I want to start a poll to find the most prog friendly nonprog tune, but before I nominate all MY favourites ( as so often seems to happen in other polls) I'd like to canvas your opinions.

As "Prog", and therefore "nonprog" seem impossible to define in a way on which everyone can agree I will offer the following definition: Artists not listed in the prog archives.

A good example might be, say,

"Kashmir", "No Quarter", (Led Zep), or

 "the Prophet Song", "Brighton Rock", "Bohemian Rhapsody",(Queen).

 What about "I Cheat the Hangman" (the Doobie Brothers) 

"Am I Evil" (Diamond Head) .......(there ya go Certif1ed!)

anything from "Peasants, Pigs and Astronauts" (Kula Shaker)

side 2 of "Low", (David Bowie)....

Come on, let's have some suggestions 

Deep Purple's "Child in time"

Grateful Dead's "Terrapin' station"

Joe Jackson's "Symphony n° 1" (actually all the record)

Joe Satriani's "Banana mango pt II" (with stunning drum work by the great Simon Phillips)

Kate Bush's "the fog" (feat. a sublime violin work by Nigel Kennedy)

Gordon Giltrap's "Peacock party" (entire album)

Joni Mitchell's "Paprika plains" (16min +, jazz meets classical)

Thats the stuff Lucas, and as for Paprika Plains, I think the whole album (Don Juan's Wreckless Daughter) is a masterpiece, especially due to the stunning bass of Jaco Pastorius.

p.s. "Hotta","Toccata" (Sky)

OK I'll play - definitely LED ZEP'S "Kashmir"

lucas wrote: Deep Purple's "Child in time" Grateful Dead's "Terrapin' station"

And there are two more. 

How about the OUTLAWS - "Green Grass And High Tide"?

and the EAGLES - "Journey Of The Sorcerer"?

Radiohead -Paranoid Android

Some of Revolver, all of Sgt. Pepper, some of Abbey Road, "Kashmir," "Bohemian Rhapsody," "Dive" (DC Talk)..."Fly Like an Eagle" (?)  I'll come up with more later.

Nice one. Now there coming...

"Stargazer", Rainbow.,

 "One of Those Days In England", Roy Harper.

p.s. Maani, "Fly Like an Eagle" was by Steve Miller, brilliant example, fine spacey groove. 

GRAND FUNK RAILROAD - "Closer To Home / I'm Your Captain"

ROBIN TROWER - "Bridge Of Sighs / In This Place"

STEELY DAN - "Deacon Blues"

HEART - "Soul Of The Sea"

Deep Purple's "Purpendicular waltz"

Tori Amos' "precious things"

The Cure's "Bloodflowers" (the title track)

Kevin Gilbert's "Water under the bridge"

Czeslaw Niemen's "Bema pamieci zalobny-rapsod" (1970, Polish greatest rock artist, actually it can be onsidered prog)

Marek Grechuta's "Ulica cieni" (1974, another great Polish artist)

TOTO's "Mushanga"

Eric Johnson's "Venus isle"

Jeff Beck's "Space boogie"

Metallica's "Call of Cthulu"

Iron Maiden's "Infinite dreams" (from '7th son of a 7th son, an album that I like very much)

Steely Dan's "Royal scam"

Lone Star - The Bells Of Berlin

Be Bop Deluxe - Blazing Aphostles

Wings -Band On The Run

Simple Minds - Waterfront

Propaganda - A Dream Within A Dream

The Stranglers - Nice n Sleazy

Zep's "Achilles' last stand"

CCR's "suzie Q part 2"

Tool "lateralus"

Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing & Money For Nothing"

Eagles "Hotel California"

Iron Butterfly "In-a-gadda-da-vida"

Metallica "Orion"

Cream "White Room"

many others could qualify as well

AYE CARUMBA!

I should have posted this up front -

SUGARLOAF - "Green Eyed Lady"

More Hammond B-3 madness! 

YES I WAS THINKING OF GREEN EYED LADY TO...ANYWAY

so long:Boston

Dont fear the reaper:Blue oyster cult

TEUSDAY Morning"PAUL KOSSOFF(bad company)

Hold your head up:Argent

The Porpoise Song:The Monkees

Clear Air Turbulence:Ian Gillan Band

Spirit in The Sky:Norman Greenbaum

Telegraph Road:Dire Straits

Love To Love You:UFO

And Many others

Great suggestions litter this thread, ('specially Zep's "Achilles' Last Stand", Bebop Deluxe, the Stranglers (though no one mentioned Golden Brown..Harpsichord, odd and often changing time signature, how prog friendly do you want?) Even noticed Dire Straits in there (I remember hearing "Private Investigation" for the first time as a prog mad schoolboy and thinking, hello, where are these guys heading?? Their next single "Twisting By The Pool" soon answered that question though!!!).

