Best TRUE metal...
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Topic: Best TRUE metal...
Posted By: Nuke
Subject: Best TRUE metal...
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 02:00
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In light of the other metal polls which sucked, I decided to test the waters of progarchives to see what flavor of True Kult Necrolords of dark frozen wastelands reside hereabouts. Name your favorite album if you please. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">  
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 11:50
as always, BS.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 11:53
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Sames as the other "sucky" polls. Judas Priest. Favorite albums from them British Steel and Sin After Sin. ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 12:03
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another vote for Judas Priest here... loved them back in the day... Raff has rekindled that in the last couple of months.
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Posted By: bizarro laplace
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 12:04
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I'll head the voting for Burzum. Filosofem's my favourite metal thing not titled Amplifier Worship.
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 12:38
| Iron Maiden ,but where is Manowar? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 13:15
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Emperor. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 13:38
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this poll ain't better than the others either - i had in mind to make a poll but there are too many already...
Iron Maiden gets my vote.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:01
What's this ... a True Metal poll without Manowar?
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:22
ARRRG!!! I forgot manowar! Forgive me metal lords  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:23
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I went for bathory myself... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:24
hahhaha... let's fix that... here you go Mike  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 22:33
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Iron Maiden, asi in every metal poll.... Where's Pantera? Anthrax? Benediction?
This ultimate metal poll leaves a lot to be desired...  ------------- 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 23:10
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^^ The T, we need the ULTIMATE OF THE MOST ULTIMATE METAL THAT IS TRUE METAL poll me thinks. The poll list should be at least double the size of this poll. if not triple. ------------- 
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Posted By: Jshutt64
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 23:44
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There's a whole lot missing, but of those listed, I'm going to have to go with Death. I'm sure nobody will agree with me, but...Chuck Schindler was really, really good and wrote some incredibly heavy and techical music.Crystal Mountain!
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 00:16
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^^While not my favourite band, Death's importance and influence on metal in general is often overlooked. Chuck was an amazing musician in all aspects, a great virtuoso and metal composer. -------------
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 02:07
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"Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" by Burzum is the most beautiful black metal song I've ever heard next to Alcest's work.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 02:16
| Burzum, closely followed by the mighty Bathory. |
Posted By: RKS1987
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 10:05
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Mercyful Fate reigns supreme in this topic and At the gates isn't very true.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 13:56
| I have a friend who's dad is a friend a member of Candlemass. Can't remember which one though. |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 19:41
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Hey, I just wanted to let everyone know that there was a limit on how many options I could put. So, while I regret missing manowar, I think some of the other suggestions are lame. C'mon, pantera? Anthrax is okay, I guess, but does anyone see them as the best? At the gates released "the red in the sky is ours," and therefore are true metal, nuff said. Btw, how did burzum get 2 votes if 3 people voted for them? Philéas, that is freaking awesome! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: 7/8_owns_4/4
Date Posted: January 15 2008 at 07:20
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Death without contest is the best band on that list. Followed by Athiest. ------------- Get a 7 string or get out. |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 04:31
| True Metal was coined by Manowar and actually refers to a type of fantasy oriented, classical influenced, honor and glory defined pure metal. Since it was coined by Manowar to describe themselves it stands to reason that they may be the forunner in "True Metal". Even though a lot of the bands listed may be great metal bands, they may not meet the definition of "True Metal". |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 13:59
WHERE 's AMORPHIS???
Where's Anal c**t?
Where's Mayhem?
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 14:12
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MERCYFUL FATE!!!! And King Diamond, of course! ------------- 
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 19:49
lol, anal c**t? That sh*t ain't going within miles of this poll  Amorphis, Mayhem, maybe next time. There's just not enough room  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 21:50
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I say Black Sabbath because of the many many amazing riffs that were later used to make equally great songs by greats like Sleep, Goatsnake, Orange Goblin, Queens of the Stone Age, Kyuss, Cathedral, blah blah blah you get the point. They were powerful then and now. They remained great until RJD's departure, but then he came back and they were great again for a moment. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 22:06
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^That was certainly one great thing about Sabbath, is that their influence did not just stay within metal, but extended to genres like post-rock and stoner rock. Even some punk and grunge bands cite Sabbath as influence. -------------
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: January 16 2008 at 22:07
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Death, THE GREATEST METAL BAND EVER
oh and Napalm Death wern't metal (especially not TRUE metal) untill their last few albums with few (none) of the origianal members, they are mostly good for their grindcore, wich is a punk genre (or was when they started playing it), like the punk version of death metal ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 00:55
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^I found Napalm Death's Grindcore period to be almost completely unlistenable. I've tried to be open minded about grindcore in genera , but I could never understand how anyone could listen to it. -------------
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Posted By: Integrator
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 02:45
I've never heard these bands."True metal" - what does it mean?Prog metal is no true?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 03:28
exactly, and Sad Wings too |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 11:41
To become a son of northern darkness, you have to worship the metal gods and have a touch of evil... (in other words, nope, prog isn't true metal....) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 13:16
I used to listen to that sort of thing, but I can only remember Napalm Death's first two albums as a brief murky blur. I'm over metal in general, now, but I kept hold of some Discordance Axis and Brutal Truth CDs; grind can be varied and intelligent, even if my ears can rarely take it nowadays. =) |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 18:02
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What a n00bish poll, where's Spock's Beard?
