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Topic: Steve Hackett with Chris Squire = new album(s)(?)
Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Subject: Steve Hackett with Chris Squire = new album(s)(?)
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 06:54
 
The following statement is taken from Steve Hackett's official website http://www.stevehackett.com - www.stevehackett.com
 
"Steve is currently hard at work on lots of lovely new material for his next rock album. It's rumoured that the album will feature YES star Chris Squire on bass and vocals and Simon Phillips on drums and perhaps a few other surprise guests. In between times he's been putting in some time on a Hackett & Squire  album project."
 
Interesting indeed!
 
 



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 07:11
Well, since Hackett has turned away from trying to make commercial music, I'm guessing we won't get another GTR (the Hackett/Howe collaboration).


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 07:21
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, since Hackett has turned away from trying to make commercial music, I'm guessing we won't get another GTR (the Hackett/Howe collaboration).
 
I wouldn't mind that actually, I like the GTR album very much! Shocked  I even think Hackett's much hated Cured album is quite nice. Only some of these songs here can be called commercial in my opinion.
 
But I'm sure Hackett and Squire will produce something more progressive. Hackett has indeed made some very good stuff lately - To Watch The Storms in particular Clap  + some excellent live DVDs.
 
Squire too has made good stuff recently with Conspiracy and The Syn.
 
Two of my favourite musicians working together, is something I must check out.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 09:54
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, since Hackett has turned away from trying to make commercial music, I'm guessing we won't get another GTR (the Hackett/Howe collaboration).
 
I wouldn't mind that actually, I like the GTR album very much! Shocked  I even think Hackett's much hated Cured album is quite nice. Only some of these songs here can be called commercial in my opinion.
 
But I'm sure Hackett and Squire will produce something more progressive. Hackett has indeed made some very good stuff lately - To Watch The Storms in particular Clap  + some excellent live DVDs.
 
Squire too has made good stuff recently with Conspiracy and The Syn.
 
Two of my favourite musicians working together, is something I must check out.

I didn't actually slam GTR.  I liked it at the time.  Still have the LP somewhere.  Haven't listened to it in years though, which goes to show it didn't make a positive enough impression for me to get on CD.  Also don't have hard feelings for Cured, which I did get on CD.  Saw him live at the Atlanta Agora touring for that one.  Dirt cheap tickets. Big smile


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 12:32
Hackett with Squire? Sounds promising. I just hope they won't ruin the whole thing for a reason or another.
If these two were ever thinking about a tour, I can't imagine the repertoire they would play...


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 13:37
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Hackett with Squire? Sounds promising. I just hope they won't ruin the whole thing for a reason or another.
If these two were ever thinking about a tour, I can't imagine the repertoire they would play...
 
Lots of Yes and Genesis classics of course Tongue


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 13:46

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

... I just hope they won't ruin the whole thing for a reason or another ...

I really don't think we should have unreasonable expectations about this. If the Hackett/Squire album ever sees the light of day it is not going to be as crossover between Selling England By The Pound and Close To The Edge. We know that already! It was that kind of expectations that made people so disapointed with project like GTR for example.

Give them some slack. They are two greats who hade found eath other and are obviously having fun together. Hopefully that will show in the music.

 



Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 13:51
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, since Hackett has turned away from trying to make commercial music, I'm guessing we won't get another GTR (the Hackett/Howe collaboration).
 
I wouldn't mind that actually, I like the GTR album very much! Shocked  I even think Hackett's much hated Cured album is quite nice. Only some of these songs here can be called commercial in my opinion.
 
But I'm sure Hackett and Squire will produce something more progressive. Hackett has indeed made some very good stuff lately - To Watch The Storms in particular Clap  + some excellent live DVDs.
 
Squire too has made good stuff recently with Conspiracy and The Syn.
 
Two of my favourite musicians working together, is something I must check out.

I didn't actually slam GTR.  I liked it at the time.  Still have the LP somewhere.  Haven't listened to it in years though, which goes to show it didn't make a positive enough impression for me to get on CD.  Also don't have hard feelings for Cured, which I did get on CD.  Saw him live at the Atlanta Agora touring for that one.  Dirt cheap tickets. Big smile
 
Cool! Than must have been in 1981 or something? The same year I was born.
 
