20 prog albums not in PA
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Topic: 20 prog albums not in PA
Posted By: tszirmay
Subject: 20 prog albums not in PA
Date Posted: June 29 2008 at 23:16
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20 prog albums not listed in PA 1- Alpha-Ralpha (F) same 1977 2- Hobson’s Choice ( 3- Wilding-Bonus ( 4- Michael Bundt (D) Just Landed Cosmic Cowboy 1977 5- Sergio Alvarez (Arg) Escenes de Ficcion 2000 6- Adrian Wagner ( 7- Caldera (Arg) Time & Change 1978 8- Grime (F) same 1979 9- Inkabb Holnap (H) Tomorrow Instead 2003 10- Iain Jennings ( 11- Joachim Kühn (D) Sunshower 1974 12- Lancaster-Lumley ( 13- Lost Tales (I) A Volo Radente 1999 14- Neo (F) same 1980 15- Nightales (USA) The Voyage 1996 16- Raison de Plus (F) Ici est Ailleurs 2001 17- Secret Cinema (I) Dreamin’ of my Past 1994 18- Mark Shreeve ( 19- St-Tropez (I) Icarus 1978 20- Tritonus (D) Between the Universes 1976 Comments, anyone?------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 00:19
| Excellent list, Thomas, but why not in the Suggest Bands section? According to the site rules, if these bands have one prog album, they should be here. |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 01:04
At this point, it would be a harder task to find 20 non-prog albums not on PA 
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 02:10
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can you indicate which genres these albums and bands would fit under? From your forum posts I'd guess they are mostly symph and electronic, not my prime concern, so I only know St. Tropez from the list... ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 03:08
Interesting, would that let Dire Straits in? /One of the main arguments I've seen against their inclusion is that only Love Over Gold is progressive, and I've seen very few suggestions that that album isn't prog. Frankly, I don't really mind either way, since it saves me writing a five star review. |
Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 03:10
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Telegraph Road sure as hell is prog, but the rest... meeeeeeh, no. Great music, not really prog though. Although there should be some kind of Dire Straits appreciation somewhere. [Edit] - although I don't know that all bands are judged by that one album rule, otherwise Helloween would be here for Keeper Of The Seven Keys (three albums)... IMO anyways!  |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 03:27
Hm. I'd have considered the tense, atmospheric Private Investigations the unquantifiably most prog thing on the album (tense, atmospheric, psychedelic and unusual). Love Over Gold and It Never Rains similarly violate structure as much as anything. Even the sarcy thing (Industrial Disease, IIRC) has some odd undertones and choices. I'd be fine with them not making the cut, even if I think that album is more progressive than Moonmadness and Moving Pictures put together |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 03:33
bahahaha, ouch to the Rush fanboy  You're probably right, but it's been a while since I listened to that album. Maybe I'll put that on next... or tomorrow morning when I get up. 'Tis late over here in Rush land (Canada) |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 07:57
| The bands need to be added to PA before the albums can, so you need to propose the artists via the Suggest New Bands thread. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 08:08
This is what I've heard, at least... To have all bands included here that had at least ONE prog album. However, don't take my words as gospel, since I am anything but infallible
 .As regards Dire Straits, they have always been favourites of mine, and just this morning, while getting ready for work, I was listening to their Alchemy live album. Unfortunately, I think you will have understood that here many people go for labels rather than actual musical content... When I added Iron Maiden, all hell broke loose, because there were people who only saw the 'metal' label on them, and deliberately ignored the progressive content of their music (especially their most recent albums).
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 09:43
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The list contains only outright prog artists/albums, nothing even remotely outside of the genre and sub-genres. I posted here because it's a list and I am not suggesting INCLUSION , just response or comment on whether someone out there has heard any of these "unknown" gems. Then , individually, I would consider escorting them to the suggest bands thread. And get the admins to eveluate each one that has had a response! That's OK, no? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 11:16
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Back to the point
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 13:04
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I've got Wilding-Bonus Pleasure Signals on CD Joachim Kühn Sunshower and another good one by him somewhere in my LP collection.------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 13:56
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Hello Thomas.
Interesting lists, here are my comments about it:
2- Hobson’s Choice ( I have helped Bhikkhu with information because I have reviewed this CD for Progwalhalla but it seems that he has left PA.
5- Sergio Alvarez (Arg) Escenes de Ficcion 2000 This Argentine keyboard virtuoso promised me to send me a promo CD, I hope to write about him in the Progwalhalla thread.
10- Iain Jennings ( I have reviewed this CD in the Progwalhalla thread, like other non PA bands Nemezis, Moonrise, Tricantropus, Alma (featuring the Nexus guitarplayer) and Signs Of One, good luck
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 14:06
Haven't heard Sunshower, but Springfever with Philip Catherine on guitar is excellent - haven't played it for a while, so this is a timely reminder.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 15:50
I agree. Today I listened to the entire Love Over Gold and if there are pretty much othe PR bands here, this must surely be. But well I already read in The Dire Straits suggestion and it really wasn't taken well. Also Alchemy, their live album, has lots of jams, very proggy for that type of band. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 16:35
That's the other one, thanks for the reminder.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 17:55
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St. Tropez is one I've had my eye on adding for some time... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:06
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Perhaps Bald Friede can clue us in on Bundt, Tritonus and Kuhn (Akkerman on guitar) , they are most definitely worthy of at the very least some discussion. Wilding-Bonus amd Lancaster-Lumley are Brand X offshoots . Adrian Wagner was a Hawkwind session player (mostly with Calvert) , Caldera is jazz-rock, Hobson's Choice is a US band that made a fabulous symph album. Jennings is a member of Mostly Autumn, Secret Cinema deserves finnforest bloodhound nose, as well as Lost Tales, both good ISP symph. Grime, Raison de Plus and Alpha-Ralpha are good unknown French bands, from different eras. Thanks for the input everyone, keep on sifting . ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:07
Both albums I listed (^) are pretty decent, no? any comments on them? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:15
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taking Secret Cinema and Lost Tales to the RPI/ISP/WWF/NFL team for evalution.. was going to do up our next eval list anyway thanks Thomas  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:22
What , no CNN/CIA/NSA/MSNBC?  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:25
maybe next time ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 18:28
You are right 2 can broadcast and 2 can wiretap ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 21:25
what about the 2 that are doing RPI screenings hahahha Lost Tales, and Secret Cinema are approved for addition... your word was as good as gold. Any info you have on the groups and the albums.. go ahead and PM it to me and we'll get them added. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 21:52
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Now I know why they call you the Big Mick, "powerful" connections, channel locks , sense of humour, glass of water and all...... ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 21:55
yeah.. some clown wanted me to drop the M from my screen name and go by the Big Ick.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 22:01
Geez, mick, I wouldn't call her that...you know, she still visits here from time to time...  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 22:18
hahhahahahha... ahhhh.. leaving that one alone... but OHHHH.. could I have fun with that one ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 00:13
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I think Electric Ladyland , Disraeli Gears and Biches Brew/Sketches of Spain would be very good , he says putting some presure to the site admins. |
Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 06:01
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Yesterday I filled in the new bands form to suggest that Days Between Stations are added to the Archives. Any idea how long it might take to get an answer either way? -------------  Open the gates of the city wide....
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Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 08:31
Two albums that I've gotten into lately that I'd consider fusion:   |
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Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 17:39
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 18:45
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Ruben Rada - La Banda
for fusion. |
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Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 08:37
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