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Topic: Your favourite Jethro Tull bassist?
Posted By: St.Cleve Chronicle
Subject: Your favourite Jethro Tull bassist?
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 08:04
I don't know how I came to think of this, but here it is anyway. Jethro Tull has had many great bassists over the years, and the question is: who do you think is the best? This is not about who is the definitive 4 (or 5 or 6) stringer, but whose playing do you find the most pleasing.

Here's a little introduction of most of the nominees. Quite useless, as you propably know your choice already, but maybe I just like to write stuff, I don't know.

Glenn Cornick played on the classic album Stand up. If bass power-chords played on a jazzy rendition of a J.S.Bach classic is your cup of tea, this is likely to be your number 1 choice.
Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond hardly needs to be introduced. But neither do the other players here, so a few words on him could be appropriate too. He played on many of the groups masterpieces (Thick as a brick, Aqualung, that sort of thing). Not only was his audio-side great, but he also brought colour (kinda) to the live performances with his zebra-striped bass.
John Glascock was there, when after the rather questionable efforts War child and Too old to rock n' roll... the group returned to the top. Songs from the wood and Heavy horses are two classic albums featuring his wonderful playing.
Ian Anderson handled the bass guitar duties on most of Stormwatch. The guy plays guitar, flute, sax, trumpet, keyboards, drums, harmonica, sings extremely well and writes awesome songs - and here he shows he can come up with some damn good b-lines as well.
Dave Pegg is Jethro's longest standing bassist. Appears on the classics Broadsword and A crest of a knave. Used fretless too, occasionally for a cool, elastic effect.

What do you think?



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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 09:43
Love Pegg's fretless work on Uniform ("A") in particular and live , he was a grimacing hoot!

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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 10:49
Glen Cornick rocks!

He gets my vote 


Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 11:16
Awesome poll. Great point about Stand Up, and yeah that is why Cornick gets my vote. So many fluid basslines on that entire album

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:06
oh man... that is easy..

Glen Cornick Clap


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:15
Great poll. Glascock for me because he played on the albums which, IMO, represent the finest era of the band.

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:55
John Glascock (75-79)


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:58
C`mon Ian Anderson was Tull`s greatest bassman. Ask Barrimore Barlow after John Glscock was fired during the recording of Stormwatch.
( I`m kidding. He actually drove Barlow out of his mind )
I still voted for Ian though Big smile


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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:05
^ Didn't Glascock die during the recording of Stormwatch?

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:17
Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

^ Didn't Glascock die during the recording of Stormwatch?
No Anderson fired him because of his destructive lifestyle. He died on Nov 17 1979 at his home as a result of complications of a heart operation.


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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:21
Ok I knew it was around the time the album was recorded, wasn't aware of that bit of essential informationEmbarrassed

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 15:08
John Glascock, without whom Songs from the Wood and Heavy Horses would not be quite so splendid. Dave Pegg is probably the best bassist of the lot, but he doesn't play on any of my favourite Tull albums (barring A Little Light Music).

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 15:53
Originally posted by mr.cub mr.cub wrote:

Ok I knew it was around the time the album was recorded, wasn't aware of that bit of essential informationEmbarrassed
. Anderson had been giving Glacock repeated warnings during the Heavy Horses tour to refrain from the drinking & partying and actually replaced him with another bassist, Tony Williams for the latter part of the tour. He was replaced by Dave Pegg on the Stormwatch tour during which time he passed away. Coincidentally they were playing their third to last gig of the first leg of the Stormwatch tour on the night Glascock passed away.


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Posted By: akiko
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 17:11
The following was copied from the official JT website:  "John had been with Jethro Tull three years, when he became gravely ill on the Heavy Horses European tour. It was discovered that a tooth infection had spread to his heart, seriously damaging a weak valve, a condition he had inherited from his father. He underwent major heart surgery, to replace the valve, but he never totally recovered. John missed the 1978 Bursting Out tour in the U.S in the fall of 1978, then returned for the second leg the following spring. He played his last gig on May 1, 1979, in San Antonio, Texas, three years to the day of his first gig with Jethro Tull. John's condition deteriorated during the recording of the Stormwatch album, forcing him to leave Jethro Tull.
He was replaced by http://www.j-tull.com/musicians/pastmembers/davepegg.html - David Pegg .

On November 17, 1979, after his body ultimately rejected the new valve placed in his heart, John Glascock died. The suddenness of his death, especially at his young age was a terrible and lasting shock to the many people who loved him, and didn't get to say goodbye. To this day he is sadly missed."

http://www.j-tull.com/musicians/pastmembers/johnglascock.html


Posted By: bov
Date Posted: April 07 2009 at 06:18
Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond, but only because "The hare who lost his spectacle" is the best thing ever produced by Jethro Tull.

Smile


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 07 2009 at 09:54
Originally posted by akiko akiko wrote:

The following was copied from the official JT website:  "John had been with Jethro Tull three years, when he became gravely ill on the Heavy Horses European tour. It was discovered that a tooth infection had spread to his heart, seriously damaging a weak valve, a condition he had inherited from his father. He underwent major heart surgery, to replace the valve, but he never totally recovered. John missed the 1978 Bursting Out tour in the U.S in the fall of 1978, then returned for the second leg the following spring. He played his last gig on May 1, 1979, in San Antonio, Texas, three years to the day of his first gig with Jethro Tull. John's condition deteriorated during the recording of the Stormwatch album, forcing him to leave Jethro Tull.
He was replaced by http://www.j-tull.com/musicians/pastmembers/davepegg.html - David Pegg .

On November 17, 1979, after his body ultimately rejected the new valve placed in his heart, John Glascock died. The suddenness of his death, especially at his young age was a terrible and lasting shock to the many people who loved him, and didn't get to say goodbye. To this day he is sadly missed."

http://www.j-tull.com/musicians/pastmembers/johnglascock.html
Yeah. Anderson was, more than anything, concerned about Glascock`s deteriorating health ( a result of the incessant drinking in particular amongst  who knows what else which didn`t agree with his inherited condition)  which is why he ultimately dismissed him from the band with remuneration. They were old friends.
 I guess I was a little harsh in using the word  " fired " earlier on because the decision was very amicable and for Glascock`s own good. Sorry about that.Embarrassed
It`s also interesting to note that the member of the band that took it the hardest was Barriemore Barlow who informed Anderson shortly after Glascock`s death that he would not be able to continue and left the band in early 1980 just before all the "A" business we all know about.


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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 07 2009 at 11:54
^ Ok thanks for the info from their site and again for the clarification.Smile 
 
Wow Jeffrey getting a lot of love on this poll...with good reason. I just prefer Cornick Big smile


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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 00:38
A'Jeffrey. A'duh. The finest bass player who ever lived, perhaps, right up there with The Entwhistler. Read my "Minstrel in the Gallery" review if you don't believe. Or read my reviews anyway, I don't care. 

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:02
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

A'Jeffrey. A'duh. The finest bass player who ever lived, perhaps, right up there with The Entwhistler. Read my "Minstrel in the Gallery" review if you don't believe. Or read my reviews anyway, I don't care. 
I live in Westmount which is right next to the City Of Montréal and that photo on your signature was definitely taken somewhere in Montréal because I`ve seen the guy in the picture playing chess in the malls from time to time. I`m 98 % sure it`s the same guy.

Ian Anderson is still my favourite bass player for the fact that he drove Barriemore Barlow nuts Confused when he took over from John Glascock in the studio. Big smile


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:47
A Vote for Jeffrey

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 07:48
Glenn Cornick.

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 09:21
The one of Roots to Branches was/is really good, but Jeffrey has the edge Tull needed, the same for Glenn, just that Jeffrey delivered a bit better bass stuff IMO.


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 13:50
Let`s face it all the musicians that ever played with Tull were top flight. Except for Ian Anderson he was alright.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 11:22
Hi,
 
I don't think that Dave Pegg "replaced" anyone in Tull ... he was always a part of Fairport Convention and I think that he has more stuff with them than he does with Tull!
 
Dave's opus in my book, is on the Richard Thompson's album LIVE (More of Less)  ... and you have to hear what he does to "Night Comes In" and "Calvary Cross" ... to appreciate such unreal bass playing ... and why someone like Ian Anderson would jump at a chance to have someone like him on the stage!
 
While folks like Tull, and what really became Tull's 2nd period (the druges between the 1st and 2nd don't count -- that is Passion Play ...) was the advent of John Glascock ... who had done the most insane and out of this world playing as a part of Carmen ... and blew out David Bowie off the stage at least once, and then toured with Jethro Tull ... and whose 3rd album (The Gypsies) actually has a Jethro Tull feel to it ... a spanish Jethro Tull if you will. It would have been a no brainer if Tull was having changes and to pick up this guy ...
 
Which is best?
 
They are all good. The music was different each time ... I happen to like "Passion Play" and "Thick as a Brick" ... and with Minstrel in a Gallery ... still are the only Tull albums that get me going ... the rest ... sometimes I think they are "too nice" ... and that means ... "over-rated" too!
 
I had at one time, a bootleg, long gone, have no idea where ... that had a 17 minute of My God ... in that 17 minute was all the Tull one could ever want ... that version was never released, and had the most amazing and out of breath and insane flute solo ever ... sorry ... JPRampal is a jackass --- HFlowers you are super ... but this was over the top ... "more .. more" ... ahd he is gasping ... and does it again ... and to me, a song, even "Songs from the Wood" .,.. don't mean squat next to the strength, power, beauty and exultation of an opus performance and then some ... the rest is all "songs" ... and are less meaningfull after an experience as that one.
 
I wish he would release that instead of another attempt at a radio single ... bass player or not ... they are all good ... there is no such thing as a poor musician with Ian Anderson ... period!


Posted By: Callergrim
Date Posted: July 30 2009 at 17:10
I voted John Glascock, because it was really great to saw him live.
Dave Pegg is a good second.


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 30 2009 at 17:56
It's weird but as I run the music through my mental Cuisinart Jethro Tull really isn't a group that ever had prominent bassists.  I'm at a total loss and will have to pile on the double Hammond.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 30 2009 at 22:15
Hammond-Hammond.
 
If you have two last names that are the same its automatically assumed you'll get my vote.
 
I've also always liked Pegg for some reason. (I'm gather for more than he be good at the bass giatar).


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Posted By: claudio
Date Posted: August 03 2009 at 11:35
StarMISTER GLENN CORNICK
THANK YOU


Posted By: Tengent
Date Posted: August 04 2009 at 17:46
Glenn will always be my favorite. I actually never enjoyed JT after he left. :(


Posted By: Tull Freak
Date Posted: August 13 2009 at 14:09
John Glascock has to be my favourite, but maybe it's because the band were at their live best at the time he was with them. But of course it was partly due to him that they were so good at that time. It's just a shame he was only in the band for 3 years. RIP John.


Posted By: mark kraken
Date Posted: November 21 2009 at 14:51
jeffery jeffery hamond hamond.


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 23 2009 at 14:45
A close fight between Cornick and Hammond.
 
No vote


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Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: November 24 2009 at 14:13
Jeffrey HH


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: January 13 2010 at 20:48
Peggy; gotta love that heavy handed style!



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