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Topic: Lets hear it for Experimental/Post Metal
Posted By: sleeper
Subject: Lets hear it for Experimental/Post Metal
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 09:29
Just to clarify, this thread is in support of all those bands in the Experimental/Post metal genre that arent  Post metal as they have their own thread with post rock (though if you think its prudent to mention one of those bands here, please do).

This collection of bands is quickly becoming my favourite side to prog, what with the likes of maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot and Indukti, even if some of them have very little in commen. Now, Tool, Anathema, Green Carnation, Indukti, Grayceon etc are all excellent bands but lets hear about other bands in the genre that could do with a bit of support. I'll get the ball rolling with an album I've ben listening to alot lately, Dark Suns Grave Human Genuine, its an absolute gem and currently running The Mars Volta's Bedlam in Goliath very close for my favourite album of the year so far.

So, thoughts, comments, protestations, expleitivs?


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 09:43
Shouldn't the proper term be experimetal?

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 09:46
Glad to hear you like the new Dark Suns album Andy,it is already one of my Album of the Year candidates.
 
There are a couple other bands in this genre that need some attention:
 
Day Without Dawn
Kekal (HIGHLY recommended,especially their last two albums)
Yakuza
Virgin Black
The Chronicles of Israfel
Noekk


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 10:14
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Glad to hear you like the new Dark Suns album Andy,it is already one of my Album of the Year candidates.
 
There are a couple other bands in this genre that need some attention:
 
Day Without Dawn
Kekal (HIGHLY recommended,especially their last two albums)
Yakuza
Virgin Black
The Chronicles of Israfel
Noekk


I know what you mean, even the bonus track 29 is excellent (not often that we get quality bonus tracks, they're normally demo's or songs that deserved to be cut from the album).

Thanks for mentioning Virgin Black, Requiem-Mezzo Forte is a great album.


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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 10:56
Hooray for this music!
 
also, try NADJA.  Big%20smile


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 12:09
I'll give this music a good cheer, experimental anything goes down well in my books, how else is music gonna move forward?

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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 13:54
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!


Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: April 01 2008 at 14:24
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!


You got that right. Best band I've ever heard so far this year and I think it's gonna stay that way for a long time.


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 04:53
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!

I'm having a bit of a problem regarding the vocals, for it sounded whinny.
I'll give it a few spins more, see if the album grows on me.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 12:46
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!

I'm having a bit of a problem regarding the vocals, for it sounded whinny.
I'll give it a few spins more, see if the album grows on me.

Whats the music like JD?


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 13:46
click on the link and read my review


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 14:16
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

click on the link and read my review

I have, I was looking for a second opinion. It does sound interesting but I cant really get my head around the concept of a band that sounds like a mix of Tool, PT, TMV, Oceansize, Dredge and Coheed and Cambria (especially since I dont know the last two).


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 14:55
Kayo Dot and maudlin are awesome

surprised no Devin Townsend mentioned yet
actually no I'm not
all the same, been trying to find more interesting bands in this subsubsubsubsubsemigenre Wink


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 16:40
^Well, if you havnt already, give Dark Suns, Virgin Black and In the Woods... a try.


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 17:18
never liked IN THE WOODS...just not my stuff. Has anyone heard of PAN THY MONIUM? Dan Swano's brutal experimental stuff. I've found their last album in the pile of the second-hand/cheap CDs in local store only for 1 $!


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 18:09
No Ulver mentioned!?!? Shame on all of you!
 
Talk Talk definately belong in this thread as well.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 19:49
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

never liked IN THE WOODS...just not my stuff. Has anyone heard of PAN THY MONIUM? Dan Swano's brutal experimental stuff. I've found their last album in the pile of the second-hand/cheap CDs in local store only for 1 $!
 
I was going to mention Pan.Thy.Monium but thought they would just be to weird for you n00bs!
 
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 02 2008 at 20:01
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

PAN THY MONIUM? !
 
I have their 3 albums listed in PA, all music that I love; heavy, intricate, complex, sometimes weird.
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10653 - Khaooohs & Kon-Fus-ion  especially, while not too long an album, has great tunes and the sax parts are great addition to the atmosphere.
 
