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Topic: Frippertonics or soundscapes?
Posted By: ProgBagel
Subject: Frippertonics or soundscapes?
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 20:11
I've been researching this for a few days now...and I understand how Fripp made this work in the 70's. But around the 90's he went into the digital process...and I can't really find out how to create them with your guitar.

Does anybody know? I am very interested in making my own.



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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 20:26
I'm using a Boss RC-20 Loop Station to create soundscapey things of my own.  It's pretty simple, you just set a tempo (or don't) and make a loop over it which gets corrected to the tempo so that the loop flows just right.  Then you can play over it and record overdubs if you want.  

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 22:34
I actually use bass instead of guitar for my soundscapes, as it allows me to and some depth to my loops, and my 5 string (tuned EADGC) has an awesomely high upper range, so I can still hit the way high notes.  

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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 23:27
So...is it just a computer program or something.

I have Reason...do you know if that has the capablility?

Maybe I don't know enough about how these soundscapes are created.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: January 14 2008 at 23:59
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I actually use bass instead of guitar for my soundscapes, as it allows me to and some depth to my loops, and my 5 string (tuned EADGC) has an awesomely high upper range, so I can still hit the way high notes.  


that's pretty interesting, most people that do like things use guitars. do you have any posted anywhere.

personally, i'm a keyboardist, so that's what i would use if i were to create them but it's not something i've really looked into although i find Fripp's system fascinating.


Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 17:28
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

So...is it just a computer program or something.

I have Reason...do you know if that has the capablility?

Maybe I don't know enough about how these soundscapes are created.


What I use is an effects pedal.  It's about 250 bucks, but I really dig it.

Robert Fripp uses a large stack of rack-mounted delay units, in addition to multiple layers of MIDI and other digital processing. 

The pedal I use won't make you sound like current-day soundscapes (that would require MIDI gear and other things), but you can do a fair impression of old-school Frippertronics. 


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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 17:29
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I actually use bass instead of guitar for my soundscapes, as it allows me to and some depth to my loops, and my 5 string (tuned EADGC) has an awesomely high upper range, so I can still hit the way high notes.  


that's pretty interesting, most people that do like things use guitars. do you have any posted anywhere.

personally, i'm a keyboardist, so that's what i would use if i were to create them but it's not something i've really looked into although i find Fripp's system fascinating.


I haven't recording anything yet (at least nothing that I like), but I have a rough formula for a simple piece based on that looping station which I'm starting to get to sound pretty good.  Once I record something I like I'll put a link to it here. 


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