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Topic: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Appreciation Thread!
Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Subject: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Appreciation Thread!
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 18:27
This thread is for all the Sleepytime Gorilla Museum fans. Lately I've been absolutely obsessed with these guys, due in part to me watching a concert on youtube while not having had enough sleep: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBHj1xt8FM -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBHj1xt8FM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpBXrC4S78&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpBXrC4S78&feature=related
 
Here's the first two songs, the entire thing (some 13 videos) are within easy finding distance. In my opinion, they are incredible live. The sound is always great and the humor and improv is amazing. I really can't wait until they start touring again.
 
As for their studio stuff: Their debut is amazing. I have a review which is just bursting at the seams with praise. I love it. My favorite songs have to be Powerless and Sleep is Wrong.
 
Of Natural History is also a great album. Unfortunately I feel its a bit too spaced out in the middle and end. Bring back the Apocalypse is my favorite song like ever. The seemingly random yet completely organized elements are boss, and the xylophone is so hardcore (somehow).
 
Their newest album though, In Glorious Times, I think is a bit of a step down from their previous two. It just seems to be lacking and a lot of times I feel like they're just making noise. No standout tracks for me.
 
I have a question though, does anyone know when they plan on making another album?



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Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 20:53
I believe word on the street is that SGM is due for a new album this summer (which hopefully will be promoted with some big touring type plans). They've debuted a new song at their live shows earlier on in the winter, so things look very promising

And on your epic song: It would be interesting and probably a bit of a gambit, but that means more time of Sleepytime which is always good

Though I think FC: Freedom Club is epic enough itself (probably being one of my favorite SGM tracks)


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Posted By: Fenmalain
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 22:23
SGM and their related bands (Idiot Flesh, The Book of Knots, Tin Hat Trio, Two Foot Yard, ect.) make up a huge chunk of my weekly music diet.  They have yet to dissapoint me. 

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 22:28
I think them doing a 20 minuter would be interesting, but as with all songs of any length, it more matters if its good or not

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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: May 13 2008 at 23:11
I adore SGM. But I think In Glorious Times was on par with the others. I'm am eagerly awaiting the new album, hoping dearly that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4or9tKChs0 - this song will be on it.


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 14 2008 at 19:53
I enjoy Of Natural History and In Glorious Times on occassion and I really love Tin Hat Trio/Tin Hat.

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: May 15 2008 at 08:47
Well I posted here yesterday but it was lost due to the hacking...
 
Of Natural History: A+
In Glorious Times: A-
Grand Opening and Closing: B+
 
 
Someone who saw them live told me Nils said they'd have a new album this summer...
 
As for the epic, I don't think it would work, but I don't feel like retyping my longish explanation that got lost once already.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 15 2008 at 09:20
I think they have the potential to do one well but not really the inclination to do so

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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: May 15 2008 at 13:11
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Someone who saw them live told me Nils said they'd have a new album this summer...
That's pretty great news, considering this summer is sometime between now and August!
 
 
Concerning an "epic", I can't really imagine them doing one now that I think of it more. Like's been said, I don't really think they are inclined to make one. But honestly I can't really see them even being able to without relying on the build-up-then-verse-then-more-build-up-then-climax-then-interlude-then-another-climax-then-fade-away formula they've used for all their other longer songs.


Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 20:07
Oh boy, new SGM.  Excellent news.  Big%20smile
 
I finally found a copy of Grand Opening And Closing.  I'll have to let it grow on me.  Of Natural History was one of the most inventive and superb albums I've heard in recent years.
 


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 21:40
Say, how many of you Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum fans have actually been to a museum with gorillas? Tongue

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: May 16 2008 at 21:53
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Say, how many of you Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum fans have actually been to a museum with gorillas? Tongue


I have.  And they were indeed sleeping (at least to the extent that "sleep is the cousin of death")

$10 says no one gets that reference


Posted By: mithrandir
Date Posted: May 17 2008 at 01:59
its been a while since I paid attention to SGM, I never got around to hearing In Glorious Times, I suppose I will some day, I saw them play once- for the short time they were on stage they were great! but sadly the venues in albuquerque can be S-heads and they closed up and kicked them off the stage before their set was completed,
Idiot Flesh was a great band too!


