Prog-Rock Hall of Fame
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Topic: Prog-Rock Hall of Fame
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Subject: Prog-Rock Hall of Fame
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 19:19
Who would you have as the Inductees of a Prog-Rock Hall of Fame in its inaugural year?
This is just a question... I don't believe there is such a thing. Just think in terms of how the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame works... but better and without silly nominations like Madonna. ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
So, I'll start
Perfomer: Peter Gabriel Band: Genesis Song/tune: a toughy... erm... get back me on this Early Influences: cannot think of one for the moment Lifetime Achievement: Robert Wyatt Non-Performers: Steve Feigenbaum Sidemen/women: again, cannot think of one for the moment
Also, feel free to have any category you like, don't limit yourself to the above. Any thoughts and comments are welcome as well.
Debate is allowed but please keep it friendly. Thanks!
Apologies also if this is has a) been done before and b) deemed to be in the wrong section of the forum
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 20:16
Hummm.. I've been thinking about this recently and I also intended to write to Bill Gates asking support for a real building, with complete installations, auditorium, facilities; in the beginning air tickets will be needed too.
Well, to start off we'll need to add at least 50 bands/artists/performers to have a great pavillion (in the mentioned building I suppose). In the meantime, we should discuss the place to erect (sic) the said construction: Paris, Amsterdam, Rome, Québec (sic), London???
Later (after the 50 plus additions by royal decree) we should think about new inductions: 5-8 per year for acts with 20 years 'on the road': Anglagard, Symphony X and Porcupine Tree will need to wait a bit, no?
For the induction ceremony, bands must gig in the YYYYY ( insert name here) Auditorium... and since one of the first bands to be inducted will be Genesis, they'll have to perform together to validate the induction. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Again, Uncle Gates will be the sponsor, releasing the silver to make Gabriel and Collins play together.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 20:22
![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Great answer, Guigo! ![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif)
There's also the obligatory: sorry [insert name here] cannot be with us this evening, so we have asked Phil Collins to take the award on their behalf. However [insert name] did have this statement for us: "thanks to my fans, thanks, I hope to be there next year!". ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
I believe the Hall should be at Charterhouse or maybe Manchester University.
How about "The Chester Thompson Auditorium". ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 20:35
If there ever was a genre of music that would require awards per instrument: Here's prog baby! I mean Squire, Wakeman, Emerson, Palmer, Bruford and Peart have dominated rock polls for decades. But prog statuettes for guitar, keys, bass and drums would be par for the course. We could of course suggest PA as the "reputed firm" that would tabulate, verify and prepare "them there envelopes" . I would love to Emcee that event (I have experience with such farcical shows, plus who else here speaks 7 languages and knows a bit about prog? ) . Just joking, I was dreaming of Billy Cristal , again.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 20:38
'...and here to present the award for "best vocal performance in prog, 2009", is James, formerly Geck0, of Prog Archives.com, your ULTIMATE PROG ROCK RESOURCE! and Samantha Fox, of Page 3 fame.'
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 20:52
45107 posts ???James.......How did you manage that number??/ whoah!!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:01
febus wrote:
45107 posts ???James.......How did you manage that number??/ whoah!! |
I think that should be: rather than ![Thumbs%20Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
And don't ask... ![Embarrassed](smileys/smiley9.gif) ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
Just posting rubbish mostly... well, not here, I mean in some other section that is evil and corrupt. ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:06
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:07
The Suede Room and it's previous incarnations. ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:14
Aha! Those darn scandinavians (suede ) corrupting the universe ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 05:59
tszirmay wrote:
Aha! Those darn scandinavians (suede ) corrupting the universe ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif) |
I dont know about the universe, but Velvetclown certainly did his bit to corrupt this place!![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
BTW, who gets the award for best codpiece?![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 09:09
If there was ever a prog rock hall of fame. They would have a Huge statue of phil collins as soon as you walk in.
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 11:16
I suggest that Teatr Śląski in Katowice would be nice temporary venue for such event
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 13:33
RaphaelT wrote:
I suggest that Teatr Śląski in Katowice would be nice temporary venue for such event |
and for those who don't speak polish, how the hell are we supposed to find that place ? ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 13:36
Atkingani wrote:
Hummm.. I've been thinking about this recently and I also intended to write to Bill Gates asking support for a real building, with complete installations, auditorium, facilities; in the beginning air tickets will be needed too.
Well, to start off we'll need to add at least 50 bands/artists/performers to have a great pavillion (in the mentioned building I suppose). In the meantime, we should discuss the place to erect (sic) the said construction: Paris, Amsterdam, Rome, Québec (sic), London???
Later (after the 50 plus additions by royal decree) we should think about new inductions: 5-8 per year for acts with 20 years 'on the road': Anglagard, Symphony X and Porcupine Tree will need to wait a bit, no?
For the induction ceremony, bands must gig in the YYYYY ( insert name here) Auditorium... and since one of the first bands to be inducted will be Genesis, they'll have to perform together to validate the induction. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Again, Uncle Gates will be the sponsor, releasing the silver to make Gabriel and Collins play together. |
nice answer Guigo! ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif) ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
BTW, gotta agree that we need a gigantic statue of Phill Collins on the entrance of the venue .
