pop like prog
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Topic: pop like prog
Posted By: video vertigo
Subject: pop like prog
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 01:29
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Marillion's "cover my eyes", Spock's Beard's "wind at my back" Neal Morse "the Change" Dream Theater's "The Silent Man" and others I personally love these songs, but are they attempts by the bands at getting more mainstream and radio-playable or am I hallucinating and this is really prog in true form? ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
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Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 04:14
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I think it's just them writing another song really. Where they feel they wanna break away from the "Progginess" and play one or two songs that are more easy-listening. Meh, does that make sense? |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 01:43
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I think its a good thing, its like the one or two good things of pop mixed with the multitude of goodness of prog. Yay for sentimental prog ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: Adphant
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 01:46
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Maybe they are only modest... |
Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 01:50
Shouldn't it be "prog that sounds like pop" rather than "pop that sounds like prog"? 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 03:24
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------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
penguindf12 wrote:
I guess so Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:21
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Yeah... methinks he's right.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:25
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Bang from the top of my head Yes 'Owner of a lonely heart'
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Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:32
| Well, Lucky Man, as well... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:36
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Well a comment like that will find you claiming that every prog band who had an hit singles would be a pop single?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:39
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I think a topic like this could be very intresting but at the same time could get out of control. If anyone has say a copy of Pink Floyds 'UMMAGUMMA' you'll find on the rear of the vinyl sleeve in small print under the Catalogue number ...**FILED UNDER POPULAR MUSIC**... Pop music is short for popular music,Is Ummagumma pop then? I think not.
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Posted By: mirco
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 07:51
So you can state that a Yes song is pop, but can't stand the affirmation that a ELP song is pop? Very democratic, sir. BTW, I do think that both songs ARE pop-ish. Which doesn't means that are bad songs. ------------- Please forgive me for my crappy english! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:14
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I've never found a neo-prog band that isn't guilty of recording their
fair share of pop songs. That's why I've basically given up on them
altogether. The reason I started listening to prog was because I hated
pop. It didn't excite me, it didn't challenge me. If I'd wanted cosy
little tunes then I would never have got into prog. Personally I can't
get my head round Yes fans who claim to love 90125 as much as Close to
the Edge or Relayer... they're two different bands! One plays complex,
grandiose, intelligent music and the other plays tame, cheesey
synth-pop for the radio. For me, a pop song on a prog album is nothing
more than a blemish. But hey, I can't stand Spock's Beard anyway. They've never played a progressive note in their life. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:17
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what about "turn it on again" by genesis, "money" and "another brick in the wall (part two)" by pink floyd, "mr roboto" by styx. ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:31
Why is it that prog bands write the best pop songs? "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and "Mr. Roboto" are two guilty pleasures that I find an absolute joy to listen to... Maybe it's that I like pop afterall, but I need it to be in the guise of prog in order to personally justify it... 
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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:47
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That would cover most of neo-prog, art rock, AOR. My guilty pleasures are: early Saga, Kate Bush, Queen, Toto, Styx, Ambrosia, Roxy Music, The Alan Parsons Project, Boston, 10cc, XTC... Some stuff is cheezy but still more intertaining than regular pop. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 10:24
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What do you mean? They are not Prog rock? How come? Too tuneful I expect. too many good melodies for you! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 15:30
I mean they are not progressive. They do nothing new. They are not in the least bit innovative or adventurous. Their music is a mish mash of the very worst aspects of Yes, Genesis and ELP. Still, each to his own, I gues.. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 20:18
Sorry to dissapoint you but '90125' is a total embarresment to the name of past yes.The album is a pathetic excuse for an album.It is 100% pop music for the radio. Lucky man may be a catchy tune but for crying out loaud it's not a pop song..
Linda back me up quick i feel a crap responce a coming |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 22:41
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90125 is genius. why is it so accessible? Trevor
Horn produced this gem after producing Who's Afraid of...., he is one of the genius's that got away from the record companies for a couple of albums. Jon saw the genius as he did with Vangelis, Tangerine Dream and Kitaro and cashed in on it. Hey, you didnt have any progressive rock output from England in the 80s except Peter Gabriel -3. Art of Noise - whose afraid of ..... and Yes - 90125, better take what you can get, the recording industry was drying out your brain! Forget the past this is better AOR than YES ever created, lyrically much more revealing then they had ever been and the songs are very well written. I am a veteran of the progressive scene and you got some of the best after Relayer from 90125 if you knew it or not! 
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Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 22:48
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PAVLOV's DOG ... my personal art rock favorite (and what a remarkable resemblance to Geddy Lee on vocals)
------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |