Original Asia or Payne Asia?
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Topic: Original Asia or Payne Asia?
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Subject: Original Asia or Payne Asia?
Date Posted: March 04 2009 at 21:22
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Original Asia Asia (1982) to Astra (1985) and so forth, including Phoenix (2008) bandmembers: Steve Howe (+ Mandy Meyers) Carl Palmer John Wetton (+Greg Lake) Geoff Downes Aqua (1992) to Silent Nation (2004) (and possibly Window to the Soul by GPS [2006]) bandmembers: various, but always, excepting Window to the Soul John Payne Geoff Downes |
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 02:45
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tell you what – just to be different: i'll go for the payne-fronted ASiA. nice play of word's actually. of course the original four are the original four and by now one can probably say that their reunion was successful and done for the right reasons. but i enjoyed ASiAmk2 and i thought that their “melodic rock steely dan“ approach (two key players and lots of guests where and when required) was quite special and certainly brought a lot of new influences to the table. i enjoyed their jazzier and latin influences on “arena“ and “aura“. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 04:28
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Original Asia. Probably one of my preferred all time bands!!!
But also Payne Asia is a good band. ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:33
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The original Asia all the way. BTW, I had the pleasure to see them live last year. Great band. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:36
I'm going to see them in Cardiff next month, and am really looking forward to it. Original by a mile - I loathed Payne's vocals.  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Moogtron III wrote:Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 14:26
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 14:34
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It is funny that you ask this question as I am in the process of burning my CDs to my computer so that I can play them on my iPod, and I started listening to all of the Asia CDs starting on Tuesday. A couple here and a couple there. I am currently listening to Aura and I absolutely love it. I think that it is probably my favorite Asia album; but I also like the debut, Silent Nation, and Phoenix quite a lot too, so my vote was for Equally Like Them. ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 14:53
They still put on a good show. Enjoy! |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 15:28
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Payne Asia was probably partly an attempt to create a 90s-oriented hit project in the spirit of Original Asia, especially with grungy sounding John Payne. However, the music they made "fell back" into prog often enough, or simply into hard rock with good lyrics. They never had the pop-an'-roll chops of original Asia. Then again... Don't Cut the Wire (Brother) could have been a rock smash in a kinder world... Payne era stuff is good, and proggy enough- but the big sound and ambition of the Original Asia wins out |
Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 15:51
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I prefer the Payne-era and his voice over Wetton's (although in KC Wetton would win). Aura and Silent Nation are really good albums, Aqua and Aria just good and Arena a bit under-average. GPS is also a cool band, I own their debut and still waiting for their next release. ------------- yeah |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 20:12
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As a vocalist, Payne is just so over the top. To me, I think HE THINKS he's a much better vocalist than he really is. I bought GPS and this is evident in the first song when the song starts off with just his voice and it's just so overblown. Anything associated with Payne will be passed on by me. E ------------- 
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 05:12
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My vote goes to original Asia. Payne Asia is not bad, but it strays too far from my musical interests to get me to listen to it. ------------- 
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:50
| I voted for original recipe Asia. I do wish that they would have taken a Yes/ELP/KC approach rather that the radio friendly safe approach. It would have been nice to see what they could have done if they progged it up more and followed what their previous bands had done. Maybe I long for the 70's era prog over the popped up stuff. |
Posted By: KarlMarkus
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 14:44
I like both versions of Asia. My Wetton-Era favourites are "Asia", "Alpha" and their latest "Omega". The Payne-Era favourites are "Aqua", "Arena" and "Aura". 
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Posted By: jplanet
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 14:47
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If there was a choice for reunited Asia, I think some of their best material is on Phoenix and the newest release...
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:20
| Neither. Asia was an attempt by some excellent musicians to sound main stream and it failed horribly. IMHO there is no redeeming qualities to any Asia material. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 16:28
you dragged a year-old thread by me, coincidentally as I came out with a new Asia poll, to slam Asia? Why... why.... why I don't have anything to say about it. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 03 2010 at 19:38
I'm by myself on this one, but I adore the first two Asia albums.  I voted for the original lineup.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 01:21
Gotta be the original line-up. Anyone here seen the recent Asia: Fantastia DVD? Proves that they still absolutely have it.  ------------- 
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 13:46
Never saw the pole from a year ago, was just giving my honest opinion.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 14:13
Oh, I forgot to mention that I saw them live (with the original lineup) last August. It was REALLY awesome! 
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 14:18
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I saw that their new album is out in Europe already, but I think that it still has a few weeks before its US release. I'm looking forward to it. -------------
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 14:28
| I'm not going to put down $35 to see the Payne Asia. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 04 2010 at 18:36
THE NEW ALBUM OMEGA =  Get it or be square also Anyone who says Payne Asia's Aria in 1994 is anything less than a masterpiece is stupid, in my humble opinion EDIT: by the way to Yanch, by year old thread I mean this thread which is from March 2009, Somebody dredged it up.  |
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 06 2010 at 16:28
| They're both pretty candy ass. There, I said it! |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 07 2010 at 23:01
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I'd prefer euthanasia, actually.
 After the first gawd-awful PAIN-Asia, I never made it as far as listening to any Payne-Asia.
Bet it's PAINful, though.
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: May 08 2010 at 07:46
| In terms of tracks, I think that, as an average, the original Asia is more atractive and powerfull. But Aura is the best album that Wetton or Payne Asia had done. The track Free is for me the best one of Asia ever. |