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Topic: Freddie Mercury vs Jim Morrison
Posted By: Zitro
Subject: Freddie Mercury vs Jim Morrison
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 08:27
This is not just who is the best vocalist (freddie could win easily) but all of their musical gifts that make them rock legends. In other words, who is the better musician?

PS:I can't post polls in the prog-related forum.



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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 09:15
The Doors is totally Ray Manazrek. Jim is like the excuse they needed to get an album released..
Still, he was pretty hot in the early days, and freddy had his teeth-thing going...

Just kidding (not really), but i'm just not a great fan of either, so i won't vote. That's how big a person i am. Wink


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 10:12

Jim Morrison was not a musician at all, so Freddie easily wins.

Who is better singer? Both - Jim for The Doors, Freddie for Queen.
 
Both are bright personalities, but completely different. I don't see the reason to comare them in any way.


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 10:18
Freddie all the way.  He is probably the best vocalist in all of music and to pit him against one of the worst is sheer lunacy.  He had an incredible range and could go from soft and angelic to edgy and menacing in an instant. 
 
Jim on the other hand sounds like me after I've had a lot to drink, and I don't sound good sober. 
 
As for the better musician part.  Freddie was an accomplished pianist, and I don't think Jim played any instruments.  So again, Freddie all the way.  Finally, Freddie was a much better songwriter than Jim.  Freddie wrote some incredible music and lyrics.  I don't know how much music Jim really wrote, but I don't really like the Doors, so any music he may have written, I wouldn't think was any good anyway.  Lyrically, Jim always thought he was a much better lyricist than he really was.  Although as a prog fan, I love a little bit of pretention with my music, Jim's lyrics were all pretension and no substance. 
 
Can you tell, I've never been a Doors fan.  LOL


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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 10:27
There's no comparison between Freddy and Jim but if I had to choose one of them cos personality, voice, as a composer or anything I vote Freddy...

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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 10:30
I voted for Freddie Mercury, one of the most important musician in rock ever, and Queen is an important band. The Doors and specially Jim Morrison i can't stand, sorry but this band and musician for me are totaly forgetable. So  Freddie Mercury is my vote.


Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 10:31
Jim. Sorry for being stupid and not refusing to vote


Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 13:22
This isnt even a question for me.
 
Jim: A constantly high singer for a mediocre band, who is considered one of the best songwriters of rock n' roll for his lyrics about how horny he was.
 
Freddy: An absolutely brilliant singer who came up with half of the music and 90% of the lyrics for Queen.
 
Guess who I chose.


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Posted By: Hamfari
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 14:00
Come on, Jim was never a real musician, he was a vocalist and lyricist, so the comparison isn´t compatible.
I voted for Jim though because I´m such a Doors fan.  
Freddy is a better singer technically but I like Jims voice more, Freddy is too high up for me. Doors music is also more cooler than Queen music which can be a bit too cheezy at times. Jim is a better lyricist than Freddy. Combination of mystical stuff and straight to the point lyrics.


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Posted By: Philip
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 14:21

My vote goes to the Lizard King, Jim Morrison, simply because he is my preffered.



Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 15:28
Jim, look at the albums that the Doors released after he died. Is that what the people who thought he was holding the band back had in mind? They were nothing without the Lizard King, just uninspired musicians with nothing to do. Freddie's got a good voice but he's a priss and Queen kind of sucks except for a few songs, so, Jimbo all the way, his lyrics owned too.


Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 15:32
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

This isnt even a question for me.
 

Jim: A constantly high singer for a mediocre band, who is considered one of the best songwriters of rock n' roll for his lyrics about how horny he was.

 

Freddy: An absolutely brilliant singer who came up with half of the music and 90% of the lyrics for Queen.

 

Guess who I chose.


CHRIS CORNELL!!!


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 15:34
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

This isnt even a question for me.
 
Jim: A constantly high singer for a mediocre band, who is considered one of the best songwriters of rock n' roll for his lyrics about how horny he was.
 
Freddy: An absolutely brilliant singer who came up with half of the music and 90% of the lyrics for Queen.
 
Guess who I chose.
 
Actually, as much of a Freddie fan as I am, that's not quite true.  He and Brian each wrote about an equal amount of songs, both words and music, and Roger and John also wrote a song or two each per album. 


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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 15:46
I'm not exactly ecstatic about either band, but the one outstanding characteristic that Queen had easily over The Doors was Freddie Mercury (the second was Brian May)

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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 16:53
Freddie, with eyes closed! No contest! The best singer of all times!!!!

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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 17:15
Jim.


Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 18:14
Mercury, of course.


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 18:57
Freddie is really the best singer I have ever heard. I can't find a singer that has all these elements perfected as much as Freddy had:
_Beautiful voice
_Versatility (from the most aggressive singing to the most heartbreaking lamenting to the happy upbeat energetic singing)
_Very big range
_Emotion

Plus, he's a great songwriter and plays some really nice piano (not a virtuoso, but he writes good piano parts)



Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 19:04
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

This isnt even a question for me.
 Jim: A constantly high singer for a mediocre band...
 
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Jim, look at the albums that the Doors released after he died. Is that what the people who thought he was holding the band back had in mind? They were nothing without the Lizard King, just uninspired musicians with nothing to do.
 
I wonder how easily you, guys, stick labels: mediocre band,  uninspired musicians with nothing to do. Angry
 
I always naively thought The Doors is a combination of Jim's lyrical/vocal talents, his charisma and and musical talents of the rest musicians of the band. I don't think Robbie Krieger or Ray Manzarek are so poor musically. Even more, I can hardly imagine The Doors sound without them.


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 19:07
Back in my teens I adored both bands, as I'm getting older I love The Doors less and less.  It's not  like I appreciate the music less, it's just that Jim's lyrics turned from "lightened" and "prophetic" to "smartarsey" and "nonsensical".Ermm

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Posted By: Hamfari
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 19:17
True dat Notaproghead. Don´t forget John Densmore quality drumming also.   The Doors songs beat the Queen songs for me, they had some magic formula or mysticism for many of their songs and the key ingredient was Jim´s seducing voice, I also like their many inspirations like blues, hippie-counterculture, shamanism, poetry and books of the beatnicks, old-school arty films.
 
 But like I said Freddy is a bit too high-pitched for my taste, but what a talented  singer and what a range, I can compliment him on that. To bad that some Queen songs are a bit crappy like we will rock you and we are the champions. 


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:01
I prefer THE DOORS to QUEEN .

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:03
Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

I prefer THE DOORS to QUEEN .


So do I, but I'd never call Jim Morrison a musician. 


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:03
Morrison had some great innovations and energy, but I gotta give it to Fred.. he was the man







Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:05
Freddy's voice is unchallenged. Its unique and pure. and thats the way the cookie crumbles

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:09
Easiest poll ever!!!!! Mercury of course, how can you even put them together...??? jejejej this makes me laugh

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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 22:04
Fred...I love how all the teens go around and just say Morrison when somebody mentions 'The Doors'. None of them can even recognize a track from them. Jim Morrison is becoming more of an icon like 'Dark Side of the Moon'.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 02:00
As a musician, none ( but I appreciate The Doors and I don't care about Queen ).


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 06:35
Freddie Mercury for me.
As for the bands I prefer early Queen over The Doors, but I like The Doors, too.


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 07:21
Freddie, obviously - while the vocal quality may be a matter of taste, Freddie could also play the piano (pretty well - legend has it that he had a piano at the head of his bed, and taught himself how to play "upside down" so that if he had an idea late at night, he could just play it then and there) - and composed some of Queen's greatest music as a small aside.
 
Jim couldn't play or write a note - although he had an ear for a good melody, so it's a matter of fact that Freddie is the better musician, if you take "better" to mean more accomplished, more versatile, more able and more rounded. Not to mention less drunk in the studio.
 
Jim wasn't a musician - he was a poet who could sing with a great vocal tone in a limited register and provide a feeling of great drama and power.
 
Freddie had the drama, the power, a range of vocal tones, the gift of a great and fluent rock lyricist, and the enviable ability to write knockout melodies that expressed the core of his lyrics - and he could also sing other people's lyrics (Brian's and Roger's) and make them sound like he'd written them.
 
Really, even if we compare them simply as vocalists, Freddie wins - to be honest, I prefer Jim's vocal tone and lyrical content (on the early Doors albums, at least...) - although