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Topic: 70's Soul-Funk/Blaxploitation
Posted By: Yukorin
Subject: 70's Soul-Funk/Blaxploitation
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 02:42
Had this dream where I was serving ice-cream to the old 70's Wolverhampton Wanderers afro-legend George Berry,
 
 
which caused me to dig-up my old Curtis Mayfield and Stevie Wonder LPs.
 
I'd forgotten just how farking mindblowing 'Superfly' and 'Music Of My Mind' are! The wah-wah synthesizer and those tuned drums! And that harp!
 
Isaac Hayes, Quincy Jones, Bobby Womack, The Temptations, Parliament...etc. Who am I forgetting? Love this era! Any other fans?
 
 
 
(...also am desperate to score 'The Sweeney' movie soundtrack). Shut iiiiiiiiiiiit!
 
 


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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 02:59
Well,you could definately add Sly and the Family Stone,Gill Scott-Heron,Donny Hathaway,Roy Ayers,James Brown,Cymande,War,Isaac Hayes,Bill Withers and the wonderful William DeVaughan track,'Be Thankful for What You've Got' to your list.

Curtis Mayfield's band 'The Impressions' should also be added.Their Funky,Psych,Rhythm 'n' Blues albums from the late 60s are excellent.


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 03:02
I listened to "Pusherman" today... man, what a tune. Curtis has a voice like velvet, and his compositions on the Superfly soundtrack are luscious. Cheers!


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 03:05
Dunno 'bout the music much, but I love blaxploitation movies. Maybe I shouldn't seeing how I'm "the man" and all (Tongue), but's they're just really campy and fun.

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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 03:05
Curtis Mayfield's debut album,'Curtis' is amazing. The opening track 'Don't Worry If There's A Hell Below We're All Gonna Go' is up there with Funkadelic's, 'Maggot Brain'.

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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:04
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Dunno 'bout the music much, but I love blaxploitation movies. Maybe I shouldn't seeing how I'm "the man" and all
 
It's not a black v white thing. More about us all being pawns in the game. I love the innocence of the early 70s. Compare and contrast with the violent 'hippies' today


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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:12
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Curtis Mayfield's debut album,'Curtis' is amazing. The opening track 'Don't Worry If There's A Hell Below We're All Gonna Go' is up there with Funkadelic's, 'Maggot Brain'.
 
I am so on a Curtis tip at the moment!
 
If this site changed the name of the prog-related category Funkadelic would be first on the list surely! Was listening to the largely unknown (and generic voiced) hippy chick Ruth Copeland this morning. Parliament were her backing band. What a farking guitar sound!


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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:17
The Ruth Copeland album is superb!

Eddie Hazel's solo album(s) is/are also worth checking out.

Also worth checking out are Johnny Guitar Watson's albums that were released in the 1970s

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:18
Most so called hippies today are paranoid, aggressive, listen to sloppiest reggae ever made, or dumb political punkrock/folkpunk, and smell bad. Gil Scott Heron's kind of aggression was a good one, though.

Love Superfly and Stevie, but I'm no expert here. Actually its my girlfriend who got me a little into this. Does 60's Quincy Jones soundtracks count?




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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:30
 
Rocktopus, read the 1st post! Quincy always counts!


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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:40
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

The Ruth Copeland album is superb!

Eddie Hazel's solo album(s) is/are also worth checking out.

Also worth checking out are Johnny Guitar Watson's albums that were released in the 1970s
 
Thanks for the tip! I'm on it now. Ever heard Frankie Dymon Junior's only record (with the krautrock producer/entrepreneur Achim Reichel)? Anti-star of Jean-Luc Godard's fantastic Rolling Stones 'One plus One' and Black Panther. Fantastic lightweight hippy bollocks. And worth every minute!
 


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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:46
Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

 
Rocktopus, read the 1st post! Quincy always counts!
 
Apologies Rocktopus! I didn't read your post properly the 1st time. I'm only after 1970's.
 
 


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 06:04
Farking love this stuff. First picked up on it this year and grew a pretty sever obsession.

This hasn't been mentioned yet and I think fits the mold. Baby Huey's solo, a damn sham he up and died on us before releasing more material.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhWpAs4QUvY&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhWpAs4QUvY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1-EcKPakg&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1-EcKPakg&feature=related


Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 06:19
 
I'm on it! BV, PM please


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 09:00
I'm no authority on this stuff, but yeah what I've heard is great.

Stevie Wonder's 'Innervisions' would rank among my favourite albums of all time. 'Songs in the Key of Life' is also excellent.

I also have 'Whats going on' by Marvin Gaye, and 'There's a riot going on' by Sly the Family Stone, and a Curtis Mayfied compilation. Some great musicanship going on in this music. I particularly love the drumming.

Off the beaten track a bit, was Eugene mc Daniels. I can reccomend his album 'The Headless Heroes of the apocalypse' He's perhaps not to be taken too seriously...


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 09:08
Oh, and can someone please check this out. I feel like I'm the only person in the world who has ever heard this band! They made a few albums and launched a solo career for their singer Minnie Ripperton, but 'THE ROTARY CONNECTION' need to heard. I love this track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DR_NMtBEj4 - PLAY LOUD!!! and enjoy :-)



Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 09:26
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Oh, and can someone please check this out. I feel like I'm the only person in the world who has ever heard this band! They made a few albums and launched a solo career for their singer Minnie Ripperton, but 'THE ROTARY CONNECTION' need to heard. I love this track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DR_NMtBEj4 - PLAY LOUD!!! and enjoy :-)





Rotary Connection is excellent progressive soul music and also features the great psychedelic guitarist Pete Cosey who worked with Miles a lot. If you dig psychedelic funk you must hear Miles' Agharta album.

