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Topic: Kobaian?
Posted By: Grimfurg
Subject: Kobaian?
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 07:55
I wonder if anyone here knows a good website with correct Kobaian translation. The websites that are on here really don't have much.

Unless there's somebody here who can really translate the language really well.


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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 10:06
I'm really glad you started this thread; I've been wanting to know more about the Kobaian language myself.

This is the best dictionary I could find: http://myfile.hanafos.com/%7Ejangminsu/magma/MAGMA-KOBAIAN-dictionary.html - http://myfile.hanafos.com/~jangminsu/magma/MAGMA-KOBAIAN-dictionary.html

It's pretty neat, but I'd love to learn even much more about the language.


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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 12:48
not to burst your bubble or anything, because I don't know if this is true, but I heard that Vander just made it up as he went along, of course, I suppose some words being repeated through the course of an album because they sound cool means they have a meaning but idk...


Posted By: Grimfurg
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 17:43
Yeah I know, he made the words first of all because these particular words went well with the music. In Kobaia, most (some) of the lyrics are Klaus just babbling stuff.

But then Vander started to complex it up a bit and made it a language.

Oh yeah and that's the dictionary that we actually find anywhere here man. Sorry to tell you that.


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 20:24
That's the best you're gonna get from the interwebz, I'm afraid.  If you speak French, you might be able to decode some of the language using the poem in the 1001 Degrees liner notes as a sort of Rosetta Stone. 

But then again, that's probably what the person who made that online Kobaian dictionary did. 


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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 20:24
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46810&KW=Koba%EFan - Fëël frëë tö dröp bÿ.  


Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: June 09 2008 at 20:28
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

TIf you speak French, you might be able to decode some of the language using the poem in the 1001 Degrees liner notes as a sort of Rosetta Stone.

I did that. There's also bits here and there in booklets and online where it is translated into French.


Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 13 2008 at 15:46
I wish you luck!  But my guess is that it's designed to cultivate mystery, and so only a few trickles of translation will ever emerge.

Having said that, there may well be educated etymological guesses to make (don't know how you'd guess what any of it means...).  This may be totally obvious already to everyone except me, but how about "Wurdah" - derived from "Wurdalak"?  (i.e. "Les Wurdalaks", pre-Magma band of Vander's, and also apparently a type of vampire.)

Ok, that's it.  I need to get out more, obviously... Embarrassed [Edited, a little pointlessly, for clarity... LOL]


Posted By: Grimfurg
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 13:05
Just so you know the whole Wurd- branch is attached to death and horror.

Wurd Emgalai = The Demon of The Apocalypse (Bernard Paganotti's Kobaian name)
http://park11.wakwak.com/~elric/Elric_music_magma_kobaian_name.htm


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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 19:00
Originally posted by Grimfurg Grimfurg wrote:

Just so you know the whole Wurd- branch is attached to death and horror.

Haha, I guessed well then! LOL

Wurd Emgalai = The Demon of The Apocalypse (Bernard Paganotti's Kobaian name)

Wow.  That's quite a moniker.  I rather like the idea that the end of the world might be accompanied by some nifty bass playing. Wink

I'd love to know what some of the other Kobaian names mean.  Unfortunately that site seems to be in Korean (??)... yet another language beginning with 'K' that I do not understand... Confused

http://park11.wakwak.com/~elric/Elric_music_magma_kobaian_name.htm




Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:40
Paganotti's bass playing is MUCH more powerful than any mere apocalypse.  

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Posted By: Grimfurg
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 16:01
Uhm, Retrospektïw I-II -> MDK's Bass solo = THE APOCALYPSE

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 17:04
You should read http://song-of-copper.livejournal.com/27909.html - this .

I apologise for it in advance!! Embarrassed LOL


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 17:24
TOO MANY WORDS

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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 17:47
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

TOO MANY WORDS

I quite agree... LOL

Carried away by over-enthusiasm as usual! Big%20smile


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 06:56
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

You should read http://song-of-copper.livejournal.com/27909.html - this .

I apologise for it in advance!! Embarrassed LOL
 
Clap 
....you should read The Fan Man by William Kotzwinkle if you haven't already!
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: song_of_copper
Date Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:39
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

Clap 
....you should read The Fan Man by William Kotzwinkle if you haven't already!
 
Hmm, intriguing!  I'll have to have a read of that I think! Tongue  Thanks! Big%20smile

(PS: Ahh, your sig. picture!  You've got me humming 'My Pal Foot Foot'. LOL)


Posted By: Grimfurg
Date Posted: June 24 2008 at 19:41
Haha KiKi Banquette...

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