Any smokers in the forum?
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Topic: Any smokers in the forum?
Posted By: The Pessimist
Subject: Any smokers in the forum?
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:48
Simple really. I smoke lightly, around 3 or 4 a day, but at parties I smoke like a chimney. Have never really counted on those occasions  too drunk 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:49
| Don't smoke now. Had a brief fling with it in college, but mostly cigars and a hookah, and very rarely at that. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:52
 That's light?
 I think this poll has been done before, but I smoke about a pack a day, if I'm not drinking, and about 2 packs when I am drinking. So about 2 packs every day.  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
kibble_alex wrote:Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:53
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no I don't think I've even ever touched one ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:56
 We're hardcore over where i come from mate  I think you all know what i mean though, no need to point out my obvious mistake ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 16:59
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Never touched one, don't plan on it either. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 17:11
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The only times I have ever smoked tobacco are from hookahs and once mixed with marijuana (not my idea).
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 17:13
What he said. Although in highschool I used to have friends who would riffle through the ashtrays outside of 7-11 to find anything that still had a mm of unused tobacco in it... a sad sight. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 17:39
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I enjoy anywhere from two to eight cigars a year, and maybe a pipe once in a blue moon if I'm not feeling lazy. Change "pack" to "six-pack" in the original post and you'd have me pegged. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 17:39
Oh, except I don't smoke the beers. I drink them. 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 18:30
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I don't smoke anymore.
I used to smoke lightly though, some cigars from time to time and a few cigarettes, in my student days.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 18:38
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I just stopped recently (after a six month a pack a day relapse) due to anxiety problems. Two weeks and going..... ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 18:40
Good luck  I don't know if i could go that long... I'd probably hurt someone eventually ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 19:11
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 19:26
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Nope. Not my thing. E ------------- 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 05 2008 at 19:30
| Only on parties, though already a year and a half, I do have a certain cough, so I'm trying to stop, just 1 or 2 per party, but just can't. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 00:53
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Never. ------------- |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 01:21
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I smoked in my 20's. now I think smokers are the scourge of the planet. Only way I could quit was to look down on the activity. Now I have cancer patients. Its an ugly way to die. And contrary to popular belief, it doesn't just occur to the old. I've had plenty in their 30's and 40's. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 01:29
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Nope, I've tried a cigar once and that was it. I never plan to start either.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 01:55
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0 to 3 a day on average really. At parties, maybe up to 30 in a night. I've also smoked the "other option", but I wont condone that here since that's against site rules and regulations. Hell, I even managed to sell some of my cigarettes for more than I bought them for last weekend, which is a good reason to have some on you Yes, it does feel good, but I figure it's a lot better in moderation as I use them anyway. Fortunately I can quit when I need to if I get a cold for eg and never really get bad urges since I'm not heavily addicted anyway. If I ever start getting singing lessons, I'll ditch them entirely. Eh, I drink in moderation, smoke in moderation, but I also work out now and then, jog/go for fairly long walks fairly regularly, skateboard now and then and eat reasonably well, and I'm probably healthier than a non smoker that does no exercise at all anyway. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 02:33
Sounds like my situation. I quit in February 2007, and started again a year later for reasons only a good psychiatrist could fathom. At the moment I'm smoking around 10 a day if I dont drink, around 20 if I do. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 02:42
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I generally hate cigarettes. I like a cigar every blue moon.... Hookah about every 2 weeks average. Shisha is probably the best thing to smoke if you're gonna do it. Mmmm. Tried salvia 2 weeks ago. It just gave me a headache. It was low quality though, I guess. That's not all, though. I could never get into pot except whenever I mooch off my friend. I don't have that kind of money. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 03:43
Same as me Andy - those prog curries just wouldn't be the same without relaxing after a meal by sucking on a fag, would they? Stop giggling, you American types, you know what I mean  ------------- 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 03:54
I believe the term fags is always quite obsolete in Australia too, so count us in too
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 04:26
I know what you mean. Long gone are the days when you can ask if it's ok to 'bum a fag' 
Oh well. The last time we met up I was at the point where I was having the occassional ciggie with a drink. So, days would pass in between fags. But, one leads to another to another to another, and before you know it you're back to square 1. I really thought I'd cracked it last year, and I've been pretty upset with myself for being so weak. I will quit again, though. I'll do it as many times as it takes. It's a rotten habit. |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 05:47
Don't smoke........But I went to the Netherlands eight times.There may be something wrong ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 07:56
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My parents are from the Carrollton, KY area, which has bunches of tobacco curing warehouses. They smoked, I think pretty much all my grandparents and most of my relatives did or do. Being on a few road trips as a kid in smoke filled cars actually conditioned me against it. As a young teen I did take a puff off one out of curiosity. Gack. Pretty much cured me of any interest in taking up the habit. The only way you'll get me to smoke is to set me on fire. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 08:07
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I tried smoking once, due to a kind of 'peer pressure', when I was about 14, while I was on a French exchange trip...