 


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 03 2008 at 02:44
Is Sigh in there?  What a great band they are especially their last album.  Symphony orchestra + Japanese black metal = GREAT TIMES!


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 03 2008 at 03:21
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Talk Talk definately belong in this thread as well.


Talkies = Experimental Metal?

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10653 - Khaooohs & Kon-Fus-ion


yes, this one, with amazing post-punkish instrumental closing track


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: April 06 2008 at 14:03
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Talk Talk definately belong in this thread as well.


Talkies = Experimental Metal? 


 
Sorry, when I first read the title I only saw experimental, mah bad.


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Posted By: jme
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 11:08
would bands like BEHOLD THE ARCTOPUS and CO-CONSPIRATOR count as experimental metal?

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 12:21
I consider bands like Behold...the Arctopus,Dysrhythmia,Continuo Renacer and the like Technical Prog Metal,not Experimental.

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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 16:35
Yay for Subterranean Masquerade!

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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 09 2008 at 17:20
There are some really cool bands here, anything touched by the hands of toby driver being my favorite (kayo dot, maudlin of the well), but i am also a big fan of Devin Townsend (almost here because you cant really put him anywhere else),*Shels (a mix of wonderful melodies, small doses of post, post metal, and godliness)  and The Pax Cecilia which remains my favorite release from '07 and my favorite FREE release of all time. Thumbs%20Up one of my favorite subsubgenres of progressive music.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 14:28
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

There are some really cool bands here, anything touched by the hands of toby driver being my favorite (kayo dot, maudlin of the well), but i am also a big fan of Devin Townsend (almost here because you cant really put him anywhere else),*Shels (a mix of wonderful melodies, small doses of post, post metal, and godliness)  and The Pax Cecilia which remains my favorite release from '07 and my favorite FREE release of all time. Thumbs%20Up one of my favorite subsubgenres of progressive music.
 
If you appreciate Toby Driver's genius you should check out his Tartar Lamb project.It's basically a duo consisting of him and Mia Matsumiya of Kayo Dot.
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3460 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3460


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 14:56
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

There are some really cool bands here, anything touched by the hands of toby driver being my favorite (kayo dot, maudlin of the well), but i am also a big fan of Devin Townsend (almost here because you cant really put him anywhere else),*Shels (a mix of wonderful melodies, small doses of post, post metal, and godliness)  and The Pax Cecilia which remains my favorite release from '07 and my favorite FREE release of all time. Thumbs%20Up one of my favorite subsubgenres of progressive music.
 
If you appreciate Toby Driver's genius you should check out his Tartar Lamb project.It's basically a duo consisting of him and Mia Matsumiya of Kayo Dot.
 
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3460 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3460
 
Tartar lamb is indeed delicious! It's hard to imagine someone, even Driver writing all sixty minuetes of sixty menotomies on sheet music.


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 17:51
Ill have to check it out. I had 95% of all tarter lambs stuff downloaded over x-mas break and then the link broke. very upsetting. are they pretty easy to find?


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: April 12 2008 at 18:04
Being the long time Dead Raven Choir fan I am, it was a pleasure to finally have Godheadscope's latest album turn up at my door step.



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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 04:12
I probably look like a party-pooper by saying this, but the metal bands who try the hardest to look intelligent are paradoxically also those that come across as the silliest.

Just like metal isn't a genre that's well-suited to explicit humour, it's not well-suited for a self-consciously artsy approach either... there's very few metal bands that can pull those off in a way that doesn't make it look like they're bending over backwards to impress people who don't take metal seriously in the first place.

A good contrast of how to do "experi-metal" right and wrong, listen to Black Sabbath's late-1970s albums. On Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage the experimentation works, on Technical Ecstasy most of the songs aren't really metal but there's only three serious misfires (the boring ballads and Rock'n'Roll Doctor)... and then there's Never Say Die which except for the first two songs is a total and utter mess.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 09:54
Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

I probably look like a party-pooper by saying this, but the metal bands who try the hardest to look intelligent are paradoxically also those that come across as the silliest.

