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Topic: PA's Insane Top Non-Prog Albums List (DUE Sept 15)
Posted By: Pnoom!
Subject: PA's Insane Top Non-Prog Albums List (DUE Sept 15)
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:32
Same idea as the top song list.  Lists of anywhere from 25-100 albums will be accepted.  Any genre goes, but nothing listed on PA (except in proto/related).

PM me your lists when you finish.

Please use text format (not RYM), and list albums starting with #1 and then going down (do not do reverse order).

Commence.  Lists are due September 15, 2008.

NOTE: For the purposes of this list, John Zorn does not count as prog (as in, he can be included on the lists).  While he is listed under RIO/Avant prog, even the PA bio admits he is not really a prog artist.  Neither does Miles Davis, who will shortly be added to the site, since he was not on the site before this contest started.  And, once again, Proto/Related is not prog.

Note2
: Classical works count as well, even if they came before the time of recording music.  Just list them as Composer - Name of Work (e.g. Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring).  Even if there are recorded versions since then, please format it as I said.



So what can I include?
-anything not on progarchives
-anything in the Proto/related categories on PA
-John Zorn and Miles Davis



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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:32
Blank.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:45
DAMN YOU FOLLY THIS IS MY TURF.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46093 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46093

08's list was already done and 09 was going to start up around December.

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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:50
And you didn't even vote in the song list yet. Only 10 more days!!

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:53
My list will have a fairer scoring system.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:55
Elaborate.

If you can not tell, I am seriously displeased.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 21:57
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

Elaborate.

If you can not tell, I am seriously displeased.


Well, according to your list, an album that is ranked #1 is 250 times better than an album ranked #250.  I would add a bonus simply for making the list, meaning that being #1 would only be ten times better than being #250 (or, in the case of my list, five times better than being #100).


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:01
I can't say that I follow you. The bonus seems linear and would not make any real difference.
But still, I had a system going with this. I really can't believe you'd just butt in.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:10
I admit I didn't notice your thread.

The bonus would make a difference.

Say I put Can's Ege Bamyasi at #1, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 100 points on your system.

Suppose 99 people put Tago Mago at #100, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 99 points from you.

So EB>TM even though 99 people prefer TM.

But in my system, if EB is at #1, then if 6 people put TM at #100, it ends up above EB.

See the difference now?


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:10
If it really bothers you, though, I can just have this thread deleted.

It would be interesting to see the comparison between the two scoring methods, though.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:12
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

I admit I didn't notice your thread.

The bonus would make a difference.

Say I put Can's Ege Bamyasi at #1, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 100 points on your system.

Suppose 99 people put Tago Mago at #100, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 99 points from you.

So EB>TM even though 99 people prefer TM.

But in my system, if EB is at #1, then if 6 people put TM at #100, it ends up above EB.

See the difference now?


While itsy's weighting may be too low, I would argue that yours is too high.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:14
I admit, I like your system, or one with a slightly less generous curve. I'd love to implement it.
I know it was an honest mistake, but I'd appreciate waiting until December. Then, explain to me your system and I think it will benefit the list.
I was thinking of a way to do that, I just didn't know how. I figured I could come up with some sort of curve formula but didn't have the motivation.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:15
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

I admit I didn't notice your thread.

The bonus would make a difference.

Say I put Can's Ege Bamyasi at #1, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 100 points on your system.

Suppose 99 people put Tago Mago at #100, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 99 points from you.

So EB>TM even though 99 people prefer TM.

But in my system, if EB is at #1, then if 6 people put TM at #100, it ends up above EB.

See the difference now?


While itsy's weighting may be too low, I would argue that yours is too high.


That was an arbitrary example.  I could easily make it any number.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:18
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

I admit I didn't notice your thread.

The bonus would make a difference.

Say I put Can's Ege Bamyasi at #1, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 100 points on your system.

Suppose 99 people put Tago Mago at #100, and nobody else puts it anywhere.  It gets 99 points from you.

So EB>TM even though 99 people prefer TM.

But in my system, if EB is at #1, then if 6 people put TM at #100, it ends up above EB.

See the difference now?


While itsy's weighting may be too low, I would argue that yours is too high.


That was an arbitrary example.  I could easily make it any number.


Indeed, the devil is in the details.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:20
I chose such a high weighting to show how much of a difference it could make.  Somewhere between 10-15 would probably be a better choice.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:20
Although I was rather angry before, I admit this topic turned out to be a bit of a blessing in disguise because now I have the idea of scaling scores based on different multipliers based on the number of votes received. Probably in increments of between .05 and .15 per vote. I'll be implementing this switch as soon as the song list if it works well.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:23
Is your album list finished?  If it is, I'd say go ahead with this one with the new scoring.  If it isn't, this thread can be closed and you can implement the scoring on the album list, too.

Also, I'm a bit baffled why you were so upset over a simple misunderstanding.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:24
Maybe he's pregnant.  I know my wife gets pretty cranky when she's pregnant.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:25
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Is your album list finished?  If it is, I'd say go ahead with this one with the new scoring.  If it isn't, this thread can be closed and you can implement the scoring on the album list, too.Also, I'm a bit baffled why you were so upset over a simple misunderstanding.

The album list finished months ago, but I'll be switching up the scoring for the song list which is currently under way.
Well my first post was a bit more a joking tone (something I knew you wouldn't take too seriously ) but I worked really hard on that list and I really enjoyed doing it.

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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:26
Oh and the album/song lists are meant to be annual and there will definitely be scoring changes for the 09 list.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:27
yeah, I didn't mean to usurp your list.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:30
It's all good.
Now just make a song list and we'll put it all in the past. Please (insert picture of cute small mammal with large eyes)

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:31
1. Kayo Dot - The Manifold Curiosity.


Nature of the list edited.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:34
I like it!
You should be expecting a list from me, probably by the end of the night

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 22:39
Yep, I'm making my general top 100 as I type, I'll cut out the prog albums and post it here later tonight.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 23:14
Are live albums allowed?

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 23:17
Yep, Masada - Live in Sevilla will definitely feature on mine.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 00:12
First vote yay. This list would be different on a different day, not exact, etc. etc.
But I think it's damn good. Enjoy.
If you'd like comments/commentary about the albums, I'd write something up

1     Neutral Milk Hotel     In the Aeroplane over the Sea
2     Talking Heads     Remain in Light
3     Kate Bush     Hounds of Love
4     Arcade Fire     Funeral
5     The Kinks     The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society
6     Fela Kuti     Zombie
7     Wolf Parade     Apologies to the Queen Mary
8     Mew     And the Glass Handed Kites
9     Konono No 1     Congotronics
10     Thom Yorke     The Eraser
11     The New Pornographers     Twin Cinema
12     The Shins     Oh, Inverted World!
13     Modest Mouse     The Lonesome Crowded West
14     Animal Collective     Strawberry Jam
15     The Flaming Lips     The Soft Bulletin
16     Antibalas     Security
17     Pixies     Doolittle
18     Ween     Quebec
19     Fela Kuti     Expensive sh*t
20     Arcade Fire     Neon Bible
21     Death Cab For Cutie     We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes
22     The White Stripes     Elephant
23     Interpol     Turn on the Bright Lights
24     Animal Collective     Sung Tongs
25     The Avalanches     Since I Left You
26     Muse     Origin of Symmetry
27     Sufjan Stevens     Come on Feel the Illinoise
28     The Beatles     Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
29     Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
30     TV on the Radio     Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes
31     Fela Kuti     Gentleman
32     Vampire Weekend     Vampire Weekend
33     Pixies     Surfer Rosa
34     Spoon     Gimme Fiction
35     Boards of Canada     Music Has the Right to Children
36     Muse     Black Holes and Revelations
37     The Beatles     Revolver
38     Animal Collective     Feels
39     Charles Mingus     The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
40     Maximo Park     A Certain Trigger
41     The Beatles     The Beatles (The White Album)
42     Miles Davis     In a Silent Way
43     Modest Mouse     The Moon and Antarctica
44     Death Cab For Cutie - Transatlanticism
45     Youssou N'Dour     Egypt
46     Konono No 1     Live at Coleur Café
47     The White Stripes     White Blood Cells
48     Fela Kuti     Shakara
49     Muse     Absolution
50     Spoon     Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
51     Death Cab For Cutie     The Photo Album
52     Bloc Party   Silent Alarm
53     Nick Drake     Pink Moon
54     Miles Davis     On the Corner
55     Coheed and Cambria     In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth 3
56     Tom Waits    Rain Dogs
57     Portishead     Third
58     The Microphones     The Glow Pt. 2
59     Franz Ferdinand     Franz Ferdinand
60     Shout Out Louds     Howl Howl Gaff Gaff
61     Dalek     Abandoned Language
62     Fela Kuti     Alagbon Close
63     Chamillionaire     The Sound of Revenge
64     Man Man     Six Demon Bag
65     TV on the Radio     Return to Cookie Mountain
66     Bjork     Post
67     Akron/Family     Meek Warrior
68     Coldplay     A Rush of Blood to the Head
69     Grizzly Bear    Yellow House
70     Saul Williams     The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust
71     Aphex Twin     Druqks
72     The White Stripes    De Stijl
73     Modest Mouse     This is a Long Drive for Someone With Nothing to Think About
74     Weezer     Weezer (The Blue Album)
75     El Guincho     Alegranza!
76     Squarepusher     Music is Rotted One Note
77     Mum     Yesterday Was Dramatic, Today is OK
78     Fela Kuti     He Miss Road
79     Massive Attack     Mezzanine
80     Sunny Day Real Estate     LP2
81     The White Stripes     Get Behind Me Satan
82     Weird Al Yankovic     Running With Scissors
83     Aphex Twin     Richard D. James Album
84     Muse     Showbiz
85     Minus the Bear     Planet of Ice
86     The Shins     Wincing the Night Away
87     Yeasayer     All Hour Cymbals
88     The Postal Service     Give Up
89     Led Zeppelin     Houses of the Holy
90     The Beatles     Rubber Soul
91     Fela Kuti     Sorrow Tears and Blood
92     The Fire Theft     The Fire Theft
93     Fela Kuti    Monkey Banana
94     Ween     The Mollusk
95     M83     Dead Cities, Red Seas, & Lost Ghosts
96     Hood     Outside Closer
97     The Shins     Chutes Too Narrow
98     Burial     Untrue
99     Boards of Canada     Geogaddi
100     Sunset Rubdown     Random Spirit Lover

Sorry it's not easier to read.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 00:15
Once the list starts to take shape I'll start asking people for reviews.  My list is coming, I just need to convert it to text and remove the prog albums.

EDIT: damn your list is sexy.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 00:28
1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
2. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
3. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
4. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
5. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
6. Joy Division - Closer
7. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antarctica
8. Pharoah Sanders - Karma
9. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
10. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
11. Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
12. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
13. John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
14. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead
15. Television - Marquee Moon
16. Nas - Illmatic
17. Wire - Chairs Missing
18. Joanna Newsom - Ys
19. Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
20. Moondog - Moondog (1969)
21. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
22. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
23. Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
24. Glenn Branca - The Ascension
25. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing...
26. Arcade Fire - Funeral
27. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
28. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
29. John Zorn - Naked City
30. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
31. Massive Attack - Mezzanine
32. Madvillain - Madvillainy
33. David Bowie - Low
34. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
35. John Zorn - The Big Gundown
36. Bjork - Homogenic
37. Genius/GZA - Liquid Swords
38. Fela Kuti - Gentleman
39. Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
40. The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight
41. John Zorn - Spillane
42. Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
43. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
44. John Zorn - The Bribe
45. Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
46. Primal Scream - Screamadelica
47. Masada - Live in Sevilla 2000
48. Talking Heads - More Songs About Building and Food
49. Fela Kuti - Confusion
50. Pixies - Doolittle
51. Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
52. Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On
53. John Coltrane - Blue Train
54. The Congos - Heart of the Congos
55. Wadada Leo Smith - Reflectativity
56. Nick Drake - Pink Moon
57. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
58. Talking Heads - Talking Heads: 77
59. Culture - Two Sevens Clash
60. Wire - Pink Flag
61. Massive Attack - Blue Lines
62. Fela Kuti - Zombie
63. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
64. The Notwist - Neon Golden
65. XTC - Skylarking
66. Slint - Spiderland
67. John Zorn - The Circle Maker
68. The Fiery Furnaces - Blueberry Boat
69. Animal Collective - Feels
70. David Bowie - Hunky Dory
71. The Roots - Game Theory
72. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
73. Portishead - Third
74. John Zorn - Six Litanies for Heliogabalus
75. Scott Walker - The Drift


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 00:34
You reminded me of 2 albums I forgot in your top 5 alone
Yes, quite nice indeed.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 00:50
Yeah, yours gave me some I needed to add.  At some point I'll expand to 100.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 01:45
I sent you my short list of 25. most of them are oldies.
 
  1. Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
  2. Cat Stevens – Tea for the Tillerman
  3. U2 – Joshua’s Tree
  4. Rolling Stones – Their Satanic Majesties Request
  5. Grand Funk Railroad – E Pluribus Funk
  6. Cranberries – No Need to Argue
  7. Meat Loaf – Bat Out of Hell
  8. Paco de Lucia, Al DiMeola & Joihn McLaughlin – Friday Night in San Francisco
  9. Doobie Brothers – Toulouse Street
  10. Bachman, Turner Overdrive – Not Fragile
  11. The Mamas & The Papas – California Dreamin’
  12. Dire Straits – Brother in Arms
  13. Mountain – Climbing!
  14. REM – Out of Time
  15. Cat Stevens – Mona Bone Jackon
  16. Nazareth – Greatest Hits
  17. Boston - Boston
  18. The Eagles – Hotel California
  19. The Traveling Wilburys - Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1
  20. Grand Funk Railroad – Phoenix
  21. Simon & Garfunkel – The Sounds of Silence
  22. Meat Loaf – Bat Out of Hell II
  23. Jackson Browne – Lives in the Balance
  24. Miles Davis – Bitches Brew
  25. Bachman Turner Overdrive – Four Wheel Drive

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 02:38
Thanks.


