Does anyone like the Beatles Revolution #9?
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Topic: Does anyone like the Beatles Revolution #9?
Posted By: KarmaPolice
Subject: Does anyone like the Beatles Revolution #9?
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 19:48
Many Beatles fans hate this track while some who really don't like the Beatles that much seem to like this track. Any one like this track and did it have any real influence on their peers?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 19:55
I like the track for it's weirdness.
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 20:00
No, when i listen to the White Album , i make sure to find the button ''skip'' when it comes to this....(.i wanted to write ''song'') ....noise collage ..fits the description better....number 9 number 9, number 9...and it lasts how long?? ....7..8 mns!!!
However, i am sure we are maybe going to find someone who thinks that this is the highlight of the disc, a definitive piece of genious creativity of modern music .Who knows!
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 23:00
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 23:02
Slartibartfast wrote:
I like the track for it's weirdness.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 23:10
Its a track that used to scare me as a child
Now I can appreciate its high strangeness and artistic merit - there is nothing like it in music since and its a bonafide prog track.
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Posted By: Proglodita
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 23:16
In fact, I don't like it so much, but neither press the "skip" button. But it has something that makes it, I don't know, beautiful? ...not the best word, maybe interesting. At least more than King Crimson's Moonchild.
And surelly influenced Las Jaivas in making "Los Caminos Que Se Abren".
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 20 2008 at 23:21
I am not interested in Moonchild either... too slow and meandering - we live in an instant society and if we are not instantly satisfied we hit the skip button.... theres too much great music out there to waste time.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 02:10
I always thought it was rather strange, i never liked it. This seemed to be an attempt at avant-garde which was lost on most people, a stain on an otherwise brilliant album (and "Goodnight", the worst Beatle track ever).
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 03:42
I don't mind the track at all.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 07:41
I listen to it (very) occasionally. An interesting experiment which the rest of the Fabs hated.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 07:50
Can't say I love Revolution#9. But the only White Album track I always skip is Obla-di-obla-da, like any sane person.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 08:44
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Its a track that used to scare me as a child
Now I can appreciate its high strangeness and artistic merit - there is nothing like it in music since and its a bonafide prog track. |
There's not much artistic merit in "Revolution #9" - it was influenced by Stockhausen's experiments (as were many Beatles pieces at that time, such as "Rain", "Tomorrow Never Knows" and "A Day In The Life"), but is clearly just a piece of fun rather than a highbrow attempt at avant-garde music - in fact, it seems to poke fun at a particular Stockhausen piece. If you listen to it often enough, a manic kind of logic shows through - but I rather think that's accidental, hence it's not Prog, because it's not composed, there is not inherent improvisational logic, and the influence is from one single identifiable source.
" http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K0h0ApJAeSg - Kontakte " is the Stockhausen masterpiece that really influenced both John and Paul, so much that John produced 3 albums with Yoko, and Paul produced a piece of myth and legend called "Carnival of LIght", which has only ever been performed once, at an Electronic music festival in 1967, alongside the likes of Delia Derbyshire. If you're even vaguely interested in avant-garde music featuring electronics and tape manipulation, you should hear this - and also " http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AT8rI_A8M - Poem Electronique " by Edgard Varese - which are good introductions to this sort of music.
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
I am not interested in Moonchild either... too slow and meandering - we live in an instant society and if we are not instantly satisfied we hit the skip button.... theres too much great music out there to waste time. |
The famous section of MoonChild on the other hand is a fantastic work of near avant-garde wierdness - it's a common mistake to write it off as meandering. It isn't - it has a definite purpose and internal logic.
It's not quite avant-garde, because it contains a beautiful central logic that is essential to the expression of the song - it's not at all random, and patience is rewarded by music of unearthly beauty. It most definitely is not a waste of time, and it is great music.
Prog is not about being instantly satisfied, it's about lasting art.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 08:50
FYI - the only chart I've ever seen of the Beatles' worst songs had Mr Moonlight at number one, as far as I remember, although Revolution #9 was near the top.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 09:01
Certif1ed wrote:
If you listen to it often enough, a manic kind of logic shows through - but I rather think that's accidental, hence it's not Prog, because it's not composed |
Is that some kind of rule we all have to agree on (I'm not thinking about Revolution #9)?
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In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 09:18
Rocktopus wrote:
Can't say I love Revolution#9. But the only White Album track I always skip is Obla-di-obla-da, like any sane person.
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I guess i am insane, not that i really love Obla-di, but i don't feel the need to skip this one as much as Revoulution 9.....Now i go back to the asylum before they notice i escaped for a while.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 09:54
Rocktopus wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
If you listen to it often enough, a manic kind of logic shows through - but I rather think that's accidental, hence it's not Prog, because it's not composed
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Is that some kind of rule we all have to agree on (I'm not thinking about Revolution #9)?
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We don't have to agree on rules - but they are there, nonetheless.
The examples discussed here in some ways show differences between Non-Prog (Revolution #9), Prog (MoonChild) and, for want of a better word, "Classical" (Kontakte), where the non-Prog is more or less random - pieced together merely because the sound appeals (in the same way as pop songs), the Prog is artfully contrived, and delivered in an improvisatory manner, producing a pre-conceived narrative, and the "Classical" is structured according to the various sections and sound groupings (although here the difference becomes blurred, as a performance of "Kontakte" may become improvisatory up to a point, due to the graphical nature of the score).
As everybody knows, Prog does not have a clearly defined set of rules - but here the differences are distinct.
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 10:20
Certif1ed wrote:
We don't have to agree on rules - but they are there, nonetheless. |
As Budgie said: "If I were Britannia I'd waive the rules..."
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 11:01
I too was scared of "Revolution 9" as a child, but as an adult I can truly appreciate it regardless of how random or devoid of structure it may seem. My only complaint is that it's a bit long for a sound collage.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 13:33
Moonchild gets beat up on a lot by reviewers, unfairly so.
I'd also rank number nine number nine number nine above all the Beatles stuff pre Rubber Soul.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 14:46
Angelo wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
We don't have to agree on rules - but they are there, nonetheless. |
As Budgie said: "If I were Britannia I'd waive the rules..."
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But you're not Britannia, and the rules kind of enforce themselves, if you think about it.
Slartibartfast wrote:
Moonchild gets beat up on a lot by reviewers, unfairly so.
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Indeed - I gave quite a detailled analysis in my review - but if people only want instant gratification, what can ya do?
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 17:59
Certif1ed wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
If you listen to it often enough, a manic kind of logic shows through - but I rather think that's accidental, hence it's not Prog, because it's not composed
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Is that some kind of rule we all have to agree on (I'm not thinking about Revolution #9)?
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We don't have to agree on rules - but they are there, nonetheless.
As everybody knows, Prog does not have a clearly defined set of rules
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Fine. It sounded like you meant it did.
I get the differences. But I do think, within a rock context, Revolution #9 has a progressive attitude.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 19:17
Yep - I love Rev#9 - at the time I disliked quite a lot of the other tracks (Ob-La-Di-hell, most of Side 2, Mother Nature's Son, Good Night) - but #9 was one of my favourite tracks.
I remember sitting listening to it with my friends arguing about the infamous 'Paul is dead' rumour/conspiracy about it.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 19:54
I enjoy listening to it once every 10 years or so.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 21:57
jammun wrote:
I enjoy listening to it once every 10 years or so. |
Shouldn't you be listenenening to it once every nine years?
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 21 2008 at 22:27
I always liked the track and don't see any reason to skip it at all. I always listen very closely to it, trying to figure out what is happening. Anyway, the skip would only carry me to "Good Night".
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 01:51
Certif1ed quoted:
The famous section of MoonChild on the other hand is a fantastic work of near avant-garde wierdness - it's a common mistake to write it off as meandering. It isn't - it has a definite purpose and internal logic.
It's not quite avant-garde, because it contains a beautiful central logic that is essential to the expression of the song - it's not at all random, and patience is rewarded by music of unearthly beauty. It most definitely is not a waste of time, and it is great music.
Prog is not about being instantly satisfied, it's about lasting art."
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I agree on some of those terms. I didnt really consider Revolution#9 music - it is more a sound collage of Yoko's artistry. She was into modern art as we know and wanted it on the album. I heard that Paul hated it and wanted it off, but when ever any one attacks is he says "Its the bloddy white album... sod off."
i guess you cant attack this type of genius without getting flamed. However I still do not like the track at all.
Moonchild by King Crimson is a difficult piece to absorb. I love the rest of the album, but Moonchild as I said in my review (which was attacked for this very reason) is still one to ponder on and is not popular by many prog fans here I noticed.
'Moonchild' is the longest track and annoyingly tends to just go on and on, almost as a complete improvisation in the studio recorded without forethought at times. I know this is one of the most annoying things about this band that I love, but it is also the reason that they are outstanding; they do improvise in concert substantially, and it has garnered their reputation for jazz fusion. So it's a catch 22 – if you are into a band as experimental as King Crimson there are going to be moments in their repertoire that will infuriate you. Michael Giles drum patterns are interesting enough but unfortunately, as far as I am concerned, 'Moonchild' is just about the worst they have recorded. It should have been cut by about 6 minutes and there is too little going on for my tastes to even make this memorable. It is more or less a jazz improvisation and doesn't really go anywhere. Maybe this is why some fans adore it.
