, Roger Waters, Rick Wright, Michal Kamen, No-Man (a Steve Wilson project) etc.etc. David Sanborn, a jazz oriented player, but also with Carly Simon, the Stones, the Eagles, Stelley Dan, Jeff Beck, Roger Waters, Eric Clapton and and... ------------- Nick from the lovely South of the Netherlands |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 11:47
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Saxophone tends to be used as an instrument for soloing or flourishes
in rock/prog rather than making up the bulk of the sound. For this
reason I've always had a lot of time for Van Der Graaf Generator, as
the sax+organ setup creates an instantly recognisable sound, and a damn
good one too. My favourite sax player, however, would have to be Didier Malherbe of Gong. His work always shone in whatever lineup he was involved with. He was at home chugging away on a simple riff or letting rip with a corking, and often slightly mad-sounding solo. Also, I feel the band incorporated his sax parts into their arrangements very effectively. So Gong get my vote. (Though I'd like to point out that some of my very favourite sax work can be found on the album "Manna/Mirage" by the Muffins) |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 11:56
| IQ - Subterranea and Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here are 2 albums that stand out for me as regards sax playing. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 12:54
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John Bolton of Protokaw
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:12
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King Crimson Then, JT, VDGG, GG, PF, Gong, all mixed together in second. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 13:32
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Tough call - outstanding sax players are actually pretty rare in prog, most double on other reeds or keyboards. My vote went to Henry Cow for Geoff Leigh's contributions to Leg End. Other outstanding players: Elton Dean - Soft Machine Ian Underwood - MOI David Jackson - VDGG Man Erg already pointed out the omission of Dick Heckstall-Smith. I'd also have to query the absenece of Kraan's Johannes Pappert, whose remarkable tone and phrasing make Kraan Live a true classic. Didier Malherbe IMO is more outstanding as a flautist than as a saxophonist, though his alto work is very good indeed. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:15
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Zappa: Underwood
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 18:06
Soft Machine of course
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 19:55
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Dick Heckstall-Smith from Colosseum ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: sonic_assassin
Date Posted: September 04 2005 at 20:15
| Where's Nik? |
Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 02:23
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song:soycd Artist:mel band: KC ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Philrod/?chartstyle=Geldropdown-small"> 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 07:35
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As Colosseum or Audience (an excellent, sort of VDGG lite 70s band) aren't here, it has to be VDGG. The sax solos really do add something to the song, in things like 'Man Erg' (maybe my fave sax solo ever) and 'Scorched Earth'. |
Posted By: Off Centre
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 08:11
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The two Ian's... McDonald & Underwood are my favourites, but then
of course there's Elton Dean, sh*t, cant leave him out, Phil Shulman as
well, a very tasteful and subtle player in my opinion, David 'Jaxon'
god, what a sound... I cant choose one, sorry.  But wait, does this guy count, Harold McNair? If so, he's my choice!!! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 08:14
Supertramp! Then followed by VDGG, Gong and KC ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 09:46
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yesterday I listened to my newly bought remastered editions of
"Godbluff" and "Still Life", so my choice is obvious... |
Posted By: Ben2112
Date Posted: September 05 2005 at 20:58
| While probably not the most proficient of sax players, I absolutely LOVE Phil Schulman's work in the early Giant. Especially the album Three Friends: I love the guitar and sax interplay on Working All Day, and especially that killer guitar/sax unison riff on Peel The Paint. |
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 07:51
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My vote is to Monsieur Bloomdido Bad De Grasse - Didier Malherbe, from Gong. I love Mel Collins' work with Crimson and Camel, Elton Dean with Soft Machine, but I think that Malherbe was the best saxophonist at the prog scene. ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 09:34
I agree to that. a sax player that should be named too though is Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru, Brainstorm and Embryo. he is also an excellent lead guitarist; a somewhat unusual combination -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 10:42
| Did Harold McNair play sax on the 'Airforce' album with Ginger Baker? If so, I agree- there's some great sax playing on that. I know his flute work was on many albums though, like 'The Tumbler' by John Martyn and 'Asylum' by Cressida. |
Posted By: Off Centre
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 11:09
He did, along with Chris Wood and Graham Bond. |
Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: September 06 2005 at 13:44
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VDGG - Mr. Jackson RoX! ------------- Most listened albums last week 
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 19:06
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I would say the Danish, check out Secret Oyster in
the 70's, Johannes Schonning in the 80's, they've got that nocturnal swooze that cant be matched.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 08 2005 at 20:07
I GREE!!!!  I LOVE GONG WITH BLOOMDDIDO BAD DE
GRASSE EVEN THE LATEST GONG CDS WITH BAD DE GRASSE ARE EXCELLENT THANKS TO BLOOMDDIDO
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Posted By: the dragon
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 04:37
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KC ------------- Still alive... |
Posted By: jitu
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 04:48
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PF ------------- 
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 04:53
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zappa
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Posted By: sgrurru
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 10:14
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Celeste ------------- Da qui messere si domina la valle |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 09 2005 at 23:38
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Best Sax Prog song ever?
Passport - Registration O from Passport - Second
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Posted By: MustShaveBeard
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 16:32
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Certainly David Jackson. He's what God made the sax for. The solo in "Man-Erg" is absolutely divine. ------------- Your life or your lupins!!! |
Posted By: mrzero
Date Posted: September 11 2005 at 17:11
| Magma, Zappa, Soft Machine, Osanna, Celeste, King Crimson, Henry Cow, VDGG, Muffins, Happy the Man, Naked City. THE saxophone masters |
Posted By: Prodigal
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 17:26
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1. Ian McDonald 2. Dick Parry 3. Mel Collins |
Posted By: Simkim
Date Posted: September 18 2005 at 20:14
I agree! In fact, maybe one could say that the usual guitar's role is performed in VDGG by the sax. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 16:22
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Gong Passport as second ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: Cygnus X-1
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 16:35
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Floyd- especialy on DSOTM and WYWH ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Bodins/?chartstyle=DarkSide5Big"> 
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Posted By: Dan Yaron
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 16:41
| Happy The Man! |
Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: October 17 2005 at 17:33
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I can't believe you forgot Roxy Music!!! ------------- 50 tonne angel falls to the earth... |