Gabriel: 'Full Genesis reunion is still possible'
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Topic: Gabriel: 'Full Genesis reunion is still possible'
Posted By: mrcozdude
Subject: Gabriel: 'Full Genesis reunion is still possible'
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:33
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http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/07012009/364/gabriel-full-genesis-reunion-possible.html&e=l_news_dm - http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/07012009/364/gabriel-full-genesis-reunion-possible.html&e=l_news_dm
Not really official news,but i thought i'll deliver some hope to the prog world. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:35
I'm not the biggest Genesis fan, by a long shot, but get Hackett on board as well and I am definitely going to a show. |
mrcozdude wrote:Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:59
| Gabriel AND Hackett? Pfff, it would be too beautiful. |
Posted By: JulioSouth
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:59
Not holding my breath (but would love to see it happen)  ------------- "I'll be right there, I'll never leave; All I ask from you is Believe" |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 13:29
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Just seems so far between what he does and what genesis been doing last 20 years ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 13:50
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Yeah not really news on Feb. 3 last year an interview appeared in the Montréal French newspaper La Presse with Eric Mandel which I translated for a few members here and he said the same thing when querried about a " full out " Genesis reunion. Personally I don`t think it will ever happen. All he`s saying is that he`s not opposed to it. He`s way too busy and I can`t see Phil sitting behind the drum kit and keeping his mouth shut for 2 hours. Phil would be pleading pleeeeeeeeeese can we do Invisible Touch Please, please with sugar on top. Nahh. Ain`t gonna happen. ------------- |
Posted By: mpomy
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 16:43
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Wait, let me check to see if monkeys are flying out of my butt... Nope, not yet. Actually, Steve just mentioned that was still a possibility in a http://www.hackettsongs.com/interview.html - recent interview on his new website. ------------- 
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 17:07
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I wish they'd stop talking about it and pull the trigger on this thing. "Speculating" has gone on long enough. E ------------- 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 17:33
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This prospect is now driving me insane.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 17:41
Phil has stated on several occasions regarding this and has said he is perfectly comfortable to just sit behind the drums and let Pete sing.
The only one holding this up is Pete.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 17:41
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What a tease. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 22:59
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I would so fly anywhere in the united states if they decided to show up here.... (because they would never come to idiotic florida...)
But I don't think it will ever happen. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 07 2009 at 23:55
I have my passport ready........As usual, but don't believe this will happen.
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 00:13
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I wouldn't mind if they did a Floyd live 8.Just play one great gig and bugger off,but at least try to look a little happier then they did lol ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 00:52
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There was a documentary on BBC 4 a few days ago about genesis reunion tour in 2007 and Phil Collins said that in 2005 he and the other 71-75 line up met and discussed the idea that they would go on tour for 4 or 5 gigs performing the lamb lies down on Broadway in its entirety and then release it on DVD. Nothing seems to have come from that meeting but at least there thinking about it. |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 01:02
Have they ever done that before on a tour? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 01:07
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If they do tour, I will definitely pay to see them. I missed them on the 2007 tour.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 01:17
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I'd actually prefer to see Collins/Hackett/Banks/Rutherford, i.e. the Trick and Wind line-up.