I absolutely cherish King Crimson but cannot get past Moonchild for some reason. But if you care about the birth of progressive rock, if you like your prog jazzed up with a fusion of heavy mellotron, if you love saxophone interlaced with jagged guitar rhythms, look no further. "In the Court of the Crimson King" is an album that encompasses all that makes prog rock so enticing, and in a sense it captures all that made King Crimson one of the leading progressive masters, brilliant but flawed geniuses.
Now... flame on!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 08:32
Dean wrote:
Yep - I love Rev#9 - at the time I disliked quite a lot of the other tracks (Ob-La-Di-hell, most of Side 2, Mother Nature's Son, Good Night) - but #9 was one of my favourite tracks.
I remember sitting listening to it with my friends arguing about the infamous 'Paul is dead' rumour/conspiracy about it. |
Dean, you'll be pleased to hear that Paul is not dead. At least he wasn't the last time I saw him.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 12:29
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
Yep - I love Rev#9 - at the time I disliked quite a lot of the other tracks (Ob-La-Di-hell, most of Side 2, Mother Nature's Son, Good Night) - but #9 was one of my favourite tracks.
I remember sitting listening to it with my friends arguing about the infamous 'Paul is dead' rumour/conspiracy about it. |
Dean, you'll be pleased to hear that Paul is not dead. At least he wasn't the last time I saw him. |
After dealing with Heather Mills, maybe he wishes those 60s rumors were actually true.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 13:05
It got me to listen to some Stockhausen - Hymnen. I still don't see why random noises, no matter their origin or manner of generation are "interesting". And as far as Number 9, is that under B or I in Bingo ?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 13:46
debrewguy wrote:
It got me to listen to some Stockhausen - Hymnen. I still don't see why random noises, no matter their origin or manner of generation are "interesting". |
Remember, noise and dissonances are "avant-garde".. we tonalists and lovers of melody are musical-neanderthals...
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 15:13
One of, if not THE weirdest "song" i've ever heard! Some parts of it are quite listenable. But overall....
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 19:55
There is an actual website that has translated every sound and noise and spoken word from Revolution#9 - some people have way too much time on their hands...
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 20:03
The T wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
It got me to listen to some Stockhausen - Hymnen. I still don't see why random noises, no matter their origin or manner of generation are "interesting". |
Remember, noise and dissonances are "avant-garde".. we tonalists and lovers of melody are musical-neanderthals... |
Last night, I switched my radio to the AM dial and composed a symphony. Today the dial don't work no more. So I titled the "oeuvre" dialdied. Oh, and hooray for CD remote controls, eh. And 9 is under I in Bingo, isn't it. If you're tone-deaf, would you be able to determine if something is atonal ? If I have six pack Abs and am well toned, am I physically able to judge good music from bad ? If I have atoned for my sins in listening to AC/DC, can I offer an opinion on other music ? Wasn't Atonio the name of Osannah fifth guitarist ? Is there such a music as "En Garde" ? Oh Canada, we play Avant-Garde for thee True patriot love abound for Rush the Band . Ton histoire est une epopee, ecrit par Harmonium. And brilliante was the guitar that Serge strum And glorious stuff wrote he. God bless our land Zeuhless with trees. Oh Canada we play avant-garde for thee, oh Canada we also play hockey ...
(apologies for the missing words and two front teefs)
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 22 2008 at 20:14
debrewguy wrote:
The T wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
It got me to listen to some Stockhausen - Hymnen. I still don't see why random noises, no matter their origin or manner of generation are "interesting". |
Remember, noise and dissonances are "avant-garde".. we tonalists and lovers of melody are musical-neanderthals... |
Last night, I switched my radio to the AM dial and composed a symphony. Today the dial don't work no more. So I titled the "oeuvre" dialdied. Oh, and hooray for CD remote controls, eh. And 9 is under I in Bingo, isn't it. If you're tone-deaf, would you be able to determine if something is atonal ? If I have six pack Abs and am well toned, am I physically able to judge good music from bad ? If I have atoned for my sins in listening to AC/DC, can I offer an opinion on other music ? Wasn't Atonio the name of Osannah fifth guitarist ? Is there such a music as "En Garde" ? Oh Canada, we play Avant-Garde for thee True patriot love abound for Rush the Band . Ton histoire est une epopee, ecrit par Harmonium. And brilliante was the guitar that Serge strum And glorious stuff wrote he. God bless our land Zeuhless with trees. Oh Canada we play avant-garde for thee, oh Canada we also play hockey ...
(apologies for the missing words and two front teefs)
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That was very intriguing! Where does that come from? Or was it made up in the spot.... Love this bit "AC/DC, can I offer an opinion on other music ? Wasn't Atonio the name of Osannah fifth guitarist ? Is there such a music as "En Garde" ?
