How Does One Become A Collaborator?
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Topic: How Does One Become A Collaborator?
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Subject: How Does One Become A Collaborator?
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 15:28
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Hello,
I'm just wondering what the criteria is for becoming a PA Collaborator. I have upwards of 110 reviews, and should technically be in the 100 Top Collaborators list for amount of reviews. Can someone message me concerning what I would need to do to upgrade my account?
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 15:41
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I can mention something to the admins to take a look at your reviews for consideration for Prog Reviewer status. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 15:49
| From what I have seen, you would fully qualify for promotion as a PR. Your reviews are indeed good , not just plentiful. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 16:09
| That's an FAQ CF. See the FAQ's thread (in the rules section)! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 19:27
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Well, some of us actively seek it out, others start out as Prog Reviewers then get promoted at a later time, and then there are those like myself who are kind of just ''picked'' to be a Collaborator based on past activity in the community.
I would say based on what I've seen of your reviews, you would be qualified for a Prog Reviewer promotion. Good luck, man.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: April 04 2009 at 23:27
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110 reviews is easily PR status in my mind. I got picked for a Collab position based on my knowledge of Prog Metal obviously, heh. ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 15:57
No one speaks of it but you have to sleep with someone.  Not necessarily anyone on this site though. And by sleep I could literally be talking about sleep... I believe it also has to be dark on a Thursday. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 16:01
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I dunno. One night I was drunk, and the next day I woke up a collab. Still not sure how that happened. Still not as bad as waking up in a strange place next to a really strange person and not remembering. Or is it? ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 16:15
A guy I knew some years ago has one of the "best" such stories I've ever heard. He wakes up one morning, with a hangover of major proportions, besides a chick he doesn't know at all - and when he looks out the window there's nothing familiar to be seen at all - but he can see that he's in the second floor of a house. He gets dressed and starts looking for the kitchen, as he's pretty thirsty after last night's heavy partying. In the kitchen he gets some warm, friendly greetings from the parents and siblings of the girl; and tries his best at being friendly and answering for himself in that horrible hungover state - and manages to get along pretty well. Eventually he finds out that he's in a town close to 150 miles away from where he lives. To make matters even worse, he's broke as a pauper - not a penny in his pockets. Not a morning he remembers fondly - but one he'll remember until the day he dies I believe ;-) ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
The Doctor wrote:Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:48
Does sleeping with my wife count?? ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:51
You mean he (the thread starter) needs to sleep with your wife to get a promotion? ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 13:57
than we'd all be collaborators.
back in the good ol' days sleeping with the enemy would count as such ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:04
How can you be sure? Do you know his wife? ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:05
Shucks...miss out on two counts. She wouldn't fly that far anyway and she is a one man gal - sorry guys!! You'll have to go back to good old fashioned bribery  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:07
Bloody hell. Now I'm getting paranoid...time to put The Wall on, methinks  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:08
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I was asked by Max after only writing a few reviews and took a week to decide but that was when the site was in it`s infancy. I also write bios. Maybe check up on missing bios and impress the hell out of the admins by writing a killer missing bio.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:08
In the good ol' days collaborators were hanged or shot, sometimes both. 'Special' collaborators got special treatment Hey Tuz  |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 14:12
Hey. Wassup?------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 15:36
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Has anyone bothered to read this guy`s profile or any of his reviews? I took some time to go over his profile ( he`s 16 years old ) and some of his reviews ( including a good one on Signals by Rush ) even though I`m not a prog metal freak but I think the kid has the right motivation. He`s got my vote for all it`s worth.
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 21:07
HAHAHA Wow. What have I started here...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 08 2009 at 21:13
^ by the way, have you been reviewing your albums lately? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 11:59
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I've read a number of his reviews as he was putting them out a massive pace, and they're all quality. If he maintains his interest in the site, I think it's a no-brainer that he should be a reviewer. I've certainly bounced in and out of other sites enough times that at least some sustain should be part of the selection process, though.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:20
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I don't think he should be a prog reviewer. If he is, he'll supersede me on the one hundred most prolific reviews list. And I can't have that. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:25
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Maybe you need to get out some new albums to review, man!!!