I listen more to the live album by GTR called Roundabout than the studio album. Roundabout is played as well as I Know What I Like! Max Bacon sings Roundabout very well, I Know What I Like a bit less so.
 


Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 14:03
 Did I understand this correctly but are there not two works being produced? One being a Hackett "rock" album that features Squire simply  as a guest musician and the second being,the currently being discussed, Hackett/Squire album project? If so, I am more excited about the Hackett solo work then the joint effort.... Great to hear that Hackett will be surrounding himself with grade A talent , A.K.A. Squire on bass, and the ever great Simon Phillips on drums etc,, I have  always felt that the musicians that Hackett surrounded himself with as of late,  were not up to the same par as The Master. ( Especially on the keys.)  I'll be looking for it..

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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 14:07

Originally posted by JesusisLord JesusisLord wrote:

 Did I understand this correctly but are there not two works being produced? One being a Hackett "rock" album that features Squire simply  as a guest musician and the second being,the currently being discussed, Hackett/Squire album project? If so, I am more excited about the Hackett solo work then the joint effort.... Great to hear that Hackett will be surrounding himself with grade A talent , A.K.A. Squire on bass, and the ever great Simon Phillips on drums etc,, I have  always felt that the musicians that Hackett surrounded himself with as of late,  were not up to the same par as The Master. ( Especially on the keys.)  I'll be looking for it..

That is correct. There will be another solo Hackett rock album, and then (maybe) later a Hackett/Squire album. Like yourself, I'm more excited about Hackett's solo album, but the joint effort can be interesting too.

I don't agree with you on his current band though. I have never seen them live IRL, but the band he has behind him on the Somewhere In South America and Once Above A Time DVD's are incredibly good!!
 


Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 14:18
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

 

I don't agree with you on his current band though. I have never seen them live IRL, but the band he has behind him on the Somewhere In South America and Once Above A Time DVD's are incredibly good!!
 
 
 
Good true but great? Exciting? Standout? I don't think so.....Roger King I'm sure is an learned musician but He is no Wakeman or Moraz.... To be honest I find his performing a bit boring especially his solos... Gary O'Toole is his drummer and once again ,He his good , but Portnoy good? My point is, I find Hackett to be exciting, innovative and his rock material energetic and I want to see him surrounded by the same....


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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 14:31

Originally posted by JesusisLord JesusisLord wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:


 
I don't agree with you on his current band though. I have never seen them live IRL, but the band he has behind him on the Somewhere In South America and Once Above A Time DVD's are incredibly good!!  

 
 Good true but great? Exciting? Standout? I don't think so.....Roger King I'm sure is an learned musician but He is no Wakeman or Moraz.... To be honest I find his performing a bit boring especially his solos... Gary O'Toole is his drummer and once again ,He his good , but Portnoy good? My point is, I find Hackett to be exciting, innovative and his rock material energetic and I want to see him surrounded by the same....

I get your point, Roger King is indeed very laid back and not at all a flashy performer (though Tony Banks wasn't either). He is certainly no Wakeman or Moraz . And the rest of the band do not steel the show either. But they are after all a backing band for a solo artist and as such they are very good. Not flashy, but incredibly solid.

It was great when Hackett worked with Ian McDonald and John Wetton though, as seen on the Tokyo Tapes DVD.
 


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 14:58
I certainly prefer O'Toole's lead vocals to Squire's.


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 15:04
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

I certainly prefer O'Toole's lead vocals to Squire's.
 
He did sing Blood On The Rooftops very well indeed, quite similar to Collins. Have you heard him sing anywhere else too? Apart from this song on the Once Above A Time DVD.


Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 15:05
Tokyo Tapes is great !!! I love the song selection !! Genesis ,Crimson, Hackett and even the Asia sounded good!!! As concerning Hackett's current back up,   It is true what you say, they are the backing band, Hackett the conductor. Maybe He has no desire for a Portnoy or a Moraz in his orchestra even though i might.!!!..... Regardless, let us look forward to the new music from both Hackett and Mr. Rickenbacker.......

