Your thoughts on Between the Buried and Me?
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Topic: Your thoughts on Between the Buried and Me?
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Subject: Your thoughts on Between the Buried and Me?
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 00:50
I got "Colors" from my friend a couple of months ago, and it took time to grow on me, but now it is one of my favorite albums. I also just got "Alaska" from him, which isn't as good IMO, but still good. I'm really looking forward to seeing them on Prog Nation '08, although I wish they had a longer set  .
How does everyone else feel about them?, and Has anyone seen them live? How is their sound? and Is it as good as the studio recording?
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 01:10
I'm going to see them along side Dream Theater on june 4th here in Puerto Rico. Still dunno how they sound but it must be good. I hope so
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 01:19
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guilty pleasure of mine though those who like Dream Theater might wanna look them up first rather than assuming because there is definitely a difference, especially vocally ------------- 
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 01:19
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Soooo much disapointment from colors....
Check out my review. ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 01:33
all I gathered from that is that you dislike the vocals strongly and that you think blues solos are lame -------------
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schizoid_man77 wrote:Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 03:05
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Not a big fan of this band. The vocals pretty much prevent me from enjoying it.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 03:19
Me want to see Your thoughts Buried?  Sorry, sometimes I come across a topic I know nothing about and I feel compelled to get silly.  Dig me don't bury me. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 04:12
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While I liked Alaska, I think with Colors they've reached a new level and I find this album excellent (and in any other discussion I wouldn't even mention the vocals, but apparently it's an issue here, so I'll just say I don't have any problems with them having listened and loved this kind of music for long and other bands with much more "challenging" vocals).
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 05:11
Colors was an excellent album (even if they cant spell colour ) and I dont mind the vocals at all, though I think they could have made more use of clean vocals.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 05:47
| Decent band. I wouldn't call them Prog. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 06:03
| Great album but not to everyone's taste. Not a lot like Dream Theater. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 15:56
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How does everyone else feel about them?, and Has anyone seen them live? How is their sound? and Is it as good as the studio recording?
They're the future of prog metal,definitely taking the genre to a new level.I have seen them once live,on their Alaska tour.It was in a small club and their sound was really good,but not quite as good as their studio recording.I'll be seeing them later this month on the 27th and will get back to you if there was any improvement. -------------  |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 20:23
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Colors is flat out amazing. So fresh, varietal, impactful, and a bunch of other positive adjectives. One of my all-time favorites for sure. Alaska is fantastic, and The Silent Circus is also quite good, but you tend forget about them now that Colors is out. I do agree with Sleeper in that I would love to hear more clean vocals next time around. I'm quite content with what they're doing now, though. I saw them last weekend on the Prog Nation tour. They played very well, but the sound wasn't great since the band wasn't given a decent soundcheck. The vocals definitely sound better on the album (I can't think of any vocalists who don't, though), but it's funny seeing how such a small guy can belt out those growls, not to mention a very impressive clean vocal as well.------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 11 2008 at 23:45
I had a friend say he saw them open for Dragonforce  , and said they were easily the worst bandd he's yet to see live, and I'm not being biased either.-------------
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 00:51
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Colors has its moments, for sure. i dont really like it overall, but it's a decent album and one of the few albums of its kind i can get into. Sometimes the sound is just too loud. the second song's opening is a perfect example. i also found the vocals (especially when he was grunitng/screaming) to be very one dimensional and boring. he mixes this up occasionally with more high pitched screams and singing which is nice but there's not enough of it. the instrumental work almost makes up for this tho. the short, jazzy song is awesome and i really like Informal Glutony which is the best song they've written yet. Alaska is about on the same level in my book, Colors is just more realized artistically. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 01:16
Ugh, count me out then! Anyway, I like some of their older stuff. They're a decent deathcore band, but that's about it for me. Good music ruined by puke-worthy vocals and lyrics. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: Fenmalain
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 02:06
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They are a very talented band, but not my cup of tea.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 03:16
"I will just keep waiting... you will just keep waiting. In the cold... The supplement... we lost some friends... we drove the bends... so small... A conscious decision to persuade ourselves amongst the common human... The drive to complete ourselves has become a blurry vision." Please, what's "puke-worthy" about that? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 10:53
I'd say they were more like one aspect of the future of prog metal, bands like The Pax Cecilia, Grayceon and Mastodon have just as big a claim on that. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: avalanchemaster
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 13:12
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I have seen them live. they use triggers on the drums, otherwise the sound is superb and you can actually hear the bass playing. Colors is great.....like you said, Alaska is not quite as good.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 15:26
Ah, I'll be beating you to seeing them this tour for I am going to the show on the 22nd in NYC ..but do tell how they play at that show as well, just to compare if they were having an off night one night.-------------
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 16:29
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I have tried more than once but I just can't get into this band.