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 03:26
This will be fun. I'll get started right now.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 03:31
I'll probably have to entirely redo my list.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 03:32
oh wow... that is a hard one... tossing one off here... current non PA's bands Wink

1. Allman Brothers Band - At the Fillmore East
2. Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out
3. Willie Nelson - Stardust  (wow)
4. Steely Dan - Katy Lied
5. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed (99% of the bands here on this site.... should ever make a album THAT great) 
6. Blind Melon - Soup   (bar none... best rock album made in the 90's)
7. Fleetwood Mac - Rumours (figure this album will be on anyone's list over the age of 30 or 35)
8. Dee-Lite - World Clique.  (don't ask me why...but the album is a part of me.. love it love it love it)
9. Alice in Chains - Dirt
10. Duran Duran - Rio

ehhh... time for for morning coffee... will do more later...


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 04:06
Glad to see this taking off.



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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 04:09
OK, I included bands I think belong here that aren't, and so-called "prog related" bands, and I omitted all EPs. As always, the order is loose.
 

1.       Arcade Fire – Funeral

2.       The Smiths – The Queen Is Dead

3.       Animal Collective – Strawberry Jam

4.       RX Bandits - …And the Battle Begun

5.       Coheed and Cambria – In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3

6.       Circa Survive – On Letting Go

7.       Coldplay – Parachutes

8.       Guthrie Govan – Erotic Cakes

9.       Sufjan Stevens – Illinois

10.    Anathallo – Floating World

11.    Iron & Wine – Our Endless Numbered Days

12.    Neutral Milk Hotel – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

13.    Thrice - Vheissu

14.    Mew – And the Glass Handed Kites

15.    Coheed and Cambria – Good Apollo I’m Burning Star IV, Volume I

16.    Muse – Black Holes and Revelations

17.    The Smiths – Meat Is Murder

18.    Minus the Bear – Planet of Ice

19.    Miles Davis – Kind of Blue

20.    John Coltrane – A Love Supreme

21.    Andrew Bird – Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs

22.    Cursive – The Ugly Organ

23.    Broken Social Scene – Broken Social Scene

24.    My Morning Jacket – Z

25.    The Shins – Wincing the Night Away

26.    Nine Inch Nails – Year Zero

27.    Of Montreal – Satanic Panic in the Attic

28.    Ted Leo & the Pharmacists – Heart of Oak

29.    Andrew Bird – Armchair Apocrypha

30.    Arcade Fire – Neon Bible

31.    Joanna Newsom - Ys

32.    At the Drive-In – Relationship of Command

33.    Beirut – The Flying Club Cup

34.    RX Bandits – The Resignation

35.    The Smiths – The Smiths

36.    Coheed and Cambria – The Second Stage Turbine Blade

37.    Minus the Bear – Highly Refined Pirates

38.    The Dismemberment Plan – Emergency & I

39.    Circa Survive – Juturna

40.    Coldplay – Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends

41.    Broken Social Scene – You Forgot It in People

42.    Muse – Absolution

43.    Rodrigo y Gabriela – Rodrigo y Gabriela

44.    Ted Leo & the Pharmacists – The Tyranny of Distance

45.    Animal Collective – Feels

46.    Miles Davis – Bitches Brew

47.    Sufjan Stevens – Greetings from Michigan: The Great Lakes State

48.    Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works 85-92

49.    Cursive – Happy Hollow

50.    Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights

51.    Murder by Death – Red of Tooth and Claw

52.    Brazil – The Philosophy of Velocity

53.    The Lawrence Arms – The Greatest Story Ever Told

54.    Modest Mouse – Good News for People Who Love Bad News

55.    Cave In – Antenna

56.    Dave Matthews Band – Before These Crowded Streets

57.    Death Cab for Cutie – Plans

58.    The Receiving End of Sirens – The Earth Sings Mi Fa Mi

59.    Thom Yorke – The Eraser

60.    Rachel’s – Music for Egon Schiele

61.    My Morning Jacket – It Still Moves

62.    System of a Down – Mezmerize/Hypnotize

63.    The Anniversary – Your Majesty

64.    Band of Horses – Cease to Begin

65.    The Dismemberment Plan – Change

66.    The Fire Theft – The Fire Theft

67.    Pretty Girls Make Graves – The New Romance

68.    Thrice – The Alchemy Index

69.    Tin Hat Trio – Book of Silk

70.    Turtle Island String Quartet – Art of the Groove

71.    Katatonia – Viva Emptiness

72.    John Coltrane – Giant Steps

73.    Miles Davis – Sketches of Spain

74.    Miles Davis – A Tribute to Jack Johnson

75.    Steve Reich - Octet

76.    Nine Inch Nails – The Slip

77.    Minus the Bear – Menos el Oso

78.    Brazil – A Hostage and the Meaning of Life

79.    The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin

80.    The Go! Team – Thunder, Lightning, Strike

81.    The Velvet Teen – Out of the Fierce Parade

82.    The Weakerthans – Left and Leaving

83.    Iron & Wine – The Shepherd’s Dog

84.    Muse – Origin of Symmetry

85.    Murder by Death – In Bocca al Lupo

86.    Modest Mouse – The Moon & Antarctica

87.    Alarm Will Sound – Acoustica

88.    Animal Collective – Sung Tongs

89.    Miles Davis – Miles Smiles

90.    Aphex Twin – Drukqs

91.    Steve Reich – Music for 18 Musicians

92.    Ted Leo & the Pharmacists – Shake the Sheets

93.    Interpol – Antics

94.    Karate – Some Boots

95.    Belle & Sebastian – Dear Catastrophe Waitress

96.    Boards of Canada – Music Has the Right to Children

97.    The Snake The Cross The Crown – Mander Salis

98.    Knapsack – This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now

99.    Primus – Sailing the Seas of Cheese

100.Weezer – The Blue Album

 
I think I'm the only person who strongly prefers Good News for People Who Love Bad News over all other Modest Mouse albums. And moreitsythanyou, I saw you put SDRE's LP2 on your list. I actually like that one the least and prefer the second half of the band's existence over the first. I really liked The Fire Theft's album, though (you'll see it's on my list too). Are they ever going to release the follow-up?


