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Topic: The Beatles!!!
Posted By: clarke2001
Subject: The Beatles!!!
Date Posted: February 01 2009 at 16:03


The whole Beatles discography is quite messy now: someone did a great job adding singles, but do we really need all those american version of album LP's, especially if  the covers and the titles are the same?!?



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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 01 2009 at 16:27
I agree. The only American released album still considered part of the official back-catelogue is "Magical Mystery Tour", because It is the only way to get certain Beatles singles on CD proper, I believe.
 
But yes . . . the discography is quite ugly looking. Unfortunate that one of the greatest bands in history has such an uncared for page on the archives.


Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 01 2009 at 17:33
Check Forum Abuse Reporting Thread pals! Smile

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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 16:09

I think all of the "(US Version)" entitled albums (excluding Magical Mystery Tour of course, since like I say, it is now considered part of the official discography) should be placed this compilations section. After all, these first few US Released were just that: compilations that Capitol put out. They weren't true studio albums in that they were pieces of many seperate actual studio albums.

 
That's just my view.


Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:53
Sorry, Bartek, why should I check the "Forum Abuse Reporting thread", and where, and what to look for?

Sorry to bring this up again, but here's the mess.

Something New
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23309 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23309
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23310 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23310
is listed twice, under albums and compilations.
Yesterday and Today (the one with gruesome cover)
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23328 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23328
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23329 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23329
is also listed twice, under albums and compilations.

A Hard Day's Night (US version)
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17770 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17770
and
Help! (US version)
http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18010 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=18010
should be deleted, or preferably MERGED with official A Hard Day's Night (http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11066 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11066 ) and Help! (http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11068 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11068 ) entries, NOT moved to compilation section. The same applies to Rubber Soul (US version) (http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23355 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23355 ) and Revolver (US version) (http:/ http:///www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23356 - /www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=23356 ) which are currently under compilations section.

The Beatles' Second album (http:// http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11970 - www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=11970 ) also does not belong to the Beatles' official cannon, and I have doubts about Let It Be Naked too.











Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 10:24

Obviously duplicates should be removed but I feel the US versions of the early albums should be listed, as they are different to the UK versions, not only in track listings but often in actual versions of the songs.

I don't see a problem with Let it Be Naked - that's surely an official release?



Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 10:26
It would be useful if links were active, makes it easier to see what you meen.

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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 11:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

It would be useful if links were active, makes it easier to see what you meen.


I made links active, but the best overview is on the http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2407 - main Beatles' discography page .


Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Obviously duplicates should be removed but I feel the US versions of the early albums should be listed, as they are different to the UK versions, not only in track listings but often in actual versions of the songs.

I don't see a problem with Let it Be Naked - that's surely an official release?



Let It Be Naked might be fine - I'm not a Beatles expert...

As for US versions, I was referring to the http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35809 - Album Data Standards thread in the Collab Zone:

  2.8 If a re-issue changes the original track list, then a secondary track list should be given in full under the heading [in bold - use HTML codes <b> ..... </b>]



The fact the songs are different ( takes, mixes) ...well, I don't think it overtakes the official album released in the country of artist's origin...and it's actually a redundancy of the original catalogue...isn't it?Ermm




Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 04:54
The Beatles US albums aren't reissues. As this is an international site, the original US releases should be listed, if only for historical information.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 05:42
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

It would be useful if links were active, makes it easier to see what you meen.


I made links active, but the best overview is on the http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2407 - main Beatles' discography page .



Would it be possible to seperate them?

What I mean is have a seperate UK and US discography?


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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 06:40
Just looked at it and WOW

Really overfilled... Perhaps some sort of "folder" of Singles on a seperate page than this one should be prepared?




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