They're talented for sure, but I guess I just have too many prejudices against metalcore, specifically the vocal style. I'd rather hear death metal growls or black metal style vocals than tuff-guy hardcore / weak melodic lines.
I don't know... just personal issues and I won't say they're bad. At any rate, I'm seeing them in 3 days when they open for Opeth. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:18
I agree,I didn't mean that they are the ONLY band who are doing something different in PM.They are one of the bands that are expanding and broadening the genre. ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:20
I will do that.The night before I see BtBaM I am also seeing Dethklok live,I am really excited about that show too. ------------- |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 18:58
That tour isn't coming to Pittsburgh!!!  ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 12 2008 at 21:05
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I like them muchly. Course I'm still a pretty big metalhead, so I don't mind the DM vocals as much as some here. They have so many musical ideas and they seem to want to see them all played out, I expect it's a challenge for them to cover all the bases. It could be a disaster in other hands, yet everything just flows together perfectly.
I have no plans to see them live, as I'm getting a little old to be dragging myself to shows.....
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Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 19:31
Sorry, but what? I mean, unless you are so old you can't physically go to concerts, that is one of the lamest things I have ever read.
And I love Colors. First Cd by them I have bought. Didn't like it at first because it is so chaotic, but after a couple listens, it is one of my favorite albums. I only wish thier were more soft interludes and more clean vocals. Being pciky with those complaints though. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 20:24
I live about an hour away from the major concert market in my area, and it's a royal pain in the ass going there in the evening, trying to find parking without getting ripped off, and coming home with my ears buzzing in the middle of the night. Plus I work a regular 8:30-5:00 job, which isn't exactly compatible with concertgoing. It's gotten to be more trouble than it's worth.
In other words, I embrace my lamitude. Got a problem with that?
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:20
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Never heard them, but their name and general presentation strikes me as sickeningly pretentious. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 10:18
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Saw them last night in Orlando with the Progressive Nation 2008 tour. When they took the stage the first thing that struck me is how young they were.
The break down parts in the prequel to a sequel wasn't nearly as clean as on their album colours. They only had a half hour so it was pretty much just Selkies, Prequel to the sequel, Viridian and White Walls.
Only thing I took away from them was they had some very intense bass lines:)
Now 3 on the other hand just blew me away. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 10:21
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I love them a lot. I had been getting bored with the general state of metal, but BtBaM is one of those bands that have made it exciting for me again. Colors is just a phenomenal album IMO and if they ever come to Melbourne, I'll definitely see them live. ------------- 
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Posted By: Demonoid
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 13:05
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For those who are bitching about the vocals-First check the genre before listening. If death metal vocals isn't for you, then i think you should just stay away and not complain about it. Anyways, colors is an awesome album. They are very technical at times. Too bad, theres no prog nation tour in my country :( |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 13:39
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I don't mind death metal vocals, but I can't stand the more hardcore/throaty kind of death vocals (especially from the BTBAM guy). His pitch and tone are nails on the chalkboard for me.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 14:26
sorry but their name strikes me more as something "core" than anything else, which is what they were when they were starting out...not really pretentious-------------
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 14:44
Who said "-core" bands couldn't have pretentious names?  In fact, those usually have pretentious names... really long ones that are so obviously supposed to sound all poetic, but - well, fail at that.------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 14:55
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I think they're very unique. I don't listen to them a whole lot because their vocals get a bit old. I do enjoy them from time to time. I have a feeling they are going to put out some solid material for years to come. As far as Live, they are exceptional. I was blown away at their skill and energy. ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 19:21
I agree. I saw them the day before in Miami (review in the live lounge) and the ones that really blew me away were THREE. BTBAM lacks stage presence, and the sound was horrible. The music is so much better on record than live... and they look... kind of weird for such an extreme band, not that it matters anyway but when they took thew stage I was ready for some emo really... Great band on record, so-so life. ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 23:12
that's odd, my friend who saw them in New York said their vocalist had insane stage presence -------------
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 12:38
Yea, the singer does have great stage presence. The other guys are clearly into the music as well, but the songs are so demanding that they can't go too nuts while playing them. Plus, being on a tour where they are playing in theatre-type venues, often with seating front to back, the band can't do their normal thing. They're normally playing smaller venues with the crowd right on the edge of the stage, allowing for more band-crowd interaction and what not.
