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Topic: Zappa: Part 2 "the 70s"
Posted By: manofmystery
Subject: Zappa: Part 2 "the 70s"
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 11:37
Ok, the basic idea here is to identify the greatest Zappa album from each decade then to take the winners and pit them against each other in a final mind boggling, mustache twirling battle royal.  Each poll will include both studio and live releases and there will be five polls: "the 60s", "the 70s", "the 80s", "the 90s (including posthumous)", and "the 2000s (all posthumous)".  Any excuse for more Zappa in the forums, I say! Hot Rats takes "the 60s"  by 4 votes over We're Only In It For The Money, which fought the good fight.  This week it is up to you to decide "the 70s", a lot of meat here, dig in.  You will be granted a weeks worth of time to decide.
 
Results:
"the 60s": Hot Rats (1969)


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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 11:40
Shouldn't Joe's Garage just be one option, since it's all one album? If so, I'd go for that, despite the hard decision.


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Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 11:47
Roxy and Elsewhere - The Greatest Live album ever - IMO


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 12:12
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Shouldn't Joe's Garage just be one option, since it's all one album? If so, I'd go for that, despite the hard decision.
 
correction made
so don't vote for the blank option, wasn't his best work


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 12:14
I have always liked "Overnite.." 


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 12:23
I think you should have divided the 70's into 2 polls. There are LOTS of classics. Though my favorite is definitely Roxy & Elsewhere.

#1 Roxy & Elsewhere
#2 Zappa in New York
#3 Grand Wazoo
#4 Over-nite Sensation
#5 Zoot Allures
#6 Waka/Jawaka
#7 One Size Fits All
#8 Apostrophe and Joe's Garage
#9 Studio Tan (the only track I listen to is RDNZL, but it's AWESOME)
#10 Sheik Yerbouti

I haven't heard Chunga's Revenge in it's entirety neither Sleep Dirt or Bongo's Fury.


Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 13:00
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Shouldn't Joe's Garage just be one option, since it's all one album? If so, I'd go for that, despite the hard decision.
 
correction made
so don't vote for the blank option, wasn't his best work


Awesome. Thanks. Thumbs Up

This was a really tough one though!


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 13:04
watch out where the huskies go.. don't you eat that yellow snow..

oh yeah.. .and this gem.. that is a BAD ass bass solo hahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6vl49r67I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6vl49r67I


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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 13:05
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

watch out where the huskies go.. don't you eat that yellow snow..

oh yeah.. .and this gem.. that is a BAD ass bass solo hahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6vl49r67I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6vl49r67I


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Posted By: meptune
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 13:21
Man this is tough, I love all of these albums. They all have gems but I have to say that I think One Size Fits All is the most consistently amazing from start to finish. Not a single weak track. Arf, she said.

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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 14:05
There's something magical about One Size Fits All... my favourite Zappa album for sure.


Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 14:19
One Size Fits All just barely nudges Roxy out of the number one slot, but my goodness if those two don't make an incredible combo...

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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 14:57

One Size Fits All.  Best FZ album ever for me.  The '70s were a very good decade for FZ.  The Flo & Eddie years are the low point, but even those albums have some great music on them.   



Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 15:04
Poll question needs to be correctedTongue

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 15:04
But I still vote for One Size Fits All.
 
My favorite Zappa album.


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 16:44
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Poll question needs to be correctedTongue
 
happily, i made enough errors to correct the problem easily


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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 16:46
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

One Size Fits All.  Best FZ album ever for me.  The '70s were a very good decade for FZ.  The Flo & Eddie years are the low point, but even those albums have some great music on them.   



That is true.

Despite how good One Size Fits All is, Joe's Garage just has something extra which makes it my favorite Zappa album ever (besides Hot Rats). The mix of sheer emotional content, the perfect balance between humor and a deeply-hidden serious message, the instrumentation... it all hits a paramount on that album in a way that is just mind-blowing.


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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 16:49
Not easy at all. This is my favourite Zappa decade. ONE SIZE is undoubtedly his most all-encompassing SYMPHONIC ROCK masterpiece. I love the bright sound of WAZOO, and IN N.Y. always puts me in a good mood. SHEIK YERBOUTI was probably the first Zappa album I really enjoyed. But when all is said and done, they're all beaten by ROXY AND ELSEWHERE, probably the most glorious, the most exciting and versatile live album on the entire Prog Archives! You thought YESSONGS, SECONDS OUT or BURSTING OUT were multi-coloured, virtuosic extravaganzas? Think again.


Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 14 2008 at 19:28
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

One Size Fits All.  Best FZ album ever for me.  The '70s were a very good decade for FZ.  The Flo & Eddie years are the low point, but even those albums have some great music on them.   



That is true.

Despite how good One Size Fits All is, Joe's Garage just has something extra which makes it my favorite Zappa album ever (besides Hot Rats). The mix of sheer emotional content, the perfect balance between humor and a deeply-hidden serious message, the instrumentation... it all hits a paramount on that album in a way that is just mind-blowing.
 
I find Joe's lacking something.   Not that it's a bad album -- quite the contrary -- but the whole Central Scrutinizer conceit to hold it all together is kinda lame to these ears.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 07:23
^I agree and disagree. I like to hear the Central scrutinizer speeches humorous as well as a guide to the concept, even if they're quite spooky or annoying. Of course as a album to listen just to the music and not the lyrics/concept then I agree. But when you want to listen to the whole story as The Wall or Tommy, etc, etc, then it doesn't mind. At least for me.


Posted By: DatM
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 11:26
I'm gonna go with Zappa in NY...i love everything about that album.  And it's got the Black Page.  TWICE!

But it's really a tie between that one, Sheik, and Apostrophe. 

I know One Size Fits All is a popular one, but there are a few songs on there that I don't really care for.


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 12:07
it surprises me that there is such a clear trend towards One SIze and Roxy

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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 12:08
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

it surprises me that there is such a clear trend towards One SIze and Roxy


Yeah, same here. I was thinking especially Grand Wazoo would get some more votes.


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 12:18
The 60's one was fair easier to decide,i really don't think i can make a choice.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 15 2008 at 13:33
I'm gonna have to sheik my bouti on this one. Tongue

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 22:04
only two full voting days left, so vote now or forever hold your peace

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Posted By: Abrawang
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 22:13
I'm surprised that Overnite Sensation isn't getting more support.  Camarillo Brillo, Dina-Moe Hum and Moving to Montana are classics. 

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 07:51
I´m the first to vote for Studio tan...mmm, that album needs more love. 

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Posted By: DatM
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 08:27
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I´m the first to vote for Studio tan...mmm, that album needs more love. 


I almost voted for that one, but only bacuse it has Greggary Peccary Smile


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 08:37
^I still can't get into that one. The only song I listen from that album is RDNZL


Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 08:38
I went for waka/jawaka just cuz i can.

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Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 19:22
Wazoo for me...I always liked his fusion albums

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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 19:38
So many great albums , I am kinda biased to vote for Roxy & Elsewhere since it's the only Zappa album I could get , plus it's a great live release.
But Waka Jawaka it's too much , that brass section gives a distinct sound.


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 02:06
I voted for Apostrophe.  It's hard to pass over Zappa in New York,  Sheik Yerbouti, Joe's Garage, and  One Size Fits All, but there's something about Apostrophe that really connects with me.


Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 02:13
I thought Joe's Garage was perfectly realized. . .especially Act 1. Saw the tour, too, which clinched this one for me.Thumbs Up


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 14:03

Yeah the first act of Joe's Garage is really together conceptually.   Something gets lost after "Lucille Has Messed My Mind Up."



Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 20 2008 at 23:23
Pencils down time again boys a girls.  As the sun sets on the second Zappa decade we have learned that a majority of progarchive poll voters feel that One Size Fits All was the strongest FZ release of the 1970s.  It will move on and join Hot Rats in the finals.  To all of you who voted in this weeks poll I thank you and hope to see you again in the 1980s.

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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: December 22 2008 at 21:54
Give me, your dirty love, the poodle bites, c'mon Frenchie
Moving to Montana soon, Yippy AyeOh
Dinah-Moe hum, how bout you Fauna, ya wanna?
Camarillo Brillo??????
I am the Slime oozing from your TV set.
 
And the beat goes on...........RIP Franco


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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 15:44
Not a speck of cereal!


Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 21:33
Incidentally, Sleep Dirt gets way less attention than it does. I'm considering bumping my current review of it up a star. It's quite possibly one of Frank's strongest.

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