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Topic: Best Iron Maiden epic in terms of composition
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: Best Iron Maiden epic in terms of composition
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 09:59
All of these songs are at least 8 minutes long, so you can't choose phantom of the opera, among other shorter songs.

the poll is based on musical composition, so if you feel Sign of the Cross is fantastic but the singer sucks, you might choose it.



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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 10:20
Close between Rime and Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son.  I went with Rime Of The Ancient Mariner.


Posted By: Diaby
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 10:43
The Legacy, closely followed by For the Greater Good of God.

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 12:59
The Legacy for me.


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:03
Legacy is very very VERY close behind, but Dream of Mirrors pulls it for me. Astounding song every time I hear it.

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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:08
You repeat Alexander in the Poll

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Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:10
Embarrassed I fixed it


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:11
Caught Somewhere In Time (7:26)


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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:20
^^^ that would be a mid-length


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:36
I voted for "Brighter than a Thousand Suns" from the band's latest effort, but in the poll there are several other contenders - namely "Dance of Death" (simply marvellous) and "Dream of Mirrors".


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:47
Dance of Death was probably my most played song back in highschool (yes, I am that young )


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:59
alll these years later, I still have to go with Rime...(listened to when I was in High Sch...Embarrassed)

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 14:07
I wish Maiden was in their classic years when I was in high school !


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 14:45
I can't understand the love for Rime, it is my least liked long song from Iron Maiden, excluding the stuff in virtual XI.




Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 15:38
I would have gone for Alexander... (for patriotic reasons) but 7th son is even a 'greater' song... Wink


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 15:43
Although I haven´t heard them all, I´m gonna go with Pashandale. A very mature side of Maiden, epic, not cheesy (not that they are...) and ooooh sooooo yummy

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Posted By: Lev
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 16:21
Originally posted by Roj M30 Roj M30 wrote:

Close between Rime and Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son.  I went with Rime Of The Ancient Mariner.


This exactly.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 23:05

Rime, one of my all time favorite tracks, proves that you can do a 100% Prog track without mellotrons, synths, etc.

Radical changes, excellent lyrics, great coherence, a total masterpiece.

Iván



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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 23:32

WHAT?!? No "Phantom?" That's, like, the best Maiden track ever...and it only misses the "eight minute mark" by about a minute...crap, wait, it's longer than "Powerslave?" REALLY? Doubled shocked I is...I'll see you all in the shorter songs thread...

(Oh, and, probably Rime of the Ancient Mariner.)



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Posted By: mobby
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 02:32
PHANTOM OF OPERA!


Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 04:40
Rime!

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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 09:43
Rime of the Ancient Mariner! Clap
Also, special mentions to "Phantom of the Opera"!


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 12:32

Easy....Ancient Mariner.



Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 15:50
Ancient MarinerThumbs Up

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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 18:12
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Rime, one of my all time favorite tracks, proves that you can do a 100% Prog track without mellotrons, synths, etc.

Radical changes, excellent lyrics, great coherence, a total masterpiece.

Iván



It's not really a prog track though, kinda prog related.
Regardless, amazing song anyway, one of Iron Maiden's finestBig smile


Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 18:36
It's between Rime and Alexander. Really can't choose coz I love both.

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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: February 07 2009 at 08:14
Paschendale or Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Two of my favourite Maiden songs, that's for sure.


Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 09:47
Dance of death, for sure.'' Fantom of the opera'' is not included here, damn good song.


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 09:54
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Dance of death, for sure.'' Fantom of the opera'' is not included here, damn good song.


I'm quite sure "Phantom... " is included in one of the other two Maiden polls. This one is for longer tracks, which in prog terms we'd call 'epics'.


Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 10:00
POTO  clocks 7:07 so i would call it epic, maybe not in structure but in lenght,yes.


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 16:22
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

POTO  clocks 7:07 so i would call it epic, maybe not in structure but in lenght,yes.


Phantom of the opera is in the mid-length song polls here:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=55348

There's also a poll for the songs that have more standard durations (around less than 5 1/2 min)


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 09 2009 at 00:18
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son by far, beats te one from Powerslave, at least for me.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: February 09 2009 at 02:10
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

Seventh Son of a Seventh Son by far, beats te one from Powerslave, at least for me.


