Do you consider the Abbey Road Medleys as one song
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Topic: Do you consider the Abbey Road Medleys as one song
Posted By: ModernRocker79
Subject: Do you consider the Abbey Road Medleys as one song
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 16:11
Do you consider the Abbey Road Medleys as one song?
The Abbey Road Medleys is a song cycle suite of several short songs designed as a single entity in medley form. It was planned and some of the melodies are repeated. So to me it's one song. Many people write songs in fragments and make it a whole song. It was designed to be one song. It's form is unusual.
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 17:54
I consider it as one medley.
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 18:02
I agree with you.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 19:01
Absolutely 100% without a doubt, one song. Repeating theme, it flows, and prog bands like Transatlantic consider it one song (that's what Suite Charlotte Pike was modeled after).
Yes, The Beatles made a 16-minute song.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 20 2009 at 19:02
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 18:19
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Here we go...
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Anyway, on the topic of this discussion, even John Lennon considers it one song. It is definitely one song, though straight rock enthusiasts like to call it different songs.
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Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 18:51
Yes. It's one song for all the reasons already stated.
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 21:47
I don't consider it one song but I adore all the songs flowing into each other so much.
I'm going to stand in my little corner now.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 21:55
topofsm wrote:
I don't consider it one song but I adore all the songs flowing into each other so much. |
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 26 2009 at 14:51
topofsm wrote:
I don't consider it one song but I adore all the songs flowing into each other so much.
I'm going to stand in my little corner now. |
How does it flow, but still isn't one song? It has a repeating theme as well.
What is the definition of 'song' in your mind if flowing without breaks, repeating music, and repeating lyrical themes isn't enough?
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 00:08
^I see it as more of a suite. For one thing, the songs do flow, but there are several breaks in the music. "You Never Give me Your Money" fades out, and there's a short break between that and "Sun King". Then there's a break between "She Came in through the Bathroom Window" and "Golden Slumbers". Besides, there's quite a few songs with unrelated musical ideas thrown in there. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy it less, Once the frantic percussion begins at the end of "Polythene Pam" comes in, I get terribly excited. It's just wonderful. And then when the trumpets play the melody in "Carry that Weight", it's just awesome.
I don't think of 6DOIT as one song either, and it flows together much better than side 2 of Abbey Road.
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 01:28
Separate songs (in a medley) for me.
For me a "usual" song doesn't repeat music themes so quickly after one another and though each song being short quite short,They all take on there own persona.
And I guess seeing there separate tracks that probably means there indented to be separate.
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Posted By: ModernRocker79
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 09:20
topofsm wrote:
^I see it as more of a suite. For one thing, the songs do flow, but there are several breaks in the music. "You Never Give me Your Money" fades out, and there's a short break between that and "Sun King". Then there's a break between "She Came in through the Bathroom Window" and "Golden Slumbers". Besides, there's quite a few songs with unrelated musical ideas thrown in there. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy it less, Once the frantic percussion begins at the end of "Polythene Pam" comes in, I get terribly excited. It's just wonderful. And then when the trumpets play the melody in "Carry that Weight", it's just awesome.
I don't think of 6DOIT as one song either, and it flows together much better than side 2 of Abbey Road. |
Well "You Never Give Me Your Money" was linked with "Sun King" on purpose by Paul.
"McCartney was playing with loops again and assembled a collection of Moog and other sounds for use on the album. “Paul took a plastic bag containing a dozen loose strands of mono tape into Abbey Road,” writes Beatles’ archivist Mark Lewisohn, “where—together with the production staff—he spent the afternoon in the studio three control room transferring the best of these onto professional four-track tape. The effects—sounding like bells, birds, bubbles and crickets chirping allowed for a perfect cross fade in the medley from Sun King into You Never Give Me Your Money".
Electronic Music and the Beatles by Thom Holmes
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:26
i always considered them separate songs too
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 19:21
I usually consider albums a unitary peice of work if it's a band like this, so most certainly yes.
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Posted By: AlanD
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 06:15
No, I consider it a song cycle.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 02 2009 at 06:55
ModernRocker79 wrote:
topofsm wrote:
^I see it as more of a suite. For one thing, the songs do flow, but there are several breaks in the music. "You Never Give me Your Money" fades out, and there's a short break between that and "Sun King". Then there's a break between "She Came in through the Bathroom Window" and "Golden Slumbers". Besides, there's quite a few songs with unrelated musical ideas thrown in there. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy it less, Once the frantic percussion begins at the end of "Polythene Pam" comes in, I get terribly excited. It's just wonderful. And then when the trumpets play the melody in "Carry that Weight", it's just awesome.
I don't think of 6DOIT as one song either, and it flows together much better than side 2 of Abbey Road. |
Well "You Never Give Me Your Money" was linked with "Sun King" on purpose by Paul.
"McCartney was playing with loops again and assembled a collection of Moog and other sounds for use on the album. “Paul took a plastic bag containing a dozen loose strands of mono tape into Abbey Road,” writes Beatles’ archivist Mark Lewisohn, “where—together with the production staff—he spent the afternoon in the studio three control room transferring the best of these onto professional four-track tape. The effects—sounding like bells, birds, bubbles and crickets chirping allowed for a perfect cross fade in the medley from Sun King into You Never Give Me Your Money".
Electronic Music and the Beatles by Thom Holmes
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Call me Mr Picky but that's the wrong way round.
Here's a bit of trivia - Her Majesty was originally supposed to be in the middle - the opening guitar chord is where it was edited from either Mean Mr Mustard or Polythene Pam (I can never remember which).
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Posted By: Odisseos
Date Posted: March 18 2009 at 09:15
Separate all tracks and they are nothing. But togheter and in the final order they work and make a wonderful collage, pure genius. It doesn't matter when, how and for what you write a suit, the important thing is what you listen at the end. That is music.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 08:43
A bunch of separate songs that fit toghter.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 13 2009 at 07:26
sure they are separate songs... but ones that should be listened to as if they were just one song.
same as side 1 of ELO's On the Third Day... though that was musically more connected as one long song.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 14:30
ModernRocker79 wrote:
Do you consider the Abbey Road Medleys as one song?
The Abbey Road Medleys is a song cycle suite of several short songs designed as a single entity in medley form. It was planned and some of the melodies are repeated. So to me it's one song. Many people write songs in fragments and make it a whole song. It was designed to be one song. It's form is unusual.
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 17 2009 at 14:47
It works extremely well together, but there are some individual songs that can stand on their own seperate from such a medley. I guess yes... there are repeated musical themes and its seems natural when listened as a whole
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