it was truly a pathetic sight to behold...I coughed my guts up, my eyes watered and I could hardly breathe..
 I still remember the disdainful cries of 'just inhale the bloody thing' from all the attractive girls in my year, who had congtregated at the back of the bus to observe the sad spectacle...
 Although I was never quite socially accepted again, I ended up having more spare cash to spend on Rush CDs...
 Which in turn, made me even less socially acceptable...  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 09:03
No hope for me then - I'm a smoking Rush fan  -------------
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 09:09
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^^although, I guess whether you are 'smoking' or not, is entirely subjective... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 10:33
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and just what your definition of smoking is...
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 12:57
I used to in my 20's but gave up as part of saving for my first house. They say in these parts that there is nothing worse than a reformed smoker. That's true - I can't stand the things now and I get really narked when I go into town and walk through clouds of fag smoke. The UK now has a smoking ban in public buildings so all the smokers congregate outside building entrances. It's flipping awful having to walk through the haze - and the litter they create is just disgusting. Still who am I to complain if smokers like torching a fiver everytime they buy a packet. I'd rather spend my cash on a decent CD or two.
Which by definition excludes Rush CDs
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 13:39
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C02lvgmm4DQ - Hehe... And no, i don't smoke. Never smoked. If it wasn't so bad for your health i probably would, though. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 14:02
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Is it even possible that you can breathe a hot or warm colloid into you lungs and it be good for you? Maybe in the future.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 09:11
I quit smoking for the last time in 2002, this time for good. In my peak period (1984) I came to 33 cigarettes a day -  . I've never become a fanatic non-smoker, but I'm glad to have my lungs clean...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 10:56
Believe it or not, I 100% agree with you - responsible establishments at least have decent ash-trays outside, but those which don't are disgusting to walk past. One good thing about the smoking ban in pubs though is that I no longer smell like an ash-tray when I get home...
Hmmm - reading this thread has given me an idea... see you in 5 minutes  -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 17:21
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a yes for me... one of my numerous bad habits... how much?.. . too much. though.. with life's changes .. quitting will be a priority for me... for once I have a real reason to want to grow old and piss and drool upon myself without assisted care haha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 17:38
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A yes from me... while I'm finishing another bituca here. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: November 07 2008 at 20:19
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Yes here too. Cigarettes and rolling tobacco ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 01:49
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I smoke styrofoam |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 02:01
S**t get's you ca$hed, dude. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 04:55
Well, oddly enough, if you're going to smoke it is actually good for you to be forced outside where you can get some fresh air in your lungs, too. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 18:40
Depends on whether you live in any of these places or not http://www.livescience.com/environment/061018_polluted_places.html - http://www.livescience.com/environment/061018_polluted_places.html . In which case you will die twice as fast ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: November 08 2008 at 19:06
| Smoked for 25 years, then after a particularly bad case of pneumonia which had me on my back for three weeks doctor hinted I might want to quit. Which I did, though I still enjoy a jawful of Copenhagen or a fine cigar now and then. Nectar of the gods, that nicotine. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 09:39
I like rolling tobacco much more than cigarettes. I think the taste is far superior!
I don't smoke much, though. Just every once in a while, sometimes 2-3 a day, sometimes none in a week. I do smoke cigars sometimes, but I never inhale them.
