Dream Theater back in studio, again!
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Topic: Dream Theater back in studio, again!
Posted By: CCVP
Subject: Dream Theater back in studio, again!
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 15:09
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Apparently, after their world tour, Dream Theater immediately got in the studio to record a new album, just like they have been doing since Scenes from a Memory. The firsts news come from Jordan Rudess's web site: http://www.jordanrudess.com/jr/ (click on Wizard's Log). Lets hope for the best!!!!!!!!!! The funniest thing is to check how they are getting old. Mike is growing a freaking gut and gray hair and Petrucci looks like a middle aged biker, lol.  -------------   
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 15:16
| Just can't get excited about this like I used to. Expectations will be fairly low I'm afraid. Probably will still obtain the new album once it's released, though. |
Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:38
| I hope for a good release. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:44
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Uh-huh. where's this news again?
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 05:41
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Systematic Chaos was a very good album, a giant step up fomr the lame-ish Octogenarian.
I'm quite optimistic.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 05:50
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If the next album is anything less than amazing, then that I wont bother buying any more Dream Theater studio albums after that. In fact, I wont buy the next album without listening to it first (because I will have DT fanboy friends that will buy it) anyway. I don't like to have to say that about one of the bands that got me into prog, but unfortunately the last two albums were far from being truly inspiring and because of that, for prog and metal releases in the last few year years I tend to listen to other bands instead. I don't expect the next album to be particularly great either.. again, something I hate to say for the band that released some of my favorite prog metal albums ever in the form of I&W and SFAM. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 06:31
Oh, come on people, lets have a bit of optimism, please!! I'm always happy to hear they've returned to the studio, but then I'm an unashamed, 40 year old DT fan-boy.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 06:50
Same here J, albeit slightly older but better looking!  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 Colt - Admin Team MMA 
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fandango wrote:Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 06:59
i was hopeful for Octavarium... it sucked with the exception of the first and last tracks. I cannot really even listen to that album anymore, except maybe Root Of All Evil and Octavarium once every 2 months or so. I waited another 2 years for Systematic Chaos. It was not really worth the wait, they could have just easily done that album 2 weeks after Octavarium rather than releasing something quite average like that. I barely listen to SC anymore either, I can think of so many 2007 releases that were so much more inventive, inspiring and left me wanting more. It's hard to be optimistic when a band managed to disappoint me several years consecutively with studio albums. Hell, I understand your post was being a bit on the fun side, but still  -------------
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 07:39
each to their own, Hughes.... I would agree that 2007 was almost certainly the strongest year ever in terms of quality PM offerings with at least 20 highly respectible releases, but for me there was no one release I heard which stood out as being a total masterpiece. That said, and for what its worth, I'll print you off my Top 20, just so you can see what I thought about the year...
I would just say that in addition to hearing SC copious amounts of times, I also caught them live twice... the shows were completely awesome.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 08:29
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YES! That means new tour, finish to the AA suite (full AA suite live), possibility for more meet & greet oppurtunities. I'm probably the most excited out of any of you ------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 11:57
Oh my god, it's not ever yet?? As much as I am highly excited about a new DT album so soon I don't think I could sit through another installment of that song, it's getting very tiring. Although I did think that Systematic Chaos was their best album since Six Degrees!  |
Posted By: yorkiemarillion
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 12:55
| For me, Octavarium was the best recent DT album - it was the only one that showed the full range of their material - light to dark, dark to light. Systematic Chaos and Train of Thought were both a bit unvaried and heavy for me. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 13:40
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oh, damn you all! I like all DT releases, except Falling Into Infinity, which is quite boring. Though it took me a wile to get into SC, i now like it very much. In fact, the only sub-par DT "recent" release is Train of Thought.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 14:50
 Don't damn me! I'm with you, except I even enjoy Falling Into Infinity -------------
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 15:15
and I enjoy them all *except* FII...I'm afraid...  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 15:19
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I enjoy FII a fair amount. Less than many other DT releases, surely, but still a fair amount. It's Train of Thought that gets me a bit derailed sometimes. Enjoyable, but hardly memorable (IMO!!!). But DT certainly does have some killer albums . Personally, I hope the new album is in the SC style...
although I hope they change it a little bit, because I know a lot of
critics who will have their heads if they don't.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 15:48
Nice list ... here's mine:  Feel free to rate your favorites of 2007 (or any other year) at Progfreak ... you can create a similar chart simply by replacing the user name in the image url.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to: 
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 15:57
^^^
that's a great list Mike...you tend to listen to more albums than I do, and a wider variety of Prog Metal as well...
 of course, its all subjective, but I'm slightly surprised that there is no SUE or Darkwater on the list, and I never thought you'd have a Therion album at No 8!!
 you do deserve a thumbs up for that....  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 16:43
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^ here's the full list of albums from 2007 which I listened to: http://progfreak.com/_dbe,users,_auto_4948817.xhtml?chart.year=2007&list.display=ratings_complex&path=charts - http://progfreak.com/_dbe,users,_auto_4948817.xhtml?chart.year=2007&list.display=ratings_complex&path=charts BTW: Unfortunately I never got my hands on SUE or Darkwater ... there's so much to listen to!  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to:
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 16:52
^^ you *might* find them a little generic for your tastes, Mike...but as you know I'm quite conservative, and they were both right up my street...
as it is, my list will no doubt change, as I've just bought Sieges Even: Paramount from 2007, which will no doubt find its way on to the lower reaches of that list...  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 16:58
To join in on the fun and games this is how Mike's website told me I rated my favorite 2007 metal albums:
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:10
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^^some great choices there, Scott....
(and I see Scarsick was at the bottom of your list, too...
..although it was toughing it out with Ghost Opera on mine...)anyway, back on topic....
I for one have a tremendous amount of optimism for Prog Metal releases in 2009, and DT are as always, right at the top of the pile when it comes to inspiring me with optimism...
not only for an album, but another UK tour...(back off topic, Circus Maximus are also working on new material for a 2009 release...can't wait.... )------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:13
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^ nice! I don't know Countdown or Blind Blossom ... seem to be a bit rare, can't find them on Amazon, CDBaby or eMusic. Sometimes those artists make it difficult for us listeners ...
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:16
sometimes I guess its down to distribution rights Mike, and if an album has been self produced, it can be rather difficult to get hold of...I had quite a job getting Suspyre: The Silvery Image for quite a while... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:20
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^ I got that one from CDBaby ... of course you're right, it's not always the fault of the band. But they should try to sell the album on those platforms ... make it a priority. By the way, Blind Blossom offer the album for free on their website ... I just added a sample link.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:26
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Countdown is actually available for free download on Jamundo. I've found a couple of decent albums on that website. I suggested them for inclusion on PA and I'm pretty sure I have a link to the album in that thread, so you might want to do a search here in PA.
EDIT: In case anyone is interested, I'll make your task easier by attaching a link to the PA thread which has the links here. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50770&KW=countdown&PID=2925983#2925983 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50770&KW=countdown&PID=2925983#2925983 -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 17:29
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^ I should add Jamundo links to PF ... that's what the website should be for (among dozens of other things).
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 19:13
DT always change every time they put out an album. I&W is different from When Dream and Day Unite, Awake is different from I&W and so on. In fact, the most probable thing is the release of a completely different album. -------------
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Posted By: mizzin
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 20:28
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CHOAOS is good, I just hope they don't do something like marillion :D
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 06:17
Nice list  I didn't realize you were going to make a list of just "pure" prog metal. If I were to make a list, it would have included stuff from Tech/Extreme Prog Metal combined with Prog metal too. Admittedly, nowadays I cannot stand listening to pure prog metal/power metal or any of the melodic metal genres non stop. I have to mix it up with more dissonant stuff (just more death metalish stuff really) with vocal styles other than clean vocals, otherwise I get bored. I guess that's a reason why perhaps some of Dream Theater's latest outings weren't that inspiring.. they just seemed too willing to stick to melodicism and not see what they could do with dissonance and atonality, which would have really expanded their options. I mean, sure enough Systematic Chaos had some pretty good songs, such as ITPOE PT 1 and 2, TDEN, TMOLS, but the only song that was truly excellent and inspiring is Repentence because it didn't come off as rehashed sounding as the other songs. Constant Motion, Forksaken, PoW...blah, boring as hell quite frankly. I see a lot of bands moving forward and changing their sound constantly without compromising on artistic integrity, but to be honest, Dream Theater haven't seemed to be moving forward for years now, too much of their recent output has sounded like "They have already covered this ground before" material. Some people don't mind if a band doesn't really progress much.. that's fine. Other's like to see big changes in leaps and bounds. Many people didn't like ToT... I loved it personally, because it showed great progression in the band's technical abilties, it had songs that sounded nothing like they did previously and it was also an album that would fit into Tech/Extreme Prog metal (Due to the thrash metal and groove metal sounds occuring in the album) as much as it does Prog Metal. I didn't care that the album was "less progressive" than the previous albums. What it lacked in apparent "progressiveness" it made up for in showing the band could still improve on their skills and a band that was willing to try something daring and different and not care if it alienated previous fans. The problem is, the progression in that album, to the non musician, is more subtle than the inherent "lack of progression", but it did show a band moving forward. Unfortunately, IMO, that was the bands's last studio album that truly captured my imagination and truly inspired me. And yes, I saw DT live in February this year.... amazing concert and was definitely worth saving up money for -------------
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 08:55
Good post, Hughes...
I completely understand where you are coming from. I guess I'm more of a traditionalist; I like melody with my metal and my list is entirely representative of the music I enjoy and support. Personally, the Tech stuff is a complete turn off; its just not the reason why I listen to music...but hey, different strokes.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 09:46
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Have a look at my 2007 top 25 I posted on my blog today J.
Our tastes are even closer than you thought.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 09:59
It's a very strong list, Steve...
(btw, its God's Equation, not Creation...)I do have to admit that the Myrath is still on my shopping list....
however we'll never be blood brothers until you start listening to some Therion... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: October 11 2008 at 10:06
*rofl*
I have been reading views and opinions between Creationists and Evolutionists this morning and obviously got more than confused!
I will make a real effort to listen to some Therion this weekend, I promise!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 Colt - Admin Team MMA
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 03:57
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hell yeah, updated photos!
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Posted By: Treasure
Date Posted: October 13 2008 at 19:06
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I'm hoping for the best but getting ready for the worst. I am still seeing them live for sure and I hope they bring Protest The Hero on their Prog Nation tour. AND THEY BETTER COME TO TORONTO FOR THE PROG NATION TOUR THIS TIME. ------------- 
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: November 28 2008 at 18:00
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ok, bumping thread because of this PORTNOY news: he just finished recording the drums of DT's upcoming album. Check his forum! http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2190508 - http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.asp -------------
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Posted By: Proggg
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 12:37
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I hope the new DT album is good, I have high expectations for highly talented musicians. Also, new album means new tour (hopefully). I might get to see DT live!!! ------------- A windstorm dropped a bird from the sky It fell to the ground and it's wings broke and died But when the time got by, back to sky it flied cause the wings healed in time and the bird was I-Wintersun |
Posted By: BenB2112
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 05:48
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Personally, I can never get enough of Dream Theater. Though some of their albums tend to wax and wane, with good, great and average stuff, on the whole I find enough in each album to keep me interested. I do, however, think that since the advent of the Petrucci/Portnoy productions, there has been a certain bias towards their songs, to the detriment of other members, and also poor John Myung and Jordan Rudess have been somewhat lost in the mix. I think this has contributed to some of the inconsistent quality of their recent works. Production quality could be a whole other forum topic though, and that's not what this thread is about. All that said, I always look forward to a new DT release, as the moments of brilliance, and innovation excite me beyond some of the formulaic compositions that fill the gaps in between songs. Everyone has their favourite albums, songs, moments. DT is not the be-all and end-all of prog rock/metal bands, and I haven't got the time or the energy to explore everything that's out there, but I find it's their music that remains on high rotation on my PC, car stereo and sound system. So anything new is obviously of great interest to me. Which is not to say I don't listen to other stuff, like Porcupine Tree, Ayreon,, and other non-prog artists like Chris Cornell (arguably one of the great rock vocalists), A Perfect Circle, Tool, and a host of other more mainstream stuff. We live in an age where there is so much variety in music, with the accessibility of the internet for downloading, I feel like I'm in musical heaven. "Who would wish this on their people ... all praise their sacrificied sons" ------------- Ben2112 |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 05:54
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Won't be getting this, and I'm not really excited at all...
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 06:19
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What, , that's why the albums since six degrees are so mediocre. Why they don't do like for ex Shadow Gallery, rare but strong and great better than often and bad.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:48
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This is old news guys. Their tour is still going. Someone bumped a thread from last year. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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