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Posted By: EnglishAssassin
Date Posted: January 20 2008 at 18:33
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Black Sabbath, aand their best album would be... Master of Reality. Nuke: You have a perfect excuse for missing Manowar out of the poll. Since they coined the term, then "true metal" as a definition only describes a band's proximity in sound and ethos to the loinclothed ones themselves. Including Manowar in such a poll would thus be pointless, since they could only win. Good logic, eh? Hence I voted for the only band Manowar could ever acknowledge as their superiors, Joey DeMaio's former employers Black Sabbath. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 04:02
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I voted, then forgot to post... I don't really know about 'true' metal (whatever it means), but I chose the mighty Judas Priest as representatives of classic heavy metal. Bands like Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica and Megadeth are, in my very humble opinion, definitely less straightforward than the British Steelers were at their peak.
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Posted By: reality
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 11:49
| True Metal? Look at my post above I already explained it. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:48
That may be true... and that's why I don't consider myself a metal-head as Judas Priest is, in my view, the very definition of heavy metal, and I just like them, barely. I prefer bands with other elelements like all those you mentioned and, mostly, progressive-metal bands. I guess I'm a prog-metal-head. -------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:14
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I personally believe that the first two albums of High Tide are a lot heavier than most of what is listed here.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 21:07
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Im heavly into Judas priest right now so i gona vote for them, i recently bough my first 3 albums ever by em British steel, Stained class and sad wings of destiny i love all 3 altough stained class is my favorite. Anyway normaly i whuld have whent with Black sabbath or Iron maiden i gues. Metallica and megadeth are great too and the rest i dont know or dont like. ------------- 
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 22:19
Aha, a metal n00b! Judging by those bands, I'd like to reccomend mercyful fate and candlemass off the list. Candlemass is heavily black sabbath influenced, and mercyful fate has a lot of iron maiden and judas priest in it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:39
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I've been meaning to check out Mercyful Fate....
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:39
King Crimson is undoubtedly heavier than anything listed here. Oh, and I forgot to say, I voted for Metallica. \m/ |
Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 07:55
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^BREAKING NEWS: KING CRIMSON WILL HEADLINE NEXT "GODS OF METAL"!! -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:00
WHAT???? KC?!!! This time I'm going, come hell or high water! Edit: As far as I know, KC was a joke  , but I am contemplating going all the same... MAIDEN AND PRIEST are headlining! |
Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:39
It was a joke, indeed, sorry!  (well, not so sorry, after all, I love playing jokes...)
The fact is that I can't stand people saying that non-metal bands are more metal than metal bands just because of two or three overdriven power chords. I love High Tide and 1970s King Crimson, but I know quite well what Heavy Metal is. -------------
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:48
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Iron Maiden ------------- 
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 14:37
Yeah, King Crimson does have some metal moments (the vroom EP, red the song, LTIA 2, fractured's ending), but I totally agre with you that they aren't really metal and also that they aren't really heavier then all the bands on this list. I mean, king crimson heavier than slayer, suffocation, or massacra? I don't think so! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 16:20
 Exactly.... Whenever I hear Incantation, Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, I always trhink of Fripp and his big influence on their sound... "Discipline" is actually the closets to true death-metal you will ever find.... (in that it's DEAD... as BORING...my opinion of course)...
Actually, sometimes names ring true. You know Metallica? Hear "the thing that should not be" and tell me they are not the heaviest thing that was around... such a slow, pounding, heavy riff....
Oh, wait... probably they were influenced by King Crimson.... -------------
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:35
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When I listen to Bathory, Venom, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Helloween I definitely hear King Crimson. I hear even more King Crimson influences in Septic Flesh, On Thorns I Lay, old Darkthrone, Sentenced, and definitely Old Funeral. But then again, Old Funeral were just a bunch of King Crimson wannabes as we all know that Abbath and Varg are major Robert Fripp fanboys. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 08:59
Hmm, I hear it in 2 of those bands you listed. I must be deaf  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: Hat of Truth
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 13:36
| Deep Purple. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 14:00
When I listen to Hillary Duff, I hear a lot of King Crimson....
It's my word after all. How can anyone prove me wrong?
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 17:39
Hey dipsh*t, I said heavier, not more metal. Metal is pussy compared to Crimson. |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 19:37
Define heavy, because I don't know that anyone else thinks that king crimson is heavier then most of these bands. I absolutly adore king crimson, but I don't hear this bone-crunching heavyness, even listening to thrak. You must have a different idea of heavy then me, because metal definitely is not pussy compared to king crimson. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 20:27
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ONLY TWO VOTES FOR METALLICA??!! Im shocked and appalled and am going to immedietly rectify this depressing situation. THREE VOTES! seriously, up to (and kinda sorta maybe but not really including) the Black Album metallica kicked MAJOR a**. And justice for all still reigns on high as one of my all time fav. metal albums. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:18
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My vote goes to Metallica, though Judas Priest gets an honorable mention. I enjoyed Black Sabbath when I was in high school (class of '71), but, let's be realistic, as musicians they are lame. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:24
| ^^ Iommi, dude. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:31
Red. Heaviness is more than chug chug chug. Let me give an example, Fallen Angel, a ballad, is heavier than any metal song. Maybe you see what I mean by heavy now; the title track is of course even heavier, but still.
Yes it is. Metal is pussy because metal bands think that heaviness is chug chug chug. |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 03:09
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Metalcore bands do tend to use palm-mutes and *gag* breakdowns as a crutch. But let's listen to Darkthrone's first album (old school death metal) and Old Funeral's "The Older Ones". Both of those albums are heavy as hell and have next to no palm-muting. It's all in the production and guitar tone, really. It's also more of a sustained thing than a gimmicky mosh thing.
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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 23:17
Okay, red is very gritty, and sounds like good grunge before grunge. But grunginess is like a different sort of heavyness. Anyways, what makes you think metal is all about chug chug? The majority of the bands on this list more rely on fast machine gunnish riffs, not chugs. Listen to the first track off of human by death (flattening of emotions). You barely hear any chug whatsoever. Instead of a chug, you hear sextuplets, mostly. Better yet, try angel of death by slayer. Chugging is mostly mediocre metal bands, or else very innovative ones. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 23:51
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not to go off topic.. but why not... ^ never understood the whole grunge thing with Red.. the two standout tracks... Starless.. One Red Nightmare... grunge?? bullsh*t... what am I missing that others see.. or is it simply because Cobain is associated with the album because he liked the album. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 15:11
You mean it doesn't sound grungy at all to you? Seriously? You must have been born with poor grunginess detectors. I feel bad for you How can you live without being able to associate obscure bands with grunge music? If you ever need help, I'm there for you...------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 15:15
hahhaha... OUCH!!!!!! My grunge detector has gone bad... probably from listening to true grunge gems like this not the sh*t MTV was pushing hahhahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 23:02
Just like metal destroyed my heaviness detectors! Seriously, people will play linkin park and start moshing, and I just laugh. At the same time, it drives a stake of fear through the hearts of christian mothers by the thousand. "DEVILS MUSIC" they say, I lol... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Seabury">
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 23:58
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^Linkin Park? Oh that brings back memories of when i was 12 in 2001, when everyone was a fan but me. The musicianship was fantastic, the guitars blistering, the drums with crazy polyrhythms, those cool 6 string bass arpeggios. Oh wait, that sounds more like a good band, sorry. Oh, imagine Dave Mustaine in a room with the Linkin guys............................
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Posted By: EnglishAssassin
Date Posted: January 26 2008 at 06:18
| ... kicking the sh*t out of them? |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 26 2008 at 13:15
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One would hope so, that Dave uses his Tae-Kwondo abilities to the best of his ability. Dave is among my favourite Metal riff writers. Rust In Peace was is, IMHO, the best Thrash metal album ever. -------------
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