Collaborators Top Prog-Rock Albums 2008
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Topic: Collaborators Top Prog-Rock Albums 2008
Posted By: Ricochet
Subject: Collaborators Top Prog-Rock Albums 2008
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:33
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COLLABORATORS TOP PROG-ROCK ALBUMS 2008 Hello everyone. I'm honored to announce the results of the Collaborator's Top 2008. 72 PA Collaborators have voted (VIP Members, Prog Reviewers, Collaborators, Special Collaborators and Admins), a total of 145 albums having been nominated. The albums awarded first and second place won by a considerable distance, meanwhile the battle for third place was a nailbitter (I can tell you that from experience, having counted the results in real time); then onward, things were more tied.  1. Opeth - WatershedA popular, even if not fully aclaimed new Opeth release, Watershed ends up as 2008's Top Collaborator pick. Prog Reviewer Nightfly was one of the members who praised Watershed, so here's a quote from his review: "[...]although Opeth have released a number of excellent albums in the past, with Watershed they have hit a new peak with an album combining all their past elements and produced their most diverse release to date."  2. Il Bacio della Medusa - Discesa agl'inferi d'un giovane amanteIt should be mentioned that, unlike Opeth, Il Bacio di Medusa's second album was nominated the best album by our Collaborators more than any other album (but lost at points). Surprising, impressive work, but let's give the mike to Honorary Collaborator and Italian Prog Specialist Finnforest on this one: "You really get the whole package here: amazing composition, passionate performance, great melody, and tons of enthusiasm and spark. This is a band that pays homage to the greatest ‘70s Italian bands, English bands like Purple and Tull, and even flash the bluesy burn of Wicked Minds or Jack White."  3. The Tangent - Not As Good As The BookNo doubt, The Tangent treated their fans remarkably this year, with a release full of easter eggs besides the music, Not As Good As The Book ending up debated whether or not it's the band's best, and whether or not Tillison and his fellow musicians have outdone themselves this time. The following excerpt is from a review written by Special Collaborator King By-Tor: "[...]a must have album. It takes a bit for this album to grow on you, but after three or four spaced out listens you might find yourself coming back to it every single day needing more. 5 Soho Jazz clubs out of 5!"  4. Pendragon - PurePure is definitely one of the albums that received overwhelming marks from its fans and other listeners, but more importantly, the word "change" was on many people's lips. Symphonic & Neo Prog Specialist Iván Melgar Morey explains: "[...]they have not left behind their natural sound, they have sharpened it and mixed [...] a new and unexpected sound in the border that divides Neo, Symphonic and Heavy Prog."  5. Beardfish - Sleeping In Traffic: Part TwoSwedish in-form and in-vogue band Beardfish completed their two-part concept album "Sleeping in Traffic" in two consecutive years. Succesful in almost every way. If last year "Part One" earned a rather low spot (place 87!), this time "Part Two" received more than enough mentions from Collaborators, ending in the top 5 accordingly. Prog Reviewer Liquid Eternity describes it as "[...]the stronger, more creative, more unique album. The whole album is very strong and very individual. [...] For a young and not well-known band, this is a tremendous release and one that needs much more attention. Fans of just about any style of melodic music will find something to appreciate here." 6. Steven Wilson - Insurgentes "Overall an enjoyable, solid effort from STEVEN WILSON, which will keep legions of fans happy until the release of the next PORCUPINE TREE/STEVEN WILSON album." (valravennz, PA VIP member) 7. Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward "This is most emphatically not easy music to just dive into unless Avant Garde tends to be your bread and butter of music listening, but with time and patience you will find many strong melodies and quirks that create a memorable experience, and this is the hallmark of any truly great album..." (sleeper, Prog Metal Specialist) 8. The Mars Volta - The Bedlam In Goliath "With The Bedlam in Goliath, The Mars Volta have created a very fast-paced, aggressive yet both funky, melodic/memorable and powerful record..." (Moatilliatta, Prog Reviewer) 9. Cynic - Traced In Air "This album tells a story, the music intertwines and connects after a few listens. There is really no way for me to put this album down in any way. A perfect score is well deserved here." (ProgBagel, Prog Reviewer) 10. Meshuggah - obZen "...in the threshold of another brutal experience but with some changes." (The T, Prog Metal Specialist) "Back to the good old days, a return to the Chaos." (OpethGuitarist, Prog Reviewer) "Meshuggah at it´s