Zs - Arms
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Topic: Zs - Arms
Posted By: avestin
Subject: Zs - Arms
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 18:10
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3401 - ZS - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438 - Arms
To categorise these guys is about as difficult as the music they play. ZS’s music could be considered as a combination between Avant-Garde/Free Jazz and Math Rock, only with a clearly tidy and structured vibe to it. In addition, their music is also extremely dynamic but also repetetive and requires patience as the music can get frustratingly intense at times, but it’s all very energetic and fun to listen to. Their songs are loaded with odd meters and time-signatures and several “start-stop-start” sections are present and plays a significant role in their overall sound, something that could compare them to several bands labeled as Math-Rock. The melodies are often odd, dissonant and unpredictable with heavy minimalistic elements while also being tightly arranged. Stylistically they are looseley akin to Keith Tippett projects, such as Ovary Lodge and Centipede (minus the piano) and the sax playing at times has the stylistics of Elton Dean (from Soft Machine). The minimalistic tendencies are obviously reminiscent of Ennio Morricone and Philip Glass, but often with the more rock-orientated form of minimalism played by Third-era Soft Machine. The band currently consists of Charlie Looker (synthesizer/guitar), Ben Greenberg (guitar), Sam Hillmer (saxophone), and Ian Antonio (drums) although the group have gone through several line-up changes since their formation in 2000. This band is absolutely recommended if you like wacky and both technical and challenging music. Especially for fans of bands like Orthrelm, Ruins and Hella. They are not easy listening by any means but they are absolutely worth checking out if you are into stuff like this, although it may take some time to digest their releases properly.
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Listen to them here:
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http://www.myspace.com/zstheband - http://www.myspace.com/zstheband
Reviews of Arms:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438"> RIO/Avant-Prog (Studio Album, 2007) Avg: 3.50/5 from 2 ratings
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438 - ZS — Arms Review by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=10545 - Zappa88 (Chris Henne) Prog Reviewer
The maxi-minimalists?
Zs is a band that was formed in 2000 in New York, in the heart of the brutal chamber scene. However, one would challenge themselves day and night trying to name a genre that fits the style these guys play. One listen to this album and you will say they play one style, then listen to it again and you will say a different one. There is just no way to peg one single genre onto this album. It's too ugly and raw for jazz music, too complicated for minimalist music however too simple to be called avant-garde.
Arms is the first full-length studio album from this band, following up on two successful EP's and predating a live release, both recorded last year in 2007. If you are reading this review because you are looking for something that resembles music, I warn you to turn back now. Zs is not a band that plays music, Zs is a band that records art. Vocals are used sparingly, but they create a deep impact on the album, especially the chanting in Except When You Don't Because You Wont. Combined with the beating percussions, this piece could almost put you in a trance-like state. Also the vocals on I Can't Concentrate really sky-rocket the song itself and the album to a whole new level.
From the opening saxophone explosion of B Is For Burning, to the last shake of the tambourine on Z Is For The Zone, there is no let up on this album. Although sometimes the music may quiet down or shift itself, the thrills keep coming back. One mistake I do think that Zs might have made in their debut is the length of the album. They do a great job playing their repetitive, trance inducing music throughout the duration of the album, but towards the end the listener will tend to settle back into their seat rather than still be on the edge. Music like this needs to be full-out for a certain length and then stop without rest.
All in all, a very strong debut and one of the best in 2007. Work on those endings and the next Zs studio album will most likely be a winner!
Posted Tuesday, January 01, 2008, 15:27 EST http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=157380 - Review Permanent link | http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438#postAReview - Submit a review for this album
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438"> RIO/Avant-Prog (Studio Album, 2007) Avg: 3.50/5 from 2 ratings
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17438 - ZS — Arms Review by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=5206 - chamberry (Ruben Dario) Special Collaborator Psych Prog, Post & Math RockTeams
Calling this cerebral is an understatement.
Earlier this year, around summer, when I was discovering highly convoluted and elaborate music, I stumbled upon a band that was simply named “Zs”. I remember reading an article about a little musical movement called “brutal prog” where bands like Upsilon Acrux, The Flying Luttenbachers and even Orthrelm are part of, or so the author of the article claims. Zs was the band labeled as “brutal chamber” and being a fan of this kind of music I didn’t hesitated to check them out. The music does remind me of the previously mentioned bands so this is recommended for fans of this kind of music, especially fans of Orthrelm’s Ov.
Zs’ music takes parts of minimalism, chamber music, rock, jazz and mesh it to sound as ugly and dissonant as possible! This leaves no room for emotions so I hope that that isn’t a problem. The music is repetitive and angular with disjointed and awkward sounding melodies wrapped with start / stop dynamics in every single moment of the album. Vocals aren’t present on this album but in one song, “Nobody Wants To Be Had” which is one of the album’s peak moments particularly because of its odd singing and even odder topic. This song in particular is the one that attracted me the most from them since it’s the most easily rewarding song on the album as well as being a good representation of their sound. The only song that can top this one is “I Can’t Concentrate” with its math rock-like song structure and long running time. Balk is an interesting song, it isn’t as engaging as the ones before and after it, but the main melody is almost exactly the same as Faust’s song called “So Far”. This hasn’t been affirmed by the members of Zs and it’s only a little observation of mine so ignore it at will.
Zs’ music is inaccessible and hard to grasp. Newcomers should keep away from this band, but Veterans should check Zs’ as soon as possible. Arms is an elaborate and intriguing album that Avant-garde music fans will highly enjoy. The only problem here is “Z is for Zone” which isn’t up to par with the rest of the material on the album and overstays its welcome, but this is still an enjoyable album.
3.5 out of 5
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 20:48
Thanks for using my review Assaf
But seriously folks, this would be a great time to just forget about Porcupine Tree's release, or Rush's or Dream Theater's. Give a different band a chance because you never know what you may find. Look around for some gems, you may find one as good as this. In my top 10 for 2007
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 11:13
I'm quite skeptical about recommending this band to a wider prog audience since it isn't something that many people will find enjoyable, but for those with an adventurous music taste and a knack for tight musicianship without any showmanship should check out Zs' Arms.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 11:45
chamberry wrote:
I'm quite skeptical about recommending this band to a wider prog audience since it isn't something that many people will find enjoyable, but for those with an adventurous music taste and a knack for tight musicianship without any showmanship should check out Zs' Arms.
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You're right about your first part of the post. But going by the spirit of a certain saying we have in Hebrew, if even one person finds this intriguing enough to go on and listen and then finds he likes it, then it's all worth it
Actually, I think Zs might be more "easy to digest" than say Upsilon Acrux or Yowie... I find Arms to be a refreshing wind of avant rock...
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 11:54
chamberry wrote:
I'm quite skeptical about recommending this band to a wider prog audience since it isn't something that many people will find enjoyable, but for those with an adventurous music taste and a knack for tight musicianship without any showmanship should check out Zs' Arms.
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But it really is one of those things that you would never know that you like until you try it. I would actually recommend stuff like this to people that have never heard this kind of style before because it's a breath of fresh air.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 18:24
But you're not going to eat unless you're hungry.
I agree with both replies. I'm just more cautious recommending these sort of things to a wide public after receiving some negative comments from some. I know that it's normal for it to happen, but they still pull me down. Also there's not a lot of people here that try out new things.
Yeah, I'm kind of bummed out by these things...
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 18:58
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 19:21
I've said all that's on my mind
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 19:22
I bought Zs-Zs awhile ago.
Should listen to it again soon.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 19:26
Zappa88 wrote:
I've said all that's on my mind |
You've done your "duty". I want more people to see this, that's all...
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 19:36
Dammit... I got this album a while ago last year. It's a really great album and I definitely recommend it. I also recommend their Live album that was released last year as well.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 22:37
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Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 11:07
This is one of my favorite modern avant-rock bands. Zs, Karate Bump, Buck and Arms are all fantastic (and I've reviewed them all at Ground & Sky).
Mind-bending stuff and highly recommended. That's all I have to say.
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Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 11:08
Oh, except one more thing: they are FREAKIN AMAZING live. It's a shame that one of their guitarists left the band recently, but they've survived some pretty dramatic lineup changes in the past so I have no doubt they'll continue making incredible music and playing it live to incredulous (if tiny) audiences.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:15
progreviews wrote:
...(and I've reviewed them all at Ground & Sky)... |
I actually discovered them AND suggested them for addition thanks to your review! So keep those reviews coming.
You have a devoted reader here.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:50
chamberry wrote:
You have a devoted reader here.
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+1
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