Led Zeppelin To Replace Robert Plant
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Topic: Led Zeppelin To Replace Robert Plant
Posted By: progmetalhead
Subject: Led Zeppelin To Replace Robert Plant
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 15:10
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 16:06
Then its not Led Zeppelin
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 16:14
Interesting. I'm 90% sure that Alter Bridge was the band that played at the 2005 All Star Game here in Detroit. They played 3 or 4 songs prior to the home run derby (I think). Useless comment since I don't remember that much about it. They were somehow related to Creed. I think after Creed broke up, 1 or 2 former Creed members formed Alter Bridge.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 16:54
rushfan4 wrote:
Interesting. I'm 90% sure that Alter Bridge was the band that played at the 2005 All Star Game here in Detroit. They played 3 or 4 songs prior to the home run derby (I think). Useless comment since I don't remember that much about it. They were somehow related to Creed. I think after Creed broke up, 1 or 2 former Creed members formed Alter Bridge. |
Actually, Alter Bridge are Creed without their singer Scott Stapp. But that's all I Know about them, which may say much on how good they were.
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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 22:59
With so much speculation since the O2 Arena concert last year, it's hard to give any credence to the many rumors that have been floating about. I've even heard "official announcements" on the classic rock radio channels that the band (including Robert Plant) has signed on for a spring/summer '09 tour. But of course, those were also just rumors.
No offense progmetalhead, but the source you provided is a blog... on Blogspot.com nonetheless. It has no authority on any major news in the music world and can only possibly provide info that is not "exclusive" news for that blog author.
In short, don't believe anything until you either see it as a story on Led Zeppelin's http://www.ledzeppelin.com/ - official site or see one of the very members of Led Zeppelin announce it at a press conference.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 23:08
Since Bonham was Zeppelin (in the first place and why they stopped soon after his death) , they can replace or replant whomever ......... Moby Dick , babe, see it live, you know what I mean
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:39
ClassicRocker wrote:
With so much speculation since the O2 Arena concert last year, it's hard to give any credence to the many rumors that have been floating about. I've even heard "official announcements" on the classic rock radio channels that the band (including Robert Plant) has signed on for a spring/summer '09 tour. But of course, those were also just rumors.
No offense progmetalhead, but the source you provided is a blog... on Blogspot.com nonetheless. It has no authority on any major news in the music world and can only possibly provide info that is not "exclusive" news for that blog author.
In short, don't believe anything until you either see it as a story on Led Zeppelin's http://www.ledzeppelin.com/ - official site or see one of the very members of Led Zeppelin announce it at a press conference.
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Have you seen the Dee Snider interview ? He shares a manager with Robert Plant, and has given the info that big money is on the table, and that page/jones are ready to go, with Plant or not.
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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:06
debrewguy, no I haven't seen it. Even assuming all of that is true, it still hasn't happened regardless of how much money is on the table and what Dee Snider and his manager say about Page/Plant being ready to go.
I haven't heard any statements from either of them yet, so I'm sticking to what I said before: this isn't 100% true unless a band member or the official website announces it. That is the only case in which it is definitely happening.
I, for one, hope it isn't true, because Zeppelin without Plant is not Zeppelin. Just in the way that Page/Plant sans Jones wasn't Led Zeppelin either.
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 09:57
Wow, this seems to be of real importance to some people! We even got two threads on the topic here in PA. Check this one out as well http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52157 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52157
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 19:21
ClassicRocker wrote:
debrewguy, no I haven't seen it. Even assuming all of that is true, it still hasn't happened regardless of how much money is on the table and what Dee Snider and his manager say about Page/Plant being ready to go.
I haven't heard any statements from either of them yet, so I'm sticking to what I said before: this isn't 100% true unless a band member or the official website announces it. That is the only case in which it is definitely happening.
I, for one, hope it isn't true, because Zeppelin without Plant is not Zeppelin. Just in the way that Page/Plant sans Jones wasn't Led Zeppelin either.
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The only weight I give to it is that Snider and Plant share the same manager, therefore the "inside information" that Plant has refused, and that Page/Jones still want to go. It does give pause to think that they may have second thoughts. Queen pulled it off with Paul Rodgers, but being the singer who replaced Scott Stapp as Creed's (reborn as AlterBridge) vocalist isn't really close to the status that Robert Plant has. And even with the two threads here at PA, I haven't seen any name singer that could stand up to scrutiny. My best guess would have been Sammy Hagar, but as good a fit as he might be, he's just not on the same level. Paul Rodgers had Free, Bad Company, and of much less standing - the Firm. And the new team with Queen happened to seem like a good fit, without being a rip off of Mercury's work with Queen. But I just can't see any of Sammy's songs, solo or Van Halen, that Zep could play that would stand up to their own masterpieces.
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 19:25
Hawkwise wrote:
Then its not Led Zeppelin
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Yeah, it wouldn't be Led Zeppelin even if Plant was there. He doesn't sound like he used to at all and, most of all, Bonham died a long time ago.
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: October 18 2008 at 03:14
Bern wrote:
Hawkwise wrote:
Then its not Led Zeppelin |
Yeah, it wouldn't be Led Zeppelin even if Plant was there. He doesn't sound like he used to at all and, most of all, Bonham died a long time ago.
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i agree, these re-incarnations of the bands as Led Zeppelin, The Who or Queen are tribute bands now. (awesome tribute bands, of course).
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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: October 19 2008 at 16:06
I saw The Who and Queen despite Rodger for getting the lyrics to Substitute and Freddy Mercury not being alive (which sucks because he's like ALL of Queen) they were both great.
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Posted By: MargusKiisEstonia
Date Posted: October 26 2008 at 11:58
There were actually two reasons why LZ disbanded in 1980: Jones found Bonham was unreplacable and Plant wanted really out of the band. Unlike others he hurried to start his solo career. Page wanted actually LZ to conitinue with Cozy Powell on drums. So, like 1980 Plant is not interested in working with egomaniac Page any more. History`s repeating.
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Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:23
As reported on BBC Radio Devon:
Jones, speaking at a guitar show in Exeter, Devon said: "We are trying out a couple of singers.
"We want to do it. It's sounding great and we want to get on and get out there."
He said that he and guitarist Jimmy Page along with drummer Jason Bonham did not want a replica of Plant.
He said: "It's got to be right. There's no point in just finding another Robert.
"You could get that out of a tribute band, but we don't want to be our own tribute band.
"There would be a record and a tour, but everyone has to be on board."
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 01:57
So the rumor is now that Steven Tyler has been jamming with the Led Zep guys?
Why don't they just get David Coverdale? He similar enough to Plant that he could make the songs sound like they should, but different enough that their would be his own touch on it. And his voice is still intact.
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Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 05:12
I salute them. The intensions of Robert Plant are not their problem. If they want to continue without him,when he reject it's only good for us,aren't we?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 05:55
MargusKiisEstonia wrote:
There were actually two reasons why LZ disbanded in 1980: Jones found Bonham was unreplacable and Plant wanted really out of the band. Unlike others he hurried to start his solo career. Page wanted actually LZ to conitinue with Cozy Powell on drums. So, like 1980 Plant is not interested in working with egomaniac Page any more. History`s repeating.
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This is highly questionable, I suspect based on dubious sources and speculation ..to assume Robert Plant "really wanted out of the band" simply because he released a solo album before the others (untrue by the way, as Jimmy Page's Death Wish ll soundtrack was released the same year Plant's solo debut, 1982) is sheer theory, and anyone who knows the band's history knows Plant and Bonham were the closest of the four members having known each other well before Zep formed.
..and Page is an egomaniac, huh. I see, of course he is, and Bonham is overrated, Jones was mediocre and Plant was a hack ..oh and they stole almost everything they played. Wonderful.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 06:48
Won't work. The thrill of Led Zeppelin was gone after I went through my ( brief ) Zeppelin phase in my teens. Like any other proposition such as this it's all about moneyf or the large corporations and it's the struggling new artists who pay the price. For christ sakes if you really care about music throw in the towel and give the budding artists their kick at the cat.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 17:02
Well, if Jones is true to his word, and some of it is of the "we're not going to play everything like we always did" nature, then it might work. But it has to fit with his "tribute" band comment, i.e. get a new singer and just play the same old songs the same old way, bring out the bow for Jimmy's solo, cloud up the stage for No Quarter, etc ... Funk it up, trash it out, acousticiasize some, whatever. Call yourself Zep to reflect the past, but only as the base for a new phase. And if Jones comes through like he did on In Through the Out Door, and Jimmy does more than w**k, a new singer could be the twist in the mix to make it worthwhile. Can it work ? Well, I loved the live album Paul Rodgers & Queen put out. Their new studio album, Cosmos Rocks, though, at best leaves me hoping they give it another try.
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 20:58
MargusKiisEstonia wrote:
There were actually two reasons why LZ disbanded in 1980: Jones found Bonham was unreplacable and Plant wanted really out of the band. Unlike others he hurried to start his solo career. Page wanted actually LZ to conitinue with Cozy Powell on drums. So, like 1980 Plant is not interested in working with egomaniac Page any more. History`s repeating. |
Let's not forget Page and Plant reunited in the 90s for 2 albums and seemed getting along! I saw their show in Miami in 95...was great even if Plant voice was already not to its old self anymore
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 21:16
So Plant doesn't want to tour???? Is it a reason good enough for the 3 others not to do it???
There is still a Bonham behind the drums who learned the tricks from dad, Jones and Page ,the heart of the band are there...
...Does anyone has listened to the ''mighty Rearranger '' from Plant... i've got it, it's a cool album but the voice????........If not for reading ''Robert Plant'' on the cover, you wouldn't know this is the same guy who sang ''Immigrant Song''
So if Led Zep brings a Coverdale, i don't mind...he still got more voice than Plant as of today!
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 21:18
I knew that Hatebeak dude (assuming the avian is a dude) had a future with Zep...
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 02 2008 at 22:08
Maybe Led Zeppelin could tour with Yes. Just a thought.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 10:08
Yeah but they don`t really have a singer either. Maybe they could just jam for two hours.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: November 03 2008 at 21:39
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Yeah but they don`t really have a singer either. Maybe they could just jam for two hours.
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After Page's half hour bow concerto, that just leaves an hour and a half. What if Yes wants to play Tales of Topographic Oceans in its' entirety ?
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 09:27
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Yeah but they don`t really have a singer either. Maybe they could just jam for two hours.
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That was my point. Get the two half-cover bands together.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 13:14
With a shrubbery?
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 19:51
I can't find the Jack Bruce thread... I might have hallucinated it, but if I didn't, hopefully, this next article wasn't the topic of it.
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=led_zeppelin_you_re_crap - http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=led_zeppelin_you_re_crap
But it is an interesting read... what Jack Bruce thinks of Led Zep, let's just say that "What? You’re gonna compare Eric Clapton with that f**king Jimmy Page? " isn't the meanest thing he said...
I love both LZ and Cream, by the way...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 19:54
June wrote:
I can't find the Jack Bruce thread... |
this the one? forum_posts.asp?TID=52674 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52674
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: November 04 2008 at 20:56
Atavachron wrote:
June wrote:
I can't find the Jack Bruce thread... |
this the one? forum_posts.asp?TID=52674 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52674
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Awesome! Thanks!
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 16:29
Still nothing happening. John has a new Them Crooked Vultures album in his schedule, and now this:
Robert Plant has reformed Band of Joy — a ’60s group that predated Led Zeppelin by two years and featured John Bonham on drums — with the addition of vocalist Patty Griffith, multi-instrumentalist Darrell Scott, guitarist/co-producer Buddy Miller, drummer Marco Giovino, and bassist Byron House. The revised band will tour this summer and release an album in the fall. Another record with Alison Krauss is also in the works, although the two reportedly won’t start on the project until next year. http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/03/26/robert-plants-new-band-of-joy-plot-lp-summer-tour/ - http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2010/03/26/robert-plants-new-band-of-joy-plot-lp-summer-tour/
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 23:39
Hawkwise wrote:
Then its not Led Zeppelin |
What he said way back when.................like trying to chnage a vintage wine
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: April 15 2010 at 00:38
Zep would have remained huge in the 80s if they had just carried on with Cozy Powell instead of John Bonham. But perhaps the albums may have declined in quality, so its for the best that they only made 8 great studio albums (I can see why people dislike Presence and In Through The Out Door, but I like even those ones) and left it at that.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 15 2010 at 04:11
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. In the age of the Internet, the band's can't just sit at home and be inactive for decades and collecting the royalties of record sales. That's way 'impossible' reunions happened, like The Police, The Sex Pistols, Queen with Paul Rogers. That's way bands that fell in obscurity have to tour to survive: even in my godforsaken hometown, artists like Tony Hadley (of Spandau Ballet), Blaze Bayley (of Iron Maiden) and even Saxon are performing...not on stadiums, but in local, smallish venues.
That being said, any collaboration of Zep member(s) plus any half-known musician/singer from the Classic Rock era is possible...why not? They can even produce something that's remotely decent, like that Coverdale/Page album.
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Posted By: EatThatPhonebook
Date Posted: April 22 2010 at 14:22
They should have quit years ago.
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: April 22 2010 at 15:42
Is it really even Zeppelin then? No Bonham, no Plant, and it seems JPJ has been pushed to the shadows for so long that he has absolutely no input anyway.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 22 2010 at 16:58
EatThatPhonebook wrote:
They should have quit years ago. |
They did
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