best!" (el böthy, Prog Reviewer) Admins' Choices    Each of the 10 albums in the top were nominated #1 by at least one Collaborator. Here is, though, an impressive number of other #1 choices: Taylor Robin (Taylor's Universe) - Soundwall Every Other Fate - Phantom Fill The Skies Believe - Yesterday Is A Friend It Bites - The Tall Ships Marillion - Happiness Is The Road Followed By Ghosts - Dear Monsters, Be Patient Day Without Dawn - Understanding Consequences Birds And Buildings - Bantam Into Behemoth Ulysses - The Gift Of Tears Témpano - Selective Memory Penelli di Vermeer - La Primavera dei Sordi One Shot - Dark Shot Saena - Saena About Tess - Beautiful Sculptured - Embodiment Karmakanic - Who's The Boss In The Factory Virus - The Black Flux Cast - Originallis Canvas Solaris - The Atomized Dream Where's The Nine- Desensitized To Insanity Willowglass - Book Of Hours Henry Cow - Stockholm & Goteborg Astarte Syriaca - Darkened Light Van der Graaf Generator - Trisector Ayreon - 01011001 Fromuz - Overlook Lunatic Soul - Lunatic Soul Guapo - Elixirs Secret Chiefs 3/John Zorn - Xaphan - The Book of Angels-Vol.9 Soul Secret - Flowing Portraits Presto Ballet - The Lost Art Of Time Travel Protest The Hero - Fortress Uriah Heep - Wake The Sleeper Keith Emerson - Keith Emerson Band feat. Marc Bonilla Simon Says - Tardigrade A Silver Mt. Zion - 13 Blues For Thirteen Moons A top 100 due to be posted. Comments fully welcomed - surprised or content? unexpected or predictable? etc. (Admins, please sticky this for the time being...) ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:36
| All I know is I absolutely need to get my hands on that Il Bacio Della Medusa record. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:40
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Interesting results! You accidentally made a typo with Beardfish, by the way, mislabeling it Pendragon. ------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:40
| Great job! I'm looking forward to seeing the Top 100 |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:41
Right. I was copy-pasting the font and size...fixed. -------------
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:56
amazing work, Rico hoping to see KROBAK in Top-100   or like a special Admin choice? 
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 13:58
I figured. Good job on the list! -------------
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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:14
| It's a shame Birds & Buildings wasn't higher... *sigh* |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:16
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I'm surprised none of the Opeth fanboys have "Bree"ed on this thread. (Whatever that means) ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:21
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The thought of Opeth fanboys breeding is almost as scary as the sound of Akerfeldt's growls. ------------- 
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Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 14:52
AGREED!!! ...and the fact that Opeth is ranked #1 is absurd, imho. ------------- Greater is the man who conquers himself, than he who conquers a hundred times a hundred on the battlefield. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 15:03
Great job, and I regret that I had not heard enough albums to feel comfortable voting. Not my favourite Guapo album, but I had thought that Guapo's might make the top ten. Dark Shot and Birds and Buildings are very good. My favourite I've heard based on samples alone would be this:
2008 ../album.asp?id=20247 - At Work 4.00 (1 ratings) |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 15:07
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Great work, and an interesting top 10. I know one special collaborator who'll be extra glad over the album on place number two |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 15:32
Have you heard it?
Can't say I disagree, since it was my nº1 choice as well, but I did heard very few albums from this year and, for the sake of prog, I do hope there is better out there. I'm by no means an Opeth fan - I only heard Damnation and Blackwater Park before Watershed, both of which I though were rather average. But this latest album really clicked, reminding me more of other Swedish staples of modern prog (Anglagard and Anekdoten, especially) and some other prog greats (Gentle Giant, Gryphon, Uriah Heep) than of other metal groups out there. Not a masterpiece at all, but featuring some of the most beautiful music I'd heard in ages and occasional glimpses of prog brilliance.
I didn't add Il Bacio di Medusa's album to my list, as I've only recently came across it. I found it a bit hit-and-miss (a lot like Beardish, my greatest disapointment after all the positive reviews), but it's still growing on me - even though I don't think it will ever top Watershed on my list.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 15:51
Great job, Rico! 
Stickied!!!  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:06
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Interesting - perhaps 3 of the collaborators top 10 will make it into mine.
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Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/ |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:10
| Excellent work! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:18
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My guess was pretty far off, except for Beardfish and Pendragon in the top 10. Oh well. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:18
Only 1 made it into mine, but 2 others quite possibly could have if I had heard them. -------------
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:22
Thats a very interesting and varied Top 10! Hope another mix of opinions pop up next year as well! 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:27
awesome.... that is a great frickin album... up that high... because nearly all who listened to it.. had it in their first or second choices. Not number 1... .because not that many have listened to it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:36
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No Glass Shadows?? Collaborators, hang your heads in shame. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:43
| Pendragon is that high and Neal Morse doesn't even get mentioned, WTF. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:44
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Glad to see Traced In Air in the top ten. It really is a great album, very promising as well. I hope they release another one within the next two or three years as good as it.
------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 16:48
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Hell yeah. The top 2 are where it's at! Thanks to Rico & co. for putting this together ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 19:16
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What!?! Karmakanic doesn't even get in the top 10??? By far the best album I heard this year, head and shoulders above the rest......
------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 19:26
True. Opeth and Volta got huge bumps for being well known it seems, but overall I'd say that I'm rather satisfied with the list. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Doomcifer
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 20:03
Of course I have heard it. Many, many times in fact. My #1 so far, imo, would be Beardfish. ------------- Greater is the man who conquers himself, than he who conquers a hundred times a hundred on the battlefield. |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 20:09
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Hey, gotta love that mention for About Tess in there! ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 20:11
| Glad to see Beardfish getting some love as well as Fromuz. Really surprised Cynic wasn't higher. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 20:29
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Excellent work Rico!!!
Though i don't like at all to see that number one album
 A thousand clappies to Il Bacio Della Medusa anyways x1000------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 23:12
Now that you mention it, I am a bit surprised at that as well - very popular album this year. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 30 2008 at 23:36
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Great work Rico!
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 00:10
Seems like it was a late push at the end of the year and not many had the chance to listen to it....
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 00:16
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I was gonna vote, but then I couldn't decide which of the "Always the Bridesmaid" Decemberists singles to put in the top spot... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 00:48
| The Decemberists are coming up on my to buy list soon... |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 00:58
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Overall I'm surprised but not surprised.
All of the top 5 seem like some of the most popular releases this year (barring perhaps Il Bacio...), BUT I saw quite some negative "press" towards Watershed so I am surprised that it made #1, and by a far margin. Perhaps I should have voted for Il Bacio afterall
 As I said in the voting thread, 2008 was a bit of a disappointment overall. Nothing really struck me as over-the-top fantastic, and even my top one (which might be somewhat easy to spot in that list) would only recieve 4 stars from me here (maybe 4.5, but rounded down to be certain). The 09 thread looks interesting so heres hoping for tougher decisions in 09!  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 01:01
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Glad there's at least one album on that list I like (Kayo Dot)...
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Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 01:12
| I'm curious as to how many albums the collaborators on average have listened to? I try to refrain from making "x of the year" lists as the year ends because there are so many things I missed out on in that year and some things don't really seem to surface until a little later anyway. *shrug* |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 01:17
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The list is fantastic. Not surprised to see Opeth on the top spot. Great work guys!
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 01:35
Out of that original post of albums of this thread, I've listened to 21 of them.. and I've listened to 123 progressive albums released this year...
