The best prog Band from Germany
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Topic: The best prog Band from Germany
Posted By: venemarg
Subject: The best prog Band from Germany
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 16:11
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Since there has been a lot of discussions about many topics, some of them not even related to the one we may be concern about. Let´s dig in to German Prog to see how we do. I'll start out with "Grobschnitt" and "Versus X"
what do you guys say???
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Posted By: mr_freeze338
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 16:26
| I'm saying Superior. Can't tell you much about them, just give the sample songs a try. |
Posted By: venemarg
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 16:39
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I'll give it a try, however it looks like Prog Metal to me. Not much into it!!!
TXS!!! |
Posted By: mr_freeze338
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 16:42
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It's very much progressive metal, but they seem to put alot of emphasis on keyboards. Not sure if that appeals to you. Just download "Why" first, and ignore everything else. |
Posted By: venemarg
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 17:01
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I'll do that, actually downloading is in progress!! But you haven't told me if you have ever listen to any of the Bands I mentioned, have you?, if not you should also give it a try!!! |
Posted By: decypher
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 17:11
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Sieges Even are releasing a new album quite soon... yours, I know, progmetal. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 17:13
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Try Orange peel by Orange peel,fantastic!
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 20:44
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I recommend these bands from Germany: Eden - Erwartung. Renaissance inspired prog rock with female vocals. Eloy - Colours. spacey floydian prog. Epidaurus - Earthly Paradise. dual mellotron/keyboard symphonic prog Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live. symphonic prog. Hoelderlin - Holderlin's Traum. prog rock with a folk touch. Ivory - Sad Cypress. symphonic prog. Kraan - Kraan. rock with long jazz-tinged tracks. Lightshine - Feeling. prog rock with fuzz guitar and dreamy atmospheres. Novalis - Sommerabend. prog rock. Orange Peel - Orange Peel. heavy hammond organ dominated prog rock. Pell Mell - Marburg. heavy guitar prog/hard rock. Rebekka - Phoenix. prog rock with female vocals similar to Renaissance. Rousseau - Square the Circle. prog rock similar to Camel. Satin Whale - Desert Places. Prog rock with flute.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 20:45
Christ there is light at the end of the tunnel...some ones actuially commented about the Orange peel album
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Possessed wrote:
Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 20:54
| ooo i am well versed in the germon prog rock sceence! they are my favorite! i guess the biggest and probly the best out of germany is Can. if you haven heard tago mago, buy it now. Its a Crazy rollercoster ride it is! then go for amonduul. some SWEET ASS jamming there! serously, ! 3rd would go to Ash ra Tempel> ! nothing can compare will there Spralling Gut Turning SOund Which is tooo sxcary to listen to alone! then eloy is 4th ! so 1.can2.amonduul.3.ashratemple! Thjese are the pinnicle of the germon prog roxck seen, and mago tago is one of the pinncle prog cd's ! defently in top 10~ |
Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 20:57
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GROBSCHNITT! already mentioned a few times but worthy of it, one of my favorite bands... IMO you can't lose with any of their first five albums... Rockpommel's Land being my very favorite...
------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |
Posted By: mr_freeze338
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 21:21
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Venemarg, I'll definitely give those bands a try. Sieges Even does kick ass, I forgot to mention them. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 21:28
<- = GOOD CALL ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 21:54
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I know you guys are sick of me......but
If you like Dark Side of the Moon influenced music from germany, I think you guys would find alot of interest in these bands. That is if you dont mind dumping the bad english of the above mentioned or german language which I only have a basic vocabulary of. Anyway avoiding the english critics early Krautrock phase which is very psychedelic, experimental and uneven. Michael Hoenig - Departures From a Northern Wasteland Klaus Schulze - Moondawn Cluster - Zuckerzeit Ashra - New Age of Earth Conrad Schnitzler - Ballet Statique Yatha Sidra - A Meditation Mass Ashra - Blackouts Neu! - 75 Micheal Rother - Katzenmusik Guru Guru - Kanguru Schicke, Fuhrs & Froeling - Symphonic Pictures and of course mid period Kraan has good english lyrics, as does Jane - Together. Many mid and late 70s german mediocre band tried to duplicate what Conny Plank and Dieter Derks produced and engineered in the early 70s, setting the standard, which I feel never was surpassed. Plank and Derks graduating to progressive electronics or Kosmiche musik! some of the best early Krautrock Can - Tago Mago, Ege Basyami Amon Duul 2 - Yeti, Tanz der Lemminge Agitation Free - Malesch Guru Guru - UFO Ash Ra Temple - same even a baby kangaroo cant stay in mommas pouch forever! 