A poll seems a little redundant now, but here's a couple more contenders;

Red Hot Chili Pepers-"Breaking the Girl"

Wishbone Ash-"the Pilgrim".

Weather Report-all of "Heavy Weather".

Jamiroquai-"Music of the Mind". (Jazz fussion instrumental.)

Steve Vai-"Little Green Men",or "Call it Sleep" from Flex-able.

Supergrass-"Moving"

Anybody out like Kula Shaker btw?  Much more prog than Britpop but they got lumped in with the mid 90's Blur/Oasis/Supergrass crowd, somewhat unfairly in my view.

dude wrote: YES KULA SHAKA:THEIR VERSION OF HUSH,EXCELLENT...AS a matter of fact they could be a good candidate for this site!!!

I agree! Whats more I've just m@iled the Archives on that very subject!

Where to begin?

I see a lot of my faves have been mentioned - what? Wishbone Ash aren't prog???

Try these;

AC/DC - Let There Be Rock (especially some of the awesome 20-minute live versions - my favourite is the one on "If You Want Blood...")

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath

Blue Oyster Cult - Black Blade/Monsters (Cultosaurus Erectus)

Boston - Foreplay/Long Time (Boston)

Celtic Frost - the entire album "Into the Pandemonium".

The Clash - Guns of Brixton

Diamond Head - Living on Borrowed Time

The Damned - Plan 9 Channel 7/Smash It Up (Part I)/Alone Again Or

Groundhogs - Split (all parts) (and Cherry Red!)

Helloween - Ride the Sky (Walls of Jericho)

Metallica - Master of Puppets

Ozzy - Mr Crowley

Pink Fairies - the whole "Kings of Oblivion" album.

Radiohead - Exit Music For A Film/Lucky/The Tourist (from OK Computer - a prog album if ever there was one!).

[me shuffles feet and looks at ground]

...didn't read all of the first post - was too excited to list fave music tracks (there are soooooo many!)

[/me shuffles feet and looks at ground]

danbo wrote: Elton John - Funeral for a Friend.

Mhm, I like the whole album! A spicy one! First time I heard Funeral for a Friend I thought it was Greenslade...

 "Ebony and Ivory," by Jackson & McCartney! Pure prog magic!

(Just joking! That saccharine pap is a waste of three minutes of anyone's life! Jackson aside, McCartney sure has released a lot of guano in his time! BARF!)

Seriously though, lots of Kate Bush and Sting is very intelligent, small "p" progressive music. From Kate "Cloudbursting," from the former schoolteacher Gordon Sumner, I'll pick "Why Should I Cry for You."

Lovely, moving stuff!

Vibrationbaby wrote: Black Sabbath -Sabotage. Figgy Duff -Weather Out The Storm.Primus-Tales From The Punchbowl. The Flaming Lips-Yoshima Battles The Pink Robots. Vangelis-Albedo 0.39 Fleetwood Mac-Rumours (Love the Chain)Larry Coryell&Alphonse Mouzon- Back Together Again  Whoa! so much.

 Figgy Duff (no, not Hilary Duff, Danbo, you wacko), eh Vibe? Where are you from, me son? 

danbo wrote: Elton John - Funeral for a Friend.

Yup, that'll work.

How about THE POLICE - Synchronicity

ACTUALLY I CALLED LONG TIME BY BOSTON "SO LONG"......MY MISTAKE!!!...ANYWAY WHAT ABOUT A 200 BY DEEP PURPLE, I to thought of FUNERAL FOR A FRIEND but thought that would be stretching it....glad to see others thouht it was not out of the question

TALES OF BRAVE ULYSSES:CREAM

SIMPLE MAN:BAD COMPANY(Paul Rodgers.....What a voice!!!)

PETER:SPEAKING OF STING....SET THEM FREE FROM DREAM OF THE BLUE TURTLE OR are WE REALLY STRETCHING IT HERE???

WARNING/SLEEPING VILLAGE:BLACK SABBATH(another stretch???)

CERTIFIED MENTIONED CELTIC FROST....A  "PROGGY" band with some really good moments!!!

 Yeah, Dude, lots of the Celtic/"electric traditional" stuff could fit here, such as:

Fairport Convention - "The Wounded Whale" & "Tam Lin" (to name only two)

Steeleye Span - "Jack Hall," "Two Butchers," "Long Lankin," "Edward," "Lady Diamond," "The Prickly Bush," and "The Old Maid in the Garrett," plus a hundred other songs I could easily name -- hey, my Celtic collection is bigger than my prog collection!