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 06:00
11. George Harrison - All Things Must Pass (would be higher if not for the damned 'Apple jams')
12. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
13. Elmore James - King of the Slide Guitar (boxset)
14. Jack Bruce - Songs for a Tailor
15. AC/DC - Let there be Rock
16. Marvin Gaye - What's Going On?
17. Wings - Venus and Mars
18. Billie Holliday - Complete Columbia Recordings  (boxset..worth every penny you pay for it)
19. ZZ Top - Tres Hombries
20. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
21. Pat Benatar - Crimes of Passion
22. Steely Dan -  Countdown to Ecstasy
23. The Eagles - Desperado
24. Waylon Jennings - Ol' Waylon
25. Stan Kenton - Adventures in Time  



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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 06:40
oh albums lol

01. SFA - Guerrilla
02. Boris - Amplifier Worship
03. can I pick Kraftwerk's electro era? that stuff ain't prog
04. no?
05. what's up guys


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 07:23
Arvanitaki,Elefteria : Live
Badarou, Wally  : Echoes
Berberian, Cathy : Recital
Byrds : Sweetheart Of The Rodeo
Coltrane,John : Love Supreme
Davis,Miles : Jack Johnson
Dolphy, Eric  : Out To Lunch
Drake,Nick : Bryter Later
Dylan,Bob  : Blood On The Tracks
Evans,Bill  : Montreux
Hendrix,Jimi  : Electric ladyland
Ijahman : Haile I Hymn
Johnson,LK   : Forces Of Victory
Joy Division : Closer
Marley,Bob : Babylon by bus
Mitchell,Joni  : Hissing Of The Summer lawns
Newmann,Randy  : Little Criminals
Nyro,Laura  : same
Roches, The : same
Smiths : The Queen Is Dead
Sopwith Camel : Giant Hump Over The moon
Stevens,Sufjan : Michigan
Than, Huong : Moon & Wind
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 07:29
This is just a reminder that all finalized lists will need to be PMed to me or I won't be able to count them (far too much work digging through the thread and seperating lists I have from lists I don't).

Also, Alucard, it's impossible for me to score your list unless you put them in order from best to worst.

Thanks guys, and keep them coming.  I'll tentatively shoot for the end of September to have this list finished (depending how many lists I get before then).  For now, September 15 is the due date.


Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 10:13
One question: Do jazz/fusion albums count that are on the site (e.g. Mahavishnu Orchestra or Santana)?


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 10:39
13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators
13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere
Animal Collective - Feels
Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
Arcade Fire - Funeral
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
The Beatles - Rubber Soul
The Beatles - Revolver
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Cocteau Twins - Treasure
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
The Doors - The Doors
The Doors - Strange Days
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
Espers - Espers
Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Joy Division - Closer
The Kinks - Are the Village Green Preservation Society
The Kinks - Arthur, or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire
The Kinks - Muswell Hillbililies
Led Zeppelin - IV
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight
Mew - And the Glass Handed Kites
Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Panda Bear - Person Pitch
The Pop Group - Y
The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's all I have by them so far Embarrassed)
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Stars of the Lid - And Their Refinement of the Decline
Stereolab - Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements
Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Sun Ra - Atlantis
Swell Maps - A Trip to Marineville
Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food
Talking Heads - Fear of Music
Talking Heads - Remain in Light
The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground and Nico
The Velvet Underground - White Light/White Heat
Brian Wilson - Smile

i'll add more later, maybe.  and they should be ranked before i leave for college in 3 weeks :P

edit: damn, looking at morechamillionairethanyou's list and I forgot Aeroplane LOL and I don't really consider Mew prog so I'm adding them :P


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Posted By: Demonoid
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 11:25
Top 25-

1. The Beatles - Abbey Road
2. David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
3. The Clash - London Calling
4. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
5. Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
6. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
7. The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols
8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
9. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
10. Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss
11. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
12. The Who - Who's Next
13. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
14. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
15. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
16. Pixies - Doolittle
17. Slayer - Reign in Blood
18. Bathory - Blood Fire Death
19. The Smiths - The Smiths
20. The Rolling Stones - Beggers Banquet
21. Jimi Hexdrix - Electric Ladyland
22. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
23. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
24. Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
25. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back

I'll add more later.
So many bands i listen to are considered prog in some way or the other...or atleast they are there in the archives Confused
http://www.last.fm/music/Sex+Pistols/Never+Mind+the+Bollocks+Heres+the+Sex+Pistols -

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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 11:33
This is stupid hard now that most of the corner cases I listen to are actually in RIO/Avant. it is my loss but since I've cut out ze metal and have always ignored indie, hiphop and everything in-between I don't have much of a list - it'd be the work of a dabbler, with a Merzalbum, a jazz album I've accidentally liked, a few bad albums I've come to enjoy since I grew up with them, etc. I just won't bother since it'd be crap data.

If Residents, latter-day Kraftwerk and Slapp Happy are really prog then I am a total purist. ;P


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 14:34
No exceptions other than Zorn, sorry.  I can't keep track of any more.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 14:39
Originally posted by Luke. J Luke. J wrote:

One question: Do jazz/fusion albums count that are on the site (e.g. Mahavishnu Orchestra or Santana)?


With the sole exception of John Zorn, everything on the site outside of Prog Related/Proto Prog is voided from these lists.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 15:12
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

I think I'm the only person who strongly prefers Good News for People Who Love Bad News over all other Modest Mouse albums. And moreitsythanyou, I saw you put SDRE's LP2 on your list. I actually like that one the least and prefer the second half of the band's existence over the first. I really liked The Fire Theft's album, though (you'll see it's on my list too). Are they ever going to release the follow-up?</SPAN>

I've only heard Diary and LP2. I might get one of the later albums eventually. And I hope The Fire Theft is making a follow up, the first one was cool.
And Good News is not bad. I believe it very narrowly missed my list.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 15:56
Good News is pretty good but definitely inferior to TM&A and TLCW


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:02
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's all I have by them so far Embarrassed)
 
IMHO is all you need from them. LOL
 
Well, also the single of Paint it Black.
 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 17:02

I simply like the songs, atmospheres, melodies, production and flow of Good News better than all of them. I've never really been a Modest Mouse fan, but something about the album really struck me. I learned to like The Moon & Antarctica, but still not as much as Good News.

And, moreitsythanyou, if you like The Fire Theft, and early Sunny Day you'll more than likely enjoy the last two SDRE albums. They are basically a combination of the two sounds. The Fire Theft almost continues the evolution of the band.


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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 22:15
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's all I have by them so far Embarrassed)
 
IMHO is all you need from them. LOL
 
Well, also the single of Paint it Black.
 
Iván

I've wanted to buy Aftermath for a while, but I always end up getting something else instead or forgetting about it.  Most of their late '60s stuff in general, but after that... eh


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 22:18
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's all I have by them so far Embarrassed)
 
IMHO is all you need from them. LOL
 
Well, also the single of Paint it Black.
 
Iván


Nah, Sticky Fingers is a great album.  "Can't You Hear Me Knockin" has to be my favorite Stones track.


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 22:19
Originally posted by Demonoid Demonoid wrote:

Top 25-

1. The Beatles - Abbey Road
2. David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
3. The Clash - London Calling
4. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
5. Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
6. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
7. The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols
8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
9. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
10. Burzum - Hvis lyset tar oss
11. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
12. The Who - Who's Next
13. Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
14. Sonic Youth - Teenage Riot
15. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
16. Pixies - Doolittle
17. Slayer - Reign in Blood
18. Bathory - Blood Fire Death
19. The Smiths - The Smiths
20. The Rolling Stones - Beggers Banquet
21. Jimi Hexdrix - Electric Ladyland
22. Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
23. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
24. Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
25. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back

I'll add more later.
So many bands i listen to are considered prog in some way or the other...or atleast they are there in the archives Confused

Nice list, but I'm assuming you mean Daydream Nation and not Teenage Riot.  That happens to me sometimes too. :P

Surprised at how indie these lists are too.  I need to spend some time exploring indie I've not checked out yet, I usually am either extremely impressed or totally apathetic, pagan god bless youtube and last.fm radio!