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: April 06 2005 at 22:41
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Schicke, Fuhrs & Frohling!! My all-time German prog act Similarities to: Pulsar, Novalis, "Moon Madness"-era Camel, "Stratosfear"-era TD, some hints to jazz fusion, with an overall sound of their own. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 01:12
try Fuhrs & Frohling-Ammerland! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 04:38
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I normally hate German prog but there are four albums I can listen to without feeling sick:
Grobschnitt - Rockpommel's Land (classic, some Genesis-, Yes-, VDGG-influences) Sieges Even - A Sense of Change (in the vein of Rush's "Hemispheres" but much more complex and tricky) Vanden Plas - The God Thing (DT-clone) Everon - Flood (okay-ish neo prog with memorable melodies but a bad singer with a terrible accent)
No Eloy for me, please.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 05:14
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Ash ra temple
Amon dull II Agitation free Popol vuh Deuter Between |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 06:12
| Tangerine Dream is the best prog band from Germany. The others don't even come close. |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 07:32
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Harken the word of the prophet and let him guide us ... |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 07:39
Tell me some more about it!! they're not on the archives (YET?)
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Posted By: venemarg
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 09:40
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I'm Curious, most of the Bands you guys have brought up to the list I have listened to, some of the ones I haven't I'm searching for Mp3 files to give them a try, (Superior, Sieges Even, etc.). But it seems to be there are lots of them not included in the Prog Archives page. So if you have direct links to their Web pages please post them so that we can take a closer look at them and possibly listen to some of their material. I runned a search on "Orange Peel" but it doesn't come up with anything related to a Rock Band or else. Be kind, share!!!!
TXS!!! |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 10:06
| My favourites from Germany are (so far): Can, Faust, Kraftwerk and Amon Düül II, but I still haven't heard a lot of German bands. |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 10:50
| Some more :Birth Control,Guru-Guru, Embryo, Streetmark, Bröselmaschine, Achim Reichel, Popol Vuh, Satin Whale (all 70's) |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 12:54
| Don't know "Satin Whale" and "Achim Reichel" |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 12:55
Glad someone quotes Popol vuh, which are a very big band who created their own style; |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 12:56
| I don't know of a single German prog band. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 12:59
No one has mentioned Triumvirat yet..  Or then I'm just too sloppy a reader and haven't noticed. But the point is, Triumvirat is among the best German bands too. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 13:23
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A page about them can be found here: http://www.nordseemusikanten.de/sff/ - http://www.nordseemusikanten.de/sff/ Two of them were former members os Spektakel, who are indeed listed in the ARCHIVES. But where are these guys? They certainly should be here, and I would enjoy submitting reviews about their three recordings. Fuhrs & Frohling made three duo albums after the trio's break-up. Regards. |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 14:17
unfortunately they arent in the archives, but Rousseau sounds interesting, i just need to find some samples somewhere hmmm, yeah so German bands, I like Grobschnitt quite a bit, looking into getting more of their albums Amon Duul II is really great. I only own one Can album, Tago Mago. At first I didnt like it, but after a few listens and a few more listens of some Amon Duul II albums, i realized how fantastic that album is, parts of it are so boring they are inspirational especially Allulwah (or however it is spelled) I also very much like Nektar, but I dont consider them a german band, and why anyone would ever mention Krautrock and Nektar in the same sentence is beyond me. to me Krautrock makes many modern Indie Rock Bands very worthless and redundant in a mediocre way Aaron |
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 14:19
