Prog Gone Wild Life, Part 1
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Topic: Prog Gone Wild Life, Part 1
Posted By: rushfan4
Subject: Prog Gone Wild Life, Part 1
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 11:55
You all have heard of the Oscar worthy video series, Girls Gone Wild, so I bring to you a discussion thread/poll for Prog Gone Wild. I have listed 25 bands from the letters A through E, with animal-ish names. Same thinking as my food poll/threads from earlier in the week. I know that there are folks out there with knowledge of these bands. Please share this knowledge with the rest of the class. There are a few more recognizable names on this list, so maybe there will be a bit more class participation. I was going to leave off Blue Oyster Cult because they are prog-related and also everyone knows them, but I needed a 25th to fill the pull so hence, I included them. Also, please note, the Camel that is listed is not the "Moonmadness/Mirage/Snow Goose" Camel; this is the Psyche/Space rock Camel, that many of you must have been confused about with the recent Camel -vs- ELP poll, and hence why you voted for Camel.
I will add additional Prog Gone Wild polls for the rest of the alphabet at a later time, but only if the rest of you seem Wild about the idea. If you haven't participated in the Food-related band poll/threads, please do so. I could be wrong, but I think that there are many prog fans on this site that are interested in learning about and talking about bands other than Genesis, Rush, Yes, ELP, KC, VDGG, GG, JT, and PF.
Edit: This is as much or more about the discussion then it is about an actual poll. The multiple vote option is allowed so please vote for as many of the bands as you would like to discuss in this thread.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:03
rushfan4 wrote:
I could be wrong, but I think that there are many prog fans on this site that are interested in learning about and talking about bands other than Genesis, Rush, Yes, ELP, KC, VDGG, GG, JT, and PF. |
Yeah there are some...
Arachnoid is a wild thing and so I went for them (though I am a big fan of Camel's 4 first albums).
EDIT - Made a mistake about Camel - was referring to the known Camel.
The Camel in this poll I've only heard 2-3 times and don't remember anything special about it.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:14
Assaf, You are one of the obvious members of prog fans on this site that like to talk about bands other than the big ones. I am not familiar with Arachnoid or Camel, the psyche/space band. Is there anything that you can tell me about them?
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:29
Dragonfly is a one shot wonder symphonic band from Switzerland , of all places. That one magic self-titled recording stems from the arid and barren period when Prog was drying up like a wadi in the musical Sahara! 1981 was not a good year for this kind of music and the album was made out of love for a dying genre. Definitely worthy of purchase, as one of those shining hidden gems that make our beloved genre so special.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:30
I know a few of these bands... Art Bears are one of my favourites and they make sort of polemic avant-pop - realy dissonant but definitely punchy. You can't not *react* to their music. I've wanted to review all three of their albums but Syzygy's thoughts seem definitive on each.
Birdsongs of the Mesozoic is an off-shoot of a band many music-lovers know - Mission of Burma - but they play chamberfied and demanding rock music - I can't recommend them based on anything specific as they seem to have a millions albums and I've only heard two. =P
Deerhoof are cute =) they deconstruct indie and add experimental touches. My favourite from them is Milk Man but whenever I say that, everyone tells me I'm not listening o:)
(Geck0 will come in later and gush over Catapilla...)
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:44
Arachnoid for me. Dark with mellotron, what else could one ask for ?
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:50
Dragonfly sounds like they would be well worth the listen. I wonder how difficult they will be to track down. Sounds like step one is a visit to Synphonic.
The website eMusic has the Art Bear's album Hopes and Fears available for download. How does this album compare to Leg End, which so far is the only album I have heard from Henry Cow.
Thank you for the info on Birdsongs of the Mesozoic and Deerhoof. I have heard of both bands but I am not familiar with either. I have seen Birdsongs of the Mesozoic albums for sale on a couple of websites, but have not checked them out yet. Sounds like they might be worth checking out.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:53
rushfan4 wrote:
Thank you for the info on Birdsongs of the Mesozoic and Deerhoof. I have heard of both bands but I am not familiar with either. I have seen Birdsongs of the Mesozoic albums for sale on a couple of websites, but have not checked them out yet. Sounds like they might be worth checking out. |
I'd check out either http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4643 - Petrophonics or http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4644 - The Iridium Controversy
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 12:55
Hopes and Fears is rather distinct from Leg End - there's less jazz and more drama, and features strong (and divisive) vocals all the way through.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:01
eMusic has Arachnoid's self-titled album for download too. This could be a good month of new stuff from bands I am currently not familiar with.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:01
We'll be adding it soon, and then you could add Birds & Buildings to your poll.
