Tool Vs. Porcupine Tree
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Topic: Tool Vs. Porcupine Tree
Posted By: Arachnid1111
Subject: Tool Vs. Porcupine Tree
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 19:01
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Tool and Porcupine Tree are both GREAT bands! (In my opinion of corse)
But i wanted to see which one people would pick =]
Vote! ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 19:03
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Tool easily, one of my top 5 bands, whereas Porcupine tree is more like in my top 20.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 19:04
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I'm pretty sure this was already a topic not too long ago.
But anyway . . . Tool wins easily. PT is great, but repetetive.
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Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 19:46
| TOOL |
Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 21:14
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I think although TOOL has produced fewer albums, they are more consistent. As much as I love PT, their last 2 have lacked something special (maybe the cheesy lyrics?). The Sky Moves Sideways, Signify, and In Absentia are all amazing albums though.
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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 21:33
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PT
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 21:36
| i like both bands a lot so i won't vote here |
Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 22:19
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TOOL by a miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile!
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 27 2009 at 23:28
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I like both, but I don't love PT anymore for some reason, but still love Tool. Tool it is. ------------- 
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 01:20
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It always amazes me in these polls how PT always beats Tool, but there are always tons of comments saying how most people prefer Tool far, far more than the other. PT usually wins because they are more proggy, but I think fans of Tool are way more passionate, because they get the awesomeness of them that isn't immediately noticeable to prog fans.
Anyway, Tool by about 10,000 miles. It's like comparing a five course dinner with dessert to a hot dog cookout. The cookout isn't bad by any means, it's just that the other is way better. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 01:45
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Tool for me too. PT is very good too, especially the last two albums (I haven't heard all of theirs, though, only five or six or something) but Tool is one of my biggest favourites. edit: I thought I voted already, but it seemed that I hadn't, so I did it again. The vote was counted but it still doesn't say I've voted in this poll  So there's now two Tool votes from me I guess. Maybe some PT fan has the same error happening and he's been giving all those PT votes, since nobody's been commenting about voting for them.  ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 07:08
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^since this moment! Tool does simply nothing for me, while PT means a lot for me emotionally. ------------- yeah |
Posted By: bananorange
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 10:06
| PT for me...love tool aswell but just not enough material to listen to. Frankly I only listen to Aenima and Lateralus nowadays and a few songs from the others albums....10,000 days is alright like undertow and opiate....now PT on the other hand although their albums may not be as good the shear number of albums with quality material puts them over the top. When Tool is all said and done people will always say.....yeh they were great but they could manage a record only every 4 years or so, and only 2 out of the 5 so far are really worth all the hype. Just my opinion, but my friend likes to argue they put out full albums i.e. close to 80 minutes. Well not at of them are and some are just filled to the rim with filler. no matter how you slice it Aenima even though my favourtie collection of songs by them, is filled to the brim with filler. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 10:25
 Don't take offense, but that's horrifically silly. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
topofsm wrote:Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 10:28
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The Porky Concubines in a Tree for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 11:19
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Porcupine Tree ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Telinstryata
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 13:07
| Porcupine Tree, although the choice was really tough. |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 14:04
Multiple Voting is allowed in this poll, I did the same thing. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:05
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Tool because Maynard is incredibly obnoxious and sexually attractive.
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:06
| Porcupine Tree |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:11
I completely agree.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:14
Why? isn't it obvious to everyone here that Tool is unerraprecciated? Seems to me the only place Tool is actually given the credit they deserve is OUTSIDE of the Prog circles, while Prog Heads dismiss them because they don't sound like yet another Yes clone.
Tool is the defenition of what 'progressive' music truly is. They are so ahead of their time, in fact, that they are often missunderstood by most listeners. The same thing has happened with bands like Meshuggah, Isis, etc.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:17
I don't take an opinion seriously if the theme of it is "It's too deep for you." Plus, the fanboyosity of your post doesn't help your credibility in my eyes. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:26
lol, that's funny . . . seeing as how I have crucified Tool's work before. Don't believe me? Go to my reviews section.