Also, you can't blame the poor sound on the band. They're not responsible for how the mix is. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 14:23
You got me wrong. The band lacks stage presence except for the singer. he moves around and commands the crowd, the rest of them are too quiet and the drummer, even though he's VERY good, plays as if he was really trying hard not to make mistakes... especially after seeing THREE where the drummer was soin command of everything.. as I said in my review of the concert, the singer is the only one with presence.. even though he looks so much less metal than he sounds..  -------------
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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 14:36
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I like them alright, though I used to love them. One of my phases I suppose.
Colors was good, but not quite on the highest level I think the band could reach. I think now that, with Colors, they have ceased being a metalcore band with progressive metal tenancies, and more a progressive metal band with metalcore tenancies, and I think this is a style they can begin perfecting now that Colors is over and done with. and they are touring with so many prog metal bands as opposed to metalcore bands. their image is changing, and I think the music will too, and it'll all get better than it already is. Good band, but I think their future is brighter than their past. Also, I thought I'd add my two cents: live, supposedly they are very good. My friend has seen them 3 times, liked them all 3 times, and based on some youtube videos they seem technically capable and adept live, although their stage presence is a bit lacking. ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: July 07 2008 at 12:45
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They are one of the most talented bands out there. As far as their albums go, IMO Colors is the best, followed by The Silent Circus (although the recording isn't very good), Alaska, and self-titled. I like what they have done combining many genres into one giant song. ------------- Idk, My BFF Steve. http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: July 07 2008 at 12:51
 I saw them live a month ago opening for DT and these totally blew me away, they sounded very professional, especially the vocalist and the drummer.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 07 2008 at 12:53
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Colors (as well as the band in general) took me completely by surprise- the description of them would never make me think I would like them as much as I do can't wait to see how their next album sounds, though I think that might be a few years away -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 12:39
They're going into the studio pretty soon, after another North American tour  . Also they're recording Colors live at a show in Nashville and releasing it as a DVD...tickets are only $6, they're playing 2 sets: 1 is all colors, and the 2nd is old favorites  I can't wait for the release.-------------
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Posted By: Mantra
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 20:34
So thats what the voting was for on their myspace page, the 2nd set. That should be really great, I guess I'll have to start listening to their older material soon to know it for the DVD. ------------- 
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: July 13 2008 at 23:21
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They seem to me like a metalcore band that throws-in random, zany stuff to try and be "progressive" and different. Their experimentation doesn't feel genuine and the novelty is lost on me... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: July 14 2008 at 12:48
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/\ I can sort of understand that with the little barfight break or children laughing part, but I don't think that's where the "progressive" tag comes from in the first place
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 02:12
The Metalcore element is no longer really apparent in their music. It's here and there, but the metal side of it is now really drawing a lot from death and thrash metal and not really metalcore anymore. A band like BtBaM really do set out to express themselves, and I never felt anything they did was anything other than genuine. |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: July 15 2008 at 02:17
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Awesome band. I first heard them last year and I'm hooked ever since.
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