Or I might even catch up. I do 1 or 2 a day. Which one should I do this afternoon? Russian Circles or Ocean Machine? ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:28
I write 1-3 reviews a day. I don't necessarily post them that day, but I write them. If I dumped all the reviews I have stored up, I'd make Sean Trane look like a newbie. Okay, maybe not quite that... ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:33
Publish them. Best-seller style. ------------- 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:35
What's the point? I already won a prize!  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:35
How do you have time for that? Between work and studies, personal affairs to take care of and a very limited time for myself, I don't have time for reviewing much and I have a small stock of promo's to review. I personally need time to review as I don't like to just write a short thing but rather put time and effort into it like many others do here (including you) and so it takes me time to write them. I really envy all those who seem to have time for this. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:39
I'm unemployed and I neglect my family. Well, I'm unemployed, anyway. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:41
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I used to have the time for two reviews on a daily basis, without neglecting school (well, the important classes, at least ), study, reading, etc. But now I'm utterly blank. -------------
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:44
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I sit at my desk and work on it in between appointments. It takes me half a day to do a 400-1000 word review but the time allows me to at least scan through the album twice while writing. Average day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:48
Haven't thought of this... I'll ask my wife's permission to neglect her... On a serious note, that is also why I have little time to work as hard as I did in the ZART in the previous years (and also assisting other teams) when I used to add bands on a regular basis and do more team work. Now I can't commit to it due to lack of time and I'm very jealous of all the other team members which seem to be here day and night. I come in here several times a day but it's for short periods each time and only for things that take short time, like post news, recommendations, add an album, give my opinion of a band in the ZART, but that's it and I wish I could go back to the acitivity level I had before. Now I feel bad for not posting the reviews for the promos as quickly as I did . On topic - the opening poster should definitely be a Prog Reviewer. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:58
I pretty much stay logged on, and I write reviews once I feel I've heard an album enough to do so. I've got a respectable library, and I pick things up on the cheap (I just got a Muse album and the new Mastodon album for less than a case of beer). Anyway, our Mr. Conor should be among the prog reviewers. I delight in reading what he posts, even if I don't know the album in question. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 13:08
I only write reviews by accident these days. If I`m in one of the offices I use and get sidetracked I`ll write one. Right now, there are a few that need fixing up so I kind of feel guilty writing fresh ones. Plus I`m working on a top secret project for the site right now which is consuming a considerable amount of my time  .As I said before think this guy should be a prog reviewer. He even lists his occupation as composer/songwriter so his interest in music has some depth. The enthusiasm is definitely there. I`ve seen other people on the site with fancy titles with only a handful of reviews. ------------- |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 14:03
I here ya, brotha!
 May the jobless proggers unite! Together, we will EBay our way into history!!!!!! |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 14:10
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I don't know if this is of any interest to anyone, but I am unemployed too... courtesy of Uncle Sam's immigration laws!
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 01:09
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Me too. It's not a good time to be a jourmalist in Gordon Brown's glorious kingdom of the greater UK.
All I can get is part time work as a chef. I won't say where I work but if any members come to Norwich to eat avoid the lasagne or anything containing pasta, just in case I made it (I can't do Italian - just can't get it right). ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 02:01
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I am off to Hawaii tomorrow and will be doing some cursory work enquiries. You never know but I probably have more chance of getting served a soup sandwich than being given a job offer
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CF for Prog Reviewer?......YES! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 15:39
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I work for myself.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 16:18
crap I didn't see this earlier... hopefully you caught something  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 20:38
| Answer: do my laundry for a month. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 14 2009 at 21:09
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Better question: what's the most fun way to be forced back into being a senior member? This could get interesting. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 15 2009 at 13:34
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You mean PA is military? You can get busted down in rank? Sounds like fun. I got forced into a desk job in the air force for too many fast low passes including the one on my avatar.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:19
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I wonder why some of veteran proggers worthy for being collaborators can't (or don't) be collaborators. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:48
Can't speak for the rest of the vets Damo but as an (ex at the moment) professional writer I'd prefer to selfishly enjoy the site than write reviews or whatever.
You know the saying a builder doesn't finish work, go home and build a brick wall in his garden... it's that sort of thing for me.
Anyway, just about everything I've got (and I've got a heck of a lot) has been reviewed by someone else on PA - my two cents wouldn't add much, I feel.
And as for attempting to be a collaborator, I am to the Internet what the Venus de Milo is to sleeves.
Mind you, If the title of psychedelic/hard rock/Ladbroke Grove scene specialist was up for grabs, I'd kill for it.
 Be interesting to hear what any of my fellow oldies think about this. ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 05:48
If you ever wanted to join the Heavy Prog team, you'd be most welcome !
