Which country in Scandinavia has the best music?
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Topic: Which country in Scandinavia has the best music?
Posted By: topofsm
Subject: Which country in Scandinavia has the best music?
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 00:51
Due to my conversation the other day with Hughes and Umur, I made a poll out of Scandinavia. Vote for the country with the best exports in terms of music. People include Iceland and Finland in Scandinavia too apparently, so I decided to be inclusive.
I have a strong nag that Sweden is going to win....
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 01:55
I'm biased
I don't think I listen to anything Norvegian, but all those other countries produced some of my favorites like Mew (Denmark), SIgur Rós and Sólstafir (Iceland) and Opeth and many others (Sweden). Wait, was White Willow from Norway?
edit: I think strictly speaking Scandinavia only means Sweden, Norway and Denmark as you thought, but at least we in Finland sometimes tend to think of Scandinavia and Nordic Countries as synonyms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 04:34
As I still like metal more than prog, Scandinavia is inevitable in music for me Norway has a very vital (or shall I say dead?) metal scene, yet I clearly do not favour black metal that much and only found few other at least interesting bands from there. Sweden has not only some great metal acts, but also modern prog, yet the pop music there is horrible to me. While I up to now found nothing interesting from Denmark, Finland also has great metal acts of all its subgenres. What can I say about Iceland? Sigur Rós is the only I really like, other let's say post-rocj abd related are not interesting to me.
I have to say Finland in conclusion, followed closely by Sweden, then Iceland and Norway plus Denmark far behind.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 04:39
^You should try Sólstafir if you're into metal, Sigur Rós and prog Or have you already?
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 04:55
Keppa4v wrote:
^You should try Sólstafir if you're into metal, Sigur Rós and prog Or have you already?
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Sounds interesting, really. I'll give them a try..
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 05:09
Magyar Posse. End of conversation.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 05:22
Landberk
Bo Hansson
both Sweden
BTW,
Glad to see Iceland mentioned also, although not considered progressive on this site Bjork definitely is a contender along with Sigur Ros
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 05:27
Which country is ABBA from?
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 05:30
Tuzvihar wrote:
Which country is ABBA from? |
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Posted By: British Tradition
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 05:47
It's funny, Abba probably are my favourite scandinavian band . I don't like metal or anglagard at all. I haven't heard Samla Mammas Manna though so all is not yet lost.
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 06:37
Sweden. Hands Down!
I have been seeing some good stuff coming out of Norway the last few years, however.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 07:20
Sweden. The greatest (and probably largest) metal scene in the world.
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 08:30
I think Sigur Ros is the only prog band ever to come out of Iceland. Correct me if im wrong.
I love Sigur Ros, but that's one really good bands vs. Sweeden with many good bands. My vote goes to Sweeden!
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 08:47
^ http://www.progarchives.com/Bands-country.asp?country=92 - http://www.progarchives.com/Bands-country.asp?country=92 Here's what the Archives know from Iceland. I wasn't aware that Sólstafir was here, I've gotta add their new album later today...
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Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 09:05
The country that brought us The Flower Kings, Moon Safari and so on.
However, Norway is also very strong with Gazpacho and Green Carnation.
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 11:03
Sweden by a long shot.
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 11:06
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 12:04
I'll choose Norway, but in the end Sweden probably has the most quality music coming out of it (A.K.A Cult of Luna).
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Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 12:39
One more vote for Sweden. TFK, Karmakanic, Anglagard are all great. Then there are the metal bands which I will never like but they certainly attract many people to prog so props to them.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 13:08
Sverige , ahead of Suomi and Norge !
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 13:18
having been exposed to Finnish folk music through Raff...they get my vote. Love that stuff...
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 13:37
I can't vote. The only Scandinavian music I know is from the PA samples that I've heard druing the last four years. It may be easy to vote for Sweden, but there are a few beautiful gems from Finland as well...