Just like metal isn't a genre that's well-suited to explicit humour, it's not well-suited for a self-consciously artsy approach either... there's very few metal bands that can pull those off in a way that doesn't make it look like they're bending over backwards to impress people who don't take metal seriously in the first place.

A good contrast of how to do "experi-metal" right and wrong, listen to Black Sabbath's late-1970s albums. On Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage the experimentation works, on Technical Ecstasy most of the songs aren't really metal but there's only three serious misfires (the boring ballads and Rock'n'Roll Doctor)... and then there's Never Say Die which except for the first two songs is a total and utter mess.

Your right, you are coming across as a party-pooper, and moe than that, your second paragraph is wrong. Metal is an extremely diverse genre of music and can be made to fit  almost any approach, its most certainly not all about being loud and brash, otherwise it would be pretty useless after 30 years. I'm not saying that there arent bands that match your description, but I suggest you give a number of the bands being talked about here a good listen first.


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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 10:23
Guess I just have enough bad experiences with "experi-metal" to become too curmudgeonish for my own good.

I have been hearing good things about Nadja and Behold the Arctopus from people I trust, though, so I might give them a try.


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 12:28
^ maudlin of the well seem to be universally well recieved, i'd at least give them a try. 

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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 14:13
Every time I hear about Maudlin Of The Well I think of the Maudling brothers from Bal-Sagoth. Of course, I'm not expecting MotW to sound anything like Bal-Sagoth really other than both bands being metal.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 13 2008 at 20:23
MotW is NOTHING like Bal-Sagoth and their music,while bearing a definite metal influence,is such a conglomeration of different styles that pinning them down to one single genre is darn near impossible.
 
Toby Driver is an avant garde genius,and you should really check out his impressive body of work.


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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 02:39
Which of MotW's albums should I start with?


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:15
id look at getting bath/leaving your body map. they're hard to find but you should be able to scrounge them up somewhere. and if you find a place post it here because i would like to get my hands on an original. 

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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:16
Ulver's blood inside is metalish in many respects and has just gained a huge amount of listens today. i think im in love HeartEmbarrassed

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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:28
BTW -  i saw this while checkin out ulver albums, does anyone know what this is or where i can get it?




http://www.jester-records.com/images/bi-vinyl-rs.jpg


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Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:29
 
im sorry everyone, but 'Dark Suns' are really really poor, i mean, just not great stuff, i guess i cant speak on the grand scale, but ive had 'Exsistance' for a year or so now and its just not that great at all, not terrible now, but just pretty poor, drummer vocalists never work, plus he aint all the great a drummer
 
also, Oceansize, not  a fan, i got 'frames' a while back, tryed to listen to it a few times but just couldnt get into it, really didnt hit me as anything too proggy, except for they'er meshuggah thing of "sleeping dogs and dead lions", ill try give it a listen 2moro on the bus to college but im pretty sure i wont dig it
 
 
on the lighterside, i must say im loving *Shels, only have they'er album so far, but i like her...i even sent in a voice clip thing for they'er next album *crosses fingers* Embarrassed
 
if this topic concerns both experiemental AND post-metal, i must say i really dig the whole gritty low ass riff'ing in post metal, but really hate the steriotypical screamo/growling sh*tty vocals that normally acompany it
 
shels seem to get the balance right, and have more'so clean vocals(which i personly prefer) but other bands ive listend to in that section of progarchives just scare me off with they'er stale un-inspired same'ness


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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:38
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

id look at getting bath/leaving your body map.


Ah, thanks. Smile

Quote they're hard to find but you should be able to scrounge them up somewhere. and if you find a place post it here because i would like to get my hands on an original. 


