Britanny Spears vs Nirvana
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Topic: Britanny Spears vs Nirvana
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Britanny Spears vs Nirvana
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 13:23
| Hmmm.... I think Nirvana are highly underrated. I'm voting for them. Plus, unlike Britanny, Curt can play guitar... |
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Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 13:27
Erm... I hate to break this to ya, but Kurt hasn't been able to play the guitar for almots 14 years. It's not easy to be a musician when you're dead.  ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Aeternus wrote:Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 13:39
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Nirvana can't compete with Brit's latest progressive epic, "Gimme More", and it's profound lyrics that would make even Peter Hammill bow his head in praise: "Gimme gimme more, gimme more, gimme gimme more" <Repeat ad nauseum> |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 14:03
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As a companion (like being stuck on a deserted island with) I have to choose BS because she's a girl. Or a woman. Whatever. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 14:26
Even though he's dead? That's quite a feat. I guess put it this way, Cobain plays better guitar dead than Brittney does alive. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 15:03
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mmm, seriously, there's no comparison. This poll is ridiculous.
And anyway, even as a companion I think Britney (not BRITANNY, that attempt to show you despise her is hundred years old...) loses the poll... did you see what happened to her last night? She had to be strapped down to a gurney... at least Cobain commit a classy suicide, not in front of the whole world.... ------------- 
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 15:16
Suicide? Come on, man! Everyone knows Courtney Love pulled the trigger! ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 15:37
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You lot should read "Who Killed Kurt Cobain?", pretty interesting book and if half the things in it are true then I doubt he did shoot himself. Im not a fan, though I used to be.. It's still a good book |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:07
If you, the topic starter, think this poll is funny, you'd better ask Courtney to do with your humour the same thing she did to her husband 
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:28
Yeah but Britney is a better role model
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:29
hahhahahha... can't argue with that ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 16:43
Good gravy! 14 years! I feel old now... ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 04:44
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One of my friend's is a huge conspiracy theorist and always spouts off the "OMG liek Kurt couldn't shoot himself with a shotgun!!!!" despite the fact that Dead from Mayhem committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head (the aftermath of which can be seen on the cover art for the album "Dawn of the Black Hearts")...
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 05:08
| Possibly sillier than than the John Petrucci Vs God poll, except that at least had a really talented person that you could pick. The mind boggles as to whether Britney or Kurt were any better than each other, both appalling IMO. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 06:56
I heard he was aiming for Courtney but she ran behind him. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 17:28
She did to her husband a lot of things lol...  |
Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 20:04
Who is Britney Spears 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 20:24
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^ that's a question the poor girl is probably asking herself right now. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 20:29
Maybe it's all a ploy... darqdean, remember the "Paul McCartney is dead" thing ? . |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 21:17
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Who cares who killed Kurt? He died after a few mediocre CDs loved by middle-school "punks," solidifying his legacy as a guitarist good enough to get a freakin decent spot on RollingStone's top guitarists list. And that's all that really matters, anyway. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 00:12
And now in Guitar Centers across America, you can hear 13-year-old boys playing garbled renditions of various Nirvana songs and thinking that they're cool. 
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Posted By: Exodizer
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 02:35
Umm no He can't, but this is like asking The Monkeys or The Trashmen. Sure I'm no Monkeys fan but it's way better than the alternative. How in the world could be Nirvanna be underrated. Kurt Cobain is still used as the quintiesstial rockstar (I mean people still say things like he's not Cobain or will ask you You wanna be like Cobain eh?) and it's closing in on 15 years ago.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 04:06
Hey, don't knock the Monkees, I was a huge fan growing up and now that I'm all grown up, I am a proud zombie prog pod person. 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 04:09
Actually Nirvana wasn't that bad. I actually like and respect them and Cobain a lot more these days than I did when he was alive at which time I thought they were crap. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 09:32
An older man must be wiser...  |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 13:49
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Nirvana?
Underrated?!