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 22:23
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:

The Rolling Stones - Their Satanic Majesties Request (it's all I have by them so far Embarrassed)

 

IMHO is all you need from them. LOL

 

Well, also the single of Paint it Black.

 

Iván

I agree. Except you need Gimme Shelter too. Other than that, he's right

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 01 2008 at 22:54
No preference order, by now.

1.Machine Head - Deep Purple
2.Fireball - Deep Purple
3.Who do We Think We Are - Deep purple
4.Burn - Deep Purple
5.Stormbringer - Deep Purple
6.Come Taste the Band - Deep Purple
7.King Biscuit Hour - Deep Purple
8.Made in Europe - Deep Purple
9.Concerto for Group and Orchestra - Deep Purple
10.Book of Taliesyn - Deep Purple
11.Deep Purple - Deep Purple
12.Battle Rages On - Deep Purple
13.Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
14.Paranoid - Black Sabbath
15.Sabotage - Black Sabbath
16.Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - Black Sabbath
17.Heaven and Hell - Black Sabbath
18.Led Zeppelin I - Led Zeppelin
19.Led Zeppelin II - Led Zeppelin
20.Led Zeppelin III - Led Zeppelin
21.Heartbreaker - Free
22.You Are the Music - Trapeze
23.Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow - Rainbow
24.Ready an' Willing - Whitesnake (with argentine bonus tracks)
25.Lovehunter - Whitesnake (with argentine bonus tracks)
26.Come an' Get it - Whitesnake
27.Private Eyes - Tommy Bolin
28.CSN(debut) - CSN(Crosby,etc)
29.Deja Vu - CSNY
30.CSN(s/t) - CSN
31.Abbey Road - Beatles
32.Sgt Peppers - Beatles
33.Revolver - Beatles
34.Desatormentandonos - Pescado Rabioso
35.My Generation - The Who
36.Quick One - The Who
37.Who's Next - The Who
38.Quadrophenia - The Who
39.Who Are You - The Who
40.Face Dances - The Who
41.High Voltage - Ac/Dc
42.Jailbreak '74 - Ac/Dc
43.Powerage - Ac/Dc
44.Ballbreaker - Ac/Dc
45.Back in Black - Ac/Dc
46.Revelations - Audioslave
47.Out of Exile - Audioslave
48.Audioslave - Audioslave
49.Blind Melon - Blind Melon
50.Ten - Pearl Jam
51.VS - Pearl Jam
52.X & Y - Coldplay
53.Rush of Blood..(or is it God Put a Smile?) - Coldplay
54.Stars - Simply Red
55.Kick - Inxs
56.X - Inxs
57.Listen Like Thieves - Inxs
58.Elegantly Wasted - Inxs
59.The Doors - The Doors
60.Llegando los Monos - Sumo
61.Core - Stone Temple Pilots
62.Steppen Wolf - Steppen Wolf
63.La Banda - Ruben (I think it's not added to jazz fusion)
54.Windows - Jon Lord (dunno if it's related)
55.Sarabande - Jon Lord (dunno if it's related)
56.One Hot Minute - RHCP
57.El Camino del Fuego - Rata Blanca(Whiterat, Whitesnake, get it?)
58.The Very Best of(contains both cd's) - Ram Jam
59.Triangulo - Pappo
60.Hair of the Dog - Nazareth
61.Kiss(debut) - Kiss
62.Hotter than Hell - Kiss
63.School's Out - Alice Cooper
64.Billion Dollar Babies - Alice Cooper
65.Muscle of Love - Alice Cooper
66.Jesus Christ Superstar(original version) - you know
67.Smoke - Humble Pie
68.Then Play On - Fleetwood Mc
69.Head Hunters - Herbie Hancock
70.Toro Rojo - Guasones
71.Give me the Night - George Benson
72.That's Right - George Benson
73.The Corrs - The Corrs
74.Slow Hand - Eric Clapton
75.Love Over Gold - Dire Straits
76.Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
77.On Every Street - Dire Strait
78.Straight Shooter - Bad Company
79.Bad Company - Bad Company
80.Purpendicular - Deep Purple
81.Bananas - Deep Purple
82.Slaves & Masters - Deep Purple
83.Houses of the Holy - Led Zeppelin
84.Presence - Led Zeppelin
85.IV - Led Zeppelin
86.Stiff Upper Lip - Ac/Dc
87.Razors Edge - Ac/Dc
88.The White Album - The Beatles
89.

I'll have to check some more stuff then...

If POP/Rock albums of Prog bands count, then I would have finished the list..


Posted By: Demonoid
Date Posted: August 02 2008 at 03:53
Originally posted by Bluesaga Bluesaga wrote:


Nice list, but I'm assuming you mean Daydream Nation and not Teenage Riot.  That happens to me sometimes too. :P

Surprised at how indie these lists are too.  I need to spend some time exploring indie I've not checked out yet, I usually am either extremely impressed or totally apathetic, pagan god bless youtube and last.fm radio!

I make that mistake all the time.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 02 2008 at 18:14
Am I allowed to post discography discs (as in, containing all recorded material by a band)? Because if not my list will be very, very flawed. A very good alternative would be to allow EPs.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 02 2008 at 19:55
I'll PM it when it feels finished:

