Some of the reviewers deserve to be shot.
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Topic: Some of the reviewers deserve to be shot.
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Subject: Some of the reviewers deserve to be shot.
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 03:22
| A good example is the person who reviewed Mars Volta's Frances The Mute album... twice. |
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Posted By: The-Bullet
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 03:29
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thrice ------------- 
"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?" |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 03:44
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7305"> MARS VOLTA, THE - Frances The Mute Review by aenimated @ 12:27:09 AM EST, 2005-03-20  — After hearing so much about these guys, I decided to get one of their albums, what I was treated with was a hour session of the WORST prog-rock has to offer. The singer for the Mars Volta (some stupid name like Omar or Cedric or something), sounds like a girl, if I heard this on the radio without listening to deeply I would think that the vocalist is a girl, but surprise surprise, it's some faggot with an afro. The whole CD manages to crap on about some spanish crap or another, I'm sure all the pseudo-intellectuals are going to rush out, listen to this crap and analyze it's crappy features. Jesus, if only they played more Opeth on the radio instead of this overused trash. ___
I agree that the album is boll*x and that the emperor is indeed naked. But the singer doesn't sound like a girl but like a braindamaged Robert Plant.
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 03:53
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6209"> PINK FLOYD - The Delicate Sound of Thunder Review by Pink Floyd fan @ 4:50:59 PM EST, 2005-03-19  — How can anybody say it's one of Pink Floyd's best albums?! I heard just one song of it- "Learning to Fly"-OH MY GOD! Even I could play it better. I have all of Pink Floyd, except for that album. Even though it's brilliantly planned, the band should review how to play instruments and sing. Personally, I judge the music itself, no matter how complicated it is or how it's planned out. Plus, the only worthy Pink Floyd album after Roger left is "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason". Pink Floyd is only Floyd without Waters. ___
Another highlight. The two closing sentences are amazingly misplaced (says my handbook of textual coherence).
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Posted By: DepthCharge
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 03:57
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I wouldn't review TMV yet... to me Frances the Mute is a very hard one to get into, but admittedly it does have its brilliant parts. Would take a lot more time for me to digest, but it just COULD turn out to be a "grower"... As for the reviews meant here, they tend to turn the review section of this site into a joke and a bad one at that. |
Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:05
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OPETH - Damnation Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:08
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Moderators ohoy! These "funny" reviews IMO should be deleted!!  |
Posted By: DepthCharge
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:10
Errrm right... laughable indeed!
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Miaugion wrote:Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:13
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I'm sure those will be deleted. I guess the Moderators are sleeping as the time is 4 am in USA.
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:31
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One of the worst consecutive series of reviews I've seen yet. How disillusioning; not just stupid but also sporadically offensive.
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 04:56
| The KC reviewer actually didn't speak out of his ass. He's also the only one among mentioned who was given some brain cells by God. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 05:00
I'm beginning to think that maybe you're not so gentle after all Ronnie..  
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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 05:33
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The mental image I have of reviewers like this is that of some spotty 14-year old kid who's sitting alone in his room behind his pc, he obviously has no friends and certainly no girlfriend (who wants some ugly retard like that). The kids at school laugh at him because he's bad at sports and his mother provided him with extremely bad taste in clothing. His parents want him to be a rocket scientist or a real smooth lawyer, but he'll probably end up like an third grade employee in a grocery store instead. Frustrated as he is he alternates his hourlong obsessive masturbation sessions with writing of his anger with real lame reviews on random sites hoping to finally get some recognition. -------------  |
Posted By: Pablo_P
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 05:45
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So the conclusion is: " KING CRIMSON - The Power To Believe" is a must
for TOOL's fans? That's very interesting... Sorry, I don't understand
American English... Piwa lej! ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=2177 - -
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 06:10
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Your English is fine, Pablo...that's exactly what the reviewer is saying. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 06:25
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RHUBARB! A KREK J! ------------- Epic. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 07:19
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PLEASE delete these reviews! but i was wondering, if they do get deleted does the score they gave the album still add up on the ratings scale, cos otherwise opeth and volta are gonna get loadsa unneccesary 0/5 ratings ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Miaugion
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 07:45
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Now the reviews are gone. But the good/serious King Crimson review is gone also. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 08:48
Luckily they don't! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 10:09
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 12:21
| What is the problem with the KC one? It's not all that well-written and does meander onto other topics somewhat, but I hardly see that as a candidate for deletion. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 13:24
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I think if you are offended, your dog is offended, don't agree with it, you parakeet doesn't agree with it or see some innacuracies in a review rather than howl and yowl about it send a PM to Max or maani and let them take care of it. And I agree with Mr. Goose that there is really nothing wrong with the KC review. If the guy hadn't submitted those The Mars Volta reviews nobody would have said anything about the Power To Believe review. ------------- |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 14:05
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There were different origins of this name. It obviously is a mix between Gentle Giant and a great singer Ronnie James Dio, who is far from being a giant. I would also like to apologize for creating this topic in the first place. You see, I am new on this site and in progressive music in general, and yet I create a thread, claiming that certain reviewers have to be shot, while I haven't contributed anything to this wonderful informative site. I don't want to sound like a complete arse, so I shall just add that most of you guys are doing a great job reviewing albums and highlighting your honest opinion. I was introduced to the joys of Prog music through early Genesis and WYWH/Animal era of Pink Floyd, and I just keep discovering great new and old bands, thanks to you. I even know some bands my dad never heard(Gentle Giant, Camel, etc.).
