Classic prog bands - who's most diverse?
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Topic: Classic prog bands - who's most diverse?
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Classic prog bands - who's most diverse?
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 10:30
Hope the question is clear?
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 11:01
Aeternus wrote:
Hope the question is clear?
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Well, the answer certainly is!
JETHRO TULL, of course.
(By which I do not mean they're the greatest band.)
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Posted By: Tasartir
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 11:45
I voted VDGG mostly for the heck of it. I know King Crimson is pretty diverse but VDGG did Jazz, Fusion, Latin, Rock, Symphonic, so they're pretty high up there with KC.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:13
Tasartir wrote:
I voted VDGG mostly for the heck of it. I know King Crimson is pretty diverse but VDGG did Jazz, Fusion, Latin, Rock, Symphonic, so they're pretty high up there with KC. |
Yes, but VDGG found one way of doing music and followed that path with pretty much all their songs (excellently I might add). King Crimson wins this one, there is no doubt
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Posted By: proglil49
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:18
King Crimson is the most diverse. Pobably not the best, though.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:26
Tull by a mile. Blues, prog folk, prog metal amongst others - not all with great success (Crest of a Knave!!) but usually so.
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:33
King Crimson is easily the most diverse band possibly of all time. VDGG is also extremely diverse...but not as much as their tough opponent.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:46
King Crimson and Van der Graaf Generator equally. I gave my vote to VdGG because KC already have enough. they are the predominant examples for the "eclectic" category. a kind of "trademark" of VdGG seems to be that they often ironically incorporate the music of different dance styles (cha cha, fandango, waltz, bossa nova) into their music. by the way, VdGG are by far more an ironic band than many realize; their lyrics are very rarely to be taken straightforward, but with a grain of salt and tongue-in-cheek instead. and this definitely reflects in their music too
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 12:54
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 16:27
van der graaf! periodically, they're not really diverse. but musically, the more diverse out of the lot i think. them, then crimson.
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 16:58
GG should be on the poll, they're a close second to KC
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 17:51
After creating the poll, I noticed that I have forgot to mention Gentle Giant...
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Posted By: MusicalSalmacis
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 23:23
Where's GG? I think they are also very diverse
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Posted By: ES335
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 00:46
I voted for Yes. I understand the logic behind KC but I think Yes does a lot of diverse things in subtle ways, such as the Simon and Garfunkel and Beach Boys influences on the Yes Album and the world music stuff on TFTO. Also, it seems like a lot of the KC diversity comes from line-up changes. While Yes isn't exactly the picture of stability either, they do have a stable core, and the Anderson/Howe/Squire/Wakeman/White line-up has been the predominant line-up other than the Drama and the 80's pop tangent. KC seems to be Bobo and whoever he decides to play with that year. That said, it was a close call, and I do have a great deal of respect for Fripp's guitar innovations.
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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 17:39
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 18:30
KC, GG, VDGG, JT
All very diverse throughout their respective discogs.
Doesn't seem to matter how I vote though.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 12:13
Man With Hat wrote:
KC, GG, VDGG, JT
All very diverse throughout their respective discogs.
Doesn't seem to matter how I vote though. |
Agree, thos 4 are the most diverse, my vote goes to VdGG they are my favorite after all. Some peopel i have seen, say all thire album sound the same i say lisen to "The least we can do.." and right after put on "World Record" then you can try come and say they sound the same. Imo no Vdgg album sound the same as the other one.
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 18:08
the question is clear and also the winner of this poll I think
this is not lack of personality, but I choose King Crimson (quite obvious poll)
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 03:44
Jethro Tull, imho. they were VERY diverse in their work, but they were always keeping their basicly and the unique style, that is what i like and respect, so i voted for them. for example, King Crimson is the great band, no question, but if you give to listen to somebody who never heard them before, no one song by them,(this is one "hypothesis" only, of course!) to hear, lets say, "Lizard" album, and after that to listen "Lark´s Tongue In Aspic"album, or "Discipline" album, i think that person will be sure that were two albums released from two absolutely different bands. although all KC albums are awesome, probably KC were diverse too much, IMHO, if you look from present day´s distance.
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 03:53
King Crimson, the definition of eclecticism.
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 03:58
Avantgardehead wrote:
King Crimson, the definition of eclecticism. |
yea, or the "brand name" definition.
(i´m just kidding, no bad feelings. )
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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 08:45
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 11:44
I'm with Jethro Tull.
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Posted By: LARKSTONGUE
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:12
Crimso. BIG DUH.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 14:27
most diverse.... eclectic... sh*t... that is a no brainer...
Jethro Tull
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 16:19
hey, lets hear all GonG stuff! that (AWESOME) band are not on the list but doesnt metter; where is that link, for example, from 'Angel´s Egg', to 'Expresso 11' - this INSTRUMENTAL, JAZZ album? please tell me coz i´m stupid one. Gong were more diverse than KC, for example. one band should be diverse as Jethro Tull as well, not Fripp´s the brand name of "King Crimson", (or Gong, or VDGG), although i like ALL these King Crimson´s albums.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 16:42
On the face of it Floyd don't do as badly in the diversification stakes as this poll would indicate having done Pop, Psychedelic, Space Rock, Symphonic, Folk, Folk Rock, Ethereal, Electronic, Eclectic, Heavy Rock, Hard Rock, Blues, Jazz-Rock, Football Anthem, Art Rock, Avant-Garde, AOR, Classic Rock... Crimson don't even come close as far as I'm concerned, but I'm biased.
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 16:42
Most diverse, Jethro Tull.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 16:43
King Crimson.
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Posted By: emkogceo
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 23:21
For the life of me, I can't see why everyone is saying King Crimson. Maybe if you look at KC's entire career, they're pretty diverse, but on most albums, they're not. King Crimson have:
1969-1974 heavy, moderately dissonant, guitar-based, mostly instrumental tracks (LTIA pt 2, Red, Fracture, etc.) mellotron-based symphonic stuff (Epitaph, Starless, etc.) joke songs (Happy Family, Great Deceiver, Cat Food) folk-based rock songs (I talk to the Wind, Exiles, The Night Watch, Fallen Angel) hard rock songs (21CSM, Easy Money, Lament, One More Red Nightmare) improvs (Moonchild, Devil's Triangle, Talking Drum, SABB, Providence)
Virtually every album from this period is just a mixture of these styles. If you've heard the first album, are there really any surprises on the next 3? Maybe a few, but not many. If you've heard LTIA (the album), are there any surprises on the next 2? Even fewer.
1981-now dense counterpointish guitar-based tracks improvs Belew ballads occasional joke songs occasional forays into atmospheric stuff
Again, virtually every album from this period is just a mixture of these styles.
That pretty much covers it. And so many of their songs are just slightly different from stuff they'd already done- 21CSM vs. Pictures of a City, Epitaph vs. In the Court vs. Poseidon, LTIA2 vs. Fracture vs. Red vs. Vroom.
Plus Fripp uses those freaking diminished fifths all the time.
So ELP is getting no votes- but just on one album (Trilogy), look what there is:
The Endless Enigma- minimalism, power rock song, fast classical stuff Hoedown- cheesy classical stuff From the Beginning- folk rock Abaddon's Bolero- repetitive symphonic march Trilogy- swoony melodramatic intro, bizarre middle section, humorous ending The Sheriff- honky tonk joke song Living Sin- Zeppelinish hard rock
Almost every single song is a completely different style from the rest. Whereas KC only ever covered 2 or 3 styles per album.
Not saying KC wasn't diverse, just surprised they're so far ahead here.
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 04:07
Crimson, with their schizophrenic musical personality and constantly shifting lineups, is the obvious first choice here. The interesting question would be who should come in second. Probably Tull or ELP....
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Posted By: cacha71
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 17:01
Jethro Tull, mainly because they have experimented with a variety of different styles from blues to folk to hard rock.
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Posted By: Urs Blank
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 10:29
King Crimson, though Jethro Tull also searched in many musical directions.
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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 10:33
Jethro Tull, even though I don't like them
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 16:36
I think Jethro Tull is quite diverse but still their diversity isn't good but Crimson's yes.
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