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 10:50
many have been offered and refused.. knowing it isn't just a cute tag... it means work.. and getting involved in putting your ass on the line. Everyone has an opinion when it doesn't matter hahah.. when it does ..some don't want the headache. Make no mistake... it is a headache. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 12:05
I know! Rico won't stop harassing me! He calls me at 3 AM to ask if I evaluated a certain band! He threatens to send people to "meet and greet" me if I don't write bios on time! And worst of all, he says Kansas isn't even prog!  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 13:09
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 13:21
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I review for the sake of turning folks on, I read for the sake of being turned on....
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Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 13:37
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Yeah, but what's on your monitor on your sig pic? ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 16:29
Me too Avestin, Me too.... -------------  |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 16:35
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Being Senior Member have his advantages:
1.- You still can write reviews and if you don't like it you can PM an Admin to do the ugly job to erase, not you.
2.- You can be absence from the forum and from write reviews a long period of time and you can return and nothing came wrong with that.
3.- You can propose bands to be added and you do not have to evaluate, you simply put the enough info and samples and someone else do the job.
So, have the membership of Senior Member really have his advantages
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 16:51
Aka - you have no responsabilities and can say whatever you want about the collaborators |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 16:53
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 16:56
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most of us 5-stars aren't required to check in every day, we just have unhealthy addictions  |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 17:22
Just for clarification . . . as far as I know, any Collaborator that has been 'demoted' has either asked to be removed as one, or violated a conditional rule. The Admins here don't go around the site stripping folks of their ranks for kicks.
I'm not saying this was how you meant the comment, but I just wanted to make that aspect of it clear for those who may read this and get confused.
As for the job 'requirements' . . . I do what I can, but myself, like everyone else here, is doing this because I enjoy the music, and this site is important to me. It's a volunteer job; a choice. We all have lives away from this site, so at times, we can't dedicate ourselves to it as often as we would like, but from what I understand, the only way someone is taken off of the Collaborator train is if they simply violate what is expected of them, which doesn't happen very often.
As long as you are positively contributing to the site, you should be fine.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 18:15
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Thanks folks for your honest opinions. I suggest that everyone here (either collaborators or not) wants to contribute toward PA if he can...  But sadly sometimes he's too busy to do so... Every collaborator has a responsibility to make PA better as soon as possible, as Martin, Micky, Robert, and Ian said. To be a helper is my pleasure. Writing reviews and biographies I've enjoyed...but I'm afraid I can always do so sooner...  If I can get an offer, I'm very glad. That is, some of members here can give their confidence to me. Hehe...senior member may be my best place...? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 18:41
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Let me know when you've finished adding the Mako discography mate - I have another assignment with your name on it, if you're interested :-)
------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 19:00
you nail that my friend.
Welcome to not responsible area ehem "senior member area."
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 19:03
Dean does.     ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 21:31
Wait . . . seriousely?
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 21:33
No, of course not. It's inconceivable. Or is it?  Watch your back! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 21:45
Oh, dear. 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 16 2009 at 21:53
| they don't call him 'Mean Dean' for nothing |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 04:25
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I have discovered (in the pursuit of knowledge and out of idle curiosity) that I can knock people down to Newbie status without affecting their post-count. What I have yet to determine is whether they bounce up the ladder to Groupie or jump straight Senior on their very next post or remain as Newtbies in perpetuity (sadly all the previous volunteers for this experiment were unable to post again on the forum for unrelated reasons... newts have moderately dexterity and with time could master the QWERTY keyboard, the problem for them is they can never remember their password, this is more noticable in the cases where I've changed their passwords then PMd them the new one). Volunteers willing to act as Guinea pigs in the next level of experiments are more than welcome and I see from the giant step back-wards by 22896 other members that we have a few people interested in furthering the course of scientific endeavour. With so many prospective ------------- What? |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 09:50
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 10:07
I think that's a yes... ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 15:38
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so are you guys going to make the guy a "prog reviewer". I didn`t see any responses that were opposed to it.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 15:45
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just PM an admin if you want someone promoted.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 17:32
That doesn't always work... or maybe it didn't work for me because I left for a year and a half afterward and haven't reviewed anything since |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 17:40
that might have had something to do with it... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: April 18 2009 at 02:48
I've PMd to you 'bout it. Always thanks...of course, I'm glad for opportunities of contributing toward PA. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: June 05 2009 at 01:15
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Hell, forget about collaborator or reviewer, ow do I become a groupie or senior member
I haven't really done anything to warrant a promotion, but I'd like to know what it takes since these website rankings awarded by people I don't know from a computer far away actually means a lot to me
more quality posts? reviews? more rankings?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 05 2009 at 01:52
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you get Senior after something like 100 posts, past that it's mostly good work |