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 01:29
They performed it back in 1975 but have only played a few songs from it since. |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:01
| I must say I'm with verslibre on this one. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:12
Agreed-would have to include Hackett. But, would he really get on stage with Banks ever again? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:22
If you've seen the film of the Rome gig, you'll see that you didn't miss much... bearing in mind this was an official Genesis release, they didn't exactly pull out the stops to play a great show & on the few occasions they played any pre-1980 material, it was played so slowly & (to be honest) so poorly, you got the impression Collins/Rutherford/Banks are either just fed up of the older stuff, or unable to do it justice any more. On the evidence of the Rome gig then, even if Gabriel/Hackett were to go for a full reunion, I'd be reticent about paying the ticket price until I'd seen some proof the gig would actually be worth seeing... and bear in mind this is from someone who would give his right dangler (and sell the rights on the other one) to have seen the classic line-up, and hate my brother-in-law for having seen them two nights running on the 'Selling England' tour These rumours have been on & off for so long though (to be honest, ever since they played the one off reunuion in 1983), I tend to bow to mpomy's wisdom:
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 10:40
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Well Jimmy boy I think that you hit the proverbial nail on the head there. They certainly didn`t pull out the stops. The Rome show is a very good "Exhibit A ". If you watch the whole thing you get the impression that they were only playing the older stuff because they had to satisfy grumpy old fans of the older material that were going to show up. I think theonly pre-1978 material that worked were Ripples ( and Phil even pops this one up at especially at the end)) and Los Endos because they had previously been played in large stadiums. The pre LLDOB material was mostly presented in more intimate venues and just won`t work in front of 80,000 people with the full theatrics. As I said on another thread when I saw them at the Olympic Stadium in Montréal in summer of `07 they looked like ants and the video on the big screen wasn`t in sync with the music from most parts of the stadium. Can you imagine what Gabriel would look like. He`d look like a gnat. The whole point of the theatrics would be lost. I`ve seen The Musical Box a couple of times at The Bell Centre ( where the Montréal Canadiens play ) and they always put them in the smaller theatre. Besides, I can`t see Peter Gabriel as a 59 year old man dressing up as Fruit of The Loom or a cross-dressing Fox. Finally, this just an observation from the Montréal show I attended. And I think the set list was very similar to the When In Rome DVD show. Whenever they played the older stuff I noticed that the younger people in the audience ( ie in their twenties ) were confused and sort of didn`t really know what was going on. But when they played a newer track from the eighties such as Home By The Sea they would go beserk. Just a first hand observation. I still say it no going to happen. The musical Box is doing Trick of The Tail. I MIGHT go and see that depending on how my arm is twisted. ------------- |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 11:15
Yeah, I just have this feeling that watching them try to pull off the old stuff would be analogous to going to "Old Timers Day" at the baseball field. You might be able to convince Mays and Aaron to come out for a few bucks, but nobodies hitting anything out of the park. To be honest, I would rather see some young, unspoiled performers do a Genesis tribute than see the codgers muck about overproduced renditions of their history. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 11:28
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I take your point on venue sizes for older material; however, in 1978 when they were still performing large chunks of the older albums, they were playing huge venues - they just changed the presentation - the songs themselves do work in large venues, it's just the intimate stage shows they used to play in the glory days would be completely lost in an enormodrome (which is where, face it, they'd have to play). The Milton Keynes reunion in 1983 was before an audience of (this is a guess btw) about 50/60,000; nothing post 1975 was played, yet they pulled it off because they adapted the show itself.
No - in my humble opinion & on the evidence of 'Seconds Out' & a recording I have of the 1978 Knebworth show (in front of over 100,000 people) the songs could work if (and unfortunately, this is a big if) they were played well, which on the evidence of the Rome film... 
Of course - the absolute ideal would be to see the re-unified Genesis in a small 2/3,000 seat theatre, but that's never going to happen so for a recreation of the glory days, I'll just wait for The Musical Box to come round again - great band, great musicians, perfect recreation of pre-1975 Genesis (even the Mellotron broke down briefly when I saw them - how authentic is that? ) -------------
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Posted By: Desoc
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:29
Canada is out of the question for... political reasons, or? |
Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 17:09
 Really? Nice. That oughtta be interesting.
When is this supposed to happen? I never got to see them before... kind of wish they would do another tour of Nursery Cryme or Selling England... 
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Posted By: pickupstyx91
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 17:40
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Hi, im new here! This is a pretty cool prog forum. I saw the musical box do the trick of tail tour last week in philly and it was awesome! Go if they come to your area. I got chills during suppers ready with all the fog and lasers and stuff. It was awesome. Check out themusicalbox.net to see a preview of the show and tour dates. Good stuff... |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 17:57
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This has to be one of the most tedious recurring threads ever!
Would anyone really want to see five grumpy old men trying to relive past glories!
It would be embarrasing!
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 18:23
I'm sorry  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 21:29
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Being an average Genesis fan, I must ask why Hackett couldn't stand playing with Banks again ? Was Banks the hatchet man ? ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 21:49
I'd be intrested to hear why as well,for some reason i always thought as Banks as the quiet one. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 08:57
Me too, did they not get along or what? I haven't heard anything about that. ------------- 
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Posted By: Einsetumadur
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 15:36
Exactly.  ------------- All in all each man in all men |
Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 18:34
Aw! I'm right near philly too! I'm gonna check out that site.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 19:24
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IF they did have a reunion and IF they came to Michigan and IF I was able to go I wouldn't miss it, but thats a lot of ifs. Being born in the MI, USA doesn't place you too close to many good prog bands, although the Trans-Siberian Orchestra always stops at the Van Andel arena. |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 21:20
Are you serious??? Steve thinks it's possible that monkeys might fly out of your butt?