Wonderful album, eclectic in that you'll hear many styles inside (from zeuhl, jazz, rock etc). Another great release from a Dan Britton project.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:09
sinkadotentree wrote:
Arachnoid for me. Dark with mellotron, what else could one ask for ? |
I also suggest getting Arachnoid, another one-shot deal from France that has an eerie ,spooky "Metallique" aura to it , very sombre and highly original. sinkadotentree is, as usual , hyper-correct .
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:19
Atomic Rooster, a perfect clearence of what is heavy prog about, you will enjoy if you like hammond driven bands, if you like Deep Purple, this is a great heavy prog band to follow, their debut, and In Hearing of the Atomic Rooster are really good, but their most DP stlyish and more hammond driven is their their great Death Walks Behind You.
Then Made In England and Nice an' Greasy are like Stormbringer in some way, with much funk elemnts leaving the heaviness.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:34
Atomic Rooster for me
I love the heavy hammond organ, Death Walks Behind You and In The Hearing Of are two excellent albums.
Saw them on a reunion tour in the mid 80's and they were truly excellent with a very small crowd
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:37
tszirmay wrote:
sinkadotentree wrote:
Arachnoid for me. Dark with mellotron, what else could one ask for ? |
I also suggest getting Arachnoid, another one-shot deal from France that has an eerie ,spooky "Metallique" aura to it , very sombre and highly original. sinkadotentree is, as usual , hyper-correct . |
It's a wonderful album of the electro-acoustic variety. In the past, I've usually listed it as my favourite in Symphonic Prog (and, along with Carpe Diem and Shylock, set me off on a French "Symphonic Prog" journey). Definitely listen to the streaming mp3 here (that's how I discovered it, by going through all the Symphonic Prog mp3s).
It's theatrical, spooky, but also fun, and has avant rock qualities.
SO it would be an easy one to vote for me. More recently, however, I've been really into Art Bears and related music, so I'll give it to Art Bears. The World as it is Today was the album that got me into the Bears "Out of town, my work takes me out of town. I empty villages, I burn their houses down..." It appeals to my RiO and Canterbury side.
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 13:41
Carptree is a duo from Sweden (yeah, the prog Sauna!) that has one real good album "SuperHero" that has a modern Gabriel tinge to it with some splendid tunes. The 2 follow ups "Man Made Machine" and "Instinkts" are not as impressive , somehow not clicking with me , needing perhaps some more attention.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 15:05
I am listening to Toutes Ces Images from Arachnoid's self-titled album from the stream on PA. It is quite good.
And not surprisingly, from their page on PA, I was led to a thread started by Avestin which recommends this band.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43073&FID=51 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43073&FID=51
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 15:57
It's because of Avestin's recommendations that i'm broke all the time. Glad to see i'm not the only one. I'm not complaining though he's opened my eyes and ears to a ton of new bands and music.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 15:59
The track I'd most recommend, generally, to Prog fans from Arachnoid is the first one "La Chamadere" (check out http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=223327979 - myspace ). It's an album that crosses styles that could be a great gateway into other French bands (and into the more avant side of things). The mellotron was mentioned, but, although I like many albums that uses Mellotron (and it can be extensive), I'm generally not a mellotron fan (I know that makes me a heretic)... It's the piano which is so enjoyable in that album for me, but it's a good combination of electric and acoustic.
I have drifted from that album somewhat as I got into other music (and that was a fairly early one for me after I got back into Prog in a big way), but a big hand for Arachnoid -->
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 16:23
Centipede is a combination of Lizard era King Crimson and Soft Machine doing their avant-garde jazz improv thing. There are lots of members from both bands in this huge jazz orchestra led by Keith Tippet. Read my review of the album for more info.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 16:29
Easy Money wrote:
Centipede is a combination of Lizard era King Crimson and Soft Machine doing their avant-garde jazz improv thing. There are lots of members from both bands in this huge jazz orchestra led by Keith Tippet. Read my review of the album for more info. |
Right up my alley then... I've heard a little Centipede and really liked it, but put it on the back-burner due to the fairly low rating at this site (not being a music reviewer -- I used to write film reviews for the local rag and that, as well as my studies, is what put me off -- I tend to be lazy about reading reviews, but read yours and that really piqued my interest).