Classic stuff
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 02:53
If I listen to the album again, I think I very much want to use the skip button.
I do like the Beatles for most of their experiments, but not for all of their experiments. It was nice that they broke a lot of musical rules, but the fact is that I don't like this track at all.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 15:48
Have you tried listening to it backwards while hanging upside down?
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 18:09
Slartibartfast wrote:
Have you tried listening to it backwards while hanging upside down? |
Actually there are apparently backwards messages on the track.
when you spin the vinyl album backwards with your finger, the message comes out as clear as a bell
"Congratulations.. you have just ruined your turntable and stylus!"
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 18:21
chopper wrote:
I listen to it (very) occasionally. An interesting experiment which the rest of the Fabs hated. |
Paul didn't so much hate it as feel a bit miffed that he wasn't involved in it - he'd been investigating avant garde music and tape loops before John Lennon got into it, although it was never a particularly obvious influence on his music.
Anyway, I have always loved the White Album to bits and I'm no more likely to skip Revolution #9 than any other track.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 23 2008 at 18:34
chopper wrote:
Dean wrote:
Yep - I love Rev#9 - at the time I disliked quite a lot of the other tracks (Ob-La-Di-hell, most of Side 2, Mother Nature's Son, Good Night) - but #9 was one of my favourite tracks.
I remember sitting listening to it with my friends arguing about the infamous 'Paul is dead' rumour/conspiracy about it. |
Dean, you'll be pleased to hear that Paul is not dead. At least he wasn't the last time I saw him. |
Oh, I have thought about the other rumour. The one that a very similar guy to Paul replaced him, but the real Paul Mccartney died in one of the first albums, and that the album covers had like kind-of subliminal messages telling that Paul was really dead, anyways it must have been coincidence.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:40
I love it, but I´m glad there is only one
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Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: November 13 2008 at 11:33
Yes, I do. But I prefer the first revolution.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: November 16 2008 at 09:28
It's interesting and like some said I also like it's wierdness, but usually I skip it when listening to the white album. The problem is it's far too long, I probably wouldn't skip it if it would be shorter.
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Posted By: AlanD
Date Posted: November 17 2008 at 11:49
The interesting thing about the exercise in randomness that is Revolution No.9 is that it was aimed at a mass audience, unlike Stockhausen's pieces.
As a sound collage, it works for me and moreover it reflects the culture that inspired it - one driven by a constant low-level media babble. In the context of an album that sold several million in its first week of release, it's practically subversive for its times.
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:17
Well, it's kind of cool for its wierdness, but I only occasionally listen to it.
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 15:48
The Beatles are my favourite band, and it's not that I don't like Revolution #9, but it goes on too long in my opinion, that's why I usually skip it. If it were a bit shorter I'd have no problem with it, I kinda like its wierdness and all the nonsense, but it gets boring after a couple of minutes.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 16 2008 at 17:02
el böthy wrote:
I love it, but I´m glad there is only one
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Perhaps it would be better if there were 9 of them?
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 11:46
I like it for its haunting weirdness. When I'm playing side 4 of the white double album, I never skip it. Besides this, the transition to 'Good Night' happens unnoticed, and the latter sounds as a song that is played at the end of an all-American Walt Disney christmas movie, with Santa and Rudolph popping up and lots of snow, which fits perfectly in this time of the year...
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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 15:33
What's wrong with Ob la di ob la da? I love it. I don't know why so many people find it hard to enjoy a nice happy melody.
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Posted By: AlanD
Date Posted: December 18 2008 at 08:00
I also love the 'Macca Monster' that is Ob-la-di Ob-la-da and the humour and invention shine through - check out the b.vox ad-libs on "Desmond lets the children lend a hand (arm, foot, leg...)" - mind you, Macca drove Lennon mad with scores of different takes before that last one and it's actually John that plays that opening piano riff.... you can hear the frustration in it!
The Beatles are also my all-time favourite band....followed closely by Stackridge... then early Genesis....then everything else !!
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 14:47
jimidom wrote:
I too was scared of "Revolution 9" as a child, but as an adult I can truly appreciate it regardless of how random or devoid of structure it may seem. My only complaint is that it's a bit long for a sound collage. |
Funny you should say that. As a kid I loved The Beatles, and one day I had Revolution 9 on, and my little sister went and hid under her bed!
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 14:50
SgtPepper67 wrote:
What's wrong with Ob la di ob la da? I love it. I don't know why so many people find it hard to enjoy a nice happy melody. |
The only thing people have a problem with it is the fact that it's not experimental or prog related, when that's all they were expecting from The Beatles at that point in time. I also enjoy it as a nice happy tune (even though I prefer other stuff on The White album to that).
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 24 2008 at 12:10
If there is no artistic merit in doing something ... what is the point of living?
Art for art's sakes? Sure ... go buy a picture of onions and tomatoes for your kitchen and dining room!
The same was said about the cover for Sgt Peppers at another time.
But there are many things in there that pretty much clear up where a lot of inspiration for all 4 Beatles came from. It's not hard.
A lot of things that are buried and sneaked in there that show the confusion and feeling of the time in that day and age. There was "too much" (no different than today) and a lot of it was "direction-less" (like today) ... and it was rather difficult to make up one's mind and stand up for something ... and immediately get confused by a comment or another idea.
In many ways, this is the dychotomy of the 60's ... perfectly illustrated in the ending of the "Woodstock" film, and I imagine that Jimi knew it better than anyone ... and was hoping that one could rise up above the TRASH with something more important and meaningful than just a song ... and the perfection of the WHITE ALBUM is that the song right after it is ... Good Night ... time to get a rest and some sleep and get away from the overload of everything, from meaningful to utter bullsh*t.
To compare this to Stockhausen, Heinemann or Varese and any of those Theramin, early day "classical" composers is kinda sad. They were way too academic like the Beatles were not and had not been from the start in their own musical history ... they were a breath of fresh air ... those guys were not, when compared to the later works done in the analog synthesizer world by Vangelis, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze and so many others ... who were far more anarchistic in their experimentation than those composers ever were. Not to mention that Tangerine Dream, Klaus and a handfull of others pushed the envelop when it came to helping define things that expanded into the digital world much later ... ask Edgar Froese about tape loops and how they got some engineers to do some things.
The real secret is that The Beatles were not unaware's of many of these things and if you break down that song in spots you will be surprised of all the arts, film, theater, radio and stuff that was around them during that time ... if one thinks that Revolution #9 is junk and sh*t, then in essence one is denying an artist, or in this case The Beatles, his/their own voice and opinion ... and that is sad indeed.
But it only takes a better and more detailed listen for you to find that there is a much bigger world out there inspiring the Beatles, as there is/was for you and I ... but we can not describe it in minutes ... and someone did.
Good Night ... (and the concept and ending is, my friend ... astounding!)
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Posted By: keith_emerson
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 14:18
Revolution 9 is the perfect picture of Yoko Ono ruining a great band
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 17:38
In my childhood, I could sing No.9, No. 9, No. 9...and dance to the No. 9 with clap.
Do you think I might be a strange kid?
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Posted By: T.Rox
Date Posted: December 31 2008 at 19:10
No.9 is okay when I'm in the mood for it ... and I like Goodnight, too!
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...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 08:13
I love it, and I also love the mono mix of it.
But then, I like a lot of werid stuff
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 13:32
Number nine number nine number nine number nine..... Noooooooooooooooooooooo Yessssssssssssssssssss ooh eh eee ooh eh eee eee ooh eh eee ooh eh eee eee riiiiiiiiiigggghhhhtttt riiiiiiiiiigggghhhhtttt
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 01 2009 at 17:16
Slartibartfast wrote:
Number nine number nine number nine number nine..... Noooooooooooooooooooooo Yessssssssssssssssssss ooh eh eee ooh eh eee eee ooh eh eee ooh eh eee eee riiiiiiiiiigggghhhhtttt riiiiiiiiiigggghhhhtttt
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Dance like this...
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Posted By: Rank1
Date Posted: March 05 2009 at 14:19
Has anyone listened to take 20 on Revolution 1 that has been leaked out to the public?
I never understood the comparison by some of "Revolution #9 to Zappa "The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" has really nothing in common with "Revolution #9. There is no rhythm, sampling, reverse tape effects, and tape loops on "The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" The music here is more fragmented, abstract and serious on "Revolution "9. The Beatles "Revolution #9 is a track that has reverse tape effects, sampling, and other looped effects.
The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet is more related to the 1968 Beatles track "What's the New Mary Jane".
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Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: March 31 2009 at 22:18
I like Revolution 9. I think it's funny just to hear what I think is John Lennon just doing silly voices.
"So anyway, I went to see the dentist..."
"The Watussi... The Twist..."
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 05:34
theteaclub_dan wrote:
I like Revolution 9. I think it's funny just to hear what I think is John Lennon just doing silly voices.
"So anyway, I went to see the dentist..."
"The Watussi... The Twist..."
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Eldorado..
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 10:25
micky wrote:
theteaclub_dan wrote:
I like Revolution 9. I think it's funny just to hear what I think is John Lennon just doing silly voices.
"So anyway, I went to see the dentist..."
"The Watussi... The Twist..."
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"If... you become naked..."
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 14:18
theteaclub_dan wrote:
micky wrote:
theteaclub_dan wrote:
I like Revolution 9. I think it's funny just to hear what I think is John Lennon just doing silly voices.
"So anyway, I went to see the dentist..."
"The Watussi... The Twist..."
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"If... you become naked..." |
Take this brother.. may it serve you well...
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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: April 01 2009 at 15:11
Certif1ed wrote:
The famous section of MoonChild on the other hand is a fantastic work of near avant-garde wierdness - it's a common mistake to write it off as meandering. It isn't - it has a definite purpose and internal logic.
It's not quite avant-garde, because it contains a beautiful central logic that is essential to the expression of the song - it's not at all random, and patience is rewarded by music of unearthly beauty. It most definitely is not a waste of time, and it is great music.
Prog is not about being instantly satisfied, it's about lasting art.
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 14:14
Revolution #9 is bizarre, manic and fun, as is What's the New Mary Jane? which turned up on the Anthology series, as did a longer edit of You know My Name (Look Up the Number) - the hilarious b-side of Let It Be.
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 16:54
Number 9 number9 number9 number9 ........yeah if only i could become naked ooooooooops Gettin a bit excited here9( must be Yoko) ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I like it
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 18:46
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
. . . there is nothing like it in music since . . . |
You sure about that?
http://www.freewebs.com/casualtiesofappliedmetaphysics/index.htm - http://www.freewebs.com/casualtiesofappliedmetaphysics/index.htm
And yes, I love Rev #9.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 18:47
Floydoid wrote:
Revolution #9 is bizarre, manic and fun, as is What's the New Mary Jane? which turned up on the Anthology series, as did a longer edit of You know My Name (Look Up the Number) - the hilarious b-side of Let It Be. |
"You know, you know my na-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ame!!!!
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: April 05 2009 at 19:13
Slartibartfast wrote:
Moonchild gets beat up on a lot by reviewers, unfairly so.
I'd also rank number nine number nine number nine above all the Beatles stuff pre Rubber Soul.
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That's right.
If ever one can explain to me JUST WHY Moonchild's silence is so hated,I can die a happy man.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:43
theteaclub_dan wrote:
I like Revolution 9. I think it's funny just to hear what I think is John Lennon just doing silly voices.
"So anyway, I went to see the dentist..."
"The Watussi... The Twist..."
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Some of them are Harrison.
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Posted By: theteaclub_dan
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 12:50
I wish there was video footage of the that song being recorded...
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: April 09 2009 at 13:43
^ Yes, that would be epic.
Who knows, we may get more insight regarding that track when the remasters come out in September. They say never before seen and heard footage will be uncluded, so we'll see . . .
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 22 2009 at 15:04
I like it. I've always loved those.....sound collages like that. But hell, I have actually listened to Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music before, other than just seeing what it was. So I can tolerate noise
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 26 2009 at 15:39
Slartibartfast wrote:
I like the track for it's weirdness.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 26 2009 at 15:40
p0mt3 wrote:
^ Yes, that would be epic.
Who knows, we may get more insight regarding that track when the remasters come out in September. They say never before seen and heard footage will be uncluded, so we'll see . . . |
Ah, the money making phrase
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: April 29 2009 at 16:55
It's the kind of song I would play billiards to...
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 02 2009 at 05:44
I dont love it i dont hate it, i dont skip it, its an intresting track its fun to listen to, i usualy love noise and dissonances, and i like it when there even in the most avantgarde piece some sort of minimal melody goin on you know, not yust noise for the sake of it, or something like that,kinda hard to explain...
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Posted By: Canprog
Date Posted: May 13 2009 at 17:22
I like it. I enjoy all the different sounds mixed with some quiet chatter in the background. Yoko has a couple lines to. It is kind of creepy but play it backwards and its positivley eery. The famous car crash and paul screaming "let me out" as he is licked by the flames.
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 18:27
There are backmasking sites such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0wksBzKSc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG0wksBzKSc
which are positively creepy - but forwards is as chilling
The lyrics are pure nonsense of course but worth quoting:
number 9 (lotsa times)
Then there's this Welsh Rarebit wearing some brown underpants About the shortage of grain in Hertfordshire Everyone of them knew that as time went by They'd get a little bit older and a litter slower but It's all the same thing, in this case manufactured by someone who's always Umpteen your father's giving it diddly-i-dee District was leaving, intended to pay for
Number 9, number 9
Who's to know? Who was to know?
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
I sustained nothing worse than Also for example Whatever you're doing A business deal falls through I informed him on the third night When fortune gives
Number 9, number 9, number 9
People ride, people ride Ride, ride, ride, ride, ride Ride! Ride!
9, number 9, number 9, number 9
I've missed all of that It makes me a few days late Compared with, like, wow! And weird stuff like that Taking our sides sometimes Floral bark Rouge doctors have brought this specimen
I have nobody's short-cuts, aha…
9, number 9
With the situation
They are standing still
The plan, the telegram
Ooh ooh
Number 9, number
Ooh
A man without terrors from beard to false As the headmaster reported to me My son he really can try as they do to find function Tell what he was saying, and his voice was low and his hive high And his eyes were low
Alright!
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9,
So the wife called me and we'd better go to see a surgeon Or whatever to price it… yellow underclothes So, any road, we went to see the dentist instead Who gave her a pair of teeth which wasn't any good at all So I said I'd marry, join the f**king navy and went to sea
In my broken chair, my wings are broken and so is my hair I'm not in the mood for whirling
Um da Aaah
How? Dogs for dogging, hands for clapping Birds for birding and fish for fishing Them for themming and when for whimming
Only to find the night-watchman Unaware of his presence in the building
Onion soup
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Industrial output Financial imbalance
Thrusting it between his shoulder blades
The Watusi The twist
Eldorado
Take this brother, may it serve you well
Maybe it's nothing Aaah Maybe it's nothing What? What? Oh
Maybe even then Impervious in London Could be difficult thing It's quick like rush for peace is Because it's so much
It was like being naked If you became naked
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 01:17
No, never liked it. although having it on vinyl compelled me to listen to all of it. As time has gone on, I've liked it less and less. I'm surprised there are actually lyrics to it, but then that's using the term loosely. I'd listen to Moonchild any day over Revolution #9, but the two are so completely different from one another. When I want avant-gard weirdness, I go for the Residents. Or Bartok for that atonal trip thing.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 07:16
I listened to it backwards and it was actualy much beter that way.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 14:45
I listened to the White Album today and surprisingly found myself liking this track. I think I've always kind of switched my mind off to other things when this track has come, but now I found it to be a really interesting combination of chaos and beauty. I've got to listen to it again soon.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 22 2009 at 15:03
Zargus wrote:
I listened to it backwards and it was actualy much beter that way. |
9 rebmun
9 rebmun
9 rebmun
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Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: May 24 2009 at 18:24
A master work.
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: May 25 2009 at 10:28
Actually it is in the Top 5 songs that I can't wait to hear on this album. Great song, great album.
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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 01:43
I'm listening to it right now...
I can't help but think that if it weren't for this song Pink Floyd would never have done Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast, which would have disappointed marmelade fans all over the world.
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Posted By: Morakthesage
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:36
I can't say I like it, but it's listenable. It's just a tape collage, and while those are limited in likeability, they sure as hell beat listening to top 40 radio today.
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Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 19:02
I listened to it one day when I was bored. What a weird song, but I like it anyway.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 12:37
keith_emerson wrote:
Revolution 9 is the perfect picture of Yoko Ono ruining a great band |
Btw ... that comment is malicious and dis-respectful of John's choice, for learning, living and loving ... and please ... don't embarass Keith's name with stuff like this ...
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:01
moshkito wrote:
keith_emerson wrote:
Revolution 9 is the perfect picture of Yoko Ono ruining a great band |
Btw ... that comment is malicious and dis-respectful of John's choice, for learning, living and loving ... and please ... don't embarass Keith's name with stuff like this ... |
Means a lot coming from you
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:20
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
...
which are positively creepy - but forwards is as chilling
...
The lyrics are pure nonsense of course but worth quoting:
... snip
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These words, by themselves, are a bit of the ol' 52 pickup routine ... and somewhat meaningless ... but there are other things missing here ...
the block that kick routine ... several times ... and that is either rugby or soccer
there are a couple of moments in there from Marat/Sade
there is some shakespeare
there is some "angry young men"
there is a something that I think is a Goon bit kinda messed with (and we know that John and Peter Sellers had known each other for some time)
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not sure that just interpreting, or trying to interpret some words out of context really help any ... and it might prove anti-climatic in the end.
A bunch of these are not "lyrics" ... they are just lines off the street per se ...
I wrote this the other day, and not sure if it was here or not ... it's like this ... you go out in the street with a camera turned on and with sound ... and you can hear many things ... now ... for some reason when you hear it back you think that it has to have some sort of order and organization ... and there is none ... the only one there is, that we can make, is that you walked down the street with the camera turned on ... and it picked up things ...
Are they meaningful? Some yes, soem no ... but then you also go to s aporting event to see your team win! (Block that kick) ,...
As I said before this is no more no less the mumbojumbo that your mind goes through and it is really hard to sort out the madness ... you're trying to tell me that your mind is better organized than this? Who are you folling? Yourself?
The Beatles, like many of us when we "grow up" arrive at a point, when it seems that /... "it's all too much" ... and it is really hard to figure out what is right and wrong ... and if there is a lack of solid internal stature this confusion will be really difficult to deal with.
It was ... many people did not like it ... but tell me something ... how is Revolution #9 different from Andy Warhol turning on a camera on people sleeping for several hours? It isn't ... in a way, it is also a way of telling us that we over react and over analyze things ... and sometimes ... it doesn't mean anything and it doesn't have to!
I say it meant something, and it is the reason why it is there ... but it is there to tell you that we're just as confused and loaded up as you are and we're trying to make sense of things as it is ... and no one is givng them that respect, credit and sensitivity ... and at the end of the day, is ... when you're tired and need to crash ... you get "Good Night" ... and it is the last song on the album ... I really think that it is not a coincidence that it was done that way ... but Paul and Ringo do not have to justify that for you and I ... or anyone else ... and neither do they have to put up with someone insulting their intelligence for their choice of music and songs ... after all that they had given us, including their lives!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:28
mr.cub wrote:
moshkito wrote:
keith_emerson wrote:
Revolution 9 is the perfect picture of Yoko Ono ruining a great band |
Btw ... that comment is malicious and dis-respectful of John's choice, for learning, living and loving ... and please ... don't embarass Keith's name with stuff like this ... |
Means a lot coming from you |
Show your class and respect .. and if my name were Keith I would have sent a legal letter to the board by now ... and expect immediate action and removal from the board and the user reprimended with a nice legality. The internet may be free and open and allow a lot of things, but if you are ready to go disparaging people like that ... just make sure you are ready to defend it! And eat it, if you lose!
It's the abuse that bothers me ... how would you like your name spread in stuff like that ... how would you feel if your name was John, or Yoko for that matter ... and how do you feel you would feel if your name was Keith Emerson ... it's not about me ... but then ... you didn't even read the comment since you had to add your 2 cents worth and add it to your 15 minutes of fame!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:54
I like it!
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 14:08
Moshkito, I agree that the statement about Yoko was disrespectful, but I am suprised at your outrage. I think few people on this site make as many disrespectful and rude posts as you.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:42
Easy Money wrote:
Moshkito, I agree that the statement about Yoko was disrespectful, but I am suprised at your outrage. I think few people on this site make as many disrespectful and rude posts as you. |
I don't understand the problem, if Homer Simpson says that Yoko Ono ruined the Plastic Ono band it's funny, but some people get angry if a member says the same thing using Revolution 9 when as a fact John and Yoko (The last one not part of the band) placed preasure over George Martin and Paul McCartney to include that piece of giberish that affects the integrity of the album IMO
Iván
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:58
^But who placed pressure to include that piece of gibberish Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, which is the track that seriously affects the intergrity of the album?
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 16:50
Rocktopus wrote:
^But who placed pressure to include that piece of gibberish Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, which is the track that seriously affects the intergrity of the album?
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Obladi Oblada and Yellow Submarine are bland, ridiculous and less than mediocre music.
But Revolution 9 is not even music IMHO.
Iván
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 17:07
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
^But who placed pressure to include that piece of gibberish Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, which is the track that seriously affects the intergrity of the album?
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Obladi Oblada and Yellow Submarine are bland, ridiculous and less than mediocre music.
Iván |
Really? Maybe Yellow Submarine, but Ob La Di? Wasn't it all part of the fun and welcoming atmosphere of that record, an album dismissed by much of the press as 'unprofessional'. Might as well add Rocky Raccoon, Why Don't We Do it in the Road, Birthday, Honey Pie, Everybody's Got Something to Hide, Bungalow Bill, Piggies...
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 23 2009 at 17:29
Atavachron wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
^But who placed pressure to include that piece of gibberish Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, which is the track that seriously affects the intergrity of the album?
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Obladi Oblada and Yellow Submarine are bland, ridiculous and less than mediocre music.
Iván |
Really? Maybe Yellow Submarine, but Ob La Di? Wasn't it all part of the fun and welcoming atmosphere of that record, an album dismissed by much of the press as 'unprofessional'. Might as well add Rocky Raccoon, Why Don't We Do it in the Road, Birthday, Honey Pie, Everybody's Got Something to Hide, Bungalow Bill, Piggies...
^ The first time I had the white album I taped it and it didn't all fit on one tape. So I had to decide to get rid of bits and it was Revolution no 9 that got the chop not Ob la di. However The juxtoposition of serious and frivolous is part of the charm. Its an album to me like The Wall or The Lamb that should be listened to as a whole even if I do find R No 9 hard work.
Skuse spelling! |
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