The only thing worth listening to Tool has done is post-Undertow, and even then, the only album of the three newer records I would consider to be a 5 out of 5 is "La te ra lus". The other two albums (Aenima and 10,000 Days) are full of filler.
Just because I have a Tool-themed avatar doesn't mean I'm a fanboy. I truly do believe that those who don't appreciate Tool's music are people who don't understand them. Why should that bother you? I'm not saying 'I'm above you because I like Tool and you don't', I'm just giving my opinion. I didn't like Tool at first, either.
I just happen to believe that alot of progheads dislike Tool because on its face, the band appears to be an overrated alternative metal band to alot of people. It's only when you dig deeper and listen to their music multiple times that you begin to hear the intricacies that make the music worthwhile.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:28
Does PT sound like yet another Yes clone? Now that I think of it, I've never heard a Yes clone, they've been very unique to this day. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:29
That's funny since Undertow is the only Tool album that I actually like.  I'm not really sure why, but they just haven't grabbed hold of me yet. -------------
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:32
I guess I meant that alot of prog bands take cues from Yes and bands like them because they were among the first bands to embrace the Prog label. Tool is a different breed; they take influences from everywhere but Prog (Except King Crimson, which is a huge influence on Adam Jones), yet they are still very fresh and progressive despite their distance from the familiar Prog formula. I think alot of old school prog fans misjudge them for this.
And by the way, PT aren't embraced by alot of people here, either.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:35
Meh . . . it takes awhile for some people to get into them. I thought I would never get into them a one point. Heh . . that's pretty funny to me now.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:38
Try Starcastle .... |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:43
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PT - Wilson is a genius and one of the best things to happen to modern progressive music.
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Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:45
I agree as well. Tool is personally my favorite over Porcupine Tree, but i do however still respect porcupine tree for their musical integrity and progressiveness as well. ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:48
Have you seen the ''Arriving Somewhere . . . " concert? It's amazing!
I may have voted Tool in this poll in terms of overall music, but I must say, from what I have seen, PT is a better live band than Maynard's crew..
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Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 15:54
Definitely! Porcupine Tree seem to have a lot more stage presence and great malleability to themselves!
I do have to give that to them too, you hit the nail right on the head ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 16:41
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Tool is a joke compared to PT. PT by 10,000 miles
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Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 16:45
And what may be your reasoning of that overall? ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 16:45
^ You sure about that? According to my ears, SW plays the same riff over and over again multiple times per album. Tool rarely becomes redundant, even with the limited amount of instruments used. And I love PT. I'm just saying . . . that's what I hear.
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Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 16:49
I agree. Sw does seem to do that. And Tool obviously does have a lot more spontaniety and differentials in their music ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 17:14
| ^ I mean, I love both bands, but the more modern PT stuff sounds very related to one another, where as no two Tool records sound exactly alike, at least in my opinion. |
Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 17:22
I have noticed that too! In the modern Porcupine Tree material, most of the tones, riffs, and patters aeem the same to one another.
And then when you take a look at Aenima and then a look at Lateralus, they are not alike in patterns, riffs, or tones!
It makes them a lot more diverse and keeps the listeners mind stretching (Which is probably what they want the listeners to do. Or at least one of the things.)