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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: March 22 2008 at 16:38
Aardvark is kind of ELP-like in that it's keyboard-driven. Not much to say about them... Good, but run-of-the-mill.
Atomic Rooster is closer to a straightforward rock band, with fairly minimal prog influences (at least in what I've heard) In Hearing Of and Made In England are both pretty good, but ultimately non-essential. I don't really know about the rest other than the fact the Carl Palmer played on the debut album before joining ELP (as if anyone didn't already know that )
Blue Oyster Cult is a great rock band that were allegedly only "prog" during their early years. but that doesn't devalue the rest of their career! Everybody has probably heard their HUGE hit "Don't Fear The Reaper", as well as some others such as "Burning For You" (it's not a love song!) and concert favorite "Godzilla". I'm not familiar with their early work, but as a document of their worth I'd recommend Extraterrestrial Live to someone looking for a place to start (in the band's "rock" side), which I also find preferable to their earlier big live album Some Enchanted Evening.
Camel is good for some mellow but skilled playing. Typical sound of 70s Symphonic, I suppose, but they do it well. The first 4 albums (particularly Moonmadness) and Live Record are the ones to get. And as good as The Snow Goose is, the whole thing is played on Live Record.
Catapilla is a really great band with a female vocalist and interesting instrumentation. Although categorized as Eclectic Prog, I have always considered them to be truly split between that genre and Jazz Rock/Fusion - lots of brass, etc. Very enjoyable listen if you are into it. PA ratings show Changes as our member's preferred album, but personally I find the debut, Catapilla to be superior (not to mention longer)
BTW: Rushfan, thanks for not including DragonForce
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 01:21
I know quite a few of those bands. All are pretty good. Black Widow doesn't really do it for me though. Their first album is the best IMO.
Badger and Blue Oyster Cult are my two favs on the list. Any BOC from the 70s is excellent. Also Death Walks Behind... by Atomic Rooster is a must have! Its killers.
I don't believe I saw Krokodile (krautrock) on the list, or the Green Bullfrog (pre-Deep Purple), Also Orang-Utan.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 11:12
BroSpence wrote:
I I don't believe I saw Krokodile (krautrock) on the list, or the Green Bullfrog (pre-Deep Purple), Also Orang-Utan.
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Neither Green Bullfrog or Orang-Utan are on the Archives. If they belong here, you might want to suggest their additions.
In regards to Krokodil, I didn't recognize the spelling as being Crocodile and thus missed them. Here is a link to a thread started by Avestin that talks a bit about this band.
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25624&FID=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25624&FID=1
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 11:21
Catapilla for me. great and overlooked band. too bad they only made 2 albums
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 18:54
I have some of Krokodil's output, but my favourite is An Invisible World Revealed which is a great psychedelic and sometimes heavy (some blues influence even). A cool ride and the reissue has nice bonus tracks with great jamming.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 25 2008 at 19:36
Logan wrote:
The World as it is Today was the album that got me into the Bears "Out of town, my work takes me out of town. I empty villages, I burn their houses down..." It appeals to my RiO and Canterbury side.
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That song/album where it clicked for me too.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 08 2008 at 19:09
This morning I was listening to the Animal Logic self-titled debut album. They weren't included in the poll since they're not on PA. Is anybody familiar with them? My thoughts are that they might be a candidate for prog-related or maybe jazz/fusion or crossover. They were a band consisting of Stewart Copeland from the Police on drums and Stanley Clarke of Return to Forever fame on bass. They had a female vocalist Deborah Holland. On their first album, the guitarists were Steve Howe and Peter Haycock. I'm not sure how many songs Steve Howe appeared on. Allmusicguide describes their first album as "a cross between fusion, art rock, and album rock - blended with a slight eye on the charts". To me this sort of describes a band that might fit in that ever elusive progressive pop category. Any thoughts?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 05 2008 at 16:14
wow... and Camel isn't winining this.... no ELP or Magma to kick around
Beardfish... watch out for this years release of Sleeping in Traffic vol2. Album of the year.. You heard it here first.
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