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 19:46
I've listened to the entirety of Of Natural History. And its pretty sweet. I think that the only tracks which don't work are the  17 Year Cicada, What shall we do without us?, and Cockroach. The last one isn't that bad, its a nice tune, but its a really bad closer. This album could've used some amazing ending. But as it stands, the best songs were at the beginning.
 
Still trying to get into in Glorious Times, but unfortunately, all the hitting of the garbage can lids is kind of getting on my nerves. It sounds too much like noise, which is weird considering what the other albums sound like...


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 20:34
This is such an awesome band. Secret Chiefs 3 is a great neighbor.


Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 21:57
Yeah, I too have heard many rumors of an album this summer.  But if there truly is one, they should have mentioned it more on their label, no?  I mean, it can't be a coincidence that all of these people are saying the same thing... but when it comes to SGM, I guess anything could happen, haha. 
 
But anyways, to whoever said they were playing only one new song lately, oh boy, they've been playing a whole lot more than one new song.  A person that went to a recent live show reviewed it saying that the songs were on par with Of Natural History's songs... which excites me
 
VERY MUCH SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.


Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 22:18
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Someone who saw them live told me Nils said they'd have a new album this summer...
That's pretty great news, considering this summer is sometime between now and August!
 
 
Concerning an "epic", I can't really imagine them doing one now that I think of it more. Like's been said, I don't really think they are inclined to make one. But honestly I can't really see them even being able to without relying on the build-up-then-verse-then-more-build-up-then-climax-then-interlude-then-another-climax-then-fade-away formula they've used for all their other longer songs.
 
I don't think they are incapable of making an incredible epic song; Nils's previous band, Idiot Flesh, was rumored to have a 20 minute song they played live at all their concerts.  I believe The Straw is what it came to be on album format, and if that song is not the definition of 'epic', then I don't know what is.
 
That being said, I highly doubt I'm not going to really, really like the new album.
 
Unless they go boy band, then it's iffy.


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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 02:19
Epic...
 
Babydoctor is the answer.  With them making a "20-minute song", it's possible but only if the songwriting would allow for it, or if it's necessary.  It's not about quantity for SGM, it's quality.


Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 02:58
I just heard Of Natural History a week ago or so when I was having trouble sleeping around 1 or 2am, and it was one of the most amazing and interesting things I had ever heard. I didn't want to pause it for a second. Everything about it was just so good: the music, the concept (which I thought was really well done), the atmosphere (of some songs)...

I listened to In Glorious Times the other day and was unimpressed. I haven't listened to Of Natural History again yet; I'm hoping it stays just as good with every listen. I have a fear it will get old after a few listens because the music is so shocking. But I realize there is a lot of depth and weird things going on constantly so I think it will be one of those albums which always offer something new to hear. 


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 14:46
In Glorious Times took a while to click with me...it's just a different album with a different feel to it, a bit more dark maybe even

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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 16:32
In Glorious Times is more guitar oriented, honestly.  I don't think it's as good as Of Natural History, but The Companions is easily on par with any song on that album.

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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

[/QUOTE]

haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 17:29
Yeah.  Of Natural History was very much a percussion and bass oriented album.  And In Glorious Times has the most metallic elements of all their albums, ranging from the black metal in Helpless Corpses Enactment to the doom in several other songs.  What's strange, even though the album is their most metal-esque, Of Natural History is still much more intense. 


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 17:41
consider them appreciated. i really really really like Of Natural History. quirky, intense, great vocals  (sounds like mike patton) and just downright freaky at times.
 still waiting for my copy of in glorious times.
cool band.

EDIT - is the companions their newest? i hadnt heard they were putting out any this year.


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 17:45
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

consider them appreciated. i really really really like Of Natural History. quirky, intense, great vocals  (sounds like mike patton) and just downright freaky at times.
 still waiting for my copy of in glorious times.
cool band.

EDIT - is the companions their newest? i hadnt heard they were putting out any this year.


its the first song off In Glorious Times, and a damn good one

I never thought of it as that much more metal but  I guess I don't pay attention to that aspect as much


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 18:30
BTW, was there a put phil collins in your signiture memo i didnt get?  its about fizzled out now but for a while that was about all i saw. Phil. in the signiture. everywhere.DeadLOL


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 18:32
it was just one of those things that...happened

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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 18:38
I wanted to play The Companions at a haunted house during Halloween, but the people didn't let me.

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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

[/QUOTE]

haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 19:54
Awesome band.


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 09:41

I hope to get on my hands on Of Natural history and in glorious times in some couple of weeks(or rather months?).



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 18:47
THIS IS MY BAND!!!!!!!!!!!

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is the sh*t, I must be the biggest fan around this forum... how come I did not see this thread before?

Yeah, new album that sounds sweeeeeet...

Oh and DJPuffy no song in Of natural history does not work, you probably still dont get them... but hang on, you will! That album is probably among the most creatives forms of art I have ever heard, love it love it love it


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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 19:29
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

THIS IS MY BAND!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and DJPuffy no song in Of natural history does not work, you probably still dont get them... but hang on, you will! That album is probably among the most creatives forms of art I have ever heard, love it love it love it
Like it or not 17-Year cicada is a weak track. I admit I'm not sure of its purpose but  it alwasy seemed more like an interruption than a song. Same thing with What shall we do without us? which is pretty good, but unfortunately it should have been fleshed out a bit more. It would have done better as a 5 minute song imo, or at least had it flowed in better to the next song, acting as an intro if you will. But I'll listen to it a bit more, not a bad tune, but its ehhh at best.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 20 2008 at 22:00
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

THIS IS MY BAND!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and DJPuffy no song in Of natural history does not work, you probably still dont get them... but hang on, you will! That album is probably among the most creatives forms of art I have ever heard, love it love it love it
Like it or not 17-Year cicada is a weak track. I admit I'm not sure of its purpose but  it alwasy seemed more like an interruption than a song. Same thing with What shall we do without us? which is pretty good, but unfortunately it should have been fleshed out a bit more. It would have done better as a 5 minute song imo, or at least had it flowed in better to the next song, acting as an intro if you will. But I'll listen to it a bit more, not a bad tune, but its ehhh at best.

I think something that might help is not to think of it as a song but as a piece of music within a bigger piece of music, being the album of course.
Didnt you like On glorious times? I also think its their weakest... but its still excellent for me jejeje, maybe I cant be objective with these guys


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Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 21 2008 at 23:15
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


I think something that might help is not to think of it as a song but as a piece of music within a bigger piece of music, being the album of course.
Didnt you like On glorious times? I also think its their weakest... but its still excellent for me jejeje, maybe I cant be objective with these guys
Well obviously its all based on taste. Though I think we are mostly on the same page. Would you call them one of the best avant-garde prog bands ever? I sure would. Thing is though, I of course could look at it as a part of the whole, which it is, and while it serves as an interlude between songs, its really more of an interruption. Probably because its so short that it gives off the impression of "wait what? what did i just hear?" though at the same time, making them full length tracks would only extend the album to becoming somewhat drawn out, which I think it already is a tad, but not enough to detract it really. I'm going in cirlces I think..but in the end all I know is that they're slightly more laid back tracks, for better or worse.
 
 
Like someone else pointed out, the fact taht there's really no subdued tracks and everything is IN YOUR FACE!, will probably make it wear on me in the future, but I could be mistaken and start loving it even more.
 
 
As for in gloriuos times....I believe there's too many tracks. and not only that, but that they're too long. I just can't sit through it. My preference is towards albums that are bertter heard as a whole....but in glorious times works better when you catch a random track every now and then. even hearing two in a row gets boring for me.


Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 22 2008 at 17:12

I am in my 50's and I was weened on Beethoven, hated rock until intruduced to Close to the Edge and Thick as a Brick, and in general I'm a big symphonic or eclectic prog fan.  I should not like this grating noise that is SGM.

But I do like it!  I can't really figure out why.  "Sleep is Wrong" has the great rhythmic ambiguity or rhythmic surprises that I love so much in other prog and some classical pieces.  Maybe that's what clicked with me.
 


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 17:29

Why ask why? Just listen to what you like at the moment!



Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: June 27 2008 at 18:36
17 Year Cicada is clearly a filler track, but filler is not synonymous with bad.  It's a delightful slice of rythmic experimenation.  Perhaps overlong, but still well placed in the context of the album.


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 06:38
Woa, I haven't posted in here yet.

I actually really love In Glorious Times, so I might be a rare breed, but I don't really care, I still love the album regardless.



Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 10:58
Oh, I love it too, just not quite as much as Of Natural History.

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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
[/QUOTE]


Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 20:41
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

hoping dearly that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4or9tKChs0 - this song will be on it.


Damn!!! that was excellent! I'm hoping so as well now Big%20smile

Does anyone know if Carla writes most of their lyrics or not? Anyways, amazing band. I hope they keep creating music for a long time.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 21:47
Originally posted by Dominic Dominic wrote:

Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

hoping dearly that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4or9tKChs0 - this song will be on it.


Damn!!! that was excellent! I'm hoping so as well now Big%20smile

Does anyone know if Carla writes most of their lyrics or not? Anyways, amazing band. I hope they keep creating music for a long time.

Carla writes the lyrics? I was always under the impression Nils and Dan wrote the lyrics


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 12:51
what's, uh, the deal with this band? can someone describe them? ive been meaning to check them out, but i have no reference point.

what would be a good first album to check out?


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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 13:36
They're hard to describe, in that they really have a unique sound.
 
Start with Of Natural History, it's their most "accessible" album, in my opinion. 


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[QUOTE=darkshade] [QUOTE=Sckxyss]
I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
[/QUOTE]


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 15:01
I wish that they toured more often. I missed them last time through and I regret it.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 13:01
Originally posted by Drakk Drakk wrote:

They're hard to describe, in that they really have a unique sound.
 
Start with Of Natural History, it's their most "accessible" album, in my opinion. 

What? It´s their less accesible album! Grand opening and closing is more accesible!


hehehe accesible and SGM are oxymorons


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 21 2008 at 14:11
listen to 'The Donkey Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion" here on PA
that should be the test of whether you'd like them or not


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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: July 22 2008 at 14:26
SGM is an exceptional band!  they are also outstanding live!  I recommend you check out their live set if they come near you.  One of the most intense, tight, intriguing live bands I have ever seen!  They are really nice peeps too.  I spoke to Michael and Nils after the show, very "enlightened" folks too.

oh and all of their albums are great for different reasons.   I cannot pick one over the other......Confused


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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: July 25 2008 at 00:43
3 new songs are on youtube.  Good quality too.


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:57
I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing.  It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55.  I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:33
everything they did on Grand Opening they did better on Of Natural History

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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:44
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

everything they did on Grand Opening they did better on Of Natural History


Fact.


Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:53
Definitely.  I think what completes ONH and kind of goes underrated is the percussion.  Oh boy, that percussion.  Hug


Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 21:53
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Carla writes the lyrics? I was always under the impression Nils and Dan wrote the lyrics


If you've read any interviews of theirs then you know better than me. I was wondering if Nils wrote his lyrics; Carla wrote hers, or if one band member wrote them all. I was thinking that it might have been Carla considering that the lyrics she wrote for "Borrowed Arms" were interesting to me like SGM's.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 21:59
Originally posted by Mikerinos Mikerinos wrote:

I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing.  It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55.  I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great.


