The Thrash, Grindcore, Doom, and the likes Thread
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Topic: The Thrash, Grindcore, Doom, and the likes Thread
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Subject: The Thrash, Grindcore, Doom, and the likes Thread
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 03:30
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Well i see many threads of certain prog specific genres and when i start to hear (again) Morbid Angel's Altars of Madness i decide to start a thread of this wonderful, great music. Maybe the mayority of PA fellow members will dislike this kind of music, but that's the reason to be here in General Music Discussions. So, i will start with mi first Thrash and recently rename maybe prog metal, album and that is Metallica, Ride The Lighting, a great album by all means. The tracks that use to hear in those days (1984-88) was the fastest ones like Fight fire with fire and Trapped under Ice, with special mention to Creeping Death. And then a whole world open when, along with Prog (my main music like), i found many heavy as hell bands, like Nuclear Assault, Venom, Sodom, Kreator, Destruction, Overkill, Anthrax, Slayer,Megadeth, Acid Reign, Sacred Reich, Exodus, Testament, Suicidal Tendencies, Death Angel, Dark Angel, Morbid Angel, etc. So, please opinions and share of this kind of music.  -------------  |
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 04:34
Rename it the "Extreme Metal Appreciation Thread" Oddly enough, we don't think there ever was a big thread about all, just topics on particular bands. I think many regulars here are well aware of me being a metal fan... never been big on power metal (probably only about 1 or 2 bands in the genre I regularly listen too) and the more more melodic metal genres, but always more of a fan of the extreme metal genres. I love listening to the stuff, and playing it on guitar too, and hopefully I will start my own/join an extreme metal band a few years down the track. ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 06:29
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I agree with Hughes, much better to call it the extreme metal thread. Most "heavy metal" fans don't dig these genres too much except the more accessible side of thrash and doom. I am a big fan of thrash metal and late 80s- mid 90s death metal. There may be others here who can put me to shame with how much they have explored these genres but for all it's worth, here are some thrash gems that anybody who likes thrash should check out if they haven't already: Rigor Mortis - Rigor Mortis Forbidden - Forbidden Evil Hypnosia - Extreme Hatred Torture Squad - Pandemonium Fastkill - Infernal Thrashing Holocaust Torture - Storm Alert Artillery - By Inheritance I would mention Morbid Saint but their popularity in internet circles has shot up so much recently that it seems redundant to talk them up anymore. Turning to death metal now, Gorement - The Ending Quest Seance - Saltrubbed Eyes Bloodstone - Hour of The Gate Nunslaughter - Hell's Unholy Fire Deathevokation - The Chalice of Ages Massacra - Final Holocaust It's possible you are aware of these albums already, in that case I don't in any case claim to be a know-it-all. Please note that the recommendations are not given from the point of view of "Prog" but from the point of view of "extreme metal". So, many of these albums will be raw, visceral and not high on technicality or even differentiation but a hardcore fan of extreme metal will doubtless dig these albums. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 07:47
| It may sound funny, but I think I began listening to death-metal before thrash-metal, maybe Napalm Death before Metallica or Slayer. Even nowadays, I'm more interested in death-metal than in thrash-metal. Well, at least, I would rather listen to tech-death than retro-thrash! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 08:20
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So many favourites to include in one thread. top gems that come into mind are: 1. Testament - The Gathering 2. Metal Church - Same 3. Arch Enemy - Black Earth 4. Dark Tranquillity - Mind's I 5. At the Gates - Slaughter of The Soul 6. Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power 7. The Haunted - ...Made me Do it 8. Nevermore - All discs... 9. Annihilator - Never , Neverland and the best 00's metal release IMHO Machine Head - The Blackening  |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 16:13
| Pig Destroyer makes some fantastic, brutal grindcore. And somehow, despite standing in front of large, blasting amps has not made them deaf yet. |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 16:40