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 10:32
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I doubt it will happen... then again, I would love to be wrong
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 10:00
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Possible as long as everyone is still alive. Desirable is another matter. Hackett and Gabriel are still making good new music on their own. While the other three...
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Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 10:59
I saw Steve Hackett perform as part of an acoustic trio alongside his brother and someone else. It was a really small venue (no more than 200 seats or so) so he talked with the audience for a bit between songs and at the end. He seemed like a really nice guy and when Genesis inevitably got brought up, he said he would reunite as long as Peter was also willing. |
Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 12:15
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In that Genesis When In Rome DVD Collins mention a project of recording The Lamb Live and the project is still in discusion, but Collins have retired from the music scene last year. Would be fantastic....But I remain skeptical. Guess they will make one appearence to be taped for DVD...
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Posted By: toño
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 14:35
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yeah....possible....I didn't know that Peter had had some trouble with money....remember WOMAD in 1982?
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Posted By: toño
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 14:37
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...carlos
..sera posible que Phil solo toque bateria sin cantar tan solo una cancion? ...ver apra creer!!!! toño |
Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 16:22
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It's possible toño...I saw his performance on drums in the last tour (not a proggy one), but his playing remains great...Again, they mentioned a performance of the whole lamb album, great idea...Hope it comes true soon..
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 12 2009 at 18:05
I have the WOMAD LP. Haven't heard it in years as I don't have the ability to play LPs anymore. And by the way, if I were in Rome, I'd seek out some good Italian prog rather than see the three old farts doing a reunion.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Daniel1974nl
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 03:30
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I Saw Genesis in Amsterdam....I waited for this day for 15 long years. I thought it was really fantastic.......but yes..some songs were played slower....and it didn't have much of the power that previous tours had. But it was as good as it could get I guess.
I am indeed also waiting for a reunion of all 5 members.....I think it would be nothing short of amazing just to see how it works out. But I dont expect to see the same glory / and shere of legend that it had baack in the 70's. The guys grew older and changed alot over the years.........They simply do not have the energy anymore to play the songs the way they did so back in the old days. I think in one way because they all got better....and in the other way cos they got simply got older.
Peter and Steve are perfectly fine with playing old stuff (Gabriel even seriously concidered to add Suppers Ready to the setlist of his last tour) and Gabriel is still playing quite a few Genesis songs on his tours (only check out whats passing bye on all his Archive cd's). I however think that the other 3 are not really interested cos it will lead them out of the spotlights and diverse them back to the 2 that were once the real stars of the band.
Besides I wonder if Steve will ever forgive Tony for call Daryl a better player stan Steve only because he can play so fast.....rediculous.......
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 07:16
Really? -------------
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Posted By: XunknownX
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 14:58
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Sooner or later it will happen, then all negativists ought to be refused to attend to any concerts. |
Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 17:21
No comments about that Rome quote... ...I respect all of these "FARTS" whatever they decided to do with their music and those were, pardon, still are great musicians....I love every era of Genesis (still hate Abacab  ) but all in all they're great.... .And by the way, I do prefer Gabriel era of course....  ------------- Democracy=A form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people...
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: January 13 2009 at 23:23
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the article also states that the last time he payed with them was in the 70s...this is not true, i believe they did a reunion concert back in...what was it..., '83? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Daniel1974nl
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 02:54
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First.....I meant Hackett ofcourse, not Gabriel.......Although Gabriel did in the beginning of his solo carrear.
Second......it was somewhere there yes.....In Milton Keynes, I believe it was...1982 see link :
http://www.genesismuseum.com/6otb.htm - http://www.genesismuseum.com/6otb.htm
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:35
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I'd totally starve for a month to see this - with or without Hackett, but with is obviously better. Even if they don't focus on The Lamb and earlier albums, just the prospect of seeing Gabriel with them makes me shiver in anticipation. If they DID focus on their prog stuff with a fully formed band, I'll start believing in ALL religions*.  *Not that I'm even close to being an atheist now, though. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 14 2009 at 13:50
Ditto to that NS. Like most prog fans, I either am or used to be a Genesis fan, and even though i don't listen to anything of theirs anymore, a full reunion would be something really quite special. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 12:45
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Hi,
I believe Steve Hackett has stated that he would go if Peter Gabriel also goes ...
Dream on ... sometimes the life of a pop star and ego maniacs ... is a real drag.
Thx
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Posted By: Dan_
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 07:49
Ha! I never read that! Pure stupidity though, Daryl's playing is competant but very normal, Steve Hackett is (at least to myself) on a higher pantheon of guitar gods! The big thing here that no-one seems to have bought up is that even if this did go ahead, could mere mortals like ourselves afford a ticket? |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 19 2009 at 13:23
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Hi, Got to admit .... if they bring Hackett and then Gabriel ... will they actually consider Anthony Phillips?
He deserves it too! ... folks should give a listen (and acquire) to The Geese and the Ghost ....
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Posted By: Daniel1974nl
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 06:07
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Amen to that.....The Geese And The Ghost...is indeed a album of great quallity.....And Wise After The Event Too.......and what a remaster...anyone fan of Genesis should indeed give this a firm try.
Its indeed interesting...why Anthony not...I think because he himself left...because he suffered from stage fear....so I think that playing in front of a large venue will not work for him, or perhaps they asume that....Don't know but its an interesting question......its a great guitarist......and it is the man behind Trespass and as I recently read..The Musical Box, which was already written mostly, before Hackett even joined, although it is not Hackett roaring guitarwork that makes this song mainly so amazing.
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: January 20 2009 at 10:15
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I don't think it'll happen. But even if it did.....quite honestly....i don't think Peter still holds his charisma from his Genesis days.It would be very strange to see he dressed as a flower today.Then again,it would be even stranger NOT to see him in his old costumes.As for Hackett,I'd bet he's still great.See classic Genesis again would surely be worth the ticket's price,but I think,today,I'd be more fond to see the Trick and Wind Genesis. |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: January 23 2009 at 18:10
Collins is a damn good drummer and there he should have remained.He is monotoned and quite simply boring as a singer.His voice cannot change and is weak.Genesis died after Wind and Wuthering with the truly awful ' And then there were three' thereafter good ol' Phil took them down the road to pop dom. Genesis with Gabriel were icons of the Progressive halcyon age.As I have said on here years ago Collins is a little arse who had a different dream of where he was going. What a pity such talented musicians as Banks and Rutheford wanted to join in. Peter if you ever read sites like this stay clear of these three clowns who turned their backs on the music that made them.Quality is what matters,whether younger Genesis fans prefer the drivel that followed merely tellls me their knowledge of prog is zero. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 10:05
Well well well..................... ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: riversyd
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 18:27
| Well..I was lucky enough to be at Milton keynes in 1982 and it was magical (I also remember Talk Talk being first on the bill and thinking they were really good while people at the front were throwing bottles at them!). After Pink Floyd at G8, I'll never say never, but It'll have to happen within the next five years ...I would walk over broken glass to be there... |
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 21:10
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Personally I think Peter Gabriel would be crazy to participate in a Genesis reunion. He's carved his own eclectic classy niche in prog rock and maybe because I grew up with Genesis I think he's outgrown that image. It would be embarrassing. Let that music remain classic by not trying to return to a place and time that they are not part of anymore.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 23:08
 if you just read Grumpy Old Rock Star by Rick Wakeman and you'll prbablyy only get about a third of them.------------- |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 24 2009 at 23:24
I don't know if you want to to know how many times the aircraft above went usevivicable then myelf and Rick ( as in Wakeman ) would be able to relate. Ask Rick about unservicibility Not me he would probabily be the expert stotyeller in that respect. ------------- |
Posted By: Geizao
Date Posted: January 28 2009 at 02:28
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Go for reunion? Ahh, it's so prospectus. Makes me breathe in wide air. I need them to make it soon. Well, soon as possible. |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: January 29 2009 at 18:27
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Jeeeeeeeeez no wonder I visit infrequently on here how many are on at the one time.Used to be when you made a post you got loads of feedback,now nada .Oh for the summer of 2004 when the 3 Fates and company were on. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 02:47
Not to mention wet
Will we ever see the like again? -------------
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Posted By: mkearney_913
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 22:54
| Not in this lifetime, unfortunately...VERY unfortunately. |