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 02:02
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 02:40
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TOP 100 1. Opeth - Watershed 2. Il Bacio della Medusa - Discesa agl'inferno d'un giovane amanti 3. The Tangent - Not As Good As The Book Pendragon - Pure (tied at points, true, but Tangent was voted #1 three times, Pendragon just two) 5. Beardfish - Sleeping In Traffic Part Two 6. Steven Wilson - Insurgentes 7. Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward The Mars Volta - The Bedlam In Goliath (tied at points, Kayo Dot voted #1 two times, MV just once) 9. Cynic - Traced In Air Meshuggah - obZen (same as above) 11. Marillion - Happiness Is The Road Birds And Buildings Bantam Into Behemoth 13. Guapo - Elixirs Van der Graaf Generator - Trisector 15. D.F.A. - 4th 16. Simon Says - Tardigrade 17. Ayreon - 01011001 18. Uriah Heep - Wake The Sleeper Frost* - Experiments In Mass Appeal 20. Presto Ballet - The Lost Art Of Time Travel 21. Karmakanic - Who's The Boss In The Factory Where's The Nine - Desensitized To Insanity Protest The Hero - Fortress 24. The Reasoning - Dark Angel ---- 25. Day Without Dawn - Understanding Consequences Henry Cow - Stockholm & Goteborg It Bites - The Tall Ships Willowglass - Book Of Hours Keith Emerson - Keith Emerson Band Feat. Marc Bonilla Fromuz - Overlook J'accuse..! - Abbandono del tempo e delle forme 32. Followed By Ghosts - Dear Monsters, Be Patient Tempano - Selective Memory Canvas Solaris - The Atomized Dream Asia - Phoenix 36 Lunatic Soul - Lunatic Soul A Silver Mt. Zion - 13 Blues For Thirteen Moons Neil Morse - Lifeline Coral Caves - Mitopoiesi Jannick Top - Infernal Machina 41 Saena - Saena Communic - Payment Of Existence Rational Diet - At Work Textures - Silhouette Caamora - She Metallica - Death Magnetic 47 Cast - Originallis Pennelli di Vermeer - La Primavera dei Sordi Soul Secret - Flowing Portrait Amaseffer - Slaves For Life The Neil Campbell Collective - Particle Theory Martin Orford - The Old Road Mostly Autumn - Glass Shadow 54 About Tess - Beautiful Astarte Syriaca - Darkened Light Believe - Yesterday Is A Friend Black Widow - Demons Of The Night Gather To See Black Widow Live Every Other Fate - Phantom Fill The Skies One Shot - Dark Shot Panzerballett - Starke Stücke Sculptured - Embodiment Secret Chiefs 3/John Zorn - Xaphan-Book Of Angels-Vol.9 Robin Taylor('s Universe) - Soundwall\ Ulysses - The Gift Of Tears Virus - The Black Flux Dominici - 03 A Trilogy Part 3 Edensong - The Fruit Fallen Ihashn - Angl Zero Hour - Dark Deceiver 70 Agalloch - The White Cartoon - Estribo Dark Suns - Grave Human Genuine Eksi Ekso - I'm Your b*****d Wings Enslaved - Vertebrae Gilmour, David - Live In Gdansk Gojira - The Way Of All Flesh Hostsonaten - Winterthrough Jupiter Society - First Contact/Last Warning King's X - XV Lunar Dunes - From Above Mercury Rev - Snowflake Midnight Neil On Impression - L'oceano deel onde che restano onde per sempre pg.Lost - It's Not Me, It's You! Everon - North The Pinneaple Thief - Tightly Unwound Stringpurée Band - Senni Eskelinen & Stringpurée Band No-Man - Schoolyard Ghosts 88. Art Cinema - Art Cinema Blackmore's Night - Secret Voyage Clear Frame - Clear Frame Eno/Byrne - Everything That Happens Will Happen Today Gregor Samsa - Rest Hands - Strangelet KiNo - Map Of The Universe The Gourishanar - Close Grip Lars Grimm - Parplar Mercury Rev - Strange Attractor Mouth Of The Architect - Quietly Rush - Snakes & Arrows Live Russian Circles - Station Sounds Of Animal Fighting - The Ocean And The Sun* Suspyre - When Time Fades* Talisma - Quelque Part* Univers Zero - Relaps* 3RDegree - Narrow-Casters* * #101-#105, but they're tied at points with the rest of the albums above That's all folks. Keep the comments flowing. See you next year! -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 02:43
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^Thanks for the list
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 04:22
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Superb job Rico!!