1 Dmitri Shostacovich: String Quartet no. 15
2 Don Cherry: Brown Rice (Original LP title: Don Cherry)
3 Herbie Hancock: Crossings
4 Franz Schubert: (Orch. Mahler) String Quartet no. 14, D 810 (Death and the Maiden)
5 Anthony Williams: Life Time
6 Eric Dolphy: Out to Lunch
7 Miles Davis: Get Up With It
8 Bela Bartók: String Quartets
9 Kate Bush: The Dreaming
10 Sonny Sharrock: Black Woman
11 Morton Feldman: Rothko Chapel
12 Herbie Mann: Stone Flute
13 Arnold Shoenberg: Verklärte Nacht
14 Joni Michell: Ladies of the Canyon
15 The Carpenters: The Singles 1969-1973
16 Giacinto Scelsi: Music for Wind Instruments and Percussion
17 Brigitte Fontaine, Art Ensemble of Chicago: Comme a la Radio
18 Erik Bye: Jeg Vet en Vind
19 Frankie Dymon Jr: Let it Out
20 Kaija Saariaho: Chamber Music
21 Ludvig Van Beethoven: Ninth Symphony 
22 Cracow Klezmer Band: De Profundis
23 Pharoah Sanders: Tauhid
24 Metallica: Master of Puppets
25 Miles Davis: Bitches Brew
26 Miles Davis: In a Silent Way
27 Poppy Family: Which Way You're Going, Billy
28 Fred Åkerstrøm: Två Tungor
29 Eric Dolphy: Out There
30 Johann Sebastian Bach: Cembalo Concertos
31 Slayer: Reign in Blood
32 J.P Massiera, Armando Torelli: Turn Radio On
33 Black Sabbath: Black Sabbath
34 ABBA: The Visitors
35 Jan Garbarek: Afric Pepperbird
36 Dmitri Shostacovich: String Quartet no. 8
37 Pierre Brachelet - Historie d'O
38 Andrew Hill: Point of Departure
39 Jean-Claude Vannier: L'Enfant Assassin
40 John Luther Adams: Clouds Of Forgetting, Clouds Of Unknowing
41Bobby Hutcherson: Components
42 White Noise: An Electric Storm
43 A-ha: Scoundrel Days
44 Miles Davis: Sorcerer
45 Josephine Foster: Hazel Eyes, I Will Lead you
46 Ween: The Mollusk
47 Mos Def: Black on Both Sides
48 Steve Reich: Music For 18 Musicians
49 Sun Ra: The Heliocentric Worlds of Ra
50 Leonard Cohen: Songs of Love and Hate
51 Tom Waits: The Black Rider
52 Sepultura: Beneath the Remains
53 Lee Hazelwood: Trouble is a Lonesome Town
54 Terry Riley: In C
55 Julian Priester: Love, Love
56 Pharoah Sanders: Karma
57 John Coltrane: A Love Supreme
58 Mal Waldron: The Call
59 Scott Walker: 3
60 Atrium de Musicae de Madrid: Musique de la Grèce Antique
61 Tiny Tim: God Bless Tiny Tim
62 Flower Travellin' Band: Satori
63 Wayne Shorter: Super Nova
64 Jan Garbarek: Sart
65 Combustible Edison: Impossible Worlds
66 Heart: Dreamboat Annie
67 America: America
68 Herbie Hancock: Empyrean Isles
69 Extradition: Hush
70 Nico Muhly: Speaks Volumes
71 Francoise Hardy: Ma Jeunesse Fout Le Camp
72 Dr. John, The Night Tripper: Gris Gris
73 Joanna Newsom: The Milk-Eyed Mender
74 Ennio Morricone: A Fistful of Dollars
75 Lene Lovich: Stateless
76 Miles Davis: Big Fun
77 Nico Fidenco: Emanuelle in America
78 Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & Hi Tek ): Train of Thought
79 David Bowie: Low
80 Walter (Wendy) Carlos: A Clockwork Orange OST
81 Yma Zumac: Mambo!
82 Eartha Kitt: That Bad Eartha
83 Alice in Chains: Dirt
84 Eddie Henderson: Realization
85 Jacques Thollot: Watch Devil Go
86 Nick Drake: Five Leaves Left
87 C.A Quintet: Trip Thru Hell
88 Vangelis: Hypothesis
89 Joni Mitchell: Heira
90 Francis Lai: La Lecon Particuliere
91 Grachan Moncur III: Some Other Stuff
92 Jane's Addiction: Ritual de la Habitual
93 Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin
94 Cecil Taylor: The World of Cecil Taylor
95
Dave Burrell: Echo
96 Joan Baez: Noel
97 Video Liszt: Ektakrom Killer
98 The Velvet Underground: The Velvet Undergroung & Nico
99 Byard Lancaster: It's Not Up To Us
100 Armando Sciastica: Metempsyco

101 Kate Bush: Hounds of Love
102 Ennio Morricone: Bird with Crystal Plumage
103 Andrea Belfi: Between Neck & Stomach 
104 Jerry Goldsmith: Justine
105 Don Cherry: Symphonies for Improvisers
106 Danzig: II Lucifuge
107 Beatles: The Beatles (White Album) 
108 United States of America: United States of America
119 Martin Denny: Forbidden Island
110 Lalo Schifrin: The Dissection an Reconstruction of Music From the Past as performed by the Inmates of Lalo Schifrin's Demented Ensemble as a Tribute to The Memory of the Marquis De Sade 





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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 03 2008 at 19:00
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Am I allowed to post discography discs (as in, containing all recorded material by a band)? Because if not my list will be very, very flawed. A very good alternative would be to allow EPs.


EPs count. Studio albums count. Live albums count.

Compilations do not. Sorry.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 03 2008 at 19:01
Rocktopus, please list all the classical works seperately. Otherwise I'll have one person say one album that includes Shostakovich's 4th but is a different album than what you said, and likely neither will make the list. Thanks.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 03 2008 at 19:03
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

I simply like the songs, atmospheres, melodies, production and flow of Good News better than all of them. I've never really been a Modest Mouse fan, but something about the album really struck me. I learned to like The Moon & Antarctica, but still not as much as Good News.


And, moreitsythanyou, if you like The Fire Theft, and early Sunny Day you'll more than likely enjoy the last two SDRE albums. They are basically a combination of the two sounds. The Fire Theft almost continues the evolution of the band.

I took your advice and picked up How It Feels to be Something On today. I'll tell you my thoughts when I listen to it.

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 04:45
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Rocktopus, please list all the classical works seperately. Otherwise I'll have one person say one album that includes Shostakovich's 4th but is a different album than what you said, and likely neither will make the list. Thanks.


I don't mind, but these are all actual album/CD releases. Where do I draw the line for classical work?


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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 12:26
Few no one mentioned :
 
Derek & the dominos - Layla & other assorted love songs
Kate Bush - The dreaming (her best IMO)
David Bowie - Aladin sane
Lou Reed - Berlin (this is a masterpiece)
Japan - Adolescent sex
Jericho - self titled
Winterconsort - self  titled
Winterconsort - Road
Lou Reed - Sally can't dance
Steely Dan - Aja
Nick Cave - The good son
Nick Cave - Murder balads
Nick Cave - Let love in
John Cale - Fragments of a rainy season
P.J. Harvey - Bring you my love
Tori Amos - Boys for Pele
Tori Amos - From the choirgirl hotel
The Smiths - Strangeways,here we come


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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 12:27
And Janis Joplin too.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 15:26
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Rocktopus, please list all the classical works seperately. Otherwise I'll have one person say one album that includes Shostakovich's 4th but is a different album than what you said, and likely neither will make the list. Thanks.
I don't mind, but these are all actual album/CD releases. Where do I draw the line for classical work?


Don't list versions, just works:

e.g.

Dmitri Shostakovich - 4th Symphony

and seperately:

Dmitri Shostakovich - 1st Symphony


That way, if someone likes the 4th symphony but has a different release than you do, it still counts towards the same entry. This is simply to eliminate confusion over different recordings of the same pieces of music.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 18:36
Bah, maybe I do mind a little. Its the double CD containing all Bartok's string quartets I love, not just one quartet. Same thing with the Bach LP, and the Fred Van Hove, Wolfgang Daune split-album.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 01:08
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Bah, maybe I do mind a little. Its the double CD containing all Bartok's string quartets I love, not just one quartet. Same thing with the Bach LP, and the Fred Van Hove, Wolfgang Daune split-album.