Ditto.


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 18:36
BTW have you notice the whole of semitones that several Maiden songs have in this tracks:
 
Rime of the ancient Mariner About the 4 minutes before finish (done by Harris)
Caught Somewhere in Time in the middle of the song. done by the guitar and bass BTW quite similar to the Rime thing.
 
on the contrary in the early days they do not use that several notes
Did someone note that?


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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: February 16 2009 at 16:56
Shocked This was close between Rime of the Ancient Mariner and Brighter Than a Thousand Suns, however loads of people have voted for Rime, so I went for Brighter Than a Thousand Suns (it's a brilliant track & my fave from their latest album, A Matter of Life & Death).


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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 15:58
I cast my vote for "Hallowed Be Thy Name". Oh wait.... that's not long enough. Then I guess it's "Rime Of the Ancient Mariner".

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Posted By: Luis de Sousa
Date Posted: February 25 2009 at 10:36
SSOASS - just because of the Mellotron.

DOD, Ancient Mariner, Sign of the Cross are at least as good.

In terms of pure composition, some tiny tracks are pretty stunning like Futureal. I'm also very fond of Caught Somewhere in Time - an happy blend of symph and space.

Time thresholds are really not that much of classification framework...


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Posted By: Eraserhead
Date Posted: February 27 2009 at 12:47
Sign of the Cross

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Posted By: borussia
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 09:29
and phantom of the opera ??????????????????????


Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 12:06
"Seventh Son of a Seventh Son"

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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:14
I love Seventh Son the most. So epic...and the final two minutes being some of the heaviest stuff they've ever done. 

Honourable mentions to Rime... and The Legacy. Both very good indeed.


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Posted By: TheLastBaron
Date Posted: September 18 2009 at 01:46
I know someone said this before, and since I completely agree I will restate that post.

Rime of the Ancient Mariner. A great composition and great piece of prog related metal using no synth, no keyboards, no moogs( don't have anything against those instruments though), just good old duel guitar, bass, drums and the amazing vocal style of Bruce.

 


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Posted By: Mladen_Serbia
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 13:47
Sign of the cross. Best song ever.


Posted By: meatal
Date Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:21
Tough call, Rime of the Ancient Mariner or 7th Son. Both great, I'll go with 7th Son.

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Posted By: decypher
Date Posted: November 13 2009 at 05:16
Alexander the Great, just because Caught Somewhere in Time is too short.


Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: November 13 2009 at 17:09
Dream of Mirrors. The live version is great (Rock In Rio)

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Posted By: Rushlover13
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 14:49
Rime of the Ancient Mariner is extremely awesome.  Seventh Son of a Seventh Son is very close, but both have excellent lyrics and musicianship.

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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 16:16

The rime is unbelievable



Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: January 15 2010 at 16:50
I'm not overly familiar with half of the list (mainly the stuff after Brave New World), but I recall Dream Of Mirrors being a pretty cool song from their Rio performance.  I won't vote though.


Posted By: Gillywibble
Date Posted: January 17 2010 at 14:58
Hallowed Be Thy Name.

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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: January 18 2010 at 06:41
Here's another vote for Rime Of The Ancient Mariner. Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 18 2010 at 16:25
Rime of the Ancient Mariner........by a long shot. I mean come on, even the title is awesome. This song has a begining, middle and end, gives you a message at the end...a complete story. No need for any follow up songs to explain this classic poem/fable.
 
Up the Irons!!!!
 


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 08:34
Rime of the Ancient Mariner


Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: January 19 2010 at 16:02
I highly adore To Tame a Land, but it's not in the list. I soppose it's not enough long. From the list I'm with the magnificent Legacy from the latest album. It's high class song in terms of everything.ClapClapClap


Posted By: progrules
Date Posted: January 20 2010 at 08:57
Can't believe Rime is winning by such enormous margin over Alexander the Great which is really their best song ever. C'mon guys !!!

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