Don't worry, in this age of internet shopping I should be able to buy some of their stuff anyway. Albums by a band that's this famous among prog fans shouldn't be that hard to find anyway, I hope.Wink


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 16:55
Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:

 
im sorry everyone, but 'Dark Suns' are really really poor, i mean, just not great stuff, i guess i cant speak on the grand scale, but ive had 'Exsistance' for a year or so now and its just not that great at all, not terrible now, but just pretty poor, drummer vocalists never work, plus he aint all the great a drummer
 
also, Oceansize, not  a fan, i got 'frames' a while back, tryed to listen to it a few times but just couldnt get into it, really didnt hit me as anything too proggy, except for they'er meshuggah thing of "sleeping dogs and dead lions", ill try give it a listen 2moro on the bus to college but im pretty sure i wont dig it
 
 
on the lighterside, i must say im loving *Shels, only have they'er album so far, but i like her...i even sent in a voice clip thing for they'er next album *crosses fingers* Embarrassed
 
if this topic concerns both experiemental AND post-metal, i must say i really dig the whole gritty low ass riff'ing in post metal, but really hate the steriotypical screamo/growling sh*tty vocals that normally acompany it
 
shels seem to get the balance right, and have more'so clean vocals(which i personly prefer) but other bands ive listend to in that section of progarchives just scare me off with they'er stale un-inspired same'ness
 
There are a couple of bands in Post Metal who are breaking the Neurosis/Isis/Pelican mold and putting there own spin on the genre.Check out:
 
Grayceon
The Pax Cecilia
Giant Squid
Irepress
Yakuza
 
There are some great bands in this genre,give them a chance and you will find some gems among all the imitators.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 14 2008 at 16:57
And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.

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Posted By: _JC_
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 00:43
Just bought Devin Townsend's Ziltoid The Omniscient. Man, I love this guy, and I haven't been able to put this album down since I've gotten it.


Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 04:19
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

There are a couple of bands in Post Metal who are breaking the Neurosis/Isis/Pelican mold and putting there own spin on the genre.Check out:
 
Grayceon
The Pax Cecilia
Giant Squid
Irepress
Yakuza
 
There are some great bands in this genre,give them a chance and you will find some gems among all the imitators.


cool thanks man, ill check them out

i must say tho, i have one'a Isis's albums (cant recall name atm) and i really do enjoy the lush almost ambient sounds  they create but yea as i said i feel its almost ruined by the vox, altho ill admit it does work sometimes, just not all the time


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 04:28
^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
"i am the greatest guitar player ever to have lived!"
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 05:49
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.


Agr'd as for DWD, but I've NEVER heard DARK SUNS. I guess they're more Doom/Gothic-inspired Metal, than Post-Rocky one?


Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 14:13
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
"i am the greatest guitar player ever to have lived!"
genius.
 
im a lil' hasty with Ziltiod, not the worst not the best, its got some real cool parts, except the fact that its almost made like a movie kinda makes re-listens slightly annoying,
 
it comes to a point where you've heard the lines so many times they start to get annoying, just like when you've watched an episode of some show or a movie way too many times and then see it again shortly after seeing it last, you know exactly whats commin next and it spoils the pleasure of it, however i think this only applys to the parts where its pure conversational dialog between ziltoid and the humans
 
 
may we also discuss the "Devlab" here?... oh my...devin, what were you thinking? i dont want to be hasty with saying its sh*t, cos i love devin so much, and i dont want to say something then a few years later regret it, but from the listens ive given it i really cant get around it, and its almost like a joke half the time....im gonna melt you guys...


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 15:00
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!

I've gotta' go with Jody and Igor on this one (thanks for the "recommendation" IgorWinkClap). An excellent album and one of the best that I've heard this year.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 15:13
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.


Agr'd as for DWD, but I've NEVER heard DARK SUNS. I guess they're more Doom/Gothic-inspired Metal, than Post-Rocky one?


Dark Suns first album, Swanlike, is the closest I've heard anyband getting to imitate Opeth's sound, though without the acoustics guitar parts being so prominant (Infact, I think they're nearly none existent, though some very laid back clean guitar parts are regular), but its not just a copy, there's a definite sense of uiqness too it. I cant speak about their second album, Existenze, as I dont have it, but Grave Human Genuine (third album) is simply mind blowing. Very different with almost no growls left and completely unique, though I guess the Doom/Gothic inspired metal makes for a good loose description. Best album of the year for me form a band that is quite definitely progressing.


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Posted By: _JC_
Date Posted: April 15 2008 at 23:56
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
"i am the greatest guitar player ever to have lived!"
genius.


