For the young ones not.
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Topic: For the young ones not.
Posted By: Guests
Subject: For the young ones not.
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:04
Lets divide you young one up here...Come on young boys bet you don't know what track's this from? Lady Supermarket with an apple in her basket
Knocks in the manager's door;
Grooning to the muzak from a speaker in shoe rack
Lays out her goods on the floor;
Everything she's chosen is conveniently frozen.
Eat it and come back for more!
Lady Window Shopper with a new one in the hopper
Whips up a chemical brew;
Croaking to a neighbour while she polishes a sabre
Knows how to flavour a stew.
Never need to worry with a tin of 'Hurri Curri':
Poisoned especially for you!
No use to complain
If you're caught out in the rain;
Your mother's quite insane.
Cat food cat food cat food again.
Lady Yellow Stamper with a fillet in a hamper
Dying to finish the course;
Goodies for the table with a fable on the label
Drowning in miracle sauce.
Don't think I am that rude if I tell you that it's cat food
Not even fit for a horse!
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:17
I don`t have enough time for this.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:22
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I don`t have enough time for this.
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VB-go to the bathroom.Fill a glass with water.Open medicine cabinet.Locate "prozac".Open box and remove tablet.Place in mouth and drink from glass.Swallow.
Aah,better now?
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Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:26
Is it 'Les Dawson's - Piano concerto #3'
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:30
cat food by crimson? lol
its far too good to be anything that ELP ever wrote anyway 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:37
frenchie wrote:
cat food by crimson? lol
its far too good to be anything that ELP ever wrote anyway 
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Not so smart Frenchie we know you'r dad's sat there giving it away.
You saying these lyrics arn't better Man alone; born of stone;
Will stamp the dust of time
His hands strike the flame of his soul;
Ties a rope to a tree and hangs the universe
Until the winds of laughter blows cold.
Fear that rattles in men?s ears
And rears it?s hideous head
Dread .... death .... in the wind ....
Man of steel pray and kneel
With fever?s blazing torch
Thrust in the face of the night;
Draws a blade if compassion
Kissed by countless kings
Whose jewelled trumpet words blind his sight.
Walls that no man thought would fall
The altars of the just
Crushed .... dust .... in the wind ....
No man yields who flies in my ship
Danger!
Let the bridge computer speak
Stranger!
Load your program. I am yourself.
No computer stands in my way
Only blood can cancel my pain
Guardians of a new clear dawn
Let the maps of war be drawn.
Rejoice! glory is ours!
Our young men have not died in vain,
Their graves need no flowers
The tapes have recorded their names.
I am all there is
Negative! primitive! limited! I let you live!
But I gave you life
What else could you do?
To do what was right
I?m perfect! are you?

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:41
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:43
ps K9 check out that thread you did about the logo stealing! its been moved to discussions not related to music
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:54
frenchie wrote:
ps K9 check out that thread you did about the logo stealing! its been moved to discussions not related to music |
That litte picture you have at the bottom of your post is very child like Gothic bollox you see teenagers raving about.Absolutly nothing to do with prog...Move yourself Exit stage left,

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:55
Jeasus.

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 16:57
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it!
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:03
DAMMIT! Maani, at least put a sign up in the main discussions area that says moved! threads that i wanna reply to keep disappearing somewhere else and its hard to find them, the search is pretty useless cos none of em turned up!
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:03
The Archies -- Sugar Sugar, wasn't it?
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:06
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:13
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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you listen to it all the way through, i will personally go out and buy brain salad surgery instead of the Opeth DVD i was going to buy!
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:17
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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So now you're dismissing a band just because of how they look?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:19
frenchie wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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you listen to it all the way through, i will personally go out and buy brain salad surgery instead of the Opeth DVD i was going to buy! |
What would an ELP basher want to buy 'BSS' for?To take the piss?

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:22
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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you listen to it all the way through, i will personally go out and buy brain salad surgery instead of the Opeth DVD i was going to buy! |
What would an ELP basher want to buy 'BSS' for?To take the piss?