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Posted By: inCognito710
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 14:44
It's obvious Sweden does - and not from the polls. Think about ones of the greatest names in music and you already think about Sweden : Yngwie Malmsteen, Therion, Abba, Roxette, Morgana Lefay, Tiamat, Lake Of Tears, Opeth, Europe, Hammerfall, The Flower Kings, In Flames, Landberk, Carptree, Algarnas Tradgard, Pain of Salvation, A.C.T. and many, many others. After Sweden, come Finland and Norway. These 3 are also similar in surface,with Sweden having the biggest number of inhabitants,as great as Norway and Finland have together.
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:18
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:22
If we take all music including prog, then Sweden for sure. But metal being most of my collection, I have to say I'm split between Sweden, Finland, and Norway. I love Norwegian Black Metal. Finland has given me some great acts. Sweden has a good black metal scene and the ever-declining death metal one (the US always had the edge on that).
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:26
Sweden, hell yep. Some absolutely classic albums came from bands from that country. Amazing innovations in the metal scene in Sweden, no doubt.
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 01:57
Norway, for the incredible and innovative jazz n electronic stuff
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Posted By: Trial and Error
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 02:55
inCognito710 wrote:
Yngwie Malmsteen, Therion, Abba, Roxette, Morgana Lefay, Tiamat, Lake Of Tears, Opeth, Europe, Hammerfall, The Flower Kings, In Flames |
1. Good, but I'm not that interested in his music. 2. Their early stuff is top notch, the latter more symphonic works I get out once all six months. They're not bad, but not my style. 3. Are negative points. 4. Have become worse per year. Skeleton Skeletron was the last album that had one decent song, and that wass a Stones cover. 5. Had one great song, and five good ones, but Headstones was the only album I'm really glad I have bought. 6. Point taken. 7. Negative point. 8. Bore me. Not my style at all. 9. Point taken. 10. Have been getting worse with every album after Jester Race. All after Clayman are completely forgettable, and Clayman is only decent. The rest I have either not heard or didn't like much.
Norway for me. Sweden has some strong contesters (Änglagard, Anekdoten, Opeth, Dark Tranquillity, etc.) but Norway is far better in metal, especially with Black Metal and Avant Garde Metal bands.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 04:00
superprog wrote:
Norway, for the incredible and innovative jazz n electronic stuff |
Yes, Norway's defenatly the best place for all kinds of jazz out of the Nordic countries, but in Prog and most other genres Sweden are miles ahead of the rest.
I ain't all that interested in metal and especially not progmetal (I do like Opeth) but Sweden's also got: Algarnas
Tradgård, Samla/Zamla/Lars Hollmer/Von Zamla, Kultivator, Blåkulla,
Arbete & Fritid, Archimedes Badkar, Ensemble Nimbus, Myrbein,
Atlas, Dungen, Nya Ljudbolaget, Kebnekaise, Kvartetten som Sprangde,
Ragnarök, Trettioåriga Kriget, November, Parsson Sound, Fortrangd Hushållsarbete, Flasket Brinner, Harvester, Bo Hansson, Vildkaktus + those 90's revival bands already mentioned and more..
Btw:Since Denmark has got no votes: Both Secret Oyster and Burnin' Red Ivanhoe are great 70's proggy jazzfusion, and new band Afenginn is awsome.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 04:42
There´s no compitition IMO. Sweden of course.
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Posted By: hermosotrozo
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 08:07
i know that nobody will agree with me, but i would say MLTR. and i have seen them performing live, it reminds me of my college days, and my then GF and now wife! so i am the only one in the thread that's said Denmark!
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:56
Norway for me, but Finland is very close. There are certainly more good bands in Swedenin numbers but the Norwegian and Finnish music sounds more special and unique to me.