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 09:57
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20-25 cigarettes a day... rolling greek tobacco.... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 10:15
You're not supposed to aren't you? It hurts otherwise And yes, roling tobacco is far superois in every way. Economically as well as taste. I'm a Golden Virginia fan myself  ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 10:42
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By the way, does anyone notice - cigarettes become worse and worse? I remember back then, in the 90s, cigarettes of different manufacturers (Winston, Marlboro, L&M, Kent and others) had different tastes. Now all of them are almost similar, and all are worse than 10 - 15 years ago. Am I wrong? ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 12:50
| I'm not a smoker, but I'm an on-and-off user of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus - snus , the proud Swedish tobacco product. A lot better than cigarettes when it comes to health, but bad nonetheless. Quitting slowly, but steady. |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 13:22
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you Swedish and your snus, I was so confused when I got over
there and I thought a lot of people just had some kind of upper-lip
problem
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 13:29
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Who can blame you?
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 14:33
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on a daily basis, 7-10 on average, 2-3 L's on average, so that's a lot of smoke. i tried quitting a couple of times, the best was going a week and a half summer 07, but havent officially quit yet. been looking into it recently, it's especially hurting my wallet! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 15:16
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I am happy to see the results. Quit smoking
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 17:16
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Tried it as a young teen, got really sick, never did it since.
Disgusting, silly, pointless, poisonous, expensive, smelly and polluting habit. Why do almost all smokers feel they are free to litter everywhere, with their discarded toxic butts?  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 19:24
My butt is not toxic.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 20:03
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mine isn't toxic.. but I hear it is hot as hell
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 20:28
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I've been told that mine is a dreamboat! ... but this came from a guy Oh well |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 20:33
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hey... sometimes you have to take it where you can get it.....who said men can't judge butts ... I've had many men complement me on mine. In fact just the other week at the bar.. I was having some of the toxic type..some chap called Winston...some guy came up to me....I think he wanted some of mine. Told me mine looked pretty tasty and asked if he could have some..
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 22:13
I am wondering what kind of bar you were in!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 22:20
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I think Raff wonders the same as well.. 9 more days for me.. then quitsville... long overdue... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 08:26
Probably the number one way us non smokers get started not smoking. Which makes me curious how many smokers had a bad first encounter but still took up smoking anyway...
"Air can hurt you too Air can hurt you too Some people say not to worry about the air Some people never had experience with..." Talking Heads ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 09:03
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Between 6-10. more like 10, half a package. Anyway I must quite smoking, bad habit, very bad
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 10 2008 at 15:37
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My wife's successfully given it up twice since I've known her. Unfortunately got started again in February.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 11 2008 at 14:38
That ain't good  Give my luck for when she starts quitting again ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 12:10
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Had to vote non-smoker, as I've been on nicotine replacement therapy for a few months. I can recommend the nicotine lozenges.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 12:18
| My uncle bought a odd Hypnotic "recording" which he you upload to your iPod or MP3 and you sleep with it and you quit the habit, no joking. My uncle and his girlfriend, both heavy smokers, quit smoking with this odd recording from one day to another, of course my uncle suffered from withdrawal syndrome, though he's ok now and still without smoking. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 12:36
But sooo satisfying, Peter
I'm glad you qualified that with "almost"; I too cannot stand it when people throw their cigarette ends anywhere they please; you'll hopefully remember that when V&I visited that place we always carried a sealed box for our dog-ends & left nary a one to be seen < smug grin-------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 14:06
And those patches are really good if you roll them up and smoke them. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 14:13
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 14:16
Yes, they're particularly effective if you stick them around a Marlboro..