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i was thinking of listening with an open mind, reviewing the album, meeting you halfway. you know i feel like have given you a hard time tonight, its not beed a good day for me, so i will start being friendlier and i am gonna put on ELP's debut and give it another try once i have finished listening to Yanqui UXO, got any problems with them?
If i had discrimated bands for the way they look then i wouldnt be listening to ELP, i mean look at them! the first LP they had with photos of them on the cover was Love Beach right? and i wouldnt have let a band like that anywhere near my cd collection if i judged by looks, i mean MY GOD!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:36
frenchie wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i didnt know they were gothic, they look normal to me.
Have you ran out of proper insults, i expect better from you, since you managed to defend you band and take on most of the site, including reed lover!
Listen to Damnation, you will love it! |
Look frenchie i'm not here to take on no one,especially Reed.Reed & i have faced our differences in good humour & are respected friends now on here.
What the hell would i wanna listern to that crap for uh,??Well i did actually for two milli seconds that was enough.
I'm sorry but the long straigh black hair & logo styling is very gothic looking to me.
How the hell can you take the piss out of lyrics in comparison to that sh*t?
Wake up.. The no nonesence lyrics were part of the prog ideal in those days,far more clever than any lyric now.They may seem very childlike to you be they very cleverely convey what the artist wanted to convey.This obviously tells me you have no intrest in this music at all.

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you listen to it all the way through, i will personally go out and buy brain salad surgery instead of the Opeth DVD i was going to buy! |
What would an ELP basher want to buy 'BSS' for?To take the piss?

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i was thinking of listening with an open mind, reviewing the album, meeting you halfway. you know i feel like have given you a hard time tonight, its not beed a good day for me, so i will start being friendlier and i am gonna put on ELP's debut and give it another try once i have finished listening to Yanqui UXO, got any problems with them?
If i had discrimated bands for the way they look then i wouldnt be listening to ELP, i mean look at them! the first LP they had with photos of them on the cover was Love Beach right? and i wouldnt have let a band like that anywhere near my cd collection if i judged by looks, i mean MY GOD! |
If i see any inclination of someone digging at ELP there gonna get it,you did it early on saying that the King crimson Lyrics were better than anything ELP could have wrote,then you pull the KC lyrics down saying they were childlike.So is that not enough to piss me off then?
That's it you put ELP's debut on.The debut that people pull down over the later albums thats great.I don't discriminate any band because of how it looks.For instance i love the band ramases.He & selket his wife used to live life dressed as Ramases would have done thousands have years ago..So!..I just hate modern bands pawned off as prog,it's not & never will be.It's an imbaressment to the music & fuels the anti-prog reviewrs.I would'nt give it the time of day.
'Love beech' Uh! great one there last studio album before split & 1978 virtually the end of prog as we knew it.So your going for the first & last albums there very good.Do me a favour save the review ok!

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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:40
Karnevil9 wrote:
If i see any inclination of someone digging at ELP there gonna get it,you did it early on saying that the King crimson Lyrics were better than anything ELP could have wrote,then you pull the KC lyrics down saying they were childlike.So is that not enough to piss me off then?
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Do I have to start posting my ELP "selection" again,or are you going to behave?
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:45
arent you lovely!
sounds like you aint giving modern prog a chance, or maybe you are living in the past like jethro tull i believe, your missing out on some brilliant stuff, get with the times man! Well i will listen and review ELP, and i hope you read it! So much for trying to be nice to you.
btw, that whole lyrics thing was a JOKE, have a heart, i dont particularly think either lyrics are better or worse, its all opinion man, some ppl prolly do prefer cat food to elp, i mean i am perfect but are you! i guess it takes guts to make such a claim, or maybe ELP were eating too much cat food at the time! 
I wanna be your friend man, feel free to bash The Mars Volta and stuff as much as you want, even if i turned into an ELP fan i wud still bash em cos i just dont care, and i like a challenge and some humour! But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em off cos they are modern or look gothic, and btw if you think thats gothic you aint seen nothing!
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:47
Posted By: The-Bullet
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:48
Don't cut yourself Reed
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"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 17:56
frenchie wrote:
arent you lovely!
sounds like you aint giving modern prog a chance, or maybe you are living in the past like jethro tull i believe, your missing out on some brilliant stuff, get with the times man! Well i will listen and review ELP, and i hope you read it! So much for trying to be nice to you.
btw, that whole lyrics thing was a JOKE, have a heart, i dont particularly think either lyrics are better or worse, its all opinion man, some ppl prolly do prefer cat food to elp, i mean i am perfect but are you! i guess it takes guts to make such a claim, or maybe ELP were eating too much cat food at the time! 
I wanna be your friend man, feel free to bash The Mars Volta and stuff as much as you want, even if i turned into an ELP fan i wud still bash em cos i just dont care, and i like a challenge and some humour! But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em off cos they are modern or look gothic, and btw if you think thats gothic you aint seen nothing! |
Yes i am loverly when someone winds me the wrong way!
I won't give modern prog a chance cos i've heard all i can take.& i'm afraid i'm not missing out on anything at all.You cannot be nice to me Frenchie when you've just blasted ELP & King crimson at the same time.Joking or not it's personal ok!
I don't go bashing any particular band at one time the whole new race of so called prog is really bad.The original early prog is absolutly everything to me,the style,lyrics,the raw production,limited instruments of the time,bizzare lyrics etc all fantastic,time & fashion completely destroyed this all,you could hear it through the years the aweful progression of styles which is ironic but i know...The musicians actually destroyed themselves following the fashion,be it keeping up with trends such as the punk revolution or record companies sticking the foot dowN,either way it was done & so was prog.These new artists have absolutly no idea,they can't & never will.