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 17:05
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 17:05
CCVP wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
I suggest that Teatr Śląski in Katowice would be nice temporary venue for such event |
and for those who don't speak polish, how the hell are we supposed to find that place ? ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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It's the Śląski Theatre, in Katowice, have you not heard of it? ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
How about the hall be in Latvia, near that Frank Zappa statue? ![Big%20smile](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 18:36
Well, can you suggest a venue closer to me? Its hard to find its exact location when it is over 9 thousand kilometers away
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 11:18
jwxlite wrote:
If there was ever a prog rock hall of fame. They would have a Huge statue of phil collins as soon as you walk in. |
http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com/ - http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com/
What I can't figure, in a year of excellent and original jazz rock releases, that Mahavishnu Project (not bad admittedly but effectively a covers album) Return to the Emerald Beyond wins the prize. Does this come from having to subscribe before you can have voting rights therefore selection is by comparativley few??
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 12:23
Dick Heath wrote:
jwxlite wrote:
If there was ever a prog rock hall of fame. They would have a Huge statue of phil collins as soon as you walk in. |
http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com/ - http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com/
What I can't figure, in a year of excellent and original jazz rock releases, that Mahavishnu Project (not bad admittedly but effectively a covers album) Return to the Emerald Beyond wins the prize. Does this come from having to subscribe before you can have voting rights therefore selection is by comparativley few?? |
Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Rush, Jordan Rudess all won awards ![Big%20smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 16:13
CCVP wrote:
Well, can you suggest a venue closer to me? Its hard to find its exact location when it is over 9 thousand kilometers away . |
Atlantis would be perfect place, equal distance from each site in world ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 17:50
RaphaelT wrote:
I suggest that Teatr Śląski in Katowice would be nice temporary venue for such event |
Even if the event isn't held there, I nominate this beautiful, beautiful venue that is chock full of prog love for an award in it's own right!
It would be just plain rude not to surely? ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
So back to the "venue" debate, it should be hosted in a secret location and broadcast over the web...... it's the only way to please the "why isn't in my back yard" brigade........ ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 18:08
Oh... there is a Progressive Rock Hall of Fame! ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
I should have done my research before starting this thread.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 18:13
James wrote:
CCVP wrote:
RaphaelT wrote:
I suggest that Teatr Śląski in Katowice would be nice temporary venue for such event |
and for those who don't speak polish, how the hell are we supposed to find that place ? ![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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It's the Śląski Theatre, in Katowice, have you not heard of it? ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
How about the hall be in Latvia, near that Frank Zappa statue? ![Big%20smile](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Lithuania, actually.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 18:15
I thought that at the time and almost wrote Lithuania... I picked the wrong one.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 08:57
James wrote:
Oh... there is a Progressive Rock Hall of Fame! ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
I should have done my research before starting this thread.
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I suspect it is piddling organisation, and certainly the need to pay money to be part of it, before you get voting rights is off-putting. I was shocked when the art director for Holdsworth's 16 Men Of Tain, told me he was seriously thinking of nominating his artwork for a Grammy - I hadn't appreciated you could nominate your own work for these so-called pretigious award - but he didn't in the end. So I'm cynical in the extreme wrt to these awards with so few involved with nomination and then voting - I would far more faith if the whole of the membership of Prog Archives, Prog Ears, Gibaltar, etc. . were asked to nominate and then vote. Also remember too mnay of the top 10 or 100 polls read in magazine or on TV, are based on comparatively biassed small committees coming up with 150% of the necessary names (and you can guess done in the local pub), and then limiting voters to those nominees and no others.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 09:22
Dick Heath wrote:
I was shocked when the art director for Holdsworth's 16 Men Of Tain, told me he was seriously thinking of nominating his artwork for a Grammy - I hadn't appreciated you could nominate your own work for these so-called pretigious award - but he didn't in the end. |
Are those the same 16 men of Tain; http://www.tain.org.uk/glenmorangie-distillery-g.asp - http://www.tain.org.uk/glenmorangie-distillery-g.asp - if so, they surely deserve an award for bringing so much pleasure to mankind ![LOL](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 17:52
James wrote:
I thought that at the time and almost wrote Lithuania... I picked the wrong one.
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It's in Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania. I was there. ![Big%20smile](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: July 29 2008 at 19:26
Dick Heath wrote:
James wrote:
Oh... there is a Progressive Rock Hall of Fame! ![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
I should have done my research before starting this thread.
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I suspect it is piddling organisation, and certainly the need to pay money to be part of it, before you get voting rights is off-putting. I was shocked when the art director for Holdsworth's 16 Men Of Tain, told me he was seriously thinking of nominating his artwork for a Grammy - I hadn't appreciated you could nominate your own work for these so-called prestigious award - but he didn't in the end. So I'm cynical in the extreme wrt to these awards with so few involved with nomination and then voting - I would far more faith if the whole of the membership of Prog Archives, Prog Ears, Gibraltar, etc. . were asked to nominate and then vote. Also remember too many of the top 10 or 100 polls read in magazine or on TV, are based on comparatively based small committees coming up with 150% of the necessary names (and you can guess done in the local pub), and then limiting voters to those nominees and no others. |
Your probably right Dick. I have met Laurie Larson before whose idea this was and she in no musicoligist . Notice how slanted to just English and American artists it is? I agree they should get other sponsors than asking people to pay to vote. It is a good idea but just like the R&R HOF it is just a select few who will control it. Too bad.
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