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well, thats pretty much my watering hole right there, I've never really took to calling anything "extreme Metal", to me its all just Metal, be it Heavy, Thrash, Death, Black, Doom whatever, I love Black Metal, and that along with Doom Metal are pretty much my favorite subgenres of Metal, I do love Death Metal but I've really had very little interest with it since about 93, I still love and listen to frequently the old great DM bands like Autopsy, Rottrevore, Nuclear Death, Nihilist, Incantation, Sadistic Intent, etc...I really just prefer my DM basic rugged and to the point, I don't find as many interesting bands in BM anymore either though, the newer bands that I find interesting (like Circle of Ouroborus and Nuit Noire) you would probably bare even consider them BM, but I still love and listen to frequently old bands such as Venom, Hellhammer, Bathory, Profanatica, Blasphemy, early Samael, Burzum, Root, Graveland, Belketre, Torgeist, etc ...I guess I do like some newer bands like Proclamation, Morbosidad and Blasphemophager just because they all do that Blasphemy style of BM so well and Doom Metal of course, from the Traditional Doom Metal of Saint Vitus, Candlemass and Trouble, to the other styles of Doom hybrids out there Death/Doom, Funeral, Sludge, whatever, if anything I probably find the current Traditional Doom Metal scene draws out my excitement the most, Reverend Bizarre, Warning, The Lamp of Thoth, Hour of 13, Blood Ceremony, Reino Ermintano, The River, Jex Thoth, the mighty Pagan Altar, etc |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 25 2008 at 16:42
love the band, and the album, their best IMO  |
rogerthat wrote:Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 04:16
That reminds me: Am I the only one who thinks Pagan Altar sound like what Jethro Tull eventually would have turned into if Tony Iommi had stayed in that band? ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 13:23
haha! that makes sense to me, they have a sound that definitely 'lives in the past', its like when they initially broke up they sidestepped out of time, and reentered in 2004 to record music that's completely unaffected by any music trends that have come and gone since their break up in the early 80s |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 13:26
Looks like great minds think alike!  Actually, I'd go a step further and say that Pagan Altar seem thoroughly unaffected by any music trends after the early 70s... ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 14:36
They just have an "old" sound to them, like a bunch old hermits that have lived under a rock for the last 100 years all of a sudden surfaced to record some Heavy Metal music 
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 15:03
new black metal that you might not hate. . . - wolves in the throne room. raw, emotive, good. might want to try them out. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 15:06
and im surprised at how few of the bands listed here ive actually heard of, let alone listened to. yikes. but ive always been more of a fan of slower sludgey, stuff when it comes to metal. i want to get into grindcore though, its a lot of fun to listen to. anyone here a fan of the Locust? lol ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:38
yeah, I've got both their albums, they get a lot of praise from outsiders, I never quite figured out if I like them or not...I just know I spend way too much money on CDs and thats got to stop, they're not bad (I thought Weakling was better), still not sure how they got into the Prog Archives they're tight musicians but they play a pretty standard Northern style of BM that many other bands have perfected long before they... |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 17:46
I love The Locust man, I think their best stuff was the first album + all the EP and split EP stuff before they signed to Epitaph, Plague Soundscapes isn't bad...just not as explosive as their earlier stuff, I haven't heard anything since Plague Soundscapes though I saw them live twice, first time was in 96 I think - they sure did tear it up back then, they put on such a brutal yet zanny show |
Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:16
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ha ha id kill to see the locust live. talk about a fun show.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:17
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The Locust? Well, if I can get through the masks and all that stuff... While I can listen to Bolt Thrower or Entombed for hours, I hardly can listen to a whole grindcore album, even if a good classic grindcore LP "mustn't" be longer than 25 minutes. By the way, has Citizen released its second album? I didn't have heard of them for a long time. I guess Matt Widener is busy rehearsing with Cretin. |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:24
| we'll see if Cretin will continue after Marissa's transformation, I hope they do, that would be awesome! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:32
| On the website of Cretin, it is said they are working on new material. Moreover, on her blog, Marissa explained she will continue to do the vocals, as the sex-change operation has no impact on the voice. |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:39
she is awesome, I can't wait! |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 18:47
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I didn't really ever think of the Locust as metal, but they are by far one of the most interesting bands out there. I should really check out if they're going to play around here anytime soon.