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 18:30
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
arent you lovely!
sounds like you aint giving modern prog a chance, or maybe you are living in the past like jethro tull i believe, your missing out on some brilliant stuff, get with the times man! Well i will listen and review ELP, and i hope you read it! So much for trying to be nice to you.
btw, that whole lyrics thing was a JOKE, have a heart, i dont particularly think either lyrics are better or worse, its all opinion man, some ppl prolly do prefer cat food to elp, i mean i am perfect but are you! i guess it takes guts to make such a claim, or maybe ELP were eating too much cat food at the time! 
I wanna be your friend man, feel free to bash The Mars Volta and stuff as much as you want, even if i turned into an ELP fan i wud still bash em cos i just dont care, and i like a challenge and some humour! But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em off cos they are modern or look gothic, and btw if you think thats gothic you aint seen nothing! |
Yes i am loverly when someone winds me the wrong way!
I won't give modern prog a chance cos i've heard all i can take.& i'm afraid i'm not missing out on anything at all.You cannot be nice to me Frenchie when you've just blasted ELP & King crimson at the same time.Joking or not it's personal ok!
I don't go bashing any particular band at one time the whole new race of so called prog is really bad.The original early prog is absolutly everything to me,the style,lyrics,the raw production,limited instruments of the time,bizzare lyrics etc all fantastic,time & fashion completely destroyed this all,you could hear it through the years the aweful progression of styles which is ironic but i know...The musicians actually destroyed themselves following the fashion,be it keeping up with trends such as the punk revolution or record companies sticking the foot dowN,either way it was done & so was prog.These new artists have absolutly no idea,they can't & never will.

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old prog and new prog but old prog even more so is EVERYTHING to me, not just prog actually, i love both old and new. Please read my review of ELP, i gave it 4 stars, i would really love it if you read it. Also KC are one of my fave bands! I didnt even think i WAS bashing them 
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 18:49
Opeth is great. I, like K9, used to think that music was dead after the 70s. Just give him some time and maybe he will come to see that good music is around no matter what time it is (And you should listen to Bigelf if you want proof K9)
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love
'n you should have us all
O' you should have us fall"
"Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 19:20
aqualung28 wrote:
Opeth is great. I, like K9, used to think that music was dead after the 70s. Just give him some time and maybe he will come to see that good music is around no matter what time it is (And you should listen to Bigelf if you want proof K9) |
Sorry Aualung too late to em.You really think i'm gonna condem bands without listerning first even so how much it breaks my heart to do so.?

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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 19:23
Well, ok then. I don't see why, I hear a great deal of Sabbath/ELP/Crimson/Beatles influence.
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love
'n you should have us all
O' you should have us fall"
"Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 19:28
Karnevil9 wrote:
aqualung28 wrote:
Opeth is great. I, like K9, used to think that music was dead after the 70s. Just give him some time and maybe he will come to see that good music is around no matter what time it is (And you should listen to Bigelf if you want proof K9) |
Sorry Aualung too late to em.You really think i'm gonna condem bands without listerning first even so how much it breaks my heart to do so.?