EDIT: I apologize for my poor English and possible grammar mistakes. I am only 17 years old and still learning English as a third language. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 14:43
It was just a joke Gentle Ronnie.  I agree with you. Those reviews were lousy and shouldn't be on this site. By the way, Welcome!
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 14:58
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Posted By: DepthCharge
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 15:07
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This "poor" english @ age 17 no less... impressive... MOST impressive! Still, creating this topic in general is nothing to apologise for methinks. Some reviews can easily turn into rants or become offensive in some way, sometimes even unintended. Threads like these can remind anyone who wants to review on the importance of staying correct. "Concentrate on the mission Anakin, don't let your personal feelings get involved!" |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 17:39
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I agree, and I feel a little guilty for including it in my cut-and-paste (someone tell me that wasn't the only reason). But I tried to make the distinction at the time I posted... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 17:47
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James Lee: Witchfinder General
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 17:55
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How about Cardinal Fang instead?
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:02
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Or
was KC's Red under his bed. It gets worse.... -------------
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:05
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I believe I've adressed those 2 zero rating reviews of frances the mute that are quite unreasonable on the mars volta thread.
I hate those reviews so much. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:06
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I might do a review of the album. Waffle on for 6 paragraphs about composition and musicianship........................... ..............then give it zero stars! -------------
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:06
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If I really was the Secert Review Police, the power would almost immediately go to my head and every non-five star Talk Talk review would be summarily executed.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:09
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The SeCert Review Police,James???????? Freudian slip or one you strangely thought would go unnoticed? -------------
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:11
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I'm only sub-human. Even Peter the Great has a typo now and then. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:15
Hope Cert sees it that way! Might put you on report! -------------
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Posted By: Spanky
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:57
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I've written my share of bad reviews, I think everyone has to write a
few bad ones before they can write good (or atleast half decent)
ones. But I never understood how people think they will persuade
someone else on an album by simply writing crap.
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Posted By: madgo2
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 18:58
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I agree with the goose. The site loses integrity if that review is deleted. What is it that he says that makes it worth deletion??? ------------- He whom life can no longer surprise |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 19:26
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Yeah there's nothing wrong with the KC one. It's got nothing wrong with it at all. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 21:38
... You speak better english than at least half the english speaking people here. No need to apologize... |
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 20 2005 at 21:58
What's wrong with the KC one is that the member happens to like KC, but
when it comes to other bands he is extremely bad at structuring
critique or productive points against the album or their sound...  He's just overly biased, that's all... But I'm sure that's obvious enough... |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 00:45
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the KC review is OKAY! i'm dying to give zero star (surprisingly 1 star) to this piece of crap!! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Pablo_P
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 07:28
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Well, thanks a lot, James Le... I'm from Poland & still learning
English;) I hoped that "collaborator" didn't want to advertise THAT
CLASSICAL album for the fans of TOOL... It sounds (for me) like heresy,
but I'm just a 21st century schizoid man...