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Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 10:45
Here, Here too bad that option wasn't provided in the vote. . |
Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 10:50
Exactly... both of 'em are / were a couple of entertainment industry losers. . |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 11:03
That's the spirit! |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 12:20
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they both drive me mad. http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Britney_spears - http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Britney_spears
that says it all bout britney. you only have to listen to nirvana to see why i hate them. crap guitar playing, basic unimpressive bass, stiff drumming... it makes me sick to think that these talentless beings are more famous than most of the bands on PA. it is a cruel world we live in... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 16:27
Great post. |
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 18:14
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I am sick of people giving Nirvana so much grief. So what if they weren't the worlds greatest musicians? Kurt Cobaine learnt to use his guitar as a very effective tool in his songwriting. I'd much rather listen to someone properly utilise his instrument in this way than listen to Petrucci shred through endless solos on obscure scales he learnt in musical college. And not to mention his great voice and songwriting skills. He wrote powerful music, based on valid observations, which spoke to millions of people. Kurt Cobaine was unique. Just check out all these piss-poor 'grunge' acts that have come out since Nirvana. Very few can do what Kurt Cobaine did.
Also, no offence guys, but I bet he's a hell of a better guitarist than most guitarists who hang around on music forums such as this, pretending to be some sort of musical genius. I don't think he ever exactly stretches his guitar-playing abilities with his songs.
And kibble_alex, if your so willing to dismiss them as 'talentless beings', then I challenge you to write a better song than 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' using just 4 power chords. It's very difficult. ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 22:44
Except for the Petrucci part, this is really a GREAT post....
 Some people really think that genius=how many scales and chords and harmonic weirdness you can get in a song....
Well, prog is called pretentious music after all... guess we fans have done everyhting in our power to earn that....
You know that art is also about expression?
Dou you know how much does a CAN song expresses to me in the way of, well, human feelings?
Exactly.
Those of you who can get any feeling out of the most "genius" music, oh well, pat yourselves in the back... you're geniuses after all...
So what... in the end, Cobain, who I agree is not God or anything but a very talented guy, changed many things....
CAN? ..... they're great forum-discussion material....
(I prefer prog by the way.. I just can't stand this stupid displays of "progressive" arrogance, as I said, because I used to be an idiot, too...... In the end: the bad thing is not to have been an idiot, but to continue to be one..) -------------
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: January 07 2008 at 22:54
Britney will always be my goddess.............i love her!!! so damn hot gorgeous n' SEXY!!!!! always.........
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 01:21
Do you feel better now? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 01:31
Now that we've got reasonable support for Kurt...who's gonna defend Britney? .... Any takers...? (and I'm talking about her music, not her music videos with the sound turned off [...that I enjoyed in 7th grade...]) |
Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 01:49
Come on now, people kill themselves all the time. Maybe not always with a shotgun, but still.
Typical inflammatory statement.
Erik Satie wrote three songs that each utilize only four chords (although in Gymnopedie No. 1 the first two chords were amazing enough). So songs with four chords (or even less) really aren't that special. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 03:43
Come on now, people kill themselves all the time. Maybe not always with a shotgun, but still. Avantegardehead, that was a genius response
actually one of the funniest things i have read on Progarchives Defenders of Britney's music? Well, it wasn't as doom and glood as nirvana, about the only positive
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 08 2008 at 11:39
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Well, first of all, I like a guitarist for his spirit. Then the skill comes. What's better if there are spirit and skill combined? And what's worse when there's no spirit neither skill? I really find Nirvana very very boring. Sincerely, although both are musical failures, if I had no other chance than choose between these to, I would go with Britney. |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 00:06
Spot On
Kurt was IMO, horribly uninspiring, and the fact the whole Grunge genre came close to killing the sort of virtuoso music many of us love, i have nothing but disdain for him. Grunge claimed virtuosic guitar solos were simply means of showing off and the virtuosos are pretentious. But anyone who is a fan of Joe Satriani And John Petrucci and has read any of interviews of them can tell you how humble they are, and truly appreciate their selfless contributions to the guitar and music world. And their ability to express what they want with the guitar, they have so much more emotions to express than kurt ever could, simply because John and Joe know more about music and technique and can use that to their conisderable advantage
 And yeah, why not pick britney over kurt if i had no choice? At least she's in new papers still making a fool of herself for our entertainment
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 19:07
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Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 12:56
Esattamente  Perfect description... perfect Commercial success does NOT = musical genius. Contemporary popularity does NOT = musical genius. Critical acclaim does NOT = musical genius (read: Rolling Stone Mag Sucks). . |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 18:56
for your info, i find teen spirit very overated and short lived in my music collection. It's dull and boring, and by the way, i have written better songs. but with more chords. minimalism sucks, why play four chords with a reasonable tune (teen spirit) when you can create an all time classic of a song with many chords and vocal lines (Mr Blue Sky)? It's appalling. I'd love to get all the remaining members of Nirvana, all of greenday, blink 182 and any other band that thinks theyre clever with their powerchord dictionary into a room and repeat that one scene out of Ghost Ship. You know, the one where theyre all dancing and a long Black & Decker Scorpion saw slices them in half? Ah, the thought of it makes me cry with joy... sorry to be really macabre, heartless and sinister, but it has to be said. You're PROGGERS for christ sake! you strive for sophisticated rock music, not that dumb sh*t that dominates three quarters of Kerrang nowadays! Jesus, put on some Van Der Graaf or Floyd or Dream Theatre or Porcupine Tree or Genesis or Crimson or something like that! |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 22:16
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for your info, i find teen spirit very overated and short lived in my music collection. It's dull and boring, and by the way, i have written better songs. but with more chords. minimalism sucks, why play four chords with a reasonable tune (teen spirit) when you can create an all time classic of a song with many chords and vocal lines (Mr Blue Sky)? It's appalling. I'd love to get all the remaining members of Nirvana, all of greenday, blink 182 and any other band that thinks theyre clever with their powerchord dictionary into a room and repeat that one scene out of Ghost Ship. You know, the one where theyre all dancing and a long Black & Decker Scorpion saw slices them in half? Ah, the thought of it makes me cry with joy... sorry to be really macabre, heartless and sinister, but it has to be said. You're PROGGERS for christ sake! you strive for sophisticated rock music, not that dumb sh*t that dominates three quarters of Kerrang nowadays! Jesus, put on some Van Der Graaf or Floyd or Dream Theatre or Porcupine Tree or Genesis or Crimson or something like that![/QUOTE] While i can agree with some of that, like nirvana being ovely simplistic and not particularly emotive music at all, to say that minimalism sucks, particularly on a website like this, is a bit too much IMO. Think about the fact there are many Prog bands, in which minimalism is at the core of their sound, but what sets these prog bands that have a minimalist nature, is that they apply their minimalism in a complex and challenging way. For guitarists out there, check out Buckethead's song, Soothsayer. It is for the most part, a four chord song that goes for just over 9mins, yet displays his incredible virtuosity and power to emote through the electric guitar. Chances are, many people would be so blown away by the playing on that song, his ability to have written such amazing guitar parts over 4 power chords, they wouldn't change a thing on that song. Minimalistc song structure, with absolutely mind blowing virtuosity and true feeling and soul, and im sure there are many others out there that have done exactly the same to great effect.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 22:46
Let's rephrase:
Commercial failure does NOT = musical genius (many "obscure" band SUCK)
Contemporary obscurity does NOT = musical genius. (again, many "obscure" bands SUCK) Critical disdain does NOT = musical genius (many commercial bands have also been good bands..) (I agree on the Roll. Ston. mag thing though.... but NOT because they liked Nirvana, but because they're supposed to be a rock mag and they feauture hip hop artists and other things). At the same time:
commercial success means millions of "idiots" love the music, even intellectual "idiots" (as was the case with grunge), so maybe it's a case of... universal stupidity?
By the way: it's BRITNEY.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 12:16
i see where you are coming from, but but if buckethead is playing some face melting guitar, then that really isn't minimalism.And although some prog bands thrive over minimalism (King Crimson - Starless), they bring dynamic and interesting things within the music. Nirvana just play four chords throughout the whole of Teen Spirit, and nothing interesting happens! I take back the fact that minimalism generally sucks. It only sucks when used improperly, like some bands. And the fact that they use that kind of "songwriting" throughout the whole of their career? Pfft! makes me sick! |