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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 15:21

Originally posted by JesusisLord JesusisLord wrote:

Tokyo Tapes is great !!! I love the song selection !! Genesis ,Crimson, Hackett and even the Asia sounded good!!! As concerning Hackett's current back up,   It is true what you say, they are the backing band, Hackett the conductor. Maybe He has no desire for a Portnoy or a Moraz in his orchestra even though i might.!!!..... Regardless, let us look forward to the new music from both Hackett and Mr. Rickenbacker.......

Indeed, Tokyo Tapes is excellent!! Contains the best version of Heat Of The Moment I ever heard. John Wetton can handle as kinds of material really.



Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 15:42
Since I seem to have your attention South Side, are you the one I should thank for all of the great Yes videos uploaded on Youtube? If so, let me say that the video ( speaking of Moraz) of Sound Chaser utterly blew what little mind I have left !!!! I vividly remember that tour, it being a definite hightlight of my young life. Yes, Relayer and opened up by Gentle Giant...Wow...,

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And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 15:54
Originally posted by JesusisLord JesusisLord wrote:

Since I seem to have your attention South Side, are you the one I should thank for all of the great Yes videos uploaded on Youtube? If so, let me say that the video ( speaking of Moraz) of Sound Chaser utterly blew what little mind I have left !!!! I vividly remember that tour, it being a definite hightlight of my young life. Yes, Relayer and opened up by Gentle Giant...Wow...,
 
Sounds like an amazing experience! I am not the one however, I have never uploaded anything on YouTube. Is there someone called SouthSideOfTheSky there?


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 16:47
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

I certainly prefer O'Toole's lead vocals to Squire's.

 

He did sing Blood On The Rooftops very well indeed, quite similar to Collins. Have you heard him sing anywhere else too? Apart from this song on the Once Above A Time DVD.


No, that's precisely the performance that impressed me too.


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 17:14
 
I was quite surprised that they played the whole Blood On The Rooftops. I was expecting only the acoustic intro that Hackett usually do. A pleasant surprise.


Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: January 31 2009 at 08:56

Just to say you can hear Squire and Hackett together on record already...mind you its on Chris Squires "Swiss Choir" Xmas album so it may not be to everyones taste. And Hacketts' not very noticeable! However does indicate - hopefully - that this project might happen. 



Posted By: FinnArild
Date Posted: January 31 2009 at 11:15
I'm looking very much forward to the next Hackett album, and if Hackett and Squire cook something together, I'm sure that will be very worth buying too!


Posted By: Joe Rockhead
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 14:01
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

 
The following statement is taken from Steve Hackett's official website http://www.stevehackett.com - www.stevehackett.com
 
"Steve is currently hard at work on lots of lovely new material for his next rock album. It's rumoured that the album will feature YES star Chris Squire on bass and vocals and Simon Phillips on drums and perhaps a few other surprise guests. In between times he's been putting in some time on a Hackett & Squire  album project."
 
Interesting indeed!
 
 


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J Rockhead


Posted By: Joe Rockhead
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 14:07
Chris Squires best days were with Bill Bruford. Why can't he work together again with Bill to show what a rhythm section should sound like. I also thought he was on tour with the Anderson-less Yes ???

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J Rockhead


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 14:52
Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 15:18
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.
 
I have always thought that this was the worst career move in history; to leave Yes a the hight of their power, right after Close To The Edge to join King Crimson who was rapidly disintegrating at the time after the awful Islands album Dead
 
I thought that Bill left Yes because he didn't want to "play in a band that sounds like The Beach Boys". LOL


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 15:41
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.
 
I have always thought that this was the worst career move in history; to leave Yes a the hight of their power, right after Close To The Edge to join King Crimson who was rapidly disintegrating at the time after the awful Islands album Dead
 
I thought that Bill left Yes because he didn't want to "play in a band that sounds like The Beach Boys". LOL


I still like Islands.  But look at what Crimson did after Bruford joined: Larks, Starless, Red.  If anything, Yes kept it together musically (I know that's controversial) with White and Crimson took a turn for the better.