I think we should introduce someone in the RIO department to them, haha. ------------- 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 19:16
Haha, considering the cacophonic music they make, it's possible that they actually are deaf. really though, Pig Destroyer is the one grindcore band I can tolerate. They are very good at what they do. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 23:05
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stoned doom is the only subgenre of metal I like, in particular old classic stuffs from Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Pentagram, Count Raven (...) the new bands coming from this scene don't interest me at all (with the exception of the wounded kings).
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 11:58
Stoner Doom is a great subgenre i like ti a lot!!  ------------- |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 11:59
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By the Way what think about the drone metal scene? band like Earth and Sun O)))
Today i will listen the first album of Earth
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 14:59
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I like DOOM but I don't care for Stoner, granted some bands crossover into both camps but ultimately I prefer Doom METAL, over Stoner Rock,
Some of the Drone stuff is okay, but after the success of Sunn everyone jumped on the bandwagon seeing how easy it was to make a band out of sustained bass tones and call it "art",
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 27 2008 at 18:37
I... will try it. One day, for sure. After listening to Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" or the stuff of Skullflower. Yeah, one day... Earth for sure. Sun O? Weeeellll... Maybe if they swipe out the "mystical" imagery. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 18:18
I've recently started checking out some doom/stoner stuff. So far, I have some Electric Wizard, Burning Witch and Earth. Please make me a list of more bands! Preferrably on the doom side of things. Some grindcore recommendations would be appreciated too. I feel a bit lost... 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 18:56
Well, what about the 90's UK Doom? Cathedral, Anathema (early years, I mean), Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride... These bands were the spearhead of doom-metal in the nineties. Of course, there's also the "lost pionneers" of the seventies, Pentagram; then the early eighties US bands: Saint Vitus, the Obsessed, Trouble. Not to forget: Candlemass! "You are bewiiiiitched!" |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 30 2008 at 19:16
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This is Hilarious :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s0ys2IanCM&feature=related
check this out!  ------------- |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 00:07
Yeah... but, Sabbath is not a Doom band by any stretch of the imagination  -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:05
Sun O)))  I've only heard a tiny bit of Earth, but what I heard I really liked. I don't know the scene that well to be honest, but I like to listen to drone/doom metal to chill out now and then. -------------
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:13
The first album of Earth is a rellay outstanding one, very good so i recommend to You and all that like doom drone metal. ------------- |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:14
Many so called "historians" of Doom metal classifies BS as the first doom metal band or at least proto doom metal and citing the first lyrics of doom the title track ------------- |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:32
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Proto-Doom at absolute best, and even that is a stretch. Yes, they had doomy lyrics, but the musical connection to actual doom metal is so remote that you cannot possibly call Sabbath a doom metal band. Yes, the downtuned guitars are there, the dark lyrics, but there is a distinct difference between stylistic origins and cultural origins. The stylistic origins of doom might have begun with Sabbath, sure, but the genre was not clearly defined (the cultural origins) musically and culturally until the early 80s. Honestly, I don't think bands need to keep being glorified as being "This" or "that" when really they were just what they were. In the case of Sabbath, it's a heavy metal band. Let's be happy with that. -------------
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:35
Agree with that ------------- |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:44
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The fact is that Black Sabbath was the first HEAVY METAL band (I stress on the heaviness of their music). Then, in the 80's, the word "heavy metal" seems to have became a synonym for "hard rock" and its subgenres. So, music-critics and/or musicians felt the urge to categorize each tiny tendency in "heavy metal": hard to say Metallica, Slayer, Mötley Crüe, Bon Jovi or Venom all belong to the same genre. Just like rabbits in Australia, the subgenres appeared: speed metal, black metal, thrash metal, doom metal, etc. Categorizing Black Sabbath as the doom metal band would be correct if ignoring that most doom metal bands began their career a decade after Sab'. There's a ten-years gap between Sab' and Pentagram and their "offspring". In fact, calling Sab' a "doom metal" band is as relevant as saying the history of the USA began with the history of United Kingdom: there's a link, yet... |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:48
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^ In addition to that what do BS in their eponymous album, haven't been done by any band before, just hints Blue Cheer come to my mind, but Sabbath exceeds them in terms of dooming and glooming.