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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 20:13
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Tool just blends together after awhile and gets boring. I was heavily into them after Aenima but when Lateralus came out, it just became apparent that they were making the same album over and over. Didn't even bother with 10,000. A lot of people slamming PT on here when most of you would give an arm to have half the talent of SW. Maybe I overstated and honestly no opinions are going to be changed here. If you like Tool, more power to ya. I don't listen to them anymore where as PT I find to be one of my favorites. ------------- Biggles was in rehab last Saturday |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 20:15
| I need to hear more PT. |
Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 20:34
Understandable. Iguess different things for different people, so its all good
 I just see it as the opposite, but hey, thats my frame of reference ------------- "Your`e such an inspiration of all the ways i will never choose to be" -APC |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 23:30
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^Yeah I know. To me, almost all their songs have a unique identity. Each song has different dynamic usages, different time signatures, different vocal usages, and the members of Tool seem to give each song an identity. When I look at Lateralus, first there's the hard hitting yet intricate "The Grudge", followed by the short ambient drone of "Eon Blue Apocalypse", followed by "The Patient", which is soft and solemn, and after that you get "Mantra", a haunting soundscape, and after that the rhythmically complex yet mesmerizing and beautiful "Schism", followed by "Parabol/Parabola" which is a calming and quiet track which suddenly explodes into an energetic rocker. That's just a few songs that each give me a different connotation. When I listen to FoaBP, the songs retain mostly the same mood and atmosphere the whole time, and with the exception of "Anesthetize", there's not not much change, even from song to song. -------------
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Posted By: TalmLikeABalm
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 02:17
| Both in my top 5, but I'm gonna have to go with porcupine tree. Tool's had 3 amazing albums vs porcupine tree's 5 + some awesome EPs. |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 04:01
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i think that the fact PT were influenced by Tool in their last 3 LPs says a lot... TOOL RULE!!! ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 06:48
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Tool are dull as ditchwater; nothing offends me, but nothing really does anything for me either. I've heard it all before, sometimes by themselves as they are rather repetitive, but often done rather better by others. PT are pretty good - not in the top class but a perfectly decent listen. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 07:22
O my god none of them I can't stand this two bands
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Posted By: bananorange
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 10:26
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Look they're both great bands. even though I'm new here I'm pretty damn sure Tool is not "too deep" for anyone here. That is in my opinion a terrible argument...Go listen to 10,000 days and tell me it's not trying to be Lateralus. It's true Steven Wilson does use the same riff alot, but tell me what is wrong with that? It's not "progressive" enough for you? The respect Toolget's is for the 2 GREAT albums they have put out. The difference between the 2 is that if you ask people to rank PT from best to worst you will have answers ranging from 1 end of the spectrum to the other, whereas Tool barring a few exception will have Lateralus and Aenima stapled to the top. Also I'm pretty sure Tool's time on MTV really helped them get appreciated outside of "prog circles".
All this being said Tool may be my 2nd favourite band of all time but when I want to listen to an album I only choose between 2. Whereas PT I'll choose between 5 or 6 discouting one's which are not considered albums i.e. Staircase Infinities.
I cannot deny Tool's musicianship, creativity or popularity but to me this music is not the equivalent of splitting the Atom as some may have you believe.
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 18:54
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I own every album by both bands and probably will continue to purchase any new material. This is a hard choice. The 2 bands have arguably the 2 best current drummers in the world. I love Colin Edwins jazzy fingerstyle bass licks as much as Justins complex pick use.I love both Maynard and Stevens vocals as well as there respective side projects. Imo the thing that will sway me to vote PT is I prefer Steven Wilsons guitar playing over Adam Jones. His more melodic and acoustic use is superior to Adams more distorted grunge licks. Add in Barbieri's keys and there is the icing. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 19:22
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Tool because Porcupine tree hasnt quite made anything up to par with Lateralus. I really like both bands though, but Tool is just something else! ------------- 
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Posted By: pskunk119
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 21:04
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I like Tool. I love Porcupine Tree.
Danny Carey is great. Gavin Harrison is unparalled.
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Posted By: barney63
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 02:44
| Tool v good but I can't distinguish one album from the next. PT for me - much more variety. |
Posted By: mono
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:35
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I voted for the most varied, the most original (IMO), Porcupine Tree
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:50
I guess I can see your point. The reason for my choice is also for the Guitar playing, I believe. I prefer Adam Jones' guitar playing over Steve Wilson's because while great Acoustic and Gilmour-esque Electric Guitar is great, it's been done before. Jones does things with his instrument that I haven't heard anywhere else before.
But I agree about the drummers. I would be blessed if either one of those guys played even one note for me.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 11:52
| lol, I just noticed your Sn. How can you not choose Tool in this poll when you have a screenname taken straight out of a Maynrd skit? lmao. |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 18:51
Yeh but see which album it comes from.The hugely underated Undertow! I think of all Tools albums that one has the most melodic playing of all by Adam. SW does the grunge stuff equally as good as his Gilmore style riffing. IMO
I love both bands just that when I first joined here, Tool were it for me.
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Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 19:48
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TOOL by lightyears ahead of PT. C'maaan now!!!
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 19:51
Righto Doomy just how many times have you voted for Tool now?  ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 20:03
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So Tool fans are voting because Tool is more original and Porcupine Tree tends to sound the same after a while...
And Porcupine Tree fans are voting because Porcupine Tree is more original and Tool tends to sound the same after a while... -------------
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Posted By: Pezmerga
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 03:24
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PT for me! I broke the tie...for now. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Pezmerga/?chartstyle=iTunesFIXED"> 
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 09:22
Ditto! ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: YES2112
Date Posted: April 10 2009 at 02:17
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Tool! It's a close one though, but I have to go with Tool. ------------- And the Meek Shall Inherit the Earth.... [IMG]http://www.musicstreetjournal.com/GRAPHICS/2112.jpg "> |
Posted By: hagguhsem
Date Posted: April 19 2009 at 05:51
| I'll have to say the same as I did in Opet vs PT, PTs 3 last albums are masterpieces, but I like everything Tool has done. Still both bands are easily in my top 10 |
Posted By: michaelangelo
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 19:49
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Porcupine Tree for me.
Never been a Tool fan.
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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 19:55
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I am in love with Porcupine Tree I can't stand Tool Hmmm.... -------------  |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 04:43
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:21
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This poll is stupid, and is not credible on account of the option to vote multiple times. -------------
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Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:25
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Porcupine Tree easily, Tool is great though
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 23 2009 at 11:48
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tO.oL ------------- 
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Posted By: poco
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 15:21
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PT struck me as amazing the first time I heard them. Tool took me a while to get into. But years later, I still listen to Tool whereas PT have become boring. In conclusion, Oceansize is better than both. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 16:53
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 21:08
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I really Like Tool but I have a very soft spot for Porcupine Tree. and Porcupine Tree is a more progressive band than Tool. love both bands anyway,! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: brainerd
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 17:54
As much as I love Tool, this is the correct answer.
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Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:22
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Maynard has Wilson beat in the vocals department (and that is saying ALOT). Porcupine Tree sound more prog, but I belive Tool is far more progressive than them because of the things that they do. Progressive for me is going outside of the box, even if it is the prog box! Porcupine Tree sound like they are trying to be prog whereas Tool is just doing what they want. Tool wins hands down. However just like everyone else I LOVE THEM BOTH. Being a prog fan isnt about fighting about which band is better it is about listening to the best and most varied musical genre in the world. I embrace just about all prog bands because they are different that everything else. It kindof annoys me how some prog fans attack other prog bands because they are so firmly rooted in their favorite, we should be better than that. sorry about the rant but whatever lol
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Posted By: Fieldofsorrow
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 02:18
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I'm just getting into Tool, but for now my decision leans towards Porcupine Tree, as I greatly revere Steven Wilson.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:37
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Tool, but i would listen to Porcupine as often, so its close to a split. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:40
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:45
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I went with PT but I love both bands' music. ------------- 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 07:54
| Porcupine Tree for me. Tool were never my favorite band even though I do enjoy some of their output. |
Posted By: camilleanne
Date Posted: July 16 2009 at 08:44
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Porcupine Tree.
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Posted By: Cloud
Date Posted: July 17 2009 at 07:46
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"Porcupine Tree sound like they are trying to be prog" Porcupine Tree are not trying, they do sound very naturally.
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Posted By: BLITZKRIEG
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 15:46
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PT easily. Cause Steve Wilson is the greatest music composer for the last 20 years. He does use the similar riffs but he varies the timing. His vocal melodies are brilliant. Chords structures used are different and quite stunning. |
Posted By: natewait
Date Posted: July 20 2009 at 16:02
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Porcupine Tree by a mile. I'm surprised its so close. ------------- Please check out my Progressive Music Blog: http://leviathanprog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Leviathan . |
Posted By: enemyofthesundevils
Date Posted: July 21 2009 at 10:39
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P.T. by a lanslide. I feel Tool is a bit overrated but i'd be lying if I said that their commercial appeal and mainstream loving fans didn't sway my opinion. Tool is really good but P.T. is my favorite band and the band that made me love progressive rock. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 21 2009 at 10:46
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PT is so overrated I actually lose interest in listening to them, despite enjoying them a lot, just due to how annoying their fans are. Aside from that fact though, still Tool by a landslide. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 16:52
| PT Fans are annoying? In a contest with Tool. Lol... |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 21:57
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At first I thought I'd already posted here....damn similar avatars.....
Anyway, I totally love Porcupine Tree, and I am frankly shocked that they trail in this poll. Shocked. ------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 22:06
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A year a go I would have said Tool, but now I prefer PT by a land slide. It's odd how things change, as Tool used be my absolute favorite band. I honestly haven't listened to them in a while and the last time I did I was a bit disappointed... they just don't have the same impact. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 22:13
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PT are very good definitely, but Tool it is for me. One of the most unique bands today. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 22 2009 at 22:26
Although, on the flip side, I can understand some of the fanboyism of PT, Tool has no redeeming features whatsoever, but perhaps that is getting too deep into things. So while Tool fans are probably worse outside of this website, here PT is worse here since nobody will ever stop talking about them. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 04:06
This is true. Fanboys have pretty much ruined PT for me.
Umm, because other artists don't "vary the timing"? His vocal melodies suit the music, but they aren't "Brilliant" by any stretch of the imagination. It's nothing that hasn't been done before and probably even better by probably a whole bunch of pop artists. I'd say Prince had cooler vocal melodies. There is nothing different about his chord structures, that's just ridiculous. Fair enough you think it's stunning that's quite subjective and I had no qualms with that, but he hasn't reinvented the wheel with chord voicings. A lot of the stuff he is using chord use was used in the classical lexicon hundreds of years ago and even then he doesn't use as many chord voicings and doesn't vary it up as much as they did. There really is just a lot of root 5 and 1 3 5 chord voicings in his music, nothing extraordinary. Jeff Buckley, Joe Satriani and practically every jazz fusion guitarist that's worth his salt are a few examples that have regularly used much more complex chord voicings
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 04:11
Wow - Thats pretty goddamn unimpressive. You care so much about other people liking an artist, you claim it makes you dislike the artist.... EDIT: I'm quite aware of the difference between fanboyism and simply liking something, but honestly, you let it stop you from enjoying something brilliant? |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 04:20
Yeah it would be "goddamn unimpressive" if it were purely stemming from the internet, but unfortunately I get PT shoved in my face in real life. Seriously, every party I went to in recent times, there was always this one PT fanboy kid that had to put PT on " GUIZE PUT PUT ON PT" even when no one else is in the mood for it and I'm never in the mood for them at a party. Eventually you'll just end up associating a band with negative things like (having it shoved in your face at a party), so it really does ruin bands for me. -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 04:28
Okay, that sounds alot worse than what I was expecting 
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 05:03
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Tool cause they make my "Y" chromosome more happy than PT. -------------
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 12:25
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I couldn't even bring myself to vote. Both bands were my favorites earlier in life, and both have worn off a little bit as time goes by, but I still love both of them, so I can't choose.
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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: September 23 2009 at 12:27
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Porcupine Tree by a country mile.
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Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 12:19
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I'm just getting into Tool actually. I ordered Lateralus a few days ago. :p PT though. :)) ------------- And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good 
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 15:18
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Not a very hard choice... Tool wins. Both bands are some of my favorite modern bands, but about both I can say some negative things. About PT, I think, I can say more negative things than Tool... I don't really like SW's vocals, PT hasn't made anything "outstanding" except for FOABP, and most albums fail to really reach me. Tool is a bit repetative sometimes I think, but apart from that they are fantastic, and not only musically, as their album artwork and video's are brilliant too! Both are very talented and innovative bands, but Tool easily wins. ------------- 
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Posted By: geddyx12112
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 15:40
| Porcupine Tree for sure, tool has more of a metal sound which I don't really like that musch. I'd rather have the spacier Porcupine TRee anyday. |