You can do it that way if you want but only if you want to guarantee it won't make the list.  I simply don't have the time to worry about different versions/recordings/compilations of classical works.  Sorry.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 01:09
Here's my updated list, I will continue to update it as I listen to more:

1.    Talking Heads – Remain in Light
2.    Tom Waits – Rain Dogs
3.    Wolf Parade – Apologies to the Queen Mary
4.    Charles Mingus – The Black Saint & the Sinner Lady
5.    Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation
6.    Joy Division – Closer
7.    Modest Mouse – The Moon & Antarctica
8.    My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
9.    A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory
10.    Pharoah Sanders – Karma
11.    Boards of Canada – Music Has the Right to Children
12.    Ornette Coleman – The Shape of Jazz to Come
13.    John Coltrane – A Love Supreme
14.    Wire – Chairs Missing
15.    Television – Marquee Moon
16.    The Smiths – The Queen is Dead
17.    Stereolab – Emperor Tomato Ketchup
18.    Neutral Milk Hotel – In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
19.    Nas – Illmatic
20.    The Avalanches – Since I Left You
21.    Joanna Newsom – Ys
22.    Glenn Branca – The Ascension
23.    Steve Reich – Music for 18 Musicians
24.    Moondog – Moondog (1969)
25.    Sufjan Stevens – Illinois
26.    Arcade Fire – Funeral
27.    Joy Division – Unknown Pleasures
28.    The Velvet Underground – The Velvet Underground & Nico
29.    DJ Shadow – Endtroducing…
30.    John Zorn – Naked City
31.    Massive Attack – Mezzanine
32.    Madvillain – Madvillainy
33.    Miles Davis – Bitches Brew
34.    John Zorn – The Big Gundown
35.    Fela Kuti – Gentleman
36.    Bjork – Homogenic
37.    GZA – Liquid Swords
38.    David Bowie – Low
39.    Refused – The Shape of Punk to Come
40.    John Zorn – Spillane
41.    Grizzly Bear – Yellow House
42.    Primal Scream – Screamadelica
43.    John Zorn – The Bribe
44.    John Coltrane – Blue Train
45.    Gang of Four – Entertainment!
46.    Talking Heads – More Songs About Building and Food
47.    Sly & the Family Stone – There’s a Riot Goin’ On
48.    Fela Kuti – Confusion
49.    Masada – Live in Sevilla 2000
50.    The Congos – Heart of the Congos
51.    Tom Waits – Swordfishtrombones
52.    Pixies – Doolittle
53.    Cocteau Twins – Treasure
54.    Wadada Leo Smith – Reflectativity
55.    Animal Collective – Strawberry Jam
56.    Nick Drake – Pink Moon
57.    The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
58.    The Notwist – Neon Golden
59.    Massive Attack – Blue Lines
60.    Culture – Two Sevens Clash
61.    John Zorn – The Circle Maker
62.    Fela Kuti – Zombie
63.    Talking Heads – Talking Heads: 77
64.    Slint – Spiderland
65.    XTC - Skylarking
66.    The Fiery Furnaces – Blueberry Boat
67.    Animal Collective – Feels
68.    David Bowie – Hunky Dory
69.    The Roots – Game Theory
70.    Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works 85-92
71.    LCD Soundsystem – Sound of Silver
72.    Ludwig Van Beethoven – Symphony #5
73.    Portishead – Third
74.    Dalek – Absence
75.    Miles Davis – Kind of Blue
76.    The Microphones – The Glow Pt. 2
77.    Pearl Jam – Ten
78.    Interpol – Turn on the Bright Lights
79.    Clap Your Hands Say Yeah – Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
80.    Daft Punk – Alive 2007
81.    …And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead – Source Tags & Codes
82.    Broken Social Scene – You Forgot It in People
83.    John Zorn – Six Litanies for Heliogabalus
84.    Scott Walker – The Drift
85.    Dalek – From Filthy Tongue of God and Griots
86.    Terry Riley – In C
87.    Bar Kokhba – Lucifer
88.    The Velvet Underground – White Light/White Heat
89.    Talking Heads – Fear of Music
90.    Outkast – Stankonia
91.    Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds – Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
92.    Sly & the Family Stone – Stand!
93.    The Microphones – It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water
94.    Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
95.    The Roots – Phrenology
96.    Boris – Pink
97.    UNKLE – Psyence Fiction
98.    Bauhaus – In the Flat Field
99.    John Zorn – Madness, Love, and Mysticism
100.    The National - Alligator



Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 01:33
^Ah, forgot about Grizzly Bear. Also, isn't Talk Talk in the archives?

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 01:42
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

^Ah, forgot about Grizzly Bear. Also, isn't Talk Talk in the archives?


Oh yeah, I'll have to cross them off.

EDIT: list now fixed.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 05:37
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Bah, maybe I do mind a little. Its the double CD containing all Bartok's string quartets I love, not just one quartet. Same thing with the Bach LP, and the Fred Van Hove, Wolfgang Daune split-album.


You can do it that way if you want but only if you want to guarantee it won't make the list.  I simply don't have the time to worry about different versions/recordings/compilations of classical works.  Sorry.


I understand. Its not so much of a problem, really. None of them will make the list anyway.

I'll split the Schubert/Schoenberg and Shostakovich 14 & 15 because it makes sense. But there's plenty of complete Bartok SQ releases (so that would be the natural way of owning/listening/relate to it for most), as they all fit within a doublealbum.





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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 11:31
Alright, fair enough.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 18:32
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Any genre goes, but nothing listed on PA (except in proto/related).



Didn't notice that last bit. Now I gotta make space for Kate Bush, Vangelis, David Bowie, Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin...

And Miles will soon be added here in Jazzfusion. Does he get the not-really-prog freepass like John Zorn? He is not really prog either.   


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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 05 2008 at 18:56
Since Miles isn't yet added, he is allowed.


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 12:18
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:



EPs count. Studio albums count. Live albums count.

Compilations do not. Sorry.


That's in fact the better option, hurray! Now I'll just have to figure out a top 100... I have some stuff listed but not in order.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 13:46
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:



EPs count. Studio albums count. Live albums count.

Compilations do not. Sorry.


That's in fact the better option, hurray! Now I'll just have to figure out a top 100... I have some stuff listed but not in order.


You've got a while to figure it out.


Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 14:08
Hey Pnoom! do Pop/Rock albums of Prog bands count? Eg: 90125 by Yes?


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 01:19
No.  Read the first post.


Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 08:34

Ah, nice – Another ‘loosing your credibility’ thread.

 

1)  Tori Amos  - American Doll Posse

2)   Deep Purple - In Rock

3)   Lucifer's Friend – Banquet

4)   XTC - Oranges & Lemons

5)   Megadeth - Rust In Peace

6)   Coroner – Coroner

7)   Steely Dan - Countdown To Ecstasy

8)   Linda Perry  - In Flight

9)   Strapping Young Lad – City

10)  Be Bop Deluxe - Modern Music

11) Grand Funk Railroad – Phoenix

12) Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority

13) Family - Music in a Doll's House

14) Rainmakers - The Rainmakers

15) Cat Stevens - Teaser And The Firecat

16) Grace Slick – Dreams

17) Titanic – Titanic (The Norwegan Band from the ‘70s, not the soundtrack!)