Grand Opening and Closing is the album I have from them as well.  Looking forward to checking out Of Natural History as it appears to be a consensus best.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:05
In Glorious Times is just as good as ONH.  The songwriting is better IMHO, though the album isn't as cohesive.


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:20

Originally posted by avalanchemaster avalanchemaster wrote:

I spoke to Michael and Nils after the show, very "enlightened" folks too.
Now what does this sentence mean? Because when I think of california 'enlightened' I think of anti-gov raw vegans.

Originally posted by Mikerinos Mikerinos wrote:

I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing.  It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55.  I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great.
 Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes:

1. Sleep is Wrong (6:35)
2. Ambugaton (5:38)
3. Ablutions (6:05)
4. 1997 (4:48)
5. The Miniature (0:59)
6. Powerless (9:30)
7. The Stain (6:46)
8. Sleepytime (10:16)
9. Sunflower (7:52)

Total Time: 58:29
 
Of natural history is 72 minutes though, maybe you mistook it with that?


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:27
Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes


Really, I'd say GOaC is their least accessible by far.

Anyway, it could be shortened a fair bit by removing the unnecessary Sunflower and the good but not as good as the rest Ablutions.  Now that would be a kickass album.


Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 19:22
Originally posted by Dominic Dominic wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Carla writes the lyrics? I was always under the impression Nils and Dan wrote the lyrics


If you've read any interviews of theirs then you know better than me. I was wondering if Nils wrote his lyrics; Carla wrote hers, or if one band member wrote them all. I was thinking that it might have been Carla considering that the lyrics she wrote for "Borrowed Arms" were interesting to me like SGM's.
Nearly everyone in the band writes lyrics.  Especially on In Glorious Times, the credits to who wrote what lyrics are in the liner notes.  And quite a lot of their lyrics are used from other arts, including plays, poetry, and literature.  One has to appreciate a band that takes use of James Joyce.  :)
 
I agree, Pnoom!, in a way, while I do like all the songs on GOAC, I think that how they were placed wasn't the best, it made the album feel uneven and lacking of flow.  But even those songs that broke the flow were still great in their own right.


Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 19:35
Yeah, lyrics are spread throughout the band.  from IGT:

Nils - The Companions, The Salt Crown, The Greenless Wreath
Matthias - Puppet Show
Dan - Formicary
Carla - Angle of Repose, The Only Dance
Michael - Ossuary


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 20:19
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes


Really, I'd say GOaC is their least accessible by far.

Anyway, it could be shortened a fair bit by removing the unnecessary Sunflower and the good but not as good as the rest Ablutions.  Now that would be a kickass album.
Yeah, get rid of sunflower and you have 8 amazing songs. The album doesn't flow at all. Its more a collection of songs than an "album", to contrast with their next two releases. You can listen to a single track on its own and get more out of it than listening to it in the context of the album.
 
And its their most accessible because you can take any track from there (with the exception of sunflower) and have a good time for a few minutes. The other two albums are much harder to get into, speaking from my experience/opinion, of natural history is harder to grasp because a lot of the songs are 40% intro, 50% song, and 10% recordings of some redneck. In glorious times is just a racket.


Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: August 07 2008 at 21:02
I loved the hillbilly recordings.  I thought it added a lot of demented atmosphere to the album... maybe I was thinking of Gummo when I was listening to it.  Confused  And also, I don't think the intros took that large of a chunk from the album, unless, that is, you mean the actual intros from songwriting, but if that's the case, I'd consider those part of the "song" as they are really well-written, and can't really  be left out of song as that would take away from the whole effect. 
 
I think something that really makes SGM songs intense, I think, is how they use polyrhythms... remember the crescendo of Babydoctor especially, WOW, or even that of The Companions.  It just adds a whole new species of layering on top of their music and makes one's brain almost hurt trying to wrap itself around the immense, rhythmic monstrocities. 


