AYREON "The Human Equation"
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Topic: AYREON "The Human Equation"
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Subject: AYREON "The Human Equation"
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 04:56
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Maybe it's time to add the new AYREON : "The Human Equation" :)
------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
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Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 12:30
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I am currently listening to it .... and I must that I am impressed by the great ( usual ) quality of this Ayreon CD ...
I'll get back to talk about it later .. Thanks for the addition ... What do you think abo |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: April 14 2004 at 18:02
If I understand the question it is very difficult for me to speak about a record as I feel music. Translate it in words (and english words !!!!) is impossi |
MAX@ wrote:Posted By: janhuss
Date Posted: April 16 2004 at 06:09
it was released. already? 
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Posted By: will
Date Posted: April 18 2004 at 11:01
Great band, Great CD ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: April 21 2004 at 06:28
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Look what PROGARCHIVES received by email (I replace the name of the guy by XXX):
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Posted By: StarshipTrooper
Date Posted: April 21 2004 at 07:21
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Well I usually listen to a sound file before I decide wether or not to go out and buy the cd. As I have nothing to listen to, Ayreon shall stay just another name to me. I won,t go out and buy any of their stuff without hearing it so, Mr Inside Out, There i ------------- 
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 21 2004 at 12:07
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Obviously they have no desire to sell their product. Would you buy a car without a test drive? I think not. I'm with StarshipTrooper on this one.
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Posted By: will
Date Posted: April 21 2004 at 13:46
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I think by forcing you to remove the mp3 they are (pardon the expression) "pissing on they're own bonfire". As starship trooper says, they will lose prospective customers. I would |
Posted By: shaay
Date Posted: April 21 2004 at 17:26
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1) For your information. There are 30 (!!) soundsamples on the Offcial Ayreon website. That would be plenty of sampling- I think. This song is a part of a single that is currently being sold. 2) No one ever asked permission of the official lice |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 06:29
| I AM NOT FAMILAIR WITH THE INS AND OUTS OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SO I AM SOMEWHAT CONFUSED HERE. WHY WOULD THEY ASK FOR A SOUNDFILE TO BE REMOVED, IS IT FOR COPYRIGHT REASONS? I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GRAET PUBLICITY FOR A BAND! |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 06:47
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I was asked to remove all the MP3 files from the artist AYREON. I also suppose they want us to remove all the MP3 from all the artists signed by INSIDEOUTMUSIC , we'll see ! If you want to know more about INSIDE OUT: ------------- Prog On ! |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 06:59
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------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 07:57
| INTERESTING!! |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 11:38
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Hmmm On the one hand they're right, the Music is their property and we would get it for FREE if the Mp3 is available on this site. Normally you have to pay for it! They need money to support the artists...BUT On the other hand, as I said |
Posted By: vanin
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 15:30
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Hi people, I'm a new member here, but I agree with you about this issue. They are losing an opportunity to sell more albuns trough the site. I think it is not ignorance to put the mp3 file to download, and I suport the idea of continuing ------------- "Somewhere, like a scene from a memory, there's a picture worse a thousand words..." |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 15:35
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How are things in sun |
Posted By: vanin
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 15:41
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Ok, thank you Peter!! Everything is fine in Brazil, altough some Rio's social problems, but we cannot complain! I'm happy you got my words!! ------------- "Somewhere, like a scene from a memory, there's a picture worse a thousand words..." |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 22 2004 at 15:53
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It's like I (boringly) keep saying. Music is someone else's intellectual PROPERTY, and by downloading it, you are STEALING it. That is NOT MY opinion, although I do agree to some extent. It is the LAW just about everywhere on earth nowad |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 23 2004 at 12:41
| What happened to the good old days when you could go to the record store and buy 5 or 6 used albums for $20? I would say a little over half of my album collection was bought used. I don't have the time to spend on the computer to discover bands. These days |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 23 2004 at 17:42
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I still do, except I rifle through the ś1 each section (about 12 for $20!). I'm lucky in having three local 2nd hand vinyl shops. You can pick up vinyl (and CDs) pretty cheaply on eBay, if you're patient! Can I mention the Vinyls I'm sel |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 23 2004 at 19:43
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On the topic of the Ayreon MP3's the record company is completely justified in asking ProgArchives to remove it. Seeing as the song is a single, it is completely possible that releasing a song for free on MP3 format may either decrease demand (by i |
Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: April 24 2004 at 17:45
I'm not Karl Marx, but I think that any label wins much more than the artist. Music or art isn't important, just the money. World old story 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: April 25 2004 at 10:09
| Marcelo just said it all in about one and a half lines. |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 25 2004 at 11:22
| Perhaps the record industry can be summed up in one word - 'communists', seeing as they only wish to use musicians to sell records to the masses, and they have no interest in more intellectual forms of music. Yes, Marcelo is on the right road. |
Posted By: vanin
Date Posted: April 26 2004 at 08:19
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I think this way too. The record industry is only interested in make money, but they don't see that by distributing some samples of the musics they could increase they sellings  Acting this way, they fo ------------- "Somewhere, like a scene from a memory, there's a picture worse a thousand words..." |
Posted By: elfangio
Date Posted: April 28 2004 at 17:57
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[QUOTE=shaay] 1) For your information. There are 30 (!!) soundsamples on the Offcial Ayreon website. That would be plenty of sampling- I think. This song is a part of a single that is currently being sold. 2) No one ever asked permission of th |
Posted By: Hibou
Date Posted: April 28 2004 at 23:28
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If anyone cares to check out, you'll find some reeeally interesting article on the subject of 'free music on the net'. It's an editorial written by Jerry Lucky, author of 'The Progresive Rock Files', and it is entitled "Is the End Near?" |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: April 29 2004 at 09:33
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Cool article HIBOU !!! I like the part that said:
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Posted By: Stormcrow
Date Posted: April 29 2004 at 12:04
| And you have the Canadian court decision making Mp3's completely legal in that country. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 29 2004 at 13:12
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But it's not mp3's OR File Sharing that are illegal, and while the pigopolists in the record companies believe they are the law, as far as music is concerned, we, the music fans should try to stay out of the path of the oncoming steamroller, b |
Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: April 29 2004 at 17:53
| The weird thing is, in Canada, it is legal to download MP3's, but, it is illegal to upload them. This pretty much removes the need to 'share' to satisfy other downloaders, which also increases by incoming bandwidth. They can't stop all music sharing with t |
Posted By: necromancing
Date Posted: April 30 2004 at 00:43
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IMO, record sales are useless to non-major label bands. They can only really make money by touring: selling tickets to live gigs and selling t-shirts and cd's at the concerts. Even if everybody on this board buys three copies of their cd, it wou |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: April 30 2004 at 07:59
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JUST A SMALL QEUSTION, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "DOWNLODING" AND "UPLAODING"? WHEN IT COMES TO THE NET I AM STILL PRETTY MUCH A NEWBEI |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: April 30 2004 at 12:23
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'Downloading' refers to your transferring a file, data stream or whatever from another PC/site to your PC. For example, you download MP3 files from ProgArchives.com to your PC. 'Uploading' refers to your transferring a file, |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: May 02 2004 at 07:57
 THANKS FITZ !!
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 04 2004 at 19:20
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All: As many of you have touched on, there are two arguments here. One position compares downloading an MP3 to test-driving a car - i.e., you would not buy a car without test-driving it, so why would you buy a CD without h |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: May 04 2004 at 20:12
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: May 05 2004 at 10:17
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: May 05 2004 at 11:07
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Danbo: Your comparison is apt: progarchives might be viewed as a liquor store at which various "wines" can be sampled. However, if we extend your comparison, this makes the record companies the "wineries," in which case their rig |
Posted By: DBSilver
Date Posted: May 06 2004 at 18:06
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Max, |
Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: May 08 2004 at 18:33
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Welcome DBSilver, it's good to have you here ! Your idea is good but requires a lot of time ... We appreciate your suggestion though .. Thanks . |
