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Topic: real epics
Posted By: rick gryphon
Subject: real epics
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 04:37
hello there i love prog rock with a story what are the longest tracks telling a story i have galleon land on ocean it is 52 mins long what are the best others they must be over 20 mins long....



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 07:32
One of my favourites is "Wassilissa" by Mother Gong from their album "Fairy Tales". It is a 22:28 track. The other two tracks on that album are shorter than twenty minutes but by no means short (12:41 and 14:38). And all three tracks definitely tell a story; that's what the whole album is about. The two shorter stories are connected, by the way; the hero in both is the same. So one could see them as one story in two parts.


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Posted By: ian picken
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:13
Transatlantic have some of the best epic long tracks ever. Most early Rush albums have long tracks on them and of course they are stunning.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:07
Most early Rush albums? I can only think of side 2 of Caress of Steel, which is really separate songs and Hemispheres, which may be less than 20 minutes.


Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 10:23
The Flower Kings - Garden of Dreams (59:57) (But i see it as a number of songs, and it consists of 18 "parts" or songs)
The Flower Kings - Stardust we Are (25:02)
The Flower Kings - I am the Sun (both parts) (25:51)
The Flower Kings - The Truth will set you free (30:40)
The Flower Kings - Devils Playground (24:30)
The Flower Kings - Monsters & Men (21:21)
The Flower Kings - Love is the Only Answer (25:50) (Put together pretty bad. It feels like a shorter epic with some additional song(s) at the end)

Wink


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 11:18

while i really love epics, there are a lot of bad ones because they put together random instrumental parts in between verses in order to make their songs longer. either that, or the epics are actually different songs (like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which doesn't have any flow between its parts [aka you can tell that they're different tracks]).

in fact, I will also ask for some real epics which don't have cut and paste instrumentals (aka, songs which sound like one complete composition that doesn't sound as though they were running out of ideas).


Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 22:55
Between the Buried and Me - Colors
Dream Theater - AA Suite (not yet finished)


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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:03
Originally posted by preqT0THEseq7 preqT0THEseq7 wrote:

Between the Buried and Me - Colors
Dream Theater - AA Suite (not yet finished)
 
Nice to see you around the neighborhood my good friend Wink


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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:05
DT:
-ITPOE
-6 Degrees of Inner Turbulance
-A Mind Beside Itself : Erotomani, Voices, Silent Man
-Metropolis (pt 1 + SFAM)
-AA Suite
 
BTBAM : Colors
Genesis : Suppers Ready
 
many others. many many others.


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:06
^Ah yes, Colors as a whole album is just epic IMO too.
One up for SFAM too and the AA suite.


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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:07
Nice to see you too my aquaintence


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:07
"Deafening Silence" by IZZ


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:36
Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers - VDGG
Cassandra Gemini - The Mars Volta
The Great Nothing - Spock's Beard
All TFKs ones mentioned above
All Of The Above - Transatlantic
TAAB - Jethro Tull

They don't all have a story to tell, but they are all quality listens.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 18:21
Gates of Delirium - Yes (21 min)
The Revealing Science of God - Yes (20 min)
The Remembering - Yes (20 min)
Nous Sommes Du Solei - Yes (21 min)
TAAB - Jethro Tull (22 min)
APP - Jethro Tull (22 min)
Supper's Ready - Genesis (21 min)
Tarkus - ELP (20 min)

though dunno if these all have the requisites you're asking.


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 20:27
My favorite one:    SOLAR MUSIC Heartfrom german band GROBSCHNITT with many live recordings going from 50mns to 80 mns. no less......wonderful space/rock with great musicianship .
 
Don't believe me?? just read the different reviews of this album on PA! ..a fantastic experience!


Posted By: SilverEclipse
Date Posted: June 25 2008 at 11:29
They are all destroyed by

The Second Stage Turbine Blade - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 - Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Volume One: From Fear Through The Eyes Of Madness - Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World For Tomorrow - Coheed & Cambria

...coming in at 4 hours, 10 minutes, 1 seconds

as a new-prog-head, I had to do it : P


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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 04:16
Story or not Nine feet underground is the best epic song ever made. And A plague of lighthouse keepers is not far behind and that one even got a story. Tongue

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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 04:40
While i really LOVE "Nine Feet Underground", i don't see it as a real "epic", but as a long song with several parts.
Just as Caravan's other long songs, like "With an Ear to the ground you can make it / Martininan / Only Cox / Reprise" and "Can't be long now / Francoise / For Richard / Warlock".


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 23:03
Meridian-Dirge
Troy landmammal- Confer
psychoparasite-Silence kit
Hyracotherium-Equus
March into the sea-Pelican
East Hastings-GY!BE
Storm-GY!BE
Rockets fall on rockets fall-GY!BE
Ghost soldiers-Johnny twentythree
Suppers ready-Genesis
All songs twenty mintes long by Yes.


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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 30 2008 at 23:23
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Most early Rush albums? I can only think of side 2 of Caress of Steel, which is really separate songs and Hemispheres, which may be less than 20 minutes.
 
2112?!?!?!?!? n00b Tongue


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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: July 01 2008 at 03:03
have you heard the song "Stefan, the Shepherd Boy" by Olive Mess, from their "Gramercy" album? it's over twenty minutes and is definitely telling a story, in a sacred music kind of way - much of the piece is just for voice and a guitar playing medieval type progressions and cadences, but it progresses into a sort of psychedelic folk rock as it goes on. It's really something; very hidden from symph prog fans since Olive Mess are in avant, or zeuhl, but it's a great and really memorable piece of music. I know avestin would agree. =)


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: July 02 2008 at 09:46
Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness - Green Carnation

Hardcore baby


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Posted By: Geddy_Lee_Forever
Date Posted: July 02 2008 at 14:15
2112
The Fountain of Lamneth (by Rush)
Close to the Edge (Yes)
Thick As A Brick (Jethro Tull)
Karn Evil 9 (Whole song)(ELP)

and many others that I just can't think of right now


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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: July 02 2008 at 15:11
Rush - Cygnus: Book 2
Rush - Xanadu
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Symphony X - Candlelight Fantasia
Yes - And You and I
Yes - Starship Trooper
Porcupine Tree - Arriving Somewhere, Not Here
 


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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: July 02 2008 at 16:36

Dream Theater's In the Presense of Enemies, 6 Degrees, Octavarium. (And I'd like to see the AA Suite finished)

Rush's 2112 of course.
 
Porcupine Tree's Aesthenized [I know its not over 20 minutes, but its certainly epic].
 
And I think I could comply with Colors as well.


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Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: July 06 2008 at 10:37
Renaissance - Song of Scheherazade

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Posted By: psychomonkey62
Date Posted: July 07 2008 at 11:24
The Odyssey by Symphony X is a great one. It gets truly epic near the end. Maybe The Divine Wings of Tragedy too.

Light of Day, Day of Darkness is an awesome song clocking in at a full 60 minutes, but it's a tad depressing/melancholy.


Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: July 11 2008 at 04:48

Ok, I'm going to recommend ALBUMS that tell a story. 

Rick Wakeman -- Journey to the Center of the Earth
Jon Anderson -- Olias of Sunhillow
Jeff Wayne -- War of the Worlds
The Moody Blues -- Days of Future Passed
Rick Wakeman -- No Earthly Connection
Frank Zappa -- Joe's Garage
Rain -- Cerulean Blue
Pallas -- The Sentinel (Ignore the first three tracks.)
Triumvirat -- Pompeii
 
EDIT:  Symphony X -- V: The New Mythology Suite might or might not qualify as well, as might Queensryche -- Operation: Mindcryme.


Posted By: Takeshi Kovacs
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 10:02
Just sorted my iTunes by time order, and there are so many over 20 mins, it would take too long to list them. Here are the ones that are between 20 and 21 minutes long for example:

Ride - Grayceon 20:00
Halloween Part I - Pulsar 20:01
Lifelines - Eyestrings 20:01
The Narrow Margin - IQ 20:01
In Earnest - The Tangent 20:04
Apprentis Sorciers - Nemo 20:05
Change - Magic Pie 20:05
Sequences - Twelfth Night 20:06
Ommadawn Part 1 - Mike Oldfield 20:08
Le Guardien - Nil 20:12
Black Rose Immortal - Opeth 20:15
Artificial Paradise - Sylvan 20:17
Mr Doctor - Devil Doll 20:17
Olim Sol Rogavit Terram II - Deus Ex Machina 20:23
Second Movement - Clearlight 20:26
First Movement - Clearlight 20:27
Behind The Great Beyond - Glass Hammer 20:27
Atem - Tangerine Dream 20:28
Nella Sala Vuota, Improvvisazioni dei New Trolls Registrate In Diretta - New Trolls 20:29
Madre Di Cose Perdute - Garybaldi 20:30
Mumps - Hatfield And The North 20:31
The Revealing Science Of God - Yes 20:32
The Ballad Of Samuel Layne - Magenta 20:36
2112 - Rush 20:39
Le Premier Ciel - Harmonium 20:39
Trakus - ELP 20:42
Chupacabras - Phideaux 20:42
Rockets Fall On Rocket Falls - Godspeed You Black Emperor! 20:43
The Divine Wings Of Tragedy - Symphony X 20:43
Spirit Of Peace Pt 1,2,3 - Popol Vuh 20:45
Tone Float - Kraftwerk 20:45
Zarathustra - Museo Rosenbach 20:47
Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild - Van Der Graaf Generator 20:51
Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape - Porcupine Tree 20:52
Memento Z Banalnym Tryptykiem - SBB 20:53
Atlantis Agony at June 5th - 8498, 13 P.M. Gregorian Earthtime - Eloy 20:56
Falcon Suite - Like Wendy 20:56

That's it! The longest I have is Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness by Green Carnation weighing in at 1 hour.



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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 13:57
Man, I's loves me a good epic from time to time. Some of my favorites are:

Marillion's "This Strange Engine" and "Ocean Cloud" (not over 20 minutes, but close)
Genesis' "Supper's Ready"
The Flower Kings' "The Truth Will Set You Free", "Stardust We Are", and "Garden Of Dreams"
Frost's* "Milliontown"
Spock's Beard's "The Great Nothing"
Transatlantic's "Duel With The Devil"
, "All Of The Above", and "Stranger In Your Soul"
Neal's Morse's "The Conflict"
Dream Theater's "In The Presence Of Enemies"
, "A Change Of Seasons", "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence", and "Octavarium"
IQ's "Harvest Of Souls", "The Narrow Margin"
, and "The Last Human Gateway"
IZZ's "Deafening Silence"
Yes's "Close To The Edge", "Awaken"
, and "Endless Dream"
The Gift's "Awake & Dreaming"
The Tangent's "In Earnest"
Arena's
"Moviedrome"
Magic Pie's "Change"

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 20 2008 at 19:17
Frank Zappa - The Adventures of Greggory Peccary LOL

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