I I was wishing to be controvertial, I might bemoan the lack of (but not absence of) what I would consider to be tradtional style prog towards the top. Plenty of meat for discssion though!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:11
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Rico, is that the whole list? Where's The Wrong Object - Stories from the Shed? I voted for that in my top 5 and don't see it. Oh wait, it's top 100. No worries. A very surprising result... none of the albums I voted for were in the top 10. I did have Watershed in my top 5 but moved it to number 6 (so out of the votes). -------------   
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:46
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Only two albums in my personal top 10 2008 are also in the Collabs 10 2008, one of them surprisingly on the same spot (#8 - Mars Volta). (the other one is Tangent) -------------
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:50
Good job doing the list .. If the consensuses is 2008 was a happening year for prog I think I`m starting to lose interest in it , which is weird because I love all the other years still. Overall I found 2008 to be lacking.  |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:51
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Well Guapo and VdGG are the highest placed in my list. Neither were my top choice though.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:52
I thought it was a good year musically, actually.  -------------
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:54
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^^ No not for me .. I was disappointed in 2008 |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 06:58
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4 bands out of my Top-5 made it into the top 100, I wonder where the last one (Sonar) ended up. Chances are I'm the only PA member who owns that album, though.... 1. La Primavera dei Sordi - Pennelli di Vermeer (47) 2. The Fruit Fallen - Edensong (54) 3. Abbandono Del Tempo E Delle Forme - J'Accuse (31) 4. Celluloid - Sonar (??) 5. TriSector - Van Der Graaf Generator (13) As promotor of new and unsigned I'm happy to start over in 2009. After all, #1-#4 in my list were all debut albums, and they seem to have caught on here. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:08
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:23
Yes, and that is the problem with these sorts of lists. Unless everyone listens to all albums (or most) then the list is not really to be taken too seriously or to be treated with high reliance. More like a guildeline for the albums that made "noise" this year. My personal 5 would be Cast - Originalis Rational Diet - At Work Birds & Buildings - Bantham To Behemoth Cargo Cult Revival - Snakecharmer Fromuz - Ovrelook The rest of the list (which included at first 75 albums) now is made up of over 100 and it still growing (not all of them on PA, but most are progressive in nature). ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:30
Thanks Vic. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:45
The top was from the start based on every person's "preferences" - i.e. favorites. Perhaps we could emphasize more the "valorous" perspective - lowering that way half of the so-called "popular" names and works - that way a Collaborator being able to make the difference between, hypothetically speaking, having liked Opeth very much, but highlighting a rich progressive album by someone else. Otherwise though, if it's about listening to many albums and then making a choice worth being called "valid", we could only gather few Collaborators who do in fact listen to a lot of new albums during one year (let's say you, Olav, Uwe, Erik N., Angelo, me, Igor and others) and do our own "critical top of the year". -------------
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:47
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BTW, I just remembered that 2009's gonna be a worthless year for making a top, because Porcupine Tree will come up with something new, and the album will be automatically #1.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 07:52
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Not in my list it won't.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 08:17
Yes, unfortunately. But i am definitely looking forward to hear both albums that Phideaux is going to release in '09. if any of those is as good or even better than Doomsday Afternoon, it will be tough not to win the 1st place, even with PT. . . There is, however, the Steven Wilson solo album. Maybe he put way too good work there to make another "oh so great" PT album, but all we can do is wait. And i am kind of disappointed that Ayreon's release got so low. . .   -------------   
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 08:29
As you've already seen, your list is not enough to make a difference. ... -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 08:55
yeah, pretty much. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 10:07
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 10:25
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Interesting list. I'm a Watershed fanboy, and though I agree, I'm surprised. Even among metal albums I expected Cynic to rate higher. Didn't see Dark Suns even in the top 100.
I'm actually hopeful for 2009. Devin Townsend - Ki is my most anticipated. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 10:41
Yeah, same here. There were a few that I thought I would enjoy a good bit but they let me down, and then there just weren't enough releases that have that "staying presence" of a great album, IMO. ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 10:56
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How do you guys find time to listen to 100 albums in one year?? It's amazing. ------------- https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024 |
Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 11:03
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Excellent work Rico
I'm glad to see three of my choices are in the top fifteen.
I knew of course that ''Black Widow'' had no chance but at least it got a mention. I hope that '09 will sound better than '08 which was not the greatest musical year of all to be honest.
Take care my prog friends.
