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Topic: Robert Plant - replaced by an American
Posted By: debrewguy
Subject: Robert Plant - replaced by an American
Date Posted: September 28 2008 at 23:45
So with the Led Zeppelin reunion tour now on, here's the big question :
Who was the American singer that Page and Jones were considering as a replacement ?
And how long will it take to find out ?
I would bet on Sammy Hagar as being the only "credible" one in the whole country. Not because he matches Plant's stature, but in the sense that he has enough talent vocally speaking to get the job done. Van Hagar used to sing a few Zep tunes, and I remember some music news which indicated that Sammy and Page or Plant knew each other  on more than just a professional basis.
Whaddy'all think ???

Lou Gramm ?


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 02:22
Wait what? Zeppelin reunion but no Plant? Screw that. Especially if he's replaced by Gramm or Hagar. YUCK.   Might as well go see Paul Rodgers and Queen. No I don't even want to do that!


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 02:27
Uh, I think he was talking hypothetically


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 02:40
Sammy's great and would do a fine job, but I don't think his tone would work with Zep material.. if I were Page and Jones I'd go with some unknown kid




Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 07:25
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Wait what? Zeppelin reunion but no Plant? Screw that. Especially if he's replaced by Gramm or Hagar. YUCK.   Might as well go see Paul Rodgers and Queen. No I don't even want to do that!


It seems that Plant changed his mind about doing a Led Zep tour because Page & Jones were considering an American singer to take Plant's place. So Plant now says, I'm on.
But who is that mystery American Singer that Jimmy & John Paul would have taken on board ?


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 08:31
Led Zep without Plant? No way.


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 09:25
I might have thought that they would consider Lenny Wolf from the German metal band Kingdom Come.  Their early albums sounded remarkably like Led Zeppelin and he sound quite a lot like Robert Plant.  Interestingly, he claimed that he wasn't familiar with Led Zeppelin when questioned about the similarities.  I always found that part hard to believe and he might have said it tongue in cheek.
 
My guess for the American singer would be Chris Robinson from The Black Crowes.  Jimmy Page toured with them a few years back and they did quite a few Led Zeppelin songs on that tour.


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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 10:47
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I might have thought that they would consider Lenny Wolf from the German metal band Kingdom Come.  Their early albums sounded remarkably like Led Zeppelin and he sound quite a lot like Robert Plant.  Interestingly, he claimed that he wasn't familiar with Led Zeppelin when questioned about the similarities.  I always found that part hard to believe and he might have said it tongue in cheek.
 
You mean Kingdom Clone?


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 11:01
Yep, one and the same. LOL

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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 11:57
Could always go back to the singer Page originally pencilled in as lead singer before Plant was recommended, Terry Reid....

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 12:23
No Percy, No Zep!



^ that's a very stern face indeed...

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 13:15
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I might have thought that they would consider Lenny Wolf from the German metal band Kingdom Come.  Their early albums sounded remarkably like Led Zeppelin and he sound quite a lot like Robert Plant.  Interestingly, he claimed that he wasn't familiar with Led Zeppelin when questioned about the similarities.  I always found that part hard to believe and he might have said it tongue in cheek.
 
My guess for the American singer would be Chris Robinson from The Black Crowes.  Jimmy Page toured with them a few years back and they did quite a few Led Zeppelin songs on that tour.


I would have been surprised with Lenny Wolf. Page got enough flak for his Coverdale/Page project (or Coveract as he was called at the time for his ability to ape Plant's singing).
Robinson would be a surprise too, as the Crowes just released an album this year and are looking to re-conquer their place on the music scene.


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 13:17
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Could always go back to the singer Page originally pencilled in as lead singer before Plant was recommended, Terry Reid....


Ah, but is Reid american ? That's what the only clue so far that identifies the once prospective replacement.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 13:35
Obviously, there's none on earth that can out-plant Plant like Whitesnake's David Coverdale...

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 18:22
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Wait what? Zeppelin reunion but no Plant? Screw that. Especially if he's replaced by Gramm or Hagar. YUCK.   Might as well go see Paul Rodgers and Queen. No I don't even want to do that!

Exactly


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 18:27
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Obviously, there's none on earth that can out-plant Plant like Whitesnake's David Coverdale...


David has "changed" his AMAZING blues-rock voice to a cheap copy of Robert Plant, which I'm no huge fan of his voice.

Good choices would be Geddy Lee or Budgie's vocalist, though I'm sure Jimmy and John weren't considering them


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 29 2008 at 18:33
when Page toured Outrider he had a good singer that could really hit those highs, mighta been Chris Farlowe




Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 03:16

how about this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOV7kAGt1vs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOV7kAGt1vs


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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 03:20
how about this guy who sings in this coca cola comercial LOL
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JLrrgQpjo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JLrrgQpjo


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 06:35
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Could always go back to the singer Page originally pencilled in as lead singer before Plant was recommended, Terry Reid....


Ah, but is Reid american ? That's what the only clue so far that identifies the once prospective replacement.
 
Californian resident for 30 years - could be naturalised?


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 07:56
Zep without Plant is a no no for me, I'm afraid. I dont care who replaces him.


Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 10:03
On the ABCnews forum people were discussing it might be Steven Tyler Shocked

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 14:03
Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

On the ABCnews forum people were discussing it might be Steven Tyler Shocked


To quote the butthole surfers - Hairway to Stephen Tongue


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 14:05
Plant's come out to say that the reunion was never on ??? So we may still find out who the mystery american is ...
Isn't William Hung american LOL


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 30 2008 at 15:27
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Obviously, there's none on earth that can out-plant Plant like Whitesnake's David Coverdale...


David has "changed" his AMAZING blues-rock voice to a cheap copy of Robert Plant, which I'm no huge fan of his voice.

Good choices would be Geddy Lee or Budgie's vocalist, though I'm sure Jimmy and John weren't considering them


Geddy only comes into play if Jones decides that Zep without Plant isn't Zep. Then Page would be able to replace two guys by one.


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 02 2008 at 16:45
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

No Percy, No Zep!



^ that's a very stern face indeed...


Seconded 100 %


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 10:36
I just saw Plant / Krauss last week. Unreal. Battle of Evermore was bone chilling. As was a very interesting rendition of "In the Mood"
 
Plant is one of the last living demigods of rock. He commanded the stage in a way that only Etta James and Gilmour have in my concert going experience (obviously those three do so in very different ways).
 
Pagey and Jones pulling a Journey would be beyond pathetic. Page has been a shell of the man who inspired most of my guitar playing for a long time.


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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 23:01
Forget about Lou Gramm as i saw his name mentioned before.
I watched a 2005 DVD from Foreigner,     he is cooked , he is not healthy, .......and he can't sing anymore.Even Foreigner is touring with a new singer nowadays!


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 23:03
.......and frankly can you imagine an encore with a medley Whole lotta love/Hot blooded???LOL


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 04 2008 at 23:10
I reckon that lead vocalist from Jane's Addiction would have done a great job - Perry Farrell

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 00:52
Another band bites the dust. They're up there on the over familiarity scale anyway. Glad that Plant is following more mature avenues in his advancing years. I guess there's enough unadventurous pigeons out there who never tire of hearing Stairway To Heaven, Kashmir or Rock 'n Roll over and over and over and over and over and over and ver and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. They've run their course. Don't get me wrong I've always been a fan and the reunion lived up to my expectations. It also looks like Yes is a dead horse as well. Again, I'm a big fan of the earlier material but I think they made a big mistake with all those live DVDs and CDs. O      V       E      L     O       A        D.

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 12:56
I would suggest that if Page & Jones (let's say the obvious, Jason Bonham is the drummer's son, not a member of led zep), do decide to go out as Led Zeppelin, that they present it as Queen did - Paul Rodgers AND Queen. May & Taylor have every right to lay claim to the name, but are honest enough not to place Rodgers as Mercury's replacement. Which is something they've explained in the interviews I've read. Even in the set list, there's a mix of all their musical history, plus a few new songs.
So if Zep does choose a new singer, please let it be someone with enough success behind him that Page & Jones can play a few of the singer's songs without it coming across as second tier material and filler.
I mentioned Sammy Hagar at the beginning. I won't claim he is of the same status as Rodgers outside the U.S. . But there are surely a few tunes in his back catalogue (solo and Montrose, including the Van Hagar days), that P & J could play without shame. Not to say that they equal Zep's best, just that there are some pretty good tunes on there (and no, When It's Love is not what I mean).
I'm sure there would be a backlash by some, but many would be happy to hear the old LZ tunes once more.
Just make sure that it's not billed as a reunion, nor THE led zep.



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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 13:09
Perhaps if they replace Page and Jones too, I might actually like Led Zeppelin.  Wink
 
Usually I don't like it when bands replace a key member with an outsider.  For example, Queen has been mentioned.  I wish May & Taylor had carried on as Queen (or as Smile for that matter) without bringing in Paul Rodgers.  May and Taylor are perfectly capable of handling all the vocals (neither of them are slouches in that department) and of course, they could still bring in Edney on keys and Miranda on bass (although Deacon coming back would have been really cool).  But why add an ousider to the band for a key role like lead singer/major composer?  I do have to give them credit though for at least calling attention to the fact that there's an outsider in the band by calling it "Queen & Paul Rodgers". 
 
One time it did work though, was when The Cars came back without Ric Ocasek and, of course, the sadly departed Ben Orr, and replaced Ric with Todd Rundgren.  I didn't think it would work, but after listening to the CD, I was quite pleasantly surprised. 
 
Of course, I don't really like the mighty Zeppelin that much.  A couple of songs were decent, "Battle of Evermore", "No Quarter" and probably one or two others.  But overall, not a big fan.  However, I think it would be very disappointing for fans to see Led Zeppelin without Plant being there. 


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 05 2008 at 13:32
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Perhaps if they replace Page and Jones too, I might actually like Led Zeppelin.  Wink
 
Usually I don't like it when bands replace a key member with an outsider.  For example, Queen has been mentioned.  I wish May & Taylor had carried on as Queen (or as Smile for that matter) without bringing in Paul Rodgers.  May and Taylor are perfectly capable of handling all the vocals (neither of them are slouches in that department) and of course, they could still bring in Edney on keys and Miranda on bass (although Deacon coming back would have been really cool).  But why add an ousider to the band for a key role like lead singer/major composer?  I do have to give them credit though for at least calling attention to the fact that there's an outsider in the band by calling it "Queen & Paul Rodgers". 
 
One time it did work though, was when The Cars came back without Ric Ocasek and, of course, the sadly departed Ben Orr, and replaced Ric with Todd Rundgren.  I didn't think it would work, but after listening to the CD, I was quite pleasantly surprised. 
 
Of course, I don't really like the mighty Zeppelin that much.  A couple of songs were decent, "Battle of Evermore", "No Quarter" and probably one or two others.  But overall, not a big fan.  However, I think it would be very disappointing for fans to see Led Zeppelin without Plant being there. 


With the Cars, I felt that it was a bit much. How do you call yourself the Cars without the main (like 99%) songwriter ? Here in Canada, Jim Kale owns the Guess Who name. Why ? Because he was the last original member or that once Burton Cummings left, Kale went out and trademarked it. So only he can authorize its' use a band name. SO now he's out there touring the boonies as the Guess Who, and Cummings Bachman tour under their moniker due to this "legal" matter. Burton & Randy had tried for another reunion to no avail, and had asked for permission to use the name, but Kale asked for an outrageous amount of money in return.
In this case though, the "franchise" name wasn't important as the fans came out in drove to see the actual brains behind the band, no matter what name they were touring as.


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 03:00
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Led Zep without Plant? No way.
 
The Doors go on without Morrison.....and Densmore. i don't like it if they do go out their on a tour without Plant. It wouldn't feel right no matter who they found.
 
Roger Daltry????? Roger and Peter aren't getting along these days. Could Roger pull it off?


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:33
All these guys should buy islands and take up archery, lawn bowling or croquet. Gentle Giant, now that`s something. Never happen though.

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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: October 09 2008 at 19:49
Just saw this, new vocalist is Myles R Kennedy of Alter Bridge
Wonder if its true?
Scroll down
http://blog.muchmusic.com/ - http://blog.muchmusic.com/


Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 10 2008 at 07:19
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

Just saw this, new vocalist is Myles R Kennedy of Alter Bridge
Wonder if its true?
Scroll down
http://blog.muchmusic.com/ - http://blog.muchmusic.com/

Just read that. it seems that Plant's manager is also Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) manager. And that Bobby has turned down a ton of money, with Zep to tour with Myles Kennedy.
So the other three guys in Alter Bridge, who used to be in Creed, have lost a second lead singer.


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Date Posted: October 15 2008 at 09:59
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