"Now, being hailed as the ultimate 4th dimensional guitar hero, Ziltoid feels confident in his complete victory.

But, Captain Spectacular has seen through Ziltoid’s façade and now sets out to expose Ziltoid for what he really is…a nerd.
A nerd…"

Hahaha, I love this album. I think Terria is my favorite of his so far though.



Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 00:41
^ mine too. one of my top albums of all time. 

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Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 04:18

terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 04:56
Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


What about Infinity?


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 05:46
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=165132 - DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!
I've gotta' go with Jody and Igor on this one (thanks for the "recommendation" IgorWinkClap). An excellent album and one of the best that I've heard this year.


Indeed! "The Undertide" is simply amazing.

I guess I need to get some DARK SUNS. Out local store has both "Swanlike" and "Existence", I'll check them out


Posted By: TR!P
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 17:24
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


What about Infinity?
 
do you mean, your wondering if Infinity comes closer to terria?
 
no chance man, infinity is way more up-beat metal'ish, there isnt as much kinda lush ambiance in it alike terria, the only tracks that come close to it are unity and dynamics


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 17 2008 at 00:30
Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient
 
Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.
 
But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: April 17 2008 at 01:28
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:

terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to iti still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient

 

Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.

 

But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


I second that...Hummer is a waste of cash.

Just adding some input on Dark Suns...I found 'Swanlike' to be a criminally underrated album of the bunch. It was a classic along with the next two, although I haven't given the new one much of a listen.

Fans of Dark Suns might want to check out Disillusion?


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 17 2008 at 04:44
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient
 
Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.
 
But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


So it says in the news section on his website: "Calm & peaceful noises to fall asleep to. Not for everyone".LOL

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 14:41
I'd like to reserect this thread with a recommendtion for Drawns A New World? An excellent album in the vein of In the Woods, not surprising being and offshoot, and might appeal to thos ethat didnt particuarly like the vocals of In the Woods.

Plus, I've just doen a review of Dark Suns Grave Human Genuine.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=173039 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=173039


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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 15:06
Ooh boy, when done propery, my favorite type of metal.
 
Some names that either haven't been mentioned, or mentioned too scarcely
 
Yakuza
Winham Hell
Eric Friesen
SubMasq
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum (well, metal-ish)
Gire
Thy Catafalque
Axamenta
These Monsters... (post metal-ish)
Carnival in Coal
IWRESTLEDABEARONCE (Yes, that's the actual name)


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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

Al di Meola.

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 15:56
^I know Sleepytime but I'll check the others out, thanks.Thumbs%20Up

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Posted By: Drakk
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 16:20
Not a problem, I'll even give some hints as to what they sound like ;D
 
Yakuza - Saw it tagged as Psychadelic Metalcore, but that's only partial.  They use Saxaphones in their music to add ambience and also often use world music beats to add a distinct flair.  Brilliant; try Transmutations or Samsara
 
Eric Friesen/Windham Hell - Classical metal, in the truest sense.  Taking both classical compositions and translating them to metal, and creating their own, they are a truly unique band.
 
Gire - Interesting, I'm still digesting their abum - but it's kind of like a Avant Metal/Electronic Hybrid; it has the classic fast tempo, blaring metal, but combines it with softer passages; however, they are usually not accoustic interludes, but electronic, ranging from ambience to techno.  In their faster passages, they add technoish bass pulses to the double bass for an interesting effect.
 
Thy Catafalque - Featuring members of Gire, it's a more ambient, meandering metal band, but it's brilliant as well.  Heavier classical influence in this than in Gire.
 
These Monsters... - Post Rock/Metal, with a huge helping of Jazz and Ambience; lucious Saxaphone, with some pretty heavy and emotional climaxes.
 
Carnival in Coal - Bungle Metal; Goofy influences like Techno, Disco, Pop and Bungle-esque crazyness added to Death Metal/Grindcore.  Really funny at times, and also interesting to boot.  Easily for fans of Estradasphere, Mr. Bungle or Dog Fasion Disco
 
IWRESTEDABEARONCE - Ha ha, female fronted Grindcore with a lot of electronic influences.  Juxtaposed with really tender sounding female vocals, and soft, accoustic and electronic pop sounds at times.  Very humorous, but pretty inaccessible.


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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde!

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haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde
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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 08:41
Last night I bought and listened to The Chronicles of Israfel "Starborn, Tome I," Kekal "The Habit of Fire," Noekk "The Water Sprite," Virgin Black "Requim - Mezzo Forte," Yakuza "Transmutations," and Dark Suns "Existence."
 
All were very good.   Think I'm really going to like the sub genre.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 12:44
Those are all excellent album! Also try out Yakuza's "Samsara" and the new Dark Suns album "Grave Human Genuine".

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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 13:17
Has anyone heard the sample from Indukti's upcoming album?  It's not metal, but it sounds awesome!  Here's the link:

http://www.indukti.com/english.htm - http://www.indukti.com/english.htm


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 13:31
Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

Has anyone heard the sample from Indukti's upcoming album?  It's not metal, but it sounds awesome!  Here's the link:

http://www.indukti.com/english.htm - http://www.indukti.com/english.htm

Damn, that was quite good, different to anything on their last album, a good sign. SUSAR is one of my favourite albums, I canot wait for this!


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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 13:37
Yeah, I think it just moved up to my most anticipated album of the year! Big%20smile


Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 14:31
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Those are all excellent album! Also try out Yakuza's "Samsara" and the new Dark Suns album "Grave Human Genuine".
 
Can get "samsara" easily, still shopping for "Grave Human Genuine" and Day without Dawn's "Understanding Consequences."
 
Can't wait for the new Indukti myself, oh and Kongh's "Counting Heartbeats" arrived today, still having problems finding Omega Massif.


Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 04:45

A local venue, the brass mug, is having a show next Friday.  I'm so there.

IntrOnaut
Behold...The Arctopus
Mouth of the Architect
Must...Not...Kill
Gigan
Retaliation
 
Clap
 
oh and can we rename this thread to something like Experimental/Post Metal appreciation thread.  Took me forever to find it  LOL


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 08:40
^Right, slight change to the thread title to make it easier to find but I would rather the thread was kept for mostly the expeimental metal bands(probably as useless a title as Progressive Rock that, but oh well) as Post Metal already has one or two threads but I wont complaine if theres a few mentiones of those bands in here.

BTW, that looks like its going to be one awsome show Plankowner.Thumbs%20Up

Right, since I last posted in here I've got a couple more albums of this type, most notably Dark Suns Existence. More of a transitional album between the Opeth'esk Swanlike and the more heavily PoS influenced, though very definitely unique, Grave Human Genuine. A bit clunky in places but generally very good.

Orphand Land Mabool was a bit of a disappointment, the eastern influences were nice but didnt make up for the slightly lackluster composition, not sure what all the fuss is with this band.

Actually, this shows just how few metal albums I've been buying recently, too much music to get, not enough time/money.LOL

One last thing, does anyone else think that Pain of Salvation should be moved from Progressive Metal to Experimental/Post metal? I know they've got nothing in commen with Post Metal, but neither does nearly half of the bands here and Entropia, The Perfect Element, Remedy Lane and BE are most definitely experimental albums with little in commen with the standard form of PM. I'm just canvasing for opinion here, if people agree with me I'll bring this up to the Prog Metal Team.



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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 17:17

In the Experimental/Post Metal, I have:

