gay stereotypes
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Topic: gay stereotypes
Posted By: Guests
Subject: gay stereotypes
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:00
| it is sad that the gays dont even realize they perpetuate the negative reception they get with (the aforementioned) camping and just their basic attitudes in general....two homos from this site have just attacked my songs but with no reasons other than (its bad music, too techno) yet one of them only listened to one song one time and went on to categorize the rest of my music which they hadnt even heard.....obviously the reactions to my blunt yet truthful and non-malevolent statements on the homophobe thread....i mean if you expect criticism to be taken seriously you have to give specific reasons why you like or do not like something...yet of course they informed me that i just cant take criticism and therefore should not have asked for any....also i have found homosexuals wont allow you to just dislike a gay man as a person, you cant find them unpleasant ...that isnt a decision you can make based on a gay subject's personality....its much more (or less)than that according to them.....if you dotn like a gay man the only reason possible is cuz he's gay....these are the types of attitudes that make people intolerant of homos |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:07
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....also i have found you cant just dislike a gay man as a person, you cant find them unpleasant ....its more than that.....if you dotn like a gay man the only reason possible is cuz he's gay....these are the types of attitudes that make people intolerant of homos
Not just homosexuals but other races too! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:09
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hopelevre, do you have anything sensible to say? If you don't just shut up please!! You're annoying everyone!!! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:10
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Homos????? I'm not a huge advocate of political correctness, but it seems you are trying to provoke a fight. Try and have little respect and dont tar everyone with the same brush of ignorance.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:10
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very true snow but i see the percentages the highest among :
1: homosexuals 2: black americans(they just almost 100 % generally are steeped in "hate whitey cuz he's hating you" from the time they are born, of course there are always exceptions, but on the whole they are far more racist towards whites than whites toward them, again this is the dynamic in the states i cant speak for the globe, but I dont see it really being that way anywhere else) |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:11
| what the abbreviation of homosexual isnt politically correct ? get over yurselves...are you kidding? i can say homosexual but not homo?...some of you people on this site are swallowing so much of their own sh*t they think it must be epicurious |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:16
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Generalisation is always a bad thing. Period! If there is a problem with black against white in the US then there will be a reason for this. Your 'white' administration will be too afraid to examine what those reasons are. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:18
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Homo was used as a derogatory term in the UK in the 70's/80's. Maybe it wasn't in the states. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
hopelevre wrote:Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:20
| yes of course....leave it to a brit to let us kno the "proper" way....you know nothign of the problem nor how it manifests itself but are content to blame it on the "white" administration....yea yu brits have it all figured out, just dotn allow too many negroes in the country and yu wont have any problems, way to go...by the way ,im caucasian and that same white admin. that is oppressing the negroes is oppressign me the chinese the mexicans and alot of others who werrent born into said admin. but you dotn see us all walking around saying they are singling us out and blaming everyone but ourselves for not being ambitious ebough to do soemhting about it....see , the other oppresesed groups realize the only way to change our situation is to get out there and work for it, the blacks are content to fester in the filth they are in and wait for what they think the world owes them, that is why refugees from 50 years ago now are upper middle class here whereas the blacks economic class is not changing even though they have had the same rights for more years |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:24
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you clearly missed out on a formal education. Your spelling and grammar are dreadful. I guess you have been opressed. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:27
| how rich....my grammar english and spelling are tiptop asshole, a typo isnt a fault in one's education, and why is it necessary to punctuate forum posts |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:31
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I like racist, they are fun ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 11:43
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Hi Hopelevre , could you edit your first post and take my name out of it! I wish not to be associated with this thread! You cannot take a sentence out of context especially on a such a touchy sublect and involve anyone you like! I will also PM you this post. Thank you for doing so! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 13:47
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i am no racist....in fact i have several black "friends"...tehy come over to my house and i help them produce their songs with my equipment at no charge, yet amongst themselves i am considered a "chump"....tehy will talk derisively about me in my presence in their own esoteric jargon as if im"too white" to see through its negative oversions...nevertheless i dotn hold this against them....i realize this is a product of their environment, and they are welcomed back into my home time and again.....here is a link to a song they freestyled to while i helped lay what i think is definately an innovative-for-the-genre style beat...further, i was very good friends with a homosexual at a time in my life, we spent much time together(up to 3-4 nights a week, including overnight stays in the others' home, i am NOT homophobic)until he realized i would never leave my fiancee or even betray her once sexually with him....i made attempts to rekindle our friendship several times but they wer not allowed to avail me
"the p.j.'s" http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2M7HKOW80YSUS3016XFZ6ZMOE N |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 14:06
??? It's just as easy to dislike a gay man as it is a straight man, surely? |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 17:16
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Actually I just gave my honest opinion. I thought I even treated you with kid gloves on. You have a right to your opinion on gays and your posts didn't offend me. I listened to a 2nd song and found it better...Silly something or another...it was barely 2 minutes long is all I remember. You had PMEd me and I even responded nice to you...I am not sure what your problem is but sorry if I hurt your feelings For someone who is NOT gay, you sure are sensitive. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 17:27
| im sorry ...im glad yu liked the other song better and i just felt you didnt give my work enough of a chance more because of personality conflict than other reasons....no hard feelings, and i have meant nothing ive posted here as an insult by any means, to any one person or group ,...sometimes what i say is said with a bit of sarcasm to proove a point and many times i dotn make it obvious enough to all involved that that is what it is.... |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 17:45
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Its very sad that homophobes as well as racists still exist in this world... very sad indeed! ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 17:50
Well first of all you are quoting me and I didnt say that! I was quoting Hopelerve. But what you say is his point anyway, if you dislike a gay man you can be accused of disliking him because hes gay(being the reason) At least thats what I think Hopelerve was saying. There you go, as clear as mud ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:02
| I get uncomfortable around gays (I am not one despite some of my stupid posts and PMs) because a) I think they might be "checking me out" ; b) they CAN act girly and giddy ; c) I get weirded out when they kiss or hold hands. I will tolerate the gay community, but I can't accept it. IOW, I will never hurt the gay community, but I certainly won't advocate them either. |
Posted By: gleam
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:21
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Well that was interesting... As an ex-Marine, I'm against a draft simply because an all volunteer armed force is better motivated. However, I would venture that the world would be a better place if service were compulsory. My reasoning for this is simple. When you join your put through "boot camp", which is designed to break you down. The objective is to get everyone to the same level, your no longer black, white, asian or hispanic - your a scumbag. Then they build you back as a team, you learn how to rely on each other- you become a Marine. Most important, you get past race or whether the guy is gay (and there are and they fight just as good as the straight guys). You develop a code of comaradarie that every Marine carries with him/her the rest of their life.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:28
| the world isnt a war zone and it just doesnt work that way outside of the military and sports teams |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:42
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are you: 1. trying to provoke an argument? you see what it gets- you end up with the morons that agree on your side, versus the idiots yelling back who haven't figured out yet that it's pointless because you can't be reasonable for more than two posts at a time. 2. so burdened with emotional problems that this is a convoluted cry for help? Even if you did know yourself well enough to ask, this is not the place for psychiatric assistance. 3. Just really, really in need of attention and don't care how you get it? Well, you got it. It's not that satisfying, though, is it? I mean, the rough picture of yourself that you've drawn of yourself isn't likely to encourage respect or empathy, even if the decreasing number of folks who you haven't yet alienated were willing or capable of such feelings. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:43
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Coming from a Straight guy our age who has actually been asked out by a homosexual, dont worry about it. If they actually do confront you if they are checking you out, all you have to do is say no because your straight. thats it, its easy. |
Posted By: gleam
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 20:22
James Lee, I expected a retort such as Hopelevre's, however I'd like to know which camp I fall into (moron or idiot?).
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 20:34
gleam: if you're still involved in this discussion, you're as much of an idiot as me.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: gleam
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 20:37
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Thanks for clarifying, for some strange reason I feel better.
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Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:21
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I HATE political correctness!! We have so much of it down here, and it makes freedom of speech slightly difficult
We have serious problems with minorities down here: for some reason, I'm the hated enemy of many gays or people of varying ethnic backgrounds, simply because I apparently "hate" them - load of sh** if you ask me. At University here in NZ, in order to get into Law you need an A average...if you have a Maori (minority ethnic group in NZ) background, you can get in on a C average. If THAT'S not racism, what is it? Do you really want to end up with C-Grade lawyers doing damage in society? There IS the odd one who makes the most of his opportunity, but believe me, they're difficult to find. Sorry everyone, possibly the wrong thread to rant against PC-ness. ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:28
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because otherwise your posts will look like this and after awhile it gets mind numbing to read dont you agree because i know i sure as hell do but then again its entirely possible that i have no idea what im talking about and you can read this easily so dont listen to me i guess
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: April 27 2005 at 05:26
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Hopelevre: Useful_Idiot has kindly explained why you should write your posts clearly. Its so that people can read them. Obviously. Asshole.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 27 2005 at 05:49
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Hopelevre, I will not take part into the fight/dispute in this thread but Useful and Blacksword are right! Your posts are difficult to read as you systematically ignore capitals , punctuation and never use paragraphs. They come off as a block and are not aerial enough! So your ideas/opinions might have a difficult time coming across clearly this bulky text! Nobody suggested anything at your grammar or sentence structures. Peace PS Thank you for erasing my name when asked! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:31
| sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorryitwonthappenaga in |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:21
Ahhhh I understand. I just read it out of context, you see. I should think I do dislike a greater proportion of gay people than straight people though, simply because a greater proportion are camp and I find camp people incredibly irritating. |