Any people recording at home here?
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Topic: Any people recording at home here?
Posted By: Anaon
Subject: Any people recording at home here?
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 04:49
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Hi everyone! I thought it could be interesting to talk about home studio here and above all, prog oriented home studio. We could share pictures of our dens, share good gear tips and of course, sound samples! More and more bands are recording at home nowdays and sound quality's getting better and better. How do you feel about it? Do you record yourself your own music and how? Let's talk about it  ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 04:54
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I'll post pictures later, but there is already many pics of my guitar in the thread where you post pics of your instruments if you want to see. I use a Behringer V-Amp 2 guitar pre amp/amp modeller/multi effect unit. Admittedly, at best it sounds 80 per cent as good as the real deal tube amp, but for home practicing it's fine, and you can dial in decent tones. I use direct line in recording (bearing in mind the V-amp 2 is a few years old now, no USB capability) and get pretty good tones. Hopefully I can upgrade to a more expensive and higher quality guitar pre amp modelling unit for better sound quality and obtain better results. No sound clips for now, but I can post some up later. I have managed to obtain fairly tube amp sounding recordings with the V-Amp2, so it's a pretty good unit for the price. ------------- 
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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:01
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Hi! I like both amp modeling and real amp recording, I don't think one is best than the other, it's just different somtimes. I never used a Vamp but I own a Jstation which is really great too, with fantastic clean sounds! But actually, I record my tube amp, it's more difficult but the sound is different, but most of all, it's a different kind of feeling when we play... Anyway, pictures would be welcome :) ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:12
Well, I recorded my latest sonic work with my digital camera and an
unplugged and somewhat untuned strat copy. The mic was surprisingly
good for the job, it even caught the sounds of cars from my open
window! 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:13
Well you can find pics of the V-Amp2 on the net obviously but I also run it through a hi fi system when practicing, so I guess I can take photos of the V-amp2 together with the stereo and my effect pedals if you desire.The problem is when running modeling units through guitar amps is, most guitar amp speakers have a ceiling frequency range of 5KHz to 5.5KHz and usually the low frequencies start from 70-80Hz on average. I believe Line 6 use full range speakers in some of their amps though:) . Modeling units are usually full frequency, so you actually get more realistic results running it through a hi fi system, a PA system or keyboard amp (basically anything that can go from 20Hz to 20Khz, Full Range Full Frequency (FRFR). When I bought the V-amp2 I told the guys in the music store I intended to run it through a full frequency system (because the V-amp 2 goes all the way up to 16KHz, which is obviously way higher than what guitar amp speakers can produce. He told me he had never heard of people using them in anything other than guitar amps. I hate it when people are ignorant about things like that, it leads to bad advice sometimes. I've tried my V-Amp2 through a guitar amp, and I didn't like it. It sounds a bit muffled and more digital and less realistic. I've heard good things about the J Station btw, but my dream Modeling unit is the Fractal Audio Axe FX. Check it out on the new, incredible unit and every person that owns one that used to previously own a Line 6, Boss, Behringer V-amp 2 etc modeling unit says nothing comes as close to the Axe FX when recreating tube tone as good as possible. Some people actually prefer the Axe Fx to their real tube amps because of greater tweakability. -------------
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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:25
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Yes you're right about the Vamp sound on PA system, it's because it's a preamp above all, so it doesn't work well on a guitar amp. I didn't know the Fractal Audio Axe FX but it seems quite expensive... ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 13:44
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*raises hand*
I record at home. Well...at least at my grandmother's home. I'm in a band with my cousin. I play drums/percussion/keys and he plays bass/effects/keys. He has a kick ass little recording device that really picks up the sound well...even in a basement (which is where we record). I don't know the name of it (ain't mine  ) but it's pretty sweet. It picks up sounds from the upstairs, can have a ridiculous amount of different tracks, and (seeminly) has a really good memory system (at least it has almost everything we've done still on it...which is about 5 hrs worth of material). I'll see if I can get a name of this device next time we record. Also, picture of our sound space/listening samples will appear in the next post.------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 13:48
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=40454752&id=8847610">
 This is it. Highly technologically advanced. Also, a bad picture. My cousin has many effects that can't be seen here. This is also slightly outdated. We've added more percussion/effects since this being taken.
As for listenings:
The myspace link in my sig. And also: http://www.virb.com/thetheomniscient - http://www.virb.com/thethe
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: August 29 2008 at 13:49
Is this a hard disk driver? I used to own one, it was quite good, easier than computer indeed :) ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Man With Hat wrote:Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 07:23
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Interesting picture indeed!! :) It makes me think of the Flower Kings percussionnist ;) Some pictures of my "home studio":   ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 12:43
I see so many people with the "Big Muff" but I've never actually used it myself. How is it?
Also, very, very, very, very, very nice pictures  . ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 12:49
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I just recently started to record music again ... I use: 1. Guitar: ESP Horizon NT-II 2. Interface/Midi-Keyboard: Line6 KB37 3. Amp: Line6 Gearbox 4. Recording software: Ableton Live 7 Suite I'll also get a cheap bass and a decent microphone ... then my setup will be complete. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: August 30 2008 at 13:23
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Great to see more people here :) Thanks for the pictures ;) The Big Muff is a really classic distortion pedal but it has a sound on its own, it's nearly a fuzz pedal, a really dirty distortion if you know what I mean. David Gilmour used an original one but it's David Gilmour and it sounds beautiful! You can find on Youtube a lot of Big Muff videos :) ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 15:17
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I use a Fender Jazz Bass through my pedalboard--a MoogerFooger Ring Mod, Gallien-Krueger bass distortion, Morley Wah/Volume pedal, Boss Space-Echo delay, and Boss Loop Station (the twin one)--and then I put the output of the pedalboard in a splitter and send one half to an amp so I can hear what I'm doing and the other half into the line in in my computer. I record with Audacity, because it's free and easy and since I do most things in one take I don't really need many features. You can hear my stuff http://www.myspace.com/jakereidtotheextreme - here . -------------   |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 31 2008 at 15:37
Thanks alot  -------------
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 01:57
It's not really to do with the fact it's a preamp........... it's to do with the fact it's an amp modeling preamp. A guitar preamp, for example, a tube Mesa Boogie Traxis, is generally designed to be run with another guitar tube power amp, perhaps a Mesa Boogie Recto 2:100 or Marshall EL34-100/100 (or well, whatever tube preamp/power amp set up that captures your fancy, you get the point). These will all work and are really designed to work with a normal guitar cabinet, because of the guitar speakers frequency range of about 70Hz-5.5KHz. Or just an amplifier in general, which has a combined preamp and poweramp, like any combo amp or guitar amp head, which also matches well to a guitar speaker. As I stated above, modeling preamps go above 5.5KHz. The frequency range is determined by dividing the sampling rate of the unit by half, (Nyquist's Theorem, although I only understand the basics and wont pretend to know anymore than that, I'm no scientist by any means, look it up in Wikipedia or a physics book or something :D). My V-Amp2 has a sampling rate of 31.250KHz, so the frequency range is from 20Hz to 15.625KHz. The Fractal Audio Axe FX Standard/Ultra, goes even higher and can produce the whole 20Hz to 20KHz spectrum, and possibly more. The point is, a full frequency full range speaker can produce all of those frequencies and help the modeler to sound more realistic, which is why I recommend against using the amp modeling feature of amp modelers in normal guitar amps, and just use the effects section of the modeler instead  -------------
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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 07:18
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Hi! Yes I know about what you stated. But all in all, a preamp into another preamp (any guitar amp has a preamp) isn't really the best thing to do... Anyway, any other home recorder who submitted his album to PA maybe? ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 07:19
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Speaking of home recording, I'm about to record something now
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Posted By: Anaon
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 08:01
Please tell me more I'm actually mixing my first album, it takes so much times!! ------------- My music: http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://spleenarcana.bandcamp.com/ My blog: http://groovesandmemories.com/" rel="nofollow - http://groovesandmemories.com/ |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 08:02
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http://www.4shared.com/file/61433163/31f78b65/Slopfest.html - Slopfest.mp3 Somewhat neo-classical, with a an Yngwie Malmsteen/neo-classical shred vibe to it. A bit of sloppiness in there though 
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: September 02 2008 at 21:48
Very nice job Harry
.A good intro to something. -------------
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Posted By: Jazzsta
Date Posted: September 14 2008 at 11:40
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Hey guys! I'm completely burned out from home recording. This is my last work: http://www.last.fm/music/Jazzsta/Time%2B%2526%2BDeath%2B%255BApril%2B2008%255D%20 - Jazzsta - Time & Death I use quite cheap stuff. But still I think I deliver the meaning... ------------- PLATO RULES! |
Posted By: mr70s
Date Posted: October 02 2008 at 17:22
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I looked at the Fractal, and downloaded a few samples from the user's forum. To my ears it still has that digital signature. I've no doubt that this technology will continue to improve, but I don't think valve amp manufacturers are going to be too worried.....yet. Originally posted by HughesJB4
http://www.4shared.com/file/61433163/31f78b65/Slopfest.html - Slopfest.mp3 Somewhat neo-classical, with a an Yngwie Malmsteen/neo-classical shred vibe to it. A bit of sloppiness in there though  Hardly a 'slopfest'. Some nifty tapping going on !
When I click on Jazzsta's link, I get album not found, unfortunately.
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Posted By: Lionheart
Date Posted: October 03 2008 at 16:22
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I do home recording. But, I have a very simple and humble set up.
Guitars: Brian May model, Rickenbacker 360 (6 string BlueBoy), Gibson Les Paul, Rickenbacker 4003 bass, Korg M1 music workstation. A small Vox guitar amp, Gorilla Bass/Keyboard Amp. MBox firewire interface, Mac Powerbook G4 laptop. I use GarageBand and Logic Express. If anyone is interested in the noise that all this stuff makes when forced, you can hear it all at: www.myspace.com/charlieterenzio |