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 18:00
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There is a debate going around the campus here of whether it should ban smoking, which I think is a misdirected and selfish idea. I can understand bans on smoking by doorways and wanting to keep streets clean of butts. However, the campus is big, and to want people to cross a long distance just to smoke is unfair. It seems to me that a lot of non-smokers seem to think it is a right to not encounter unpleasant or infringing odors every once in awhile. By such a logic, couldn't the strong use of cologne be banned as well? Of course, smoking causes cancer, but a momentary sniff of a trace of tobacco smoke is not going to make any noticeable difference in the length of your life. Making the campus smoke-free would be discriminatory unless smoking areas were established at reasonable places of access around campus. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 12 2008 at 18:27
^ At last someone mentioned that smokers are people too and have some rights.  ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 03:28
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Yes,pot smokers too! ------------- I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world of searchers with the help from crimson king |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 12:56
Then you won't mind if I stand next to you and fart. And yes, cologne should be banned as well. We ban it in the hospital. I wonder who people really think they are impressing with that stuff. Selfish? To make a more pleasant environment for those who don't smoke? Do you know how little smoke it takes to set off an asthma attack? Its fair and unselfish to expect those people to have to make detours to avoid smokers and smoking areas? Being an ex-smoker I can honestly look back and recall that it was a very selfish behavior. I have no problem with it being banned in any public area. As a matter of fact, people who smoke in their cars should have to roll up the window! Smoking is the Love Beach of breathing. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 13:50
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Bring back Opium dens - at least they were dry and warm, unlike designated smoking area's which are anything but. I honestly couldn't give a crap where I smoke as long as I'm left to do it in peace, I've been ostracised for being a selfish and antisocial pollutant and a walking health-risk to millions and I can accept that, I unreservedly apologise for anyone who has inadvertently inhaled any of my unwanted smoke over the years, it was never my intention to share, just an unfortunate side-effect of a world that didn't know any better from an age that was none the wiser. I'd just like some comfort in return for making the working, shopping and eating environments cleaner and more pleasant - just some warmth, protection from the elements and perhaps somewhere to sit down, if that's not asking too much - after all, Southern Britain doesn't quite have the same climate as Southern California, so al fresco anything is not as accommodating as it should be (we even wear thermals on the beach in high summer most years) - and due to my advancing years, somewhere I can walk to without the need for a base-camp and Sherpas would be nice. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 13:58
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 14:00
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I can buy into that. Containment sounds like a better alternative for everybody anyway. I am all for letting bars have smoking, as long as they are not eateries. But smoking dens would be right on. On the subject of Britain, I was there just before the ban took effect. I was amused by the smoking areas in Heathrow. The whole airport smelled like smoke even with no-smoking signs everywhere. Then we would round a corner and see a smoking corral. The billowing smoke from the area rivaled a steel mill. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 14:08
The Gatwick one was a slight improvement - the coral was lined with air extractors - 'twas like standing in a wind-tunnel.
I remember landing in San Francisco a few years ago after a 13 hour flight and asking a security guard where I could go for a smoke, "Nevada" he replied stoically. ------------- What? |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 16:42
It's much fairer to expect non-smokers to make a detour of a few feet that to expect smokers to make a detour of half a mile to smoke. Remember, this is a college campus, not a neighborhood with private residences.Again, this could be offset with smoking areas close to dorms. But then there are people who are not satisfied with having 99.99999% of the entire outside world smoke-free, they seem to want, even demand the right to that last tiny refuge for smokers. It's not even a matter of rights, it's a matter of decency and fairness. Some people who've written to the school paper's opinion section, vigilant non-smokers they are, seem to think that the unhealthiness of smoking justifies their lack of fairness toward people who do it. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 17:17
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^ Yes, some non-smokers are often too aggressive to owners of this bad habit. I wonder how these fans of fresh air tolerate cars, power stations and other "smokey" things.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 17:26
It's not as if cigarettes cause a 5 meter radius circle of smoke around the smoker. You'll be lucky if you even reach a metre. In fact, I tend to blow my smoke upwatrds so as not to offend anyone. Is it so much effort to move out of your way just slightly so to avoid the smoke? I notice that most people would walk the other side of a crowded street to avoid a Big Issue salesman, but when it comes to smoking WE are the ones that have to be moved. It's not right man  As NotAProgHead mentioned, how do these people cope with some of the bigger pollution sources such as power stations and deisel vehicles. They must cry themselves to sleep. By the way, I'm referring to passionate anti-smokers, not just people that prefer not to smoke. Please don't take it the wrong way ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 14 2008 at 11:25
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Hey I don't mind you smoking as long as you don't exhale and breathe in all the smoke that you particular smoking device produces.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 14 2008 at 11:40
Some pretty awesome logic you have there ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |