Zeppelin is on a Rush...
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Topic: Zeppelin is on a Rush...
Posted By: The Quiet One
Subject: Zeppelin is on a Rush...
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:25
Both released the same year, and they're one of their finest songs envolved in the Heavy Prog scene. As you may know Zep also went quite proggy through the years, maybe not as Rush, but they did have a progression, checking Houses of the Holy's No Quarter, Physical Graffitti's mellotron use, Presence's Achilles Last Stand. Of course, also IV's Stairway to Heaven or When the Levee Breaks....
Which one do you prefer?
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:33
Not really a good comparison - 2112 is a side-long epic 100% prog, while Achilles Last Stand is only an extended simple song. Knowing this is a prog site the result of the poll is obvious.
However my vote goes for Achilles Last Stand - for its mature song-writing and technical proficiency, its intensity and all those passionate live versions.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:35
^I think it's a great comparison, even if the results are obvious. It's when both bands became to the maturity to write some heavy stuff with prog leanings. Of course, Caress of Steel had already 2 epics, but I wanted to make it more interesting, at least for me.
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Posted By: Lota
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:44
Achilles Last Stand, Greatest Zep song
Hard to campare, 2112 excellent prog song while achilles pure hard Rock
Great songs though
------------- And In The End, The Love You Take, Is Equal To The Love You Make
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:54
Achilles Last Stand. It's more epic despite being 10 minutes shorter. And don't you mean " which SONG do you prefer"? If not, then you mean the album "Presence", don't you? The 2112 album is overall better than Presence, but the song "Achilles Last Stand" is better than the song "2112".
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 13:03
Abstrakt wrote:
Achilles Last Stand. It's more epic despite being 10 minutes shorter. And don't you mean " which SONG do you prefer"? If not, then you mean the album "Presence", don't you? The 2112 album is overall better than Presence, but the song "Achilles Last Stand" is better than the song "2112".
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Oh yeah, my wrong, going to correct it. Thx!
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 13:20
2112 is an amazing ride for me,even after all these years.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 13:26
sinkadotentree wrote:
2112 is an amazing ride for me,even after all these years. |
As much as Achiles is probably my 2nd favorite Zep song, the 'dotentree is right, 2112 is still an amazing flight (through space)
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 13:31
No comparison, give me 2112 any day.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 13:32
^yep with the destroyer and death star and all.
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Posted By: Frippertron
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 14:16
Errmmm.. Bit of a strange poll this one.. Also very random, I will go for ABBAS Waterloo
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 14:18
Frippertron wrote:
Errmmm.. Bit of a strange poll this one.. Also very random, I will go for ABBAS Waterloo |
wise choice
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 16:11
As much as I love Zeppelin I had to vote for Rush this time. Achilles last stand is great but not as much as 2112 in my opinion. The only criticism I would do to 2112 is Geddy's voice wich gets annoying at some points, although I got used to it by now, but I still prefer his later voice. Even thoug Plant sings very high too, his voice rarely gets annoying.
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In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 16:19
has someone been playing with their Neil Peart wind-up today... lost count on all the Rush polls I've seen today.
hard to vote... both are popular.. but both still suck in comparison to earlier works....
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 16:21
"2112" in my opinion is one of the Rush tracks I truly enjoy, containing the use of reocurring themes and interesting lyrics based on one of my favorite books. "Achilles Last Stand" was a dissapointment to me, because I assumed because it was a long song it must have been good, but it didn't prove to be much more than a long song.
I don't expect Achilles to stand a chance.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:20
micky wrote:
has someone been playing with their Neil Peart wind-up today... lost count on all the Rush polls I've seen today.
hard to vote... both are popular.. but both still suck in comparison to earlier works....
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D'you think 2112 suck in comparision to earlier works??? In my opinion that's were Rush music truly starts to stand out.
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In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made...
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:24
I know my choice will surprise many, but - even though I love Rush - I've never been a big fan of "2112". Therefore, I voted for "Achilles' Last Stand", one of my favourite Zep songs ever. Presence, in my opinion, is a very underrated album, featuring some real gems.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 19:10
I'll vote Zep, but Presence in its time was a huge disappointment for me. I had hoped for better from them, but it was not to be.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 22:29
I love Achilles Last Stand, but c'mon now, 2112 just pwns it.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 22:29
micky wrote:
hard to vote... both are popular.. but both still suck in comparison to earlier works....
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 10:43
NaturalScience wrote:
micky wrote:
hard to vote... both are popular.. but both still suck in comparison to earlier works....
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You read my mind.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 10:50
Raff wrote:
I know my choice will surprise many, but - even though I love Rush - I've never been a big fan of "2112". Therefore, I voted for "Achilles' Last Stand", one of my favourite Zep songs ever. Presence, in my opinion, is a very underrated album, featuring some real gems.
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It can't be Page's and Plant's favourite Zepp album with no reason...
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 12:46
Swan Song wrote:
Raff wrote:
I know my choice will surprise many, but - even though I love Rush - I've never been a big fan of "2112". Therefore, I voted for "Achilles' Last Stand", one of my favourite Zep songs ever. Presence, in my opinion, is a very underrated album, featuring some real gems.
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It can't be Page's and Plant's favourite Zepp album with no reason...
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is it their favourite album? I think it's easily their weakest, except for Achilles and Nobody's fault but mine, the other songs don't do much for me. I even prefer In through the out door.
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In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made...
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 21 2008 at 12:51
^I consider Presence to be different, I divide Zep in 2 eras(or maybe 3). The 1st era has Zep's I, II and III, which this is my fave era, with a more heavy blues oriented. While the 2nd era starts to develop in a more hard rock sound, which from Zep's isn't my fave.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 11:10
I only really like very early Led Zeppelin. Don't really go for any later stuff at all.
I love most of Rush.
2112 is one of my favourite Rush albums, and the title track is absolutely outstanding.
No surprise then that Rush win by several parsecs.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 11:17
Interesting the results, even if Rush is wining by a good margin, still Zep has received 13 votes.
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 11:35
Both songs are memorable to me, i like much the first part of 2112, but the last part not much.
Achilles for me, great fond memories of that song.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 14:51
SgtPepper67 wrote:
Swan Song wrote:
Raff wrote:
I know my choice will surprise many, but - even though I love Rush - I've never been a big fan of "2112". Therefore, I voted for "Achilles' Last Stand", one of my favourite Zep songs ever. Presence, in my opinion, is a very underrated album, featuring some real gems.
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It can't be Page's and Plant's favourite Zepp album with no reason...
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is it their favourite album? I think it's easily their weakest, except for Achilles and Nobody's fault but mine, the other songs don't do much for me. I even prefer In through the out door.
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well the songs might not do much for you - but they were really fond of those fun stuff. and also that's the album showing them at their best regarding playing & singing abilities.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 17:14
Wow! 18-22!! That is close!
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