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 13:56
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^ but doom has evolved to the point where the black sabbath reference is hardly relevant to the current scene. people point the finger back to sabbath now for EVERY form of metal. it gets tiresome, no matter how they influenced the genre, which they certainly did.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 14:10
Just like Venom and black metal: I hardly see how can one neophyte could do the connection between Venom and bands like Xasthur, Leviathan or Ludicra. |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 15:20
Thing is, Venom invented the term "black metal" with the purpose of describing their own music... so saying Venom aren't black metal is like saying Magma aren't Zeuhl.  ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 17:24
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Black Sabbath is definitely proto-doom, and there's no point in arguing about that I think. From what I've heard, the Black Sabbath-ness seems more prevalent in stoner metal than in doom metal these days. The sound is there, but not so much in doom any longer. As for the recommendations, thanks! I already know Trouble, but I'll check out the others. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:07
What I meant was that it is sometimes hard to understand how a whole musical genre can evolve to a direction that the listening of the creators of said musical genre couldn't let anyone predict. To make it clear, I wasn't saying that Venom is not "black metal" (I know my metal and I know that "Black Metal" was the second LP of the trio, released in 1982): I wanted to say that what is called nowadays "black metal" can't be compared to the original sound of Venom. Same thing for Black Sabbath and some of the developements of doom metal, Magma and Ruins, Dead Kennedys and the various subgenres of hardcore (a subgenre of punk rock). |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: October 31 2008 at 21:13
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I hardly ever call Black Sabbath a Doom Metal band, but when the proper genre of Doom Metal was solidified in the 80s the emulation of Sabbath in sound, lyrics, image, etc was the #1 motivation. So indeed Sabbath was the launching point for all that, so if someone wants to retroactively assign Sabbath (in their early years) as the first Doom Metal band, I'm not going to scold them, you also have a few other bands like Flower Travellin Band, Bang, Jerusalem and Sir Lord Baltimore that were churning out proto-Doom sounds in the 70s as well, and what about an anomaly like Bedemon? their music was Doom Metal as pure as it gets...but of course they obviously weren't calling themselves anything buy Heavy Metal or Hard Rock, The very first band to ever use the term Doom Metal was a band called Warlord from the UK - and no its not the NWOBHM band Warlord, but an earlier band that had a short existence in the mid 70s http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21018 - http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21018 I like your points CPicard, I agree new genres are rarely created out of intention, its usually the unexpected results that follow in the aftermath that later define a new genre or subgenre |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 01 2008 at 05:05
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Yeah, genres are usually defined rather "after-the-fact" - and often so by critics, marketing people or just fans rather than the musicians themselves. When those fans then deli berately set out to play a genre, they inevitably end up doing something different than those pioneers who "created a genre accidentally" simply because they're thinking more about such things. The chapters on folk music and punk rock in Faking It: The Quest for Authenticity in Popular Music (a book I just finished reading, I have a thread about it in the music books forum) go into details about this. However, there are exceptions here like when bands deliberately set out to create new genres like Magma and Venom. With black metal it might help a bit if you think of a subgenre as less a sound than an attitude - various black metal bands might not sound the same but it's very similar thoughts they're expressing. Probably the same thing with Zeuhl. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 02:23
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Good points, That's one thing that annoys me about Black Metal and new comer fans of the genre - somewhere around mid 93-95 Black Metal fastly became defined by the Northern/Norwegian style of BM - which for obvious reasons (due to the controversy) got all the attention. Now, I never thought Norway was the be-all, end-all of BM, yeah there's been some good BM bands to come out of Norway but also plenty more 2nd-tier and just plain crappy bands as well. I prefer the days when the Black Metal tag was bandied about more liberally and bands as diverse in sound as Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer, Onslaught, Sarcofago, Blasphemy, Abruptum, Mystifier, Master's Hammer, Mortuary Drape, Profanatica, Von, Mayhem and Burzum all fit comfortably under the banner of Black Metal. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 08:38
Yes, Black Sabbath sound more like stoner bands or should we say they sound more like Sabbath than traditional doom/death-doom bands. Now, did anybody else notice that Philippe - whose post started this derail - mentioned Sabbath as a stoner band?