Posted By: mothershabooboo
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 17:23
Yes....yes....and more yes!!


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 17:42
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.
 
I have always thought that this was the worst career move in history; to leave Yes a the hight of their power, right after Close To The Edge to join King Crimson who was rapidly disintegrating at the time after the awful Islands album Dead
 
I thought that Bill left Yes because he didn't want to "play in a band that sounds like The Beach Boys". LOL


I still like Islands.  But look at what Crimson did after Bruford joined: Larks, Starless, Red.  If anything, Yes kept it together musically (I know that's controversial) with White and Crimson took a turn for the better.


Totally agree! While Tales and Relayer, and even Drama are awesome records, Crimson progressed greatly.


Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 03:44
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.
 
I have always thought that this was the worst career move in history; to leave Yes a the hight of their power, right after Close To The Edge to join King Crimson who was rapidly disintegrating at the time after the awful Islands album Dead
 
I thought that Bill left Yes because he didn't want to "play in a band that sounds like The Beach Boys". LOL


I still like Islands.  But look at what Crimson did after Bruford joined: Larks, Starless, Red.  If anything, Yes kept it together musically (I know that's controversial) with White and Crimson took a turn for the better.
 
Personally, I'm not very fond of these albums either. I agree that they took a turn for the better when Bruford joined them, but how could they not after Islands Tongue 
 
IMO Crimson made only one great album and that was In The Court Of The Crimson King. Red is their second best one, but only the excellent song Starless comes close to the stuff from the debut. The other Crimson albums with Bruford I rate quite low! Lark's Toungues In Aspic I find extremely overrated Ouch
 
Yes, on the other hand, continued to make great albums throughout the whole 70's. I even praise Tormato Clap  Alan White is a great drummer too, even if not as distinctive as Bruford.
 
But these are only my opinions. Remember the original topic was Steve Hackett and Chris Squire.
 


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:12
Tormato gets no respect so I guess that whole tomato on the album cover art really fits.

Of course before some of you out there might consider Hackett/Squire an odd or interesting pairing consider this:

Peter Banks, electric and acoustic guitar, ARP, mini moog, Fender piano; Jan Akkerman, electric and acoustic guitar; with Ray Bennett, bass guitar; Phil Collins, drums; Steve Hackett, electric guitar; Mike Hough, drums; John Wetton, bass

Tracklist:
1.  Vision of the King — 1:25
2.  The White House Vale — 7:13
3.  Knights — 6:53
4.  Battles — 2:23
5.  Knights - Reprise — 2:13
6.  Last Eclipse — 2:28
7.  Beyond the Loneliest Sea — 3:04
8.  Stop That! — 13:41

total time 42:40

I do hope I'm not raising expectations unrealistically.




Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:25
 
Slarti, is this album worth seeking out? I have had it on my wishlist for years without actively searching for it.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:43
I can only tell you that I really like it.  I got a used copy of the LP many years ago.  There was an unremastered CD version that I missed out on.  I copied the LP to a CD at home.  If a remaster CD should surface, I'd get it for my collection.  Not for everyone I suppose, but seek out other opinions.

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Posted By: XunknownX
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:20
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, since Hackett has turned away from trying to make commercial music, I'm guessing we won't get another GTR (the Hackett/Howe collaboration).
 
Let's hope not, as it very well may be the worst prog project ever Dead


Posted By: XunknownX
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:28
Originally posted by SouthSideoftheSky SouthSideoftheSky wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Well, now that Bruford had retired, I guess he won't work with Squire. Moreover, ask yourself why Bruford left Yes to join King Crimson.
 
I have always thought that this was the worst career move in history; to leave Yes a the hight of their power, right after Close To The Edge to join King Crimson who was rapidly disintegrating at the time after the awful Islands album Dead
 
I thought that Bill left Yes because he didn't want to "play in a band that sounds like The Beach Boys". LOL
 
Wrong. Islands is the best KC album plus it was very good and brave choice Clap



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