job discrimination
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Topic: job discrimination
Posted By: Guests
Subject: job discrimination
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 10:12
| this is an interesting issue although im sure ill be called a racist and bigot(big surprise, i am just a downright rotten person after all!)....i feel to give a job to a minority over a white male if they are equally qualified is reverse discrimination....i also feel that if a minority and white male are up for the same job and the white male is more qualified he should get the job based on that, and that it is reverse discrimination to give it to the minority in this instance just to fill a quota...i feel these laws are a part of what serves to make america's industries less of a force than they used to be...two wrongs dont make a right(well to a lot of you it seems they do ,but)...not because more minorities are present in the workforce(which im sure is what some will make me out to have said), but because many got their positions not for their abilities/qualifications but for their status as a minority |
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 13:23
| If I were in the situation of choosing people to work and couldn't decide between two people, then I would make a choice based on the workforce I already had - if it was predominantly white I'd choose someone from another racial background; if it was predominantly male I'd choose a woman etc. Not in the name of equality, but simply because it'd be more valuable to have a different outlook from within the company - someone to bring his different culture and ideas in and perhaps find ways to solve problems that just wouldn't have occured to others. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 13:31
| that is a very good outlook on it goose, unfortunately, the current system doesnt allow for such choices to be made |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 14:39
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I think the current system is the fairest for all!. If you
want to have freedom for all then if one race is coming from a lesser opportunity you should balance the scales. Bringing opportunity to those who have less of a chance. Why should a certain race or class represent the outcast. Easy to point your finger at races or groups when you put them all in the same box, a better test is to see how you wear his shoes. The major problem that I see is that corporate America fills all the minority jobs(90%) at the workforce level, leaving the trouble of working together through differences at the worker level. The old we'll hire em but they arent working with me attitude. If you are going to proclaim equal rights it should be at all levels. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 14:42
| agreed , but i do not believe that the current system does anything near to that, and i believe it does serve in fact to create reverse discrimination...i think the effort should go toward the communities and schools these groups come from in order to get them to a place where they can be more qualified than the white guy is, or consistently as qualified rather |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 14:52
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many other reasons can be sited for the problems
with American productivity than under qualified minorities. this seems to be a narrow viewpoint you are representing. reverse discrimination doesnt have much of a leg to stand on yet! maybe you are young and facing adversity and blaming it on lack of opportunity? ADVERSITY BREEDS CHARACTER |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 14:54
| why is it always about me? you dotn think its a problem that our minorities are underreducated and underqualified? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:03
it is you who offers the debate. im assuming your fielding the question in the manner you did that this was a feeling that you had. did I say its not a problem, by offering jobs to minority parents they are able to help with their childrens, childrens, children to get a better education and be better qualified. you offered a different viewpoint, I offered mine. |
hopelevre wrote:Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:07
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Theres none so blind .............. You said: this is like Gumby fighting with Mr. Potatohead, its a See how you like it Bryan. It is because of people like you that this idiot carries on-but you just keep sitting blindly on your fence... ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:27
| reed why am i not allowed to discuss with someone without you interrupting? i didnt mean any disrespect in your viewpoint, infact when expounded upon the way you just did it makes alot more sense to me...thank you for sharing that, that is the point of a conversation i thought....we talk these things out to come to a sound understanding of the issue, and by questioning we are sometimes led into a deeper explanation ,hence understanding....you are right about the post as i obviously had that preconception, but your response(after my questioning of your initial response) is waht allowed me the greater understanding to walk away from the conversation with some of the previous MISconceptions exposed and a more elevated viewpoint....thank you....this doesnt mean that i agree with the laws 100% but i can attempt to justify them with much more facility |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:31
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I was having a go at DB.....................and this is a public forum,and private conversation should be done by PM. -------------
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:32
| here you are reed attacking me again and complaining about how i am abusing everyone....why dotn you go respond to my post on "key transpositions" if you are "fed up with the crap" and quit perpetuating "the crap"?your such a hypocrite ....you tell everyone to ignore my posts, yet you only ignore the ones that have soemthing to do with music, and are fain to scribble your self-indulgent chimeras all across anything on the non music page |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:42
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So basically,leave you alone and let you do whatever you want? Fine,I bet you dont last 1 more week on this forum. -------------
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:45
What kind of odds will you give me? ------------- 
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Posted By: Pale Fire
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:47
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For a black hole, you do a lot of emoting.... ...and yet you don't even let light escape... for shame  ------------- [IMG]http://eonbluepatient.com/images/fire.png"> |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:49
Well,if he posts regularly for 7 days without upsetting anyone,Reed Lover will go forever!! I always keep my word.... But what is the forfeit if he does continue? -------------
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:52
That's a ballsy bet. I'm sure you're an honest man in these situations. How about the forfeit is... hmmm.... uhhhhhh... I'll give up and go on to bigger and better things? Maybe? -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:54
Nah. The forfeit is that you wont allow yourself to be coerced by bullies on either side in future....
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 15:56
I accept your offer, Mr. Lover. -------------
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 16:12
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I didnt seem to have much of a problem with
hopelevre. think we may have got off on the wrong foot initially, would assume that was due to the beatings. 
think I remember those days! 
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 16:13
Oo-err |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: April 30 2005 at 16:24
Heheheheeheeeeee... I just got it. -------------
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