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Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 11:27
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I listend to frances and wasn't impressed - BUT in no way would I review the CD because I didn't get beyond the 2nd track - I always listen to music LOUD and TMV frightened me at the volume I had it at !!! Those reviews were obviously by people who were also frightened, so why review ?? - However - I would be wary of anybody who thinks that TMV are the BEST prog band ever............ ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 11:38
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Yeah they should be reported to the local authorities immediately. ------------- |
Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 11:56
| Not the best band ever, and not the best among the new bands, I dare to say. |
Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 13:16
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Sorry, if I get this wrong. But what's actually wrong with the 'The Power to believe' album by KC? I'm listening to it right now, and it is an absolutely amazing album. Or was the fact that this bloke compared it to Tool that caused all the 'drama' (don't know a different word for that right now, so please don't feel offended ------------- Interested in my reviews? You can find them http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=784 - HERE "...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..." |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 21 2005 at 15:20
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All the KC reviewer was saying was that fans of Tool would probably like "Power to Believe". Nothing wrong with that statement. I think he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 13:27
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http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7289 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=7289 The last two reviews should be deleted as well. The first person obviously hasn't listened to the album yet, while the second didn't contribute anything. |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 14:22
even I!!! dont think that they are the best prog band ever. but i do think they are the best prog band since the 70s. there have been many other good acts since tho. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 15:26
I agree! TMV is the finest prog act since the death of original prog of the 70's. I think Tangerine Dream's Force Majeure from 1979 really defined the end of true progressive rock at that point. There was Marillion, but let's face it, they're not very prog, and their music is mostly crap. That's how I see it.. |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 15:45
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Anyone who spells the words "horrible" and "dreadful" wrong definitely cannot write an intelligent review. ------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 22 2005 at 18:35
I'd be more worried about the content of a review then the spelling... |
Posted By: aenimated
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 01:21
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Hahaha, a friend just pointed out this thread. Thanks for the comments about my reviews, they are much appreciated, and I try to be as accurate as possible. I also know the guy who did those KC reviews, I can't wait to tell him that they've been deleted. [4:08pm] [4:08pm]«@ crow011» actually, your review hit the nail on the head [4:08pm] [4:08pm]«@ crow011» im going to go change mine [4:09pm] [4:09pm]«@ crow011» i did a hella review of KING CRIMSON [4:09pm] <aenimated> cool. |
Posted By: crow011
Date Posted: March 23 2005 at 23:58
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ok, first of all, i have no idea why my KING CRIMSON review was deleted . . . even stranger, though, is that i cant believe why my THE MARS VOLTA review was deleted . . . i said nothing offensive, i gave it 2 stars because i believe it truly is "just for the fans" and i gave a clear and concise reason why i didnt think it was particularly good . . . if this is the kind of community this is that deletes legitimate reviews simply because they arent the status quo, then i believe i will no longer be visiting this otherwise useful site . . . i thought fans of prog were reasonably intelligent and open-minded, but it appears otherwise . . . thank you for offending me and my opinions . . . youve done a great job . . . |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 00:35
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hmm ya, I'm wondering too... I can't really read the MARS VOLTA one, but the beginning seems ok, same for the KC one. I'm pretty sure that they got deleted accidentally. |
Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 01:29
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6"> GENESIS - From Genesis To Revelation Review by Tort @ 11:42:55 PM EST, 2005-03-23  — THfis is goodew cause it has PETERW GABREIL on it, HE IS GENUS AND NOTHING HWE DO IS BAD@!!! Especiawly on IN LUIBMO it is good! whies? WHO CAERS IT HAS PETERR GBAREIL!!!! thsi albumsi bettur than wfind and wuthering ansd then therfe were there and all the other 1s with no gabeiel. and if you dont thfink so YOU ONFLY WANT IT TO BE BAD@!!! YOUR STUPID!!!! NOW i've seen it all, yes, yes! it wasn't only in my imagination! now i'm sure that it is possible, and "Tort" was the first of all! yes! sh*tTING THROUGH OUR MOUTHES IS POSSIBLE! CONGRATULATIONS TORT!!!!  ------------- Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 12:12
Didn't knew Kool Prog Guruz was making reviews with another name. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 13:06
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1437"> PINK FLOYD - Atom Heart Mother Review by Martin Janson @ 9:28:28 AM EST, 2005-03-24  — I just got my hands on a nr mint original copy of Atom Heart Mother. I have never heard this album before but had heard that it was one of Floyds more ‘difficult’ albums to listen to. I put it on and was really only half listening as I was working on my computer at the same time. Parts of it reminded me of Zappas orchestral/prog/jazz stuff. After side on had finished I went to put side 2 on and then I realised I had been listening to the whole of side 1 at 45rpm!!!! This I have never managed to do before even after a few jars!! I shall give it another listen tomorrow - surely it will improve. Martin Well, I don't think Martin should be shot, but he should not have wasted useful Web server space with such a silly review. Why didn't you at least wait for a few days and listen to the album a few times to give yourself time to form a proper opinion, Martin?
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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 13:08
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I suggest you re-submit them if you feel they were deleted unjustifiably.
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Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 13:12
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Crow, I tried in the thread with reviews to defend your review. I believed it was a legitimate one and there is no excuse for deleting it. I thought it was especially important considering how positively biased the reviews were--some of them seemed to be lacking in objectivity, so I felt it was very important to have the other side represented.
I hope you resubmit, but I can't blame you in the slightest if you don't, because what happened to your review was wrong. If you need anyone to keep your back, please let me know. |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 14:09
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Id be willing to back him up also, his reviews were valid. |
Posted By: comicbookguy
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 14:42
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I'm a Mars Volta fan and I suppose you could be right about the 'just for the fans' comment, sometimes it's hard to step back and take a subjective listen, so you could be right. What I am absolutely certain of, however, is that your reviews were 100% ok IMHO. certainly not insulting or ridiculous like some that I've seen on this site, yours were quite eloquent and insightful. I for one would like to think that the participants on this forum are generally intelligent and open-minded and the ones that are not are in an extreme minority. It really appears as though someone has slipped up somewhere by removing your reviews, I strongly urge you to re-submit those reviews and more in future. At least I'd be intrested in reading them. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 14:53
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=2177"> KING CRIMSON - The Power To Believe Review by crow011 @ 12:47:32 AM EST, 2005-03-20 — as a young, new fan to KING CRIMSON, i can only hope that this review is of use to youthful future fans of the band. i'll put it this way - as soon as i heard this album (and this was the first KC album i ever heard after being told that if i liked TOOL, i should know my roots) i immediately started an infatuation with this band that will last for as long as Uncle Bobby Fripp lives (and let that be forever). this album is the type of melting pot of synthesized sounds, harsh, industrial-esque beats, perfect guitar and great lyrics/vocals that recently established bands can only dream of hoping to achieve. the sheer scope of some of the songs is breathtaking, as the track "the power to believe, II" proves. i believe as a new fan of progressive music that this is essential to my collection, but realistically next to LARKS' TONGUES IN ASPIC and RED it simply isnt essential. hence my 4 stars. but, if youve ever listened to and loved TOOL, buy this album. Nothing particularly wrong with this review-it was just deleted by accident.
Wish as many people had come to my defence when I was slaughtered for my OK Computer review..
 RADIOHEAD Ok Computer Review by reed lover @ 11:09:41 AM EST, 2005-01-16  — So the Radiohead fanatics got their way and an Alternative Rock Group gate-crashes the Prog Rock party. I have listened to this album 3 or 4 times in the last few days and I still do not get it! I do not hear any Prog Rock. Sure the playing is top notch and many of the "right instruments" are present but this is a typical Alternative Rock package.Political commentary, satire and black humour mixed with odd electronica interludes and self- conscious "anti-Guitar God" riffing. The whole album is absolutely dreary. Thom Yorke is the least happy vocalist I have ever had the misfortune to hear and each song just grinds on and on.Only the xylophone intro to "No Surprises" stops me from giving the album "one star"-I MUST BE GETTING SENTIMENTAL.Sorry folks this certainly doesn't do it for me and I dock one star because I do not think it is a Progressive Rock album.  -------------
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:02
Come to your defense?
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:03
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Well Reed I think your review wasn't cohesive, you kind of slaugthered the album and then you took one star of it because you didn't considered it prog. 1 star or even 0 star would be more consistent with your review
Anyway I never considered it a bad review, I didn't feel the need to speak on your behalf, since your articulate enough. I do remember an addition to this, or was that another review? People are to eager to report badly written reviews, without looking at the intend of the reviewer. In the case of your review it was clear, you listened and didn't like the album. In the case of the Storm Crow it's equally strange, since it was a valid review, and a reminder for Tool fans that it might fit their taste. So Crow bring it back in please ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:05
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yo mama ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: comicbookguy
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:06
Sometimes 'impulse' reviews can be just as interesting as extemely analitical ones.Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 15:07
err I did!!!!! -------------
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Posted By: crow011
Date Posted: March 24 2005 at 23:33
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thanks guys, maybe i jumped the gun a bit . . . im happy to learn as much as i can about some wonderful tunes here as possible, as im always eager to "find" new music for myself . . . we all good? . . . hope i didnt offend anyone . . . |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 06:41
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Just be true to yourself,but dont try to over-impress with style over content. -------------
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 06:44
Some forum members desirve to be shot too -------------  
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 06:47
For their spelling????
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 06:58
deserve.. funny old chap.. Sorry I'm not English.. (tough I'm glad I don't have an English face -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 07:10
It always amazes me how you guys write conversational English so well! I studied French and German to degree standard but couldnt get to anywhere near your standards! -------------
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Posted By: Beau Heem
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 07:22
Obviously, the standard of your degrees must be lower than the standards of those you are referring to. I'm quite sure that your skills of conversastional German were a lot better if you spent your days (and/or nights) on a German prog rock forum... Vielleicht sollten wir uns auf Deutsch unterhalten, oder? Französisch kann ich aber leider nicht... das heißt ja gar nicht... Cheers -eau de Beau ------------- --No enemy but time-- |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 25 2005 at 07:33
Nein danke.Ich habe nur ein bischen Deutsch und vor es war einer langen zeit. The degree studies were in Literature.French,German and American,no wonder I'm brain-frazzled! -------------
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 26 2005 at 14:30
 your flag looks like a chicklets gum package------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:20
A new candidate
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YES - Close to the Edge 
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No this album is [&*!#] everybody knowz thiz, i love slipknot and YES SUCKS!!!!!! save your
money because this album is crap and i love rugby prog rock stinks but i do like some but i
hate yes , a squeeky bloke, a gingerhead woman and a tall gay bass player whatever next
a sexy blonde on saxophone, please remove them
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:30
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ah sh*t, these guy needs to be destroyed... i bet he is gay ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:37
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I know some twat who wants his review stucking up his arse sideways on:: EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) Emerson, Lake and Palmer — This one is for Karnevil 9, i hope he reads it. After some ELP bashing and being told not to listen to them by my friends i thought i would see what all the fuss was about. I only know about this bands sound and career from things i have read on this site, so i wasn't completely sure what to expect. I certainly didn't expect that lush distorted droning sound to kick off the album, that is really nice. There is some strong drum work here but i think it is ruined by some very over dramatic piano work, but i managed to sit through it, once the piano bit is over there is a lush roar that sounds likea dragon waking up and then some more distortion which sounds kinda heavy and evil! Definetly a good start, i am actually impressed by "The Barbarian". The bass and drum work is very well done! The vocals on "Take a Pebble" are pretty nice, somehow it sounds like a very unique sound that ELP have created very nicely here, and Greg Lake uses a different vocal style to King Crimson which is good because it is the start of a brand new sound and prog direction for each member, quite a big leap for a debut album, they have definetly kissed their previous bands goodbye! The piano work is a lot softer here, with some nice acoustics, which i prefer. I can't remember the last time i heard clapping and whistling in prog, how random, but it's here! The soft sound seems to lack direction, going through different acoustic and piano areas before it settles into a beautiful piano section. The thundering bass kicks in and all sounds good. This track can stretch on quite a bit, but i say, so far so good! There is a nice piano climax just before the 11 minute mark that leads back into some vocals, bringing this track to a brilliant close. The vocals are powerful and full of passion and emotion. "Knife Edge" has some really strong bass and keyboard work, perhaps a sound that i prefer. It can get quite frantic and then flow into more steady parts. The vocals work really well once again. The musicianship here is definetly strong and powerful, sometimes it can be scarily overdone, i prefer them in their less pretentious areas. The first three songs are excellent, but "Three Fates", the track that a very popular forum member is named after, let me down. This track is nothing but Keith Emerson making love to his keyboards for nearly 8 minutes. Sure he has talent but he is just showing off here, and it becomes boring. I managed to sit through this though, it gets interesting when the organ comes in but then it leads back into the same old drizzle. There is a really annoying sound, like someone is winding up a clock which quickly gets repetitive and irritating. I would suggest listening to this one or two times, if it still doesn't do anything for you then the skip button is all you need! "Tank" doesn't do it for me either, another let down, this is just some mindless drum work, followed by some uninterting tag ons from the rest of the band. ELP really overdo it here. "Lucky Man" definetly redeems this album with some nice vocals and acoustic work, yet it has a stupid ending which sounds like you are being chased by an ambulance or something! ELP are definetly talented as well as unique and original. Sometimes they can really overdo it and dont know when to calm down but at the end of the day this is definetly some strong, good and interesting work. Still, i can see why a lot of people make fun out of them! Overall, their are 4 really good pieces on this album, yet it is let down big time by "Three Fates" and "Tank". I think this album just scrapes 4 stars.
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:39
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holy crap K9! So even if i say good things about them it still aint good enough for you, what is your problem? ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:45
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You pulled the best f**king bit down you daft c**t.I knew what was coming when you mentioned the Debut...Please do Trilogy & BSS & make it good cos they are more than.Or your dead
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:45
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4 stars is not enough, maybe good enough for love breach, but everything alse is surely six stars or better. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:47
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 16:47
i already explained that to me it dont sound good. It is good for you cos you were around when sounds like that were new and exciting, to me it sounds bad and unoriginal cos ive heard so much since then! aaaargh i am only a youngen remember! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: terramystic
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:02
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Nothing wrong with this review. It's his opinion. BTW For me only "Tank" is a weak track. Everything else is great! |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:04
 KING CRIMSON - Red Review by tuxon @ 4:21:20 PM EST, 3/30/2005 — i dislike this album it sucks and i totally agree with Breed Lover Sslipknot is great it's a shame they are not in the archives and hope they will be added this album sucks and i hate robert fripp, you let me down, shame on you people, i am now listening to spice girls, westlife and slipknot instead. PLEASE DELETE THESE MAANI OR MAX, and get in here and sort out this situation! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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NIGHTWISH - Once 
— brilliant i like nightwish but not as much as i do with slipknot, anyway a good album i like the music a lot keep them in the archives theyre a coolz banz and izz likz zhem, ps slipknot are they touring soon, nightwish are good to i like this album. cool. 
YES - Close to the Edge Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:11
I second that. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:22
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frenchie's review was good.I agree with most of what he said.To me Tank now sounds dated and Three Fates is very self indulgent on Keith's side of things. He correctly praised Take A Pebble, The Barbarian and Lucky Man which are definetely the stand out tracks on the album.
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:23
thanx, but K9 aint having none of it  ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 17:51
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You saying three fates has been twiggling with keiths pipes?Your in for it.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 21:51
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the review is good and informative! karnie, frenchie has the right to express his opinions! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 23:03
Any vague respect for you I may have had just vanished. So you honestly believe that everybody who doesn't share your opinion on everything is stupid? Great... |
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: March 30 2005 at 23:19
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Gaah, I'm left wondering what Nightwish are doing classified as Prog
Metal in the first place...?
Of course I'll get round to reviewing them though, big fan of their music...
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Posted By: eriksalkeld
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 00:54
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Why are there still people like that? everyone have the right to express themselves dammit! frenchie has given his points and his done great, i don't share his opinion by any means, i think "ELP" is one of the greatest albums on prog rock and rock history, now... becasue i said that, do you, karnevil9, expect frenchie will be accusing me of having a bad taste? or bad opinions? or that everyone in the world HAVE to love ELP? damn karnevil, show some respect for others... i am as disappointed as Useful_Idiot and the other 99% people that constantly participate in the forum and visit the site are. Peace Erik ------------- Autenticidad, actitud, pluralidad, espiritu e inteligencia, si es prog bien, si no, tambien. |
Posted By: FloydWright
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 01:26
Agreed, this IS pretty pathetic. There are bands I care a LOT about, but I respect the fact that not everybody likes them. Unlike some people in this thread, I don't want to make everyone else into little clones of me! |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 01:45
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It's a good and fair review, Frenchie - personally I think you were on the generous side. KE9 just needs to learn some respect for his fellow forum members, but sadly, I think he never will. Those reviews by "Breed Lover" are very bad though |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: March 31 2005 at 01:50
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Jo, gute Idee. Franzoesisch kann ich auch nur ein bisschen, aber in Deutsch bin ich ziemlich gut. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2005 at 06:22
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look at this review I am speechless really!
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