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Baleeted
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 19:32
frenchie wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
arent you lovely!
sounds like you aint giving modern prog a chance, or maybe you are living in the past like jethro tull i believe, your missing out on some brilliant stuff, get with the times man! Well i will listen and review ELP, and i hope you read it! So much for trying to be nice to you.
btw, that whole lyrics thing was a JOKE, have a heart, i dont particularly think either lyrics are better or worse, its all opinion man, some ppl prolly do prefer cat food to elp, i mean i am perfect but are you! i guess it takes guts to make such a claim, or maybe ELP were eating too much cat food at the time! 
I wanna be your friend man, feel free to bash The Mars Volta and stuff as much as you want, even if i turned into an ELP fan i wud still bash em cos i just dont care, and i like a challenge and some humour! But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em off cos they are modern or look gothic, and btw if you think thats gothic you aint seen nothing! |
Yes i am loverly when someone winds me the wrong way!
I won't give modern prog a chance cos i've heard all i can take.& i'm afraid i'm not missing out on anything at all.You cannot be nice to me Frenchie when you've just blasted ELP & King crimson at the same time.Joking or not it's personal ok!
I don't go bashing any particular band at one time the whole new race of so called prog is really bad.The original early prog is absolutly everything to me,the style,lyrics,the raw production,limited instruments of the time,bizzare lyrics etc all fantastic,time & fashion completely destroyed this all,you could hear it through the years the aweful progression of styles which is ironic but i know...The musicians actually destroyed themselves following the fashion,be it keeping up with trends such as the punk revolution or record companies sticking the foot dowN,either way it was done & so was prog.These new artists have absolutly no idea,they can't & never will.

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old prog and new prog but old prog even more so is EVERYTHING to me, not just prog actually, i love both old and new. Please read my review of ELP, i gave it 4 stars, i would really love it if you read it. Also KC are one of my fave bands! I didnt even think i WAS bashing them  |
Frenchie whats this bit all inade in your review of ELP album regarding the finish of ''Lucky man''???????
'''''''yet it has a stupid ending which sounds like you are being chased by an ambulance or something!''''''''
Do you actually know what's going off there?First portable synthesizer!'MINI MOOG' of which not many people had heard off,a fantastic show piece that was taken on by virtually every prog band to follow.To hear a 'MINI MOOG' solo on a rock records was truly fantastic especially in the fasion keith did it making use of the powerful Oscolators/filters the synth had on offer.Even though the big 'Moog modular system he used prior to this was technically superior but you just could'nt get the sound & easy accesability the potable had.So it's not a bloody ambulance it's an electronic display of the artist & his new machine.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 19:42
aqualung28 wrote:
Well, ok then. I don't see why, I hear a great deal of Sabbath/ELP/Crimson/Beatles influence.
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Sorry aqualung,there's nothing there that turns me on.This is very personal to me which others may feel the same with.Set aside the bizzare lyrics & originality of early stuff.It's the atmosphere that does it for me.This is completely dead from the out set though if you listern to CD.The raw production reproduction & warmth given by vinyl playback terms is the key to the sound & body,it is imperative you have the highest quality audio system though to fully appreciate this.The newer material, even though very poor in contend will never have the feeling of the old recording,well their digitally mastered & most probably recordeed that way for a start,you see most bands rely too much on technology weither it be recording techniques,the way they write or the influences already set into their brains.Never ever will a new band create all the old bands & techniques created back then.

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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 20:57
I understand where your coming from
------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love
'n you should have us all
O' you should have us fall"
"Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 23:01
frenchie wrote:
cat food by crimson? lol
its far too good to be anything that ELP ever wrote anyway 
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Thats funny, Catfood and the song Karn Evil 9 were written by the same guy. 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 23:02
Reed Lover wrote:
frenchie wrote:
But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em ! |
Hey,stop taking cheap shots at Threefates,lad!

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So Reed, when your wife goes to give you a blow job, do you also think of me then??
Or does she not bother to do that anymore.. and thats why you think of me and BJs ??
Just wondering 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 23:11
threefates wrote:
frenchie wrote:
cat food by crimson? lol
its far too good to be anything that ELP ever wrote anyway 
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Thats funny, Catfood and the song Karn Evil 9 were written by the same guy. 
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Yeh it's ok Linda i know,this is what puzzled me with his statement.
The man tarketh bollux

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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 29 2005 at 23:28
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 02:43
Karnevil9 wrote:
'''''''yet it has a stupid ending which sounds like you are being chased by an ambulance or something!''''''''
Do you actually know what's going off there?First portable synthesizer!'MINI MOOG' of which not many people had heard off,a fantastic show piece that was taken on by virtually every prog band to follow.To hear a 'MINI MOOG' solo on a rock records was truly fantastic especially in the fasion keith did it making use of the powerful Oscolators/filters the synth had on offer.Even though the big 'Moog modular system he used prior to this was technically superior but you just could'nt get the sound & easy accesability the potable had. |
OK, so Frenchie's description of an ambulance was maybe a little off centre - however, this does not detract from his basic critique, i.e. it's not a very good solo.
Sorry, KE9, I happen to love the track (as I do most of ELP from this period), but even I can appreciate the fact that KE's Moog solo seems tacked on the end at the last minute, goes on too long, meanders without purpose, and leads the song itself to a messy conclusion - frankly sounding as if Lake, then Palmer get bored, and wander off.
Just because you're the first to do something, doesn't automatically mean you're the best at it.
Just don't get me started on Hendrix...
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 08:07
Well listening to it now even for the first time, after having experienced years of synths, does not compare to being able to listen to it the first time, when you'd never heard a synth before.
I thought the ending to Lucky Man when I first heard it, was the coolest thing I'd ever heard. It sounded like a perfect ending to me for someone who had just died so violently... and I really love the three drum beats at the end....
BTW... that was a first run for Keith, never played the thing before. He wanted to do it over a second time, but Greg said no, he liked it the way it was. I can imagine that if Keith had been given a second go... that solo would of been about 5 times longer than the original.. so I think its perfect just the way it is also. (And I've heard Keith's longer version of it)
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 08:33
'Lucky Man' is a fine song, but I have to agree with Jim about the Moog solo. threefates describes it in a way that seems to justify it to her.
But, my ears dont like it. It sounds completely innapropriate after such a moving song. It sounds like Keith Emerson just showing off his new Moog toy, and not being patient enough to wait until they wrote a song where it did work properly.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 10:27
threefates wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
frenchie wrote:
But i am giving ELP a chance, not blowing em ! |
Hey,stop taking cheap shots at Threefates,lad!

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So Reed, when your wife goes to give you a blow job, do you also think of me then??
Or does she not bother to do that anymore.. and thats why you think of me and BJs ??
Just wondering 
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No,but I think about you during sex,it helps to delay things somewhat
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 10:30
i am only 17, warped by the sounds of the MTV generation, i may not get the same out of it that you did back in the day but how can i? At least i listen to stuff from the 70s, most people i know just blow it off with the thought that "if it was made before i was born then it cant be good", people i know treat old music as handicaped.
Also K9, have you tried buying modern prog albums on vinyl???
and what about anglagard, they only use recording equipment and instruments that were available before 1974 or something, and they released their albums on vinyl.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 11:39
Come on frenchie - you'll be saying next that it's illogical and narrow minded to dismiss an album by it's date of release.
Tut tut - the youth of today, eh?
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 11:41
threefates wrote:
... and I really love the three drum beats at the end.... |
I thought that was Palmer dropping the sticks, saying, "bugger this, Greg, fancy a pint?"
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 12:30
Jim Garten wrote:
Come on frenchie - you'll be saying next that it's illogical and narrow minded to dismiss an album by its date of release.
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(I had to correct the grammar though. The adults of today, eh? )
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 13:54
Reed Lover wrote:
So Reed, when your wife goes to give you a blow job, do you also think of me then??
Or does she not bother to do that anymore.. and thats why you think of me and BJs ??
Just wondering 
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No,but I think about you during sex,it helps to delay things somewhat
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I can understand that... since you seem to get so carried away with thinking about me... you tend to forget what you're doing... I see thats the same with your sex life also... Must be hard on the wife....
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 13:55
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 14:17
frenchie wrote:
i am only 17, warped by the sounds of the MTV generation, i may not get the same out of it that you did back in the day but how can i? At least i listen to stuff from the 70s, most people i know just blow it off with the thought that "if it was made before i was born then it cant be good", people i know treat old music as handicaped.
Also K9, have you tried buying modern prog albums on vinyl???
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How many more f**king times Frenchie.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 02:22
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 02:37
Karnevil9 wrote:
frenchie wrote:
i am only 17, warped by the sounds of the MTV generation, i may not get the same out of it that you did back in the day but how can i? At least i listen to stuff from the 70s, most people i know just blow it off with the thought that "if it was made before i was born then it cant be good", people i know treat old music as handicaped.
Also K9, have you tried buying modern prog albums on vinyl???
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How many more f**king times Frenchie.

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So you're back?.. the loving.. sweet K9.. 
I've by the way tried elp - elp another time (Yes the original vinyl!).. but I still think it's crap..
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 04:38
I'm 24, but I usually feel 50 and look 12 after I shave, am I allowed to post in this thread ?
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