I also was glad to hear Johnny Guitar Watson mentioned. He appears on Zappa's One Size Fits All and helps take that album to places that Zappa was never able to reach again.

I've been playing funk since the 70s and continue to play it to this day. I really like the progressive bands like early Earth Wind and Fire, Funkadelic, Parliament, Mandrill etc.

If you live in the SF-Oakland bay area you might want to check out Jason Collins' band Jason and the Funkanauts (they are on myspacemusic). Jason and I were in many bands together until I moved to Memphis.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 09:37
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Oh, and can someone please check this out. I feel like I'm the only person in the world who has ever heard this band! They made a few albums and launched a solo career for their singer Minnie Ripperton, but 'THE ROTARY CONNECTION' need to heard. I love this track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DR_NMtBEj4 - PLAY LOUD!!! and enjoy :-)





Rotary Connection is excellent progressive soul music and also features the great psychedelic guitarist Pete Cosey who worked with Miles a lot. If you dig psychedelic funk you must hear Miles' Agharta album.

I also was glad to hear Johnny Guitar Watson mentioned. He appears on Zappa's One Size Fits All and helps take that album to places that Zappa was never able to reach again.

I've been playing funk since the 70s and continue to play it to this day. I really like the progressive bands like early Earth Wind and Fire, Funkadelic, Parliament, Mandrill etc.

If you live in the SF-Oakland bay area you might want to check out Jason Collins' band Jason and the Funkanauts. Jason and I were in many bands together until I moved to Memphis.


So, you're the other RC fan!

Apparently RC were rejected by much of the soul community because of their 'white' rock element, and vice versa among much of the rock community because of their soul element. Dont know how true that is, but a shame if it is. I'm glad Minnie got something out of it, because she had a very unique voice. A talent was lost very young there. may she rest in peace.

I didn't realise Pete Cosey worked with Miles Davis. I'm not that familar with Miles's work. I have Bitches Brew and Sketches of Spain, neither of which I've given the attention they probably deserve, although I know the are radically different albums.

Thanks for the heads up on 'Agharta' I've just been reading some reviews on this album and it sounds like it may be up my street.


Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 13:20

 

Blacksword: 'Kind Of Blue'

The USA has some amazing musical legacies


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 17:21
Where do I start, Kool and the Gang, "Light of worlds".  Mostly thought of for Celebration and Lady's Night.  "Light of Worlds" (which featured the song "Summer Madness") definitely one of their more deeper and jazzier releases.  Next Herbie Hancock, "Headhunters", Thrust" or "Man-Child".  The Brothers Johnson, "Right on Time" & "Look out for #1".  Graham Central Station same titled debut album.  Often forgotten Rick James, "Street Songs" (a really great album).  L.T.D. (w\Jeffrey Osborne), "Devotion".  I could probably go on for some time but you get the idea.


Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 18:19
In the early 70s Stevie Wonder, Sly Stone and Marvin Gaye (just to name a few) were really taking R&B in a very progressive direction.  A lot of us Yes freaks were also into "Innervisions" and "There's a Riot goin' on" and it was a great time for black music in general.  Then came disco and then came MTV and then came rap and the rest is history....

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 19:57
Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Where do I start, Kool and the Gang, "Light of worlds".  Mostly thought of for Celebration and Lady's Night.  "Light of Worlds" (which featured the song "Winter Madness") definitely one of their more deeper and jazzier releases.  Next Herbie Hancock, "Headhunters", Thrust" or "Man-Child".  The Brothers Johnson, "Right on Time" & "Look out for #1".  Graham Central Station same titled debut album.  Often forgotten Rick James, "Street Songs" (a really great album).  L.T.D. (w\Jeffrey Osborne), "Devotion".  I could probably go on for some time but you get the idea.


I've always liked Kool and the Gangs 'Summer Madness' in fact one of my guilty pleasures is DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince's take on that track 'Summertime'


Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 00:18
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

I listened to "Pusherman" today... man, what a tune. Curtis has a voice like velvet
 
Read a review which said 'Curtis doesn't sing the word "Pusherman", he kisses it'


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 02:35
Oh sweet sassy molassy! Curtis is great and his guitar playing is pretty friggin cool too.  Innervisions is the best Stevie album.

Going back to the 60s there was one of the best singers to ever live : OTIS REDDING.  I wonder if he would have ventured into the funky 70s sounds had he lived that long. 

Earth Wind and Fire anyone?  George Clinton wasn't a big fan of them, but they were great! 

Barry White is another favorite of mine.  He was amazing.   As far as the blaxploitation movies I like some of them.  Original Gangsters was a newer one, but funny.  Tarrantino's best film was his tribute to Blaxploitation.  Coffy, Black Caesar, Shaft in Africa, Across 110th Street. 


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 06:47
I'm a fan of some of this stuff too, as indeed was Christian Vander if the Magma Bobino live album is anything to go by. Superfly in Kobaian, anybody? The Stevie Wonder, Curtis Mayfield and Parliafunkadelicment albums mentioned so far are all excellent. I'd also add the Isely Brothers 3 + 3. Ernie Isely was a splendid and highly under rated lead guitarist, and his playing really lifts the Isely's mid 70s output.


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