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Posted By: Tzibo
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 14:55
Yeah, Sweden probably has good bands, but neither do I know of them or do I listen to them. Opeth's growling... I don't like and Pain of Salvation, I think I should try it, it sounds pretty good. Sweden has also one of the awesomest bands in the world, Kent, but it neither will take the place from Finland. Not trying to be boasting - I think it relates more to my backgrounds as a Finn, you know, I've of course been exposed more to Finnish bands than Swedish and such. So, Finland has CMX, Eppu Normaali, Kuusumun Profeetta, Hassisen Kone, Havana Black, Ultra Bra, Sielun Veljet etc., well, yeah, Eppu Normaali is rock and Ultra Bra some kinda choirpop (awesome still) but still, I like Finland the most... And I think that Kingston Wall and Circle and such do for the prog scene, even though I haven't heard them much... You can always recommend new bands that I'm not aware of to me. :P
PS. I clicked Sweden, accidentally. ._.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 16:51
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 17:57
Sweden
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 22:16
But guys...
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 23 2009 at 23:55
^Oh come on! It's unfair to bring the most ridiculous photo shoot ever to the conversation!
I don't know what they were thinking. They don't ;look evil but extremely ridiculous. many norwegian black metal albums have covers and pics that are quite scary or freakish... But Immortal.. they just never could do it...
Their music, though, is brilliant, the great Pure Holocaust and At the Heart of Winter and the great last album with one of the best riffs ever, the one in Tyrants.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 00:29
Just love that pic.
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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 02:09
Most definitely Sweden, then Norway next (for their great Avant-Garde BM...)
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 02:17
Yep bands like Ved Buens Ende, Virus ( none are exactly black metal of course, but certainly extreme in their own respect) and Dødheimsgard ( DHG) are favorites of mine. But Sweden does have the most influential and prolific prog and metal scene in Scandinavia IMO.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 02:55
I may be biased, but Finland it is.
Each country has its good bands though...
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 19:26
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: February 24 2009 at 21:16
The T wrote:
^Oh come on! It's unfair to bring the most ridiculous photo shoot ever to the conversation!
I don't know what they were thinking. They don't ;look evil but extremely ridiculous. many norwegian black metal albums have covers and pics that are quite scary or freakish... But Immortal.. they just never could do it...
Their music, though, is brilliant, the great Pure Holocaust and At the Heart of Winter and the great last album with one of the best riffs ever, the one in Tyrants.
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I've always wanted to try listening to them, but have been too afraid... Do you think I would like them?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 01:41
Dim wrote:
The T wrote:
^Oh come on! It's unfair to bring the most ridiculous photo shoot ever to the conversation!
I don't know what they were thinking. They don't ;look evil but extremely ridiculous. many norwegian black metal albums have covers and pics that are quite scary or freakish... But Immortal.. they just never could do it...
Their music, though, is brilliant, the great Pure Holocaust and At the Heart of Winter and the great last album with one of the best riffs ever, the one in Tyrants.
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I've always wanted to try listening to them, but have been too afraid... Do you think I would like them? |
If you have any soft spot for black metal, Immortal is one of the best of them
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Posted By: Trial and Error
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 04:24
Immortal is by far the most melodic of the classic BM bands, and as such pretty approachable, with Emperor coming second. But unlike those Immortal are also good, not just approachable.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 10:09
Sweden .
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Posted By: Eraserhead
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 12:58
Sweden, easily!
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 08:14
Now that the thread is moved from prog-to general music discussions, my nordic top three changes from:
Sweden Finland Norway
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Sweden Norway Finland
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Posted By: Fleetway
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 05:26
Keppa4v wrote:
I'm biased
I don't think I listen to anything Norvegian, but all those other countries produced some of my favorites like Mew (Denmark), SIgur Rós and Sólstafir (Iceland) and Opeth and many others (Sweden). Wait, was White Willow from Norway?
edit: I think strictly speaking Scandinavia only means Sweden, Norway and Denmark as you thought, but at least we in Finland sometimes tend to think of Scandinavia and Nordic Countries as synonyms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_countries
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Oh finland and island is scandinavia. So is greenland tho since thats a danish settlement even tho its in northamerica.
I vote sweden... And its not just cause im swedish. I cant see why anyone would vote anything else unless they're into metal, but we have that here aswell.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 13:21
First, Iceland and Denmark are not from Scandinavia. Scandinavia is a peninsula with 3 countries :Norway, Sweden and Finland. Second I'm going with Sweden, one of the piles of prog music. The rest of the countries has good music too, some of them even excelent.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 14:01
b_olariu wrote:
First, Iceland and Denmark are not from Scandinavia. Scandinavia is a peninsula with 3 countries :Norway, Sweden and Finland. Second I'm going with Sweden, one of the piles of prog music. The rest of the countries has good music too, some of them even excelent. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia
Scandinavia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#cite_note-0 - is a historical and geographical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subregion - region in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe - northern Europe that includes the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Peninsula - Scandinavian Peninsula . It consists of the kingdoms of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway - Norway , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden - Sweden , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark - Denmark ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#cite_note-1 - some authorities also include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland - Finland and some might even include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland - Iceland . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#cite_note-2 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia#cite_note-3 - |
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Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: March 07 2009 at 06:10
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actually like Swedish (prog) metal so much. Many Swedish music (though being
great many ways) sounds artificial (especially those neo- post- and math-
things.. the popular ones) or boring for me. But there's of course
folk-oriented avant-prog etc. My favourites like Änglagård, Myrbein,
Pan.Thy.Monium.
And I don't like Norwegian (true) black metal - there's nice avant-garde metal
bands, but in the end, they aren't so loveable for me. There's some kind of
hype in me, too, but maybe they just aren't pushing the lines enough and not
prog enough. Of course Wobbler etc but actually think it's quite similar to black metal :D
Sigur Rós, is it prog? Denmark... Hmm, I like Mew but actually I don't know
many bands there :S Recommendations?
Actually I'll go with Finland, though I'm Finnish and I thought I would choose
Sweden for the amount of artists. Those avant-prog/folk bands are more like..
tinkering.
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jazz and metal in Finland, and maybe it makes some good, too. But there’s prog
bands like Haikara, Höyry-kone (actually beats eg Swedish Myrbein), - Tabula Rasa that I like.
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Posted By: cronholm
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 15:49
Whereas Norway has an excellent prog/folk/black/etc scene I think Finland can compete sucessfully these days: Moonsorrow and Swallow the Sun alone knocks out most of the competition.
But seriously folks; we´re talking about the country that produced Opeth, PoS. Änglagård, Burst, Memfis, Anekdoten, Bo Hansson, T,G&S, Trettioåriga Kriget, Kebenekaise and about a thousand other great prog/folk/etc bands. If you overturn a fallen tree in a Swedish forest there´s probably a world class prog band hibernating underneath. No contest at all.
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Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 19:52
Sveden!
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 08:08
sweden for me , i like Opeth too much, also Anekdoten, the Flower Kings, Kaipa, Anglagard .. Pg.Lost .. i love sweden
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Posted By: hagguhsem
Date Posted: April 19 2009 at 06:12
Sweden has the best prog (Opeth, Meshuggah), but Finland has many good metal bands (Swallow the Sun, Profane Omen, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Moonsorrow, Callisto). And in Finland metal is just as mainstream as any other genre.
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Posted By: Limbja
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 07:04
Finland gets my vote, for Alamaailman Vasarat, Amorphis, Circle and Höyry-kone, plus (arguably) some of the best musicians in the demo music scene (see www.scene.org).
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Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: May 12 2009 at 19:38
Sweden and Norway come close but I've got to say Sweden
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Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: May 24 2009 at 18:23
The country that produced Soundtrack of Our Lives....
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 10:49
Länge leve Sverige! well coming from swe and all the vote wasent that hard...
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 10:58
Lost Follower wrote:
The country that produced Soundtrack of Our Lives.... |
Yes thats the right answer they are probobly my personal favorite of all bands from swe! Allso the band Union carbide production that was the pre STOOL band allso with Ebbot as singer but more punky is realy good.
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Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 11:37
I've seen STOOL one many occasions in London down the years. Fine band, though when they moved up to a larger Venue (The Astoria) it didn't quite work and they haven't been back since. They play London next month I believe so I may have to get me a ticket.
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