Posted By: DJPuffyLemon
Date Posted: August 08 2008 at 11:19
Man, I never said that the intros were bad, or that they should be left out. I'm just saying that it made the album less accessible because at least half the songs had long intros. To me, avant-garde intros take patience to sit through.


Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: August 08 2008 at 12:42
Haha good.  I was planning to find out where you live if you did say something bad about my beloved ONH.  Wink
 
 
 


Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:07

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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:10
I posted my long overdue review of "Of Natural History" earlier today:


4 stars Oh deary me! How delightfully disturbing and twisted!

Oh RIO, how many people this subgenre has touched over the years. This is one of the categories that is at the same time both criminally underrated and overrated, as it has many critics and many fanboys who would gladly take a bullet for it. The genre is usually ripe with dissonance and experimentation which leads the more melodic listeners to run and take shelter while the people who enjoy it will step out into the acid rain and say it tastes like rainbows. But if there's one thing everyone can agree on it's that this kind of music is normally very strange (which, contrary to popular belief does NOT automatically make it ''innovative'') and very much an acquired taste. With Of Natural History, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum [SGM] have created a wonderful opus that will both make the RIO connoisseurs jump for joy and give the more hesitant listeners a place to start with the genre.

One of the best things about this band is there very unique approach to the music that they play. Rock In Opposition (RIO), as stated before, is usually very lacking in melody and derives its audience from wild experimentation. SGM is often called MIO (Metal In Opposition) by a lot of people who have the chance to hear them, but even that may be an inaccurate statement while actually listening closely to the music. SGM have managed to blend RIO with a good amount of symphonic and very melodic tenancies with the chugging power of industrial music to make for a headbanging album which is still experimental and highly impressive. Instrumental sections to the album will not only flow but bash their way through the song in a way that grabs you and takes you along for the ride. The prime example of this is the excellent Bring Back The Apocalypse, driven by a good amount of fast chimes and drums until we get to a very beatarific ending in which the ''bring it, bring it back'' chanting begins and all hope is lost for those who don't know what to expect from the band.

The vocals are surprisingly a draw point to the album. Although gruff, the vocals add a surprising amount, especially with the two singer combo. The switch between the male and female leads make for an eclectic mix which is sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. After the bludgeoning raw power of The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion it's nice to go into the slow, but no less unsettling Phthisis which is voiced by Carla Kihlstedt (who sounds a lot like a twisted Bjork who has been locked in an insane-asylum for too long). The percussion is the other part of the band which really keeps things moving, especially in songs like Phthisis where it is damn near the only thing which keeps things together (and I mean that in a good way).

Other standouts on the album are plentiful. Most of the songs do tend to run together since the album is a concept album (which other reviews have gone into in cryptic detail, so I won't), but there's still a number of songs that work very well on their own. The who epics on the album which reach over 10-minutes are each very impressive. FC: The Freedom Club is a song that starts out slow and melodic but turns into one of the most dissonant songs on the album with the drums still managing to hold everything together - like a tornado which rips across the countryside, its debris does a lot of damage, but there's still one main force. Babydoctor is a much different beast, this one is a considerably slower to get going, but when it does it finally explodes with the force of a bomb. If you're not expecting it, well... prepare to be wiped out. The Creature works in tandem with it's intro instrumental, the incredibly creepy The 17-Year Cicada to go through a mostly spoken-word like story which is obviously a metaphor for something (and the political views shine through yet again). Gunday's Child is another Carla Kihlstedt voiced track which is a lot more frantic and desperate than the last song she voiced, but still it sounds like you're standing in the mansion from The Shining looking down the hallway to two girls who can only say to you, ''hello Danny...'' (or whatever your name is).

For people who like things heavy and experimental will be over the moon with this album, and people who don't fancy themselves masters of RIO will still be able to get into the album thanks to the way it's been done. A fair warning though, don't expect anything going into this album, because you're not going to get it. Expect the unexpected I suppose would be the cliche line to add in here. 4 cockroaches out of 5 for a wild ride which everyone should take at some point or another.




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