But one classic Irish trad/prog band, in particular, belongs on the Archives proper, and I repeat: Horslips, Max, Horslips! (Ask any Irish hippy!)

Enjoy the music! Lots of kinds of music! (But especially prog!)

dude wrote: PETER:SPEAKING OF STING....SET THEM FREE FROM DREAM OF THE BLUE TURTLE OR are WE REALLY STRETCHING IT HERE???

Yeah, I'd say that Sting in general is intelligent jazz & prog-fan-friendly music! Good call!

Peter Rideout wrote:  Yeah, Dude, lots of the Celtic/"electric traditional" stuff could fit here, such as: Fairport Convention - "The Wounded Whale" & "Tam Lin" (to name only two) Steeleye Span - "Jack Hall," "Two Butchers," "Long Lankin," "Edward," "Lady Diamond," "The Prickly Bush," and "The Old Maid in the Garrett," plus a hundred other songs I could easily name -- hey, my Celtic collection is bigger than my prog collection! But one classic Irish trad/prog band, in particular, belongs on the Archives proper, and I repeat: Horslips, Max, Horslips! (Ask any Irish hippy!) Enjoy the music! Lots of kinds of music! (But especially prog!)

Man after my own heart. I even worked for Span, selling merchadise at gigs, UK tour in '83, plus attending many a Fairport Reunion Festival. Like "Prog-unplugged". 

UFO, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Iron Butterfly. They all have their prog moments.

If you like prog metal: Try the first album from Iron Maiden (especially the song 'Phantom From The Opera') or Judas Priests 'Sad Wings Of Destiny' (AAAAh, Victim Of Changes!! ). A very progressive death metal band are Mercyful Fate. Try their album 'Melissa'. Very loud, but great riffs!

Jim Garten wrote: raggy wrote: Man after my own heart. I even worked for Span, selling merchadise at gigs, UK tour in '83, plus attending many a Fairport Reunion Festival. Like "Prog-unplugged".  You talking about the splendid bashes at Cropredy, there? I'm a veteran of the last 13 of them myself...... Going this year? Mostly Autumn & Jethro Tull are playing (also, if rumours are true, it could be the last one)

Then you just missed me Jim. I moved to Amsterdam 14 yrs ago but before that, a regular...coincidentally, yesterday I was looking at some old photos of me and my mates in our teenage years, Croperdy '86, when Bob Plant got up on stage with Fairport and did a folk version of the Lemon Song. Sweet!

HERE ARE SOME MORE

GOLDEN MILES:HEALING FORCE

DAVYS ON THE ROAD AGAIN:MANFRED MANNS EARTH BAND(The live version with all the keyboard work!!....come to think of it you could add BLINDED BY THE LIGHT!!)

LIFE's WHAT YOU MAKE IT:TALK TALK

THE THOUGHTS OF EMERLIST DAVJACK:(BUT I CANT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BAND...THE NICE????????)

THE WRECK OF THE EDMUND FITZGERALD:GORDEN LIGHTFOOT(BASED ON THE SAD EVENT ON THE GREAT LAKES IN 1974:PETER RIDEOUT: YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS ONE!!!)

DREAMER:SUPERTRAMP(ASA MATTER OF FACT SUPERTRAMP HAD A LOT OF PROG FREINDLY SONGS)

MAGIC CARPET RIDE:STEPPENWOLF

THERES NO WAY OUT OF HERE:DAVID GILMOUR(ACTUALLY YOU COULD INCLUDE ALL OF HIS SUBLIME FIRST SOLO ALBUM!!)

Sorry Dude, but the following are disqualified;

DAVYS ON THE ROAD AGAIN:MANFRED MANNS EARTH BAND(The live version with all the keyboard work!!....come to think of it you could add BLINDED BY THE LIGHT!!)

THE THOUGHTS OF EMERLIST DAVJACK:(BUT I CANT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE BAND...THE NICE????????)

DREAMER:SUPERTRAMP(ASA MATTER OF FACT SUPERTRAMP HAD A LOT OF PROG FREINDLY SONGS)

All of these artists are featured in the Prog Archives, (see opening post on this thread). I'll let you off with Dave Gilmore as his solo work (inexplicably) is not included.

 As an old rocker, and fan of both Zep and Fairport, I would not have complained -- I would have been thrilled!

 It has come full circle: That's former Fairport vocalist (sadly, dead now) Sandy Denny singing with Plant on "The Battle of Evermore."

Peter Rideout wrote:  As an old rocker, and fan of both Zep and Fairport, I would not have complained -- I would have been thrilled!  It has come full circle: That's former Fairport vocalist (sadly, dead now) Sandy Denny singing with Plant on "The Battle of Evermore."

That's right, and as you mentioned it, "the Battle of Evermore" is a prime candidate, no prog fan could deny this track as being Prog-friendly. Zep seem to be a firm fave with progheads, and no one's even mentioned their brilliant if somewhat over played (I wonder why?) "Stairway to Heaven". My favourite album is Zep 3, (their most acoustic/folky album) the best track being "Thats the Way".

Jim Garten wrote: raggy wrote: Jim Garten wrote: raggy wrote: Man after my own heart. I even worked for Span, selling merchadise at gigs, UK tour in '83, plus attending many a Fairport Reunion Festival. Like "Prog-unplugged".  You talking about the splendid bashes at Cropredy, there? I'm a veteran of the last 13 of them myself...... Going this year? Mostly Autumn & Jethro Tull are playing (also, if rumours are true, it could be the last one) Then you just missed me Jim. I moved to Amsterdam 14 yrs ago but before that, a regular...coincidentally, yesterday I was looking at some old photos of me and my mates in our teenage years, Croperdy '86, when Bob Plant got up on stage with Fairport and did a folk version of the Lemon Song. Sweet! Ah, you should have been there in '93, then, when Bobby Plant was on stage with them for over an hour, doing a full-on set of Zeppelin songs - much to the bemusement / chagrin of the arun sweater wearing, beardy trad-folk fans....... they weren't happy & actually complained to Fairport afterwards

Yes Jim, the 'finger in the ear' brigade can be a bit dogmatic about their folk. Or perhaps possessive is a better word. God forbid a group of "hippy types" should hijack THEIR music. What really gets me is the fact that FOLK, by its very definition, is the music of the common people, and not the sole property of a bunch of elitist, middleclass, volvo driving, pipe-smoking, real-ale-swigging computer programmers from Milton Keynes.

I may well go this year, especially If it's going to be the last. Do you know who else is playing?

sorry i didn´t follow the discusson above...

i think that...

- page & plant no quarter's Kashmir, with the oriental instrumentation

- steve vai's incantation, a live performance

- iron butterfly's in a gadda da vida (rocks)

- soda stereo claroscuro and planeador (live versions)

peace

Anything by Peter Gabriel and XTC

Velvetclown wrote: Anything by Peter Gabriel and XTC

the difference 'tween a lemon and a lime.

 A few more suggestions:

Early Roxy Music - ie Ladytron

The Tubes - White Punks On Dope

Mansun - Six

Budgie - Napoleon

Iron Maiden -Rhyme Of The Ancient Mariner

ELP - Memoirs Of An Officer And A Gentleman

HERE ARE TWO MORE

STYX(YEAH I KNOW PETER!!)COME SAIL AWAY

VAST:TOUCHED

dude wrote: STYX(YEAH I KNOW PETER!!)COME SAIL AWAY

There's a vast difference in quality and "prog friendliness" between "Come Sail Away" and the egregious "Mr. Roboto", just as there's a world of difference between the art rock of 1977's "Grand Illusion" album and the "anything for some radio play so we won't get kicked off the label" desperation of 1983's "Kilroy Was Here".

So dude, I think you're safe dude.  

I'd also nominate Styx's "Crystal Ball", if Styx wasn't already in the archive.

WOW....I HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE ARCHIVE FOR AWHILE....STYX ARE ON THEIR???...BY THE WAY WHAT DOES THAT EG WORD MEAN!!! I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE

Jim Garten wrote: Hmmmmmm - egregious - good word - dunno what it means, though - Stormcrow, Peter, help needed from us thickos

Danbo is correct. 

My desktop Random House Webster's Concise Dictionary defines "egregious" as "extraordinarily bad; flagrant; glaring."

Stormy used the word perfectly!

Always glad to help!

Surprisingly no one has mentioned:

Mountain - Nantucket Sleighride

Shame on everyone

 Ian McDonald (former King Crimson member) added the prog flavor to that first album. It is a good disc, everything after is MEAGOR.

 Hey, Raggy

This is a "PRE-POLL" right? http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001">

So when does the "REAL-POLL" start?

WOW WHAT A GOOD THREAD!! CIVIL THOUTFUL AND INFORMATIVE

HOW ABOUT MAgic carpet ride by steppenwolf!!

how about the band parliament and their "galactic" funk sound

PLEASE CONSIDER

dude wrote: WOW WHAT A GOOD THREAD!! CIVIL THOUTFUL AND INFORMATIVE HOW ABOUT MAgic carpet ride by steppenwolf!!

yes, Magic Carpet Ride.  

my pick: The Magician's Birthday by Uriah Heep