18) Last Things - Circles And Butterflies

19) Creedence Clearwater Revival- -Willy And The Poor Boys

20) Pestilence – Spheres

 
I don't seem to have many albums that qualify for this list.
 

I noticed that there was some sort of contoversy at the beginning of this thread. I didn't follow it, so if this is not relevant any more, please just disregard this.



Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 10:47
Quote I noticed that there was some sort of contoversy at the beginning of this thread. I didn't follow it, so if this is not relevant any more, please just disregard this.


It's irrelevant at this point.  This started out as a repeat of another thread started by someone else.  So I changed the purpose of this thread.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 08 2008 at 06:20
give me a day or so and I'll come up with something, probably 25 or 50, couldn't be arsed with a 100.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 03:51
My list if any one is interested. I'll put the genres next to each.
 

1. Kevin Drumm - Sheer Hellish Miasma (noise)

2. 3/4HadBeenEliminated - A Year of the Aural Guage Operation (electro-acoustic/post rock)

3. Corrupted - El Mundo Firo (doom metal)

4. Cunninlynguists - A piece of Strange (hip-hop)

5. AMM - Before Driving to the Chapel we Took Coffee with Rick and Jennifer Reed (improv)

6. Sachiko M / Toshimaru Nakamura / Otomo Yoshihide  - Good Morning Good Night (eai)
 
7. Graham Lambkin - Salmon Run (sound art)

8. Mal Waldron - The Quest (jazz)

9. Masayuki Takayanagi - Complete "La Grima" (free-jazz)

10. Morton Feldman - All Piano (modern classical)
 
11. DJ Screw - 3'n the Mornin': part two (hip-hop)
12. Portishead - Dummy (trip-hop)
13. Keith Rowe / John Tilbury - Duos for Doris (eai)
14. A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step (rock)
15. Subtle - For Hero:For Fool (indie/hip-hop)
16. Grachan Moncur III -  Some Other Stuff (jazz)
17. Boris - Amplifer Worship (doom metal)
18. Nmpergin / Lescalleet - Love Me Two Times (eai)
19 Greg Kelley - Trumpet (eai)
20. Summoning - Let Mortal Heroes Sing your Fame (black metal)
21. Birchvile Cat Motel - Chi Vampires (drone)
22. Pita - Get Out (noise)
23. Blonde Redhead - Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons (indie)
24. Martin Siewert / Martin Brandlymayr - Too Beautiful to Burn (eai)
25. The Necks - Chemist  (jazz)


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 05:27
I have seven right now, but I'm not sure if they're in the correct order. I have listed some stuff which I will make my way through today to decide on their placings.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 05:32
Alright.  I'd prefer lists of at least 20 albums if possible, please.


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 06:02
I'll try to do 20 before posting it! If I can't I'll stay out of this.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 12:56
Well I'd prefer a short list to no list, but if you can reach 20 at least that would be ideal.  Post it whatever you get though.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 14:47
Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

My list if any one is interested. I'll put the genres next to each.
 
(eai)
 


I'm interested. What genre is that?

Love Morton Feldman, but have never heard All Piano.  Defenetly gonna check it out.

Have you heard the the brand new release http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/arts/music/08cds.html?_r=1&oref=slogin - The Viola of My Life ? Its stunning.


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 23:03
What the hell...I'll participate in this one as well.
 
Might not get a full 100 though.


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 23:07
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

My list if any one is interested. I'll put the genres next to each.
 
(eai)
 


I'm interested. What genre is that?

Love Morton Feldman, but have never heard All Piano.  Defenetly gonna check it out.

Have you heard the the brand new release http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/arts/music/08cds.html?_r=1&oref=slogin - The Viola of My Life ? Its stunning.
 
it stands for, electro-acoustic improvisation. it is a reasonably tough genre to first jump into, but if you get into it it should prove exciting. for me it is probably for the most interesting direction music is taking these days. I definitely wouldn't suggest starting with something like Good Morning Good Night, a lot of sinewaves and very minimal. my suggestion for a beginning would be some of AMM's '90's albums (i.e. Before Driving to the Chapel....), while not strickly eai per se, tho' they are very closely related, they provide an easier entry point. This incarnation of AMM features Johnh Tilbury on Piano who plays All Piano, which i think is Feldman's at his best, regarding his piano work, 'tis a litle bit different from his earlier symphony styled classical pieces.
 
I've heard nothing but good things 'bout the new The Viola of My Life, but I've been struggling for money this year so my purchases have been very limited.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 10 2008 at 06:12
Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

 
(eai)
 


I'm interested. What genre is that?

 
it stands for, electro-acoustic improvisation.
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Ok, that I am familiar with, although not as in being into it. 

Got an AMM album too (It Had Been an Ordinary Enough Day in Pueblo, Colorado), but I rather try one of your reccomendations, than dig that one up.  


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Posted By: the_binkster
Date Posted: August 10 2008 at 18:03
  1. Miles Davis - A Kind Of Blue
  2. Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters
  3. Ali Farka Toure, Ry Cooder - Talking Timbuktu
  4. Wynton Marsalis, Arturo Sandoval - Los Elefantes
  5. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady
  6. Dire Straits - Love Over Gold
  7. Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
  8. Primal Scream - Screamdelica
  9. The Cinematic Orchestra - Every Day
  10. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
  11. Soundgarden - Superunknown
  12. Youngblood Brass Band - Word On The Street
  13. Cream - Disraeli Gears
  14. Audioslave - Audioslave
  15. Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band - Swingin' For The Fences
  16. B.B.King - Blues On The Bayou
  17. The Clash - London Calling
  18. The Police - Synchronicity
  19. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin 4 (Untitled)
  20. Manic Streeet Preachers - Generation Terrorists

- To be continued-

 



Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 10 2008 at 18:56
Remember, only lists PMed to me will be counted


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 11 2008 at 05:46
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Apsalar Apsalar wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

 
(eai)
 


I'm interested. What genre is that?

 
it stands for, electro-acoustic improvisation.


Ok, that I am familiar with, although not as in being into it. 

Got an AMM album too (It Had Been an Ordinary Enough Day in Pueblo, Colorado), but I rather try one of your reccomendations, than dig that one up.  
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that would be a good idea. It Had Been an Ordinary Enough Day in Pueblo, Colorado is not actually a true AMM album, so to speak. Often it gets labeled under AMM III which is just Keith Rowe and Eddie Prevost. Once I'm back at home I'll send you some more in depth recommendations as I'm currently aborad without my collection.


Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 19:09
Okay so basically Pnoom! left this site and promises not to come back. And this list is going along so nicely that I'll take it over in his absence (if he doesn't object).
Oh and don't worry about the PM'd list thing.

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