 Black Sabbath covered wide-ranging styles and to pass off Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Heaven and Hell for stoner is dubious; the first three albums is where it's at. But at least then, his post is not completely without basis. It is not common to mention Sabbath as a stoner band rather than just heavy metal, but it's not entirely inaccurate either. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 19:10
thanks to re-listen "master of reality"! -------------
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:29
Iommi has been quoted as saying he invented Doom Metal ... ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:34
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I feel old when I remember trash as being Motorhead, Tank, Raven, and others like that (early Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax). I feel great listening to them though. Overkill, Filth Hounds of Hades, All for One ... WWWWWWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 13:12
is THrash ------------- |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 13:18
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Yesterday i found a band called Monolithic from France, they recorder three "official" albums, but the have only one song, like Sleep's Dopesmoker, any of you know this band?
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 04:49
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So, I'm sitting here listening to a newly cleared band for addition, Orthodox "Gran Poder" album, and what do I hear?
A Venom cover. Last track on the album is Genocide. Tripped me out. Now, I have to dig Manitou out.
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Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: November 06 2008 at 19:47
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nothin' wrong with a Venom cover now and then...
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: November 09 2008 at 01:40
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Recently i'm hearing these bandas: Sodom, Specially Obsessed By Crueltry and Persecution Mania Kreator, Pleasure to Kill and Terrible Certainty. Nuclear Assault Game Over/The Plague. Anthrax Among The Living and Spreding the Disease. Type o Negative, Slow, Deep and Hard. ------------- |
Posted By: Spina Biffbyforda
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 20:13
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ever check out KORPSE....ace Scottish DM band...lotsa Voivod, Rush and King Crimbo vibes,,,, give RE_VIRGIN a go....it's a treat ------------- vvvoooiiivvvoooddd |
Posted By: Yde
Date Posted: January 08 2009 at 11:14
Agree. Actually I've always thought of them as a bit proggish with elements from folk rock and stuff. Besides they've listed Jethro Tull and Uriah Heep on their "inspiration list". ------------- Help me in my search for knowledge, I must learn the Secret Art. Who dares to help me raise the one Whose very name near stills my heart? ASTAROTH |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 06:22
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I've always liked my metal pretty heavy, and went through a spell in the 80s when I just wanted my metal faster, faster and faster.
Metallica's Kill Em All blew me away, as previously the best around were the likes of Venom and Jaguar. Megadeth, Exodus and Anthrax came along, but the ultimate just has to be Slayer. I still listen to them even now. Hell Awaits and Seasons In The Abyss are just the ultimate real metal for me.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 09 2009 at 07:27
Ah, grindcore  I think Deathgrind like Mortician also deserves a mention. Amazing stuff. Cephalic Carnage are probably my favourite grind band, but I do love a good bit of Napalm Death, A/C (brutally humourous), Pig Destroyer and early Bolt Thrower. Dethklok as well, they're pretty brutal and on the Grindcore level ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 13:55
| Dethklok, grindcore? Er, I guess I should watch the show one of these days. |
Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 18:40
I think he was just pulling our leg, thus the eyewink, at least I hope so |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 19:10
Me too They are brutal though. "Yeah, the song's called Mermaid...errrrrrrrrrrrrr. It's about mermaid murder... MERMAIDER!!! MERMAIDER!!! MERMAIDER!!!" In fact, grindcore is about as brutal as classical music when put up against Dethklokcore. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 10 2009 at 22:14
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I always love how Dethklok is always called this supremely heavy and brutal band on the show, and really, they are melodic death metal and not always particularly brutal
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 11 2009 at 19:38
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Best show in the universe I also love how they've finally christened the Scandinavian Guitarist steroetype. I wonder if that's actually how Mikael Akerfeldt is in real life? "Ummm... We don't know how to play... physically fast." "Yeah, it's too hard!" ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |