The Legend of Zelda (sans Ocarina)
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Topic: The Legend of Zelda (sans Ocarina)
Posted By: Dim
Subject: The Legend of Zelda (sans Ocarina)
Date Posted: December 26 2007 at 00:07
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First off...
Ocarina of Time is simply the greatest video game in the history of gaming.
Therefore, I chose not to put that one on.
So, I just borrowed Twilight princess from my homeslice, just to keep my loyalty to the game, and I'm quite liking it, 3rd best IMO, a step below The windwaker.
A link in the past is a pre gaming revolution classic, four sword legend was kind of a salute to it, but was pretty much the joke of the gaming world that year. Majoras mask was very disapointing to me, no Hyrule, no Zelda, and a scary looking moon man. The Windwaker is my second favirote, hated ny many fans, because of the graphics though, it's story line is almost as epic as ocarina.
Of course I havent finished twilight princess, but it kind of pissed me off when I had to fly all over hyrule to get the fused shadows, and then get it thrown away the very second you have them all.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 13:35
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First off, I AGREE 100% WITH YOUR OPINION ABOUT OCARINA. Now, I have played only two other Zeldas...
 A Link TO the Past is magnificent. As was The Windwaker.
Has there ever been a bad Zelda? (yes, there was a Zelda CD-I,  )------------- 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 13:49
Sadly I think that Twilight Princess was a big let-down. The game was too easy and very straightforward with only a handful of side-quests. The story was quite interesting though, and it was good to see a darker and more emotional Link. The only Zelda game that I deeply enjoyed after playing Ocarina of Time was Windwaker. That game was epic in the best sense of the word! The whole feel of the game was perfect and its only bested by Ocarina of Time. ------------- 
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The T wrote:Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 16:04
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Majora's Mask. In some ways I preferred it to OoT, it had more innovative and complex dungeons, a more interesting world, and I loved the 72 hour cycle. I never finished either of the gamecube Zeldas; Wind Waker got so boring towards the end, just sailing around collecting stuff, very linear and dull; and I just never got around to beating Twilight Princess, it was good but I'm not much a gamer these days... Link to the Past was good, I hardly remember it though. And the first Zelda game for NES was cool, a bit before my time but I've played it, never played the second which is apparently really difficult and a let-down from the first.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 27 2007 at 17:14
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Bluesaga, I'm with you, I'm not a gamer at all anymore, Zelda, and a couple games of Halo with my friends is the extent nowadays.
I like Twilight princess' Graphics ALOT, but your right Cham, it's easy. I havent died yet, the boss fights are too easy, and the dungeons arent... scary like how they are in ocarina.
You guys remeber how horrifying the last three temples in ocarina are, especially the water temple? -------------
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 28 2007 at 14:51
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Actually fellas, the Ice mansion on twilight is quite challenging, better than the other dungeons... so far. -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 19:07
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Majora is PWN. Windwaker is great, but the sailing gets tedious and the graphics make me cry. Twilight Princess felt too....forced. There were several items, like that magic wand that controlled statues and that gear thing that you rode on, that got used in one dungeon and that were then not useful EVER in the rest of the game. And at the end of the game, there were three straight dungeons with almost nothing in the overworld in between. Was there a single sidequest? I don't think there was. -------------   |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 22:51
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Good point, when you think about it, you didnt need to use the slingshot AT ALL.
I havent played for almost five days ow, I will later tonight after I watch the ball drop. -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 22:54
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Actually, now that I think about it, the sailing in Windwaker didn't really bother me. I always mute the music from games and blast my own, so I actually found the sailing to be somewhat relaxing. Don't get me wrong, Twilight Princess was great, but it fell far flat of the ludicrously high standard set by the previous three 3D Zelda games. You'd think they'd be able to put out something better considering how much f*cking time they spent on it. ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 22:59
Yeah unlike all the other games, you dont really have time to take in anything in the twilight princess, you always have to rush to the next temple, or find someone in a remote place. In pretty much all the other games, you get to scope out all the towns, check out the stores, and usually get a good sidequest. -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 23:01
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The other games all had a lot of room to BREATHE, some relaxation between the dark, harsh, and draining temples. In Twilight Princess, you were either in a temple or the dark, depressing twilight hunting down those damn bugs.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 23:10
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Prett mch, but thats how i felt in Majora, to a lesser extent though. With the constant pressure of a very angry moon right above you, giving you only 72 hours, and junk -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 23:27
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Yeah, but there were sidequests out the wazoo in Majora's. I could spend consecutive 72 hour periods in that game just doing sidequests if I didn't feel like diving into the next temple, and there were always interesting adventures between the temples. Twilight always lacked the former and often lacked the latter as well.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 23:53
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True, but there was something about Majora hat just seemed very uncool to me, maybe it was the four different knd of instruments in which you had to play the same thing on, or the fact that Link never really hits puberty. I like the darkness that Majora and Twilight keep from ocarina. Lets be serious though, the soundtrack to ocarina was terrifying! -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 31 2007 at 23:54
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The soundtrack of Ocarina was pretty scary, and it got to be pretty damn terrifying inside some of the adult-Link temples. I still remember the Forest Temple music (I haven't played the game un-muted in 3 or 4 years), and it still gives me the creeps.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:00
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Like I said in an earlier post The most terrifying temple was the water temple.
Next Zelda game soundtrack should have the most terrifying music of all time on it.
GG
Behold... the arctopus
Universe Zero
Pawn hearts
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:02
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I'm feelin' Zelda: RIO Edition with Samla and Stormy Six in the happy parts and Univers Zero and Art Zoyd in the temples.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:04
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I can just imagine replacing the fairies voice with a samla squeek.
Oh, and Captain beefheart for the boss fights!!!!! -------------
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:48
Twilight Princess is better than Ocarina. Ocarina was great when it came out, and still is, but the action is much better in Twilight. The Ocarina story was classic, like nothing ever before it, but Twilight just improved upon it in every way. Picture Twilight coming out in '98, people would have been like 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 08:53
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And then Ocarina would hit in 2006 and we'd never touch Twilight again. I've played Majora through two-and-a-half times and Ocarina through about a half-dozen times, but I wasn't even able to finish Twilight a second time. ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 01 2008 at 09:47
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Yeah, Twilight would have been a pretty big thing, but if ocarina would have come out any time rescetly, there would be revolution. -------------
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 00:45
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I've never played Ocarina. I really don't feel any need to. I never had an N64, I'm not going to buy one, and it makes me angry when people overrate things constantly. Metroid Prime the best shooter ever? Fat chance.
The only Zelda I've played were the 2 Oracles. They were pretty good, if rehashes of the same formula. Except Ages had a stupid bug that made me stuck in the endgame, so I haven't played it since. ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 13:40
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Which ever one of those was on the SNES- that was a sweet game
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 19:40
Oracle of Ages/Seasons weren't bad, but the 2D Zelda games are quite different from the 3D ones. And anyone who claims Metroid Prime is the greatest shooter ever loses all credibility as a person who knows things about video games. It was good, but hardly the best ever. Metroid Fusion, on the other hand, is one of my favorite side-scrollers ever. But that's a different matter. ------------- |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 19:40
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How about WORST Zelda game? My vote goes to Link II. WTF?!?! ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:09
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Mine=4sword legend
Jake, I'm stuck, I just beat the ice mansion, and I'm in the forest. I'm taken back to where the master sword is, I'v looked everywhere, even on top of that big wall with the vines, where do I go? -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:11
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So right now you're in the lost woods? You need to follow that damn monkey around until you finally beat him, and then you have a temple in which you get the master sword, if I remember correctly.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:13
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I got to be honest: I beat that mo-fo several months ago over the course of two weekends (yeah, I know...34 hours of a single video game over 4 days....), and as a result most of the specifics are lost on me. If I recall correctly, the temple with the Master Sword is the first of three where it's nothing but temple-temple-temple, with pretty much nothing in between.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:21
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No, you have the ice temple, forest temple, and the sky temple.
I already have the mastersword, and have beaten the ice temple, can you recall what to do? I picked up the damn golden chicken, fought the damn scarecrow guy, and now I'm back where the damn mastersword is. wheres my piece of the mirror? -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:54
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Ummm.... I forget.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 03 2008 at 21:56
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Bummer.
Well, now that I have been playing video games rescently, I'considering playing the elder scrols lll morrowing, should I? -------------
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 05 2008 at 14:00
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I got Ocarina about 6 years ago, and it was only a couple months ago that I even made it to the Shadow Temple. That music still scares me.
I couldn't play MM when I was smaller, because I'd end up going "HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT THIS GAME SO FAST??!!" and then I'd end up finding a nice place and waiting for my death from above.
I enjoyed the Wind Waker a lot. I haven't beaten it all the way, but I'm close. Link To The Past was good too, but not the epic masterpiece everyone makes it out to be.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: January 06 2008 at 18:21
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Ian, what happened to you hating video games with a passion? And NO! Don't get Morrowind, get Oblivion. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 23:18
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My computer refuses to be nice with video games, and I'm not getting a 360.
Like I said, I hate the fact some people actually spend a large portion of the day wasting away time playing video games, but a small game every once in a while wont kill anyone. -------------
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Posted By: Jshutt64
Date Posted: January 09 2008 at 23:48
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Agreed, Ocarina Of Time is the best game...ever. In the history of the world. After that though, my favorite is Majora's Mask. It's almost as fun as OOT, but...it just doesn't have the same replayability. I've only gone through it like 4 times, I've went through OOT at least 15.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 08:49
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Is anybody playing The Phantom Hourglass on the DS? That game is sweeeeeeeeeet.  -------------  |
Posted By: Poser
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:46
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First off, Zelda games are fab, mostly because of the music.
I'm a sucker for the Game Boy ones, maybe because that's what I grew up on, but they are completely different than the other ones...
Wind Waker is great though. The graphics are hilarious but not THAT horrible. Too much sailing, but my I'll vote for that.
Last time I checked, I was a little stuck in Ocarina. Also, I wish the stupid owl would just shut up. ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:56
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/\ press B, itll skip the whole conversation Ocarina was epic, and its music was some of the best music to ever come out of any video game I remember being genuinely terrified of the Forest, Spirit, and Shadow Temples f**king Wall Masters that's such a scary concept to a kid you're walking around and BAM giant hand from the sky lands on you and sucks you to oblivion (which leads to the entrance but still) oh and ReDeads *shudder* ------------- 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 19:19
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^Sun Song freezes up the ReDeads, then you just bomb em or slice em to pieces.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 20:40
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2608-Zero-Punctuation-Zelda-Phantom-Hourglass - This is all I have to say about that. ;-) ------------- "Never forget that the human race with technology is like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine." Sleepytime Gorilla Museum: Because in their hearts, everyone secretly loves the Unabomber. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 21:47
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I did the Forest Temple when I was smaller, and it was pretty creepy. Then, I walked into a room and Navi told me "There's a monster that lives on the ceiling."
Wait, what? There's a monster on the ceiling? It took so much courage to run out of the doorway of that room. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 21:53
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The Shadow Temple was the one that really got to me. That was CREEPY, with all the invisible guillotines and spiders and fake walls and stuff.
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:06
| I did the Bottom of the Well a couple months ago. I walked into the Shadow Temple, heard the music, and promptly saved and quit. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:27
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The Shadow Temple is like the Bottom of the Well only creepier and twice as long. The boss was really really easy, but I guess the Biggoron Sword kinda does that to things. ------------- |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:30
| I stopped doing temples after I got stuck in the Fire Temple and just did every side quest I could. I found so much to do in that game, even if I wasn't doing anything story-related. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:35
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That's one of my favorite aspects of it. You can always find a horse race or a mask trade or some poes to catch or a sword to acquire when you get bored. Twilight Princess really, really, REALLY lacked in the sidequest department. As far as I can tell, the only "sidequest" was donating a total of 1000 rupees to some goron so that he could open up a shop.
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:37
| It didn't even need to be a sidequest. I could make my own fun, whether it was exploring, roleplaying, cliffdiving... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:38
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Yeah, I would do stuff like that too. Open-ended gameplay, back before the term was raped to just mean that a game has two different endings.
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:43
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I enjoy Oblivion and I must've logged 150 hours on one character (while only beating one questline). But I know what you mean.
Even in The WInd Waker I had fun doing the same stuff as in OOT. Too bad 90% was water. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:45
I played that whole game with the sound muted and my own music blasting. Sailing wasn't so bad when it was to De Futura. ------------- |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:48
| I just didn't like the fact that there was so little area for you to run around in. It was all good, though. I've held off on listening to music in video games because I'm afraid I might miss sound cues or something. I remember once I was playing OOT muted and some random Guay flew OUT OF FREAKING NOWHERE and scared the living hell out of me. Lon Lon Ranch at night = bad idea. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:59
Use the Sun Song you nub! ------------- |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 10 2008 at 23:01
I was just exploring! Seriously, I don't think I've ever had a fair fight with a ReDead. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 16:56
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Have you guys ever played The Minish Cap on GBA? ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 18:04
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Jody, it's not cool to play handhelds anymore. -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 18:07
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Minish Cap was good, about as good as the 2D ones get. And while it may not be cool to actually whip out the GBA anymore, it's still pretty cool to emulate (but only games that you own or else it's illegal). ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 18:31
My kids and their friends hog the Wii and the PS3 most of the day.
So if I don't want to play them or my 360,I play DS or PSP. ------------- |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 20:19
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Haha, I can just picture Jody in Tool t-shirt, sleeves rolled all the way up to show the tats, and black metal blasting in the background, cradling his DS as he enjoys a few hours of Phantom Hourglass in all its cell-shaded glory.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 11 2008 at 22:15
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 01:55
You want an even funnier picture?
A few months ago I wanted to play something on DS but was bored with the games I had.I asked my son if he had anything good I could play,and he loaned me a DS game of his.I looked at it in his hand and laughed and laughed and laughed.He said..."Dad,just give it a chance,it's a great game".I grudgingly started playing it,got hooked,and played it every day for almost two months.
The game,you ask?
Pokemon Diamond
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 02:00
"Hey dad, I thought you said Pokemon was lame." "Go to your room." |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 19:34
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Well, so much for thinking Jody was badass.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 19:52
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but Pokemon IS badass, geez My Feraligatr in Gold was named Doctor Badass, in fact -------------
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 12 2008 at 19:55
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For Christmas my dad got a N64 off ebay with The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina. The amount he's played that game I sometimes wonder who the gift was for.  I haven't played any other Zelda games so I can't vote. |
Posted By: SoundsofSeasons
Date Posted: January 13 2008 at 02:04
Although 95% of people would agree with you, including me, I believe it deserved that title in the 90's.
In the 2000's my nominations go to
Resident Evil 4- almost absolute perfection, and my pick for best of 2000's. The over the shoulder 3rd person shooters of today owe a lot to this game, including such greats as Gears of War.
Halo- it re-invented console first-person shooters. Online multiplayer took off on consoles because of this game.
Half-Life- For it's interactive cut-scenes and inventive gameplay with realistic havok real world physics. Plus it branched out into Counter-Strike, and Team Foretress as well.
God of War- Taking button mashing action games to a level that is more than just an excuse for a combo-attack game.
Metroid Prime- For it's beautiful atmospheric enviroments and gameplay that truly makes you believe you are alone on a dangerous planet.
Grand Theft Auto- Although it's premise may be controversial it basically invented the 'go anywhere and do anything' sandbox gameplay.
Though some more recent games are also have a fair chance for best game of 2000's...
Bioshock- Although it may be too early to tell, this game obviously has a lot going for it. Engaging storyline, fresh and original art-deco art style, extremely scary and realistic characters and sounds in already extremely frightenening atmosphere (and ive played resident evil 4) of course what do you expect from the guys that brough you System Shock on the PC.
Mario Galaxy- How long has it been since a truly great platformer has come out? Well, really not since Mario 64 on the Nintendo 64. That game basically re-invented the platformer with perfect controls, a perfect camera, and just plain fun as hell gameplay. This game takes that perfect time tested gameplay and turns it on its head. Have you ever seen a game where you run full circle around planets and planetoids without ever having to adjust the camera, and having zero gravity? If you own a wii, get this game, please God get this game. FORGET mario party, rayman raving rabbits, and movie licenced games... they suck!
...there may be a couple others, but really these are the only two I think deserve to be listed in the runnings.
Maybe I should just make my own post about this topic...
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 12:31
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I have never played a Zelda game. Can this Ocarina game be played in the computer?
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 17:30
| ^^ Doesn't matter, get an N64. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 20:50
Yes, but it's illegal to do so if you don't own the cartridge. You wouldn't have any trouble finding it on a torrent site, but that's illegal. ------------- |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 21:56
So much for the dark, menacing avatar...
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 21:57
| It's a classic, though. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 19 2008 at 21:58
Buy a Wii (if you can get one) and download the game.. Or buy a used gamecube and buy the version.. or buy an old n64 and buy the game... That game is so absolutely fantastically wonderful that if you manage to play it in a toaster, it would be worth it. -------------
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:14
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löl you kids dont know what your are talking about! A link to the past for the Snes was is and will forever be by far the best zelda game. yes the follow ups was good i played and liked em all, but nothing came close to zelda III.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: January 23 2008 at 23:35
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Whats true about a link to the past is that it's basically as dark as Ocarina. -------------
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: January 24 2008 at 06:59
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1) A Link to the Past 2) The Windwaker 3) Ocarina of Time 4) Twilight Princess I liked TP but it was a bit linear and the the dark world bug thing was annoying (Metroid Prime 2, anyone?) Ok it wasn't as bad as Prime 2, but still I enjoyed the light world much more, mainly cuz I could see.I dunno, I need to play it again to make a decision, as school made it take forever to play thru the first time. |
Posted By: fs_tol
Date Posted: January 25 2008 at 00:41
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Where's Link's Awakening ? ------------- http://www.imageshack.us/" rel="nofollow"> 
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