I have two SFF albums, I have only spun them maybe twice, but i dont remember anything special about them, i guess i should give them another shot, our tastes change, we shall see what happens |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 18:33
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ELOY................but I don't know much about German prog
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 18:41
Neuschwanstein - Battlement * Anyones Daughter - Adonis * Novalis - Sommerabend * Popol Vuh - Einsjager and Siebenjager * Agitation Free - Malesch * Eloy - Dawn/Power and the Passion/Ocean/anything else * Triumvirat - Spartacus or Illusions on a Double Dimple * Amon Duul II - Yeti/Tanz der Lemminge/Wolf City * Faust - self titled/faust IV * Can - Tago Mago * Ikarus - self titled * Hoelderlin - Clowns and Clouds * Ash Ra Tempel - self titled I personally would not rank any of the above bands as great! If you want to go for the good stuff, stick to the Kosmiche musik! More along the lines of Pink Floyd and Tangerine Dream! This is where you are getting lost, IMO! Michael Hoenig - Departures From a Northern Wasteland Klaus Schulze - Moondawn Cluster - Zuckerzeit Ashra - New Age of Earth Conrad Schnitzler - Ballet Statique Yatha Sidra - A Meditation Mass Ashra - Blackouts Neu! - 75 Micheal Rother - Katzenmusik Guru Guru - Kanguru Schicke, Fuhrs & Froeling - Symphonic Pictures 
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 07 2005 at 21:44
forgot the early landmark DOM - Edge of Time 
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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 09:37
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IMO best: Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh, SFF, Stern Combo Meissen, Grobschnitt, Ash Ra, Agitation Free, Epidaurus, Embryo... BTW are Nektar and Sweet Smoke considered German? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 12:33
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well
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 13:49
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Only if you accept TD as a prog band.................................... as far as I aware that acceptance amongst a few, is only a recent trend............................ Is there an entry for TD in A Crack In A Cosmic Egg, apparently the bible on these matters? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 13:57
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shows you how english the word "progressive rock" has been perverted. It was easily perverted into jazz fusion, neo prog and avant anything. Hard to put it back in its place when it comes to Continental European progressive rock. The cosmic egg only covers the early Krautrock scene and doesnt include much on the Kosmiche scene throughout europe in the late 70s and early 80s. This music was produced during a simiar period as is not some half pint afterthought. It it the equal! I will not rest until the red coats are defeated!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 14:06
Trouble is DB, the former colonists have become the colonisers, when you can reinvent the rules, regulations etc to your heart's content! |
Posted By: Angeliqué
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 14:06
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GROBSCHNITT, AMON DUUL II, CAN AND ELOY............................. DAMN SHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!!! ------------- Just take a pebble, and cast it to the sea.... Angeliqué |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: April 08 2005 at 16:14
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Dickster,
me not trying to reinvent, just bring it back to where it should be on the forum. Unloosening the shackles, I aint the government and I have always fought mind control, via the pen, legislation or visual media. I may rest, but I wont lie down
actually my war is anti-american and anti-british so dont feel special! Actually I would have to say the brits own a commanding lead on the superiority index when it comes to progressive rock claims, free the world you dont need another colony! Bush or Blair wouldnt like me as a neighbor 
I am not anti-british, I am am anti-inclusive. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:05
| ELOY!!! |
Posted By: balkan_progster
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:12
Following is the link to the net (light) version of Crack.... http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/krautrockers.html#t - http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/krautrockers.html#t |
Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:28
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That's incredible, nobody mention Wallenstein, My Solid Ground & Parzival!