Daniel. ------------- ZowieZiggy |
Posted By: Shadowavenger
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 11:46
Yeah, good question! This poll might be fixed! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Shadowavenger/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: SFranke
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 12:47
This is a joke that works on many levels. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 12:56
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Just a bit of shameless promotion: If this list has you excited, check out the 2009 edition of the Ultimate PA Album List where you choose your favorite albums of all time and they're all compiled in to one list. Voting ends January 17th. Check it out! http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=54107&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=54107&PN=1 ------------- <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 13:04
Ok... IM removed, at first I fixed the typo, but since it's just a compilation, I've taken it out of the top entirely. -------------
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Posted By: Trademark
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:27
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" I just remembered that 2009's gonna be a worthless year for making a top, because Porcupine Tree will come up with something new, and the album will be automatically #1." As if the same weren't true for Opeth in 2008. it was decided the day the release was announced, truly sad. #1 & 6-10 are unlistenable.  #2 I haven't heard but am curious about.  #4, & 5 are decent, solid 4 star stuff. Only The Tangent would have made my top ten for the year.  We migfht as well just change the name to Prog Metal Archives and get it over with.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:31
Wouldn't know about that. I was personally surprised to see different Collaborators, with different tastes, acknowledging Opeth. Cynic & Meshuggah, on the other hand, were mostly chosen by Metal fans & team members. About my remark, don't forget that I added an emoticon at the end of the phrase. Sure, it will surely happen the way I predicted it, but I still said it out of humor. Edit: and what's wrong with Prog Metal albums? -------------
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:33
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I believe it was The T who really didn't want to see Opeth at the top. Who cares if metal is at the top, it's where prog is these days. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:40
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Nah, prog is a smorgasbord of many genres, not just metal. In my mind, prog is more about the avant side of things, rather than Metal. However because of the nature of the avant-prog scene and the fact many people think it's something it's not, then the more popular prog-metal albums will get the votes. I was surprised Opeth won though. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:47
Kayo Dot and Mars Volta aren't metal...And they're only unlistenable if you have boring taste. :P
If Opeth were as foregone as Porcupine Tree, then why has everyone else been surprised? It got trashed by Certified, T, and p0mt3, and most of the other collabs who reviewed it gave it mediocre reviews.
Unless the new PT is something very different from what I'm expecting, I will be very happy if it doesn't win. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 15:49
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I gave Opeth a "blah" review I thrashed Kayo Dot I kind of hope PT doesn't win, but they keep making very good records. Although Doomsday Afternoon should have won over FOABP in '07 imo |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 16:07
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Great work Rico and applause for all the Collabs. I was thrilled to see David do well in the sea of Goliaths, and the kids in BDM really, really deserved the nod. They're such nice people and they made a great freakin' record. For Rico and for BDM ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 16:58
Great Work Rico! None of my picks made the top ten but such is life. 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 17:19
Then i have a boring taste  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 19:38
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Opeth is my favorite band and Watershed is really fantastic but I don't think it was my favorite album this year. Still congrats to them! I really, really loved the album when it first came out but it doesn't have much play back value TBH. Also I think it's pretty disjointed and doesn't flow well as an album. I'll find myself only listening to Burden, or only listening to The Lotus Eater, etc. There are some great songs but when you put them together it doesn't really work.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 21:12
I hear that Rolling Stone is preparing an article making fun of our top 100 choices. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 21:23
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that would be awesome.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 21:25
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Rolling Stone ought to be preparing an article on why no one reads their magazine anymore.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 21:27
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We should prepare an article as to why nobody reads Rolling Stone anymore
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 23:56
What's Rolling Stone   ------------- "Without prog, life would be a mistake." ...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 06:37
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It's a band from the 60's, right?
Shouldn't the winner have that golden banner in the album page already? Or is everyone having second thoughts? ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 07:14
If M@X disagrees with the results, the top was made in vain. -------------
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:03
Looks like someone needs to listen something else than the prog clichés . . .
Couldn't agree more, specially regarding that first sentence. In fact i am very surprised with the fact that TMV latest album have so many negative reviews, but again proggers are a strange kind: they like the edgy 70's sound, but whine when a band brings new things to the table because they "don't want so strange things" (and yet they listen to progressive rock) and they whine when a band emulate the 70's because they are not bringing anything new to the table. The fan itself don't like progressive rock nor progressive music, he only likes Yes or Genesis and God knows what will happen if he likes both. The fan likes the senseless noises that are Henry Cow's, Magma's and Zappa's music, but can't listen to five seconds of The Mars Volta because there is "too much noise". The fan likes the heavy distorted guitars and bass that King Crimson uses in Red but hates anything labeled "progressive metal" as if Pain of Salvation, Atheist and Kayo Dot were the same thing. The fan likes the endless repetition of the same thing overandoverandoveroverandoverandover that is Krautrock or electronic prog, but they think a new band is not being original if they play the song there more than 3 times in a 40 minute song. The fan hates growling vocals, but thinks that every male/female vocalist with a clean vocal from any new band sound exactly like X 70's vocalist and, therefore, the new band is an useless piece of garbage. No surprise the prog rock scene is always in the brink of disappearing and the prog bands are searching for the metal, indie, pop-rock, new age, etc audience instead of the prog rock audience: the prog rock fan suck big floppy donkey d**ks because they don't want anything sounding new or old, they just want to listen the same old songs over and over again and that's it. IMO, people should stop listening to the bands and start listening to prog rock and then maybe "new" prog genres, like the 20-year-old progressive metal or the 15-year-old post-rock, and stop thrashing then, maybe the bands from those genres could be more interested in the prog-rock fan than in the metal or indie fan. People need to remember that different is not the same as worse. -------------
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:27
I guess you haven't heard Insurgentes then. Prog Metal it isnt. As for the rest, that's Democracy for you baby! |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:27
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Nice job Rico, BTW.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:31
hahahhahaha... nice one bro! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:32
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might throw CR magazine in that... anyone see their top albums of 2008?
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:51
True. Its not possible to think of Blue Lambency... as unlistenable metal. Not if you're heard it (which I doubt Trademark has). ...But this yearlist should be made in some other way than collecting a few top five lists from the collabs that remembers to send their list in time. A mediocre release like Watershed only wins because its the most well known. Even Opeth fans wouldn't rate it among their five best. Does anybody actually think 2008's number one is even close to deserve it? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 09:52
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 11:53
I do. I really liked Watershed and, though it was not my choice as the best album of '08, i think the album is a worthy number 1. From all the albums that made it to the top 10, i think the only ones that could be the 1st, IMO, were Watershed and Not as God as in the Book and those were, respectively, my 3rd and 4th choices, but i didn't listened Pendragon's Pure, though i'm looking forward to check it now (i only like 1 Neo band, that being Marillion and only during the Fish years, but why not? I may found another neo band i like). -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 14:09
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Damn, I always forget about voting hahahaha... Good list, good albums this year! Although personally I would have liked to see Kayo Dot higher... make it number 1 higher . A 5 star review is coming up------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 14:32
| Although I didn't vote because I feel that I have not heard enough 2008 albums to make reasonably informed choices, and know that the results of such "contests" don't reflect my tastes well, I am rather disappointed that chamber rock didn't fare better this year since there were quite a few great chamber releases. |
Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 19:08
| Add this to your list-The Sale by Crack The Sky. |
Posted By: laztraz
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 19:10
| Oh, and I actually do read Rolling Stone. And I'm 49. I'm not just a prog fan though. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 21:36
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Great work Rico!
I at least absolutely disagree with the top album of the year... The worst Opeth release since... well.. since I've been hearing them (I haven't heard their first three albums, I have all the rest starting with Still Life.) As much of a prog-metal fan as i am I can't help but feel like our genre has won due to popularity... The same as PT last year.... As much as I HATE Kayo Dot's "Dowsing Anemone", I have to give it to that album: it achieved quite a feat of winning the Top 2006, the band being 1% as popular as PT or Opeth.... (and that year Opeth HAD a real album of the year contender)...
My choice was a symphnic rock one (listed here as eclectic actually)... THE TANGENT's... I even included KAyo Dot's in my list... Actually, for PROG-METAL it was quite a weak year in the "famous" stuff... The real good stuff was the not-so-famous ones (Enslaved for example...) I haven't heard CYNIC yet (it's waiting in my "to-listen" shelf).
Well, next year PT, then next year Opeth again.... then it's PT again... And people still think DT is the real "popular boy" here in PA... ------------- 
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