Blackwaves "012"
Blood & Time "At teh Foot of the Garden"
Callisto "True Nature Unfolds," "Noir"
Cancer Conspiracy "The Audio Medium"
Dark Suns "Existence," "Grave Human Genuine"
Day Without Dawn "Understanding Consequences"
All the Dead Soul Tribe albums
Deterior (free downloads :)
Dirge "And the Sky Shall Descend," "Wings of Lead Over Dormant Seas"
Drawn "A New World?"
Ganon "In the Dead of Sleep," "As Above, So Below"
Generation of Vipers "Grace," "Dead Circle"
Giant Squid "Metridium Fields"
Grayceon
All the Green Carnation albums
Hammers of Misfortune "The Locust Years"
Humanfly "II"
In the Woods... "Live at Coledonien Hall"
Indukti "S.U.S.A.R."
IntrOnaut "Void" "The Challenger"
All the Isis albums
Karaboudjan "Sbrodj"
All the Kayo Dot albums
Kekal "The Habit of Fire"
Latitudes "Bleak Epiphanies of Slow Motion"
Manatees "s/t"
Maudlin of the Well "Pyschobells"
Mouth of the Architect "The Ties that Bind," "Quietly"
Neurosis "A Sun that Never Sets" (DVD)
Noekk "The Water Sprite," "The Grimalkin," "The Minstrel's Curse"
North "Ruins"
Ocoai "Breatherman"
Orphaned Land "Mabool"
OSI "Free" "Office of Strategic Influence"
Pan.Thy.Monium "Khaoohs" and "Khaoohs III"
The Pax Cecilia
All the Pelican albums
Rosetta "The Galilean Satellites" "Wake/Lift"
Sepia Dreamer "The Sublime"
*shels "Sea of the Dying Dhow"
Tomydeepestego "Odyessa"
Transmission0 "0"
Trephine "s/t"
Virgin Black "Elegant and Dying," "Requeim-mezzo Forte" "Requiem Fortissimo"
Yakuza "Way of the Dead" "Samsara" "Transmutations"
Year of No Light "Nord"
Zozobra "Harmonic Tremors" "Bird of Prey"
 
 
 


Posted By: Dominic
Date Posted: August 09 2008 at 18:18
Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

Has anyone heard the sample from Indukti's upcoming album?  It's not metal, but it sounds awesome!  Here's the link:

http://www.indukti.com/english.htm - http://www.indukti.com/english.htm


Shocked !   Wow that sounds beautiful. Hopefully we'll see a new release from them this year.


Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 21 2008 at 02:43
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: August 21 2008 at 03:48

i just can't seem to be gettin enough of the UK's awesome Capricorns, a mix of Pelican-Mogwai with a sludgier grittier undertone:

http://www.myspace.com/capricornsoflondon - http://www.myspace.com/capricornsoflondon



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 21 2008 at 13:43
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

i just can't seem to be gettin enough of the UK's awesome Capricorns, a mix of Pelican-Mogwai with a sludgier grittier undertone:

http://www.myspace.com/capricornsoflondon - http://www.myspace.com/capricornsoflondon

 
Agreed.Their new album River,Bear Your Bones is amazing.


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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: August 23 2008 at 12:47
now listening to Isis's 'In The Absence Of Truth'. 

Quite a departure from 'Oceanic' and 'Panopticon' in that the sound/performance is so propulsive and light compared to the lavasludge crush of the previous two.  Still takes some getting used to for me but it does have its charms.............


Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: August 23 2008 at 13:05
Anyone listen to anything by The Ocean? Very good stuff.

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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 01:45
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

now listening to Isis's 'In The Absence Of Truth'. 

Quite a departure from 'Oceanic' and 'Panopticon' in that the sound/performance is so propulsive and light compared to the lavasludge crush of the previous two.  Still takes some getting used to for me but it does have its charms.............


When I first got a hold of In The Absence of Truth, Garden of Light got played at least 5 times a day for more than a month straight.


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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 04:26
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Originally posted by darkmatter darkmatter wrote:

Has anyone heard the sample from Indukti's upcoming album?  It's not metal, but it sounds awesome!  Here's the link: http://www.indukti.com/english.htm - http://www.indukti.com/english.htm
Damn, that was quite good, different to anything on their last album, a good sign. SUSAR is one of my favourite albums, I canot wait for this!


This sounds great. I loved S.U.S.A.R.


and I love bands that progress, as they seem to be doing. Anticipation for this album just skyrocketed for me.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:55
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

now listening to Isis's 'In The Absence Of Truth'. 

Quite a departure from 'Oceanic' and 'Panopticon' in that the sound/performance is so propulsive and light compared to the lavasludge crush of the previous two.  Still takes some getting used to for me but it does have its charms.............


When I first got a hold of In The Absence of Truth, Garden of Light got played at least 5 times a day for more than a month straight.

Itsa nice album but the production leeves a lot to be desired IMO, the guitars dont have any bite to them. The materiel sounds excellent live, though.

Just got Yakuza's Transmutations albu, brilliant stuff!


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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 13:26
ive got yakuza's samsara and im digging it. love the jazz influence.
ITAoT is nice, but i agree the guitars have no force at all. cool drumming but it all gets a little repetative. and i really dislike the vocals and the entire album. did like Firdous E Bareen and the short spacey number quite a lot however. im deleting my review of that album and rewriting it, i almost completely disagree with what i wrote.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 24 2008 at 16:48
^I rather like the vocals on that album. Got to say, though, I prefer Cult of Luna with this style of Post Metal.

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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:28

the distorted guitar parts were i thinked mixed a lil too low so its frustrating somewhat......... like u KNOW that bit is supposed to be more crushing but isn't..............

but the paradoxical thing is that i keep wantin to go back to listen again hahahaha.............i wouldnt wanna say that Isis pussed out when you know they are tryg to do something diff from the post-metal beast they helped birth...........


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 02:41
yeah i dont know why i dont like the vocals. . . the mellower ones are alright but not great and the growling (always a weak point of isis's post imo) were just a little too samesy throughout.
Cult of Luna is rising fast thought on my charts. reeeaallly like somewhere along the highway. def. better than newer isis (post oceanic)


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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 02:49
Really Mike? That makes me happy to see! Somewhere along the highway is in my top five favorite albums of all time, absolutely genious.
I like Aaron Turner's growl, even on the pitiful in the absence of truth.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 11:22
Have you seen them(Cult of Luna) live Dim? Finland is absolut magic!

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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 26 2008 at 17:52
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Have you seen them(Cult of Luna) live Dim? Finland is absolut magic!
 
The last time they toured here was on their tour for salvation, which was almost four years ago, so no I havent seen them, but their supposedly coming to the states this time around, and there will be nothing stopping me from seeing them.


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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 23:24
just found out about this band Swallow The Ocean:
 
http://www.myspace.com/swallowtheocean - www.myspace.com/swallowtheocean
 
 
ahhh, tks to Isis, we love the idea of oceans..........Oceanic, The Ocean, Ocean, cmom cmon who else has ocean in the name?


Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 03 2008 at 23:26
oh yeah or water-aqua allusions.............there's Tides too.........


Posted By: WhisperInTheNight
Date Posted: September 05 2008 at 20:41
Man, I haven't listened to Isis in forever.  I must rectify the situation.

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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 05 2008 at 22:48
Originally posted by WhisperInTheNight WhisperInTheNight wrote:

Man, I haven't listened to Isis in forever.  I must rectify the situation.
 
Thats a good idea!Big%20smile


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Posted By: WhisperInTheNight
Date Posted: September 05 2008 at 23:35
I remember In The Absence Of Truth being notably different from their earlier material.

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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 05 2008 at 23:41
I personally dont like it at all, it just doesent have the vibes that Oceanic or Panopticon have.

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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 09 2008 at 05:11
ahahah took me so long but of late i have been playin it and hey hey hey it DOES somehow work itself out eventually as a good transitional album, where Isis are leaving behind the sludge and movin into something more proggy n' propulsive...........but Holy Tears does manage to crush quite beautifully...........


Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: September 13 2008 at 23:23
IntrOnaut "Prehistoricisms" is being released in 3 days.. Sep 16, 2008.


Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: September 15 2008 at 17:20
intrOnaut is an interesting band. dont really know what to think of them yet but i think i like them . . . ive got Void and Challenger (and the t-shirt that came with them!) 

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Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: September 18 2008 at 18:11
I'm liking the new Intronaut... had a bit of a preview when I saw them live, love the drums on the track "Any Port"   ... Still on the first listen.


Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: October 06 2008 at 21:52
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

intrOnaut is an interesting band. dont really know what to think of them yet but i think i like them . . . ive got Void and Challenger (and the t-shirt that came with them!) 
 
Jury still out?


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: October 07 2008 at 10:56
Ooo I didn't know Intronaut had a new one.  I'll have to check it out.  I like Void a lot.

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