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:31
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No, and they aren't. My favorites are Guru Guru, Embryo, Amon Düül 2, Can, Dzyan, Kraan, Roman Bunka Band, Missus Beastly, Ash Ra Tempel, Agitation Free, early Tangerine Dream (until 1978 at the most, afterwards they became unbearable), Cosmic Jokers, Brainstorm, Aera, early Wallenstein, Klaus Schulze, the early Kraftwerk (Radioactivity is the last album I like), Karthago, early Triumvirat (although they sound like an ELP clone), early Grobschnitt, Annexus Quam, Achim Reichel (especially "The Green Journey"), Conrad Schnitzler, Hoelderlin, the early solo works of Edgar Froese of TD ("Ypsilon in Malaysian Pale" is simply great), the live recordings of Atlantis and Frumpy (they are not typical Krautrock but prog), Popol Vuh, Sahara. Floh de Cologne, Ihre Kinder and Ton Steine Scherben I only recommend to people who speak German because what they do depends a lot on the lyrics. And I hope I have not fogotten any. I can't mention Novalis, by the way; as I stated in another post they have the worst drummer of all time, Hartwig Biereichel. His uninspired play gets on my nerves after a little while. Oh, and not Eloy either. First of all they are pompous, and second I just can't stand the ridiculous German accent of Frank Bornemann. (The German accent of Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 does not bother me in the least, by the way, because he has a very original voice). Some might mention Jane, Gate or Lucifers Friend, but they are no favorites of mine. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:32
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Tangerine dream!!!
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Posted By: ShaggyMcShagg7
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:34
| Kamelot |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 15:19
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Since i have 1000+ German progressive albums from the 70's it ain't easy to choose, though some mentioned in here are huge. Grobschnitt, Dzyan, Missus Beastly, Embryo, Munju, K. Schulze + another bunch like 80 more bands or something
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 15:48
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Quite. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:19
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Some more to mention is: Between, Out Of Focus, Rufus Zuphall, Silberbart, Gila, Mythos, Thirsty Moon, Exmagma, Hoelderlin... well there's loads of them. I have now done a little brainstorming here and my vote for the best german progressive band ever goes to: Out Of Focus <--- you can't go wrong with these guys
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:23
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Thanks for reminding me of Between; I really forgot to list them. ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:36
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I love that album... so sad that Gerd Führs passed away ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:37
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Novalis |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:40
Blimey! Wallace didnae tink thare were 1000 German prog 70s albums! Krautheid, wot yer doin' wastit yer toime on dis forum? We needs yourn inpoot at Galactic Zoo! Iffin ye have ainny o' these, can yer describe, please: A PARADISE IS BORN AGAM -AFTER PTARRHOF AQUARELL - ABFLUNG AMUTHON - WIRKLICHKEIF BREDA FOLK - I WILL GO BLACK WENESDAY BLUEBERRY RAINBOW - VOL 1 BIRDY - ON THE MOVE ULRICH BLUME - GROUND YOUR EARS! |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:40
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On this site you'll find sound samples from Führs & Fröhling - Ammerland
http://www.nordseemusikanten.de/sff/ffinfo.htm - http://www.nordseemusikanten.de/sff/ffinfo.htm ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:42
Hi there wallace
Can't say really... never heard them ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: dalt99
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:47
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Best - Eloy Most underrated - Passport Most overrated - Tangerine Dream (sorry, I just don't like them) Best one-shot bands - Neuschwanstein, Epidaurus, Madison Dyke, Minotaurus, Albatros. Best of the least-known - Amenophis. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 16:53
Too underrated Doldinger and the rest of the pack is so cool, I like their fusion style very much. Have 9 of them though I guess more of them is great ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 17:03
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Wha 9 yer 'av, Krautheid?
Ah'm lukin' fer MOTHERHOOD an' erlay Doldinger lps on MPS label. Noo th' Passport stoof. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 17:06
I have 9 Passport albums, not much but anyway  ------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |
Posted By: KeyserSoze
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 17:38
| ELOY |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 18:16
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Hard for me to pick between ELOY and GROBSCHNITT I love 'Ocean' and 'Slient cries..' by Eloy I also love 'Rockpommels land' by Grobschnitt. Classic albums, no doubt. |
Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 19:17
Of those albums i would go for: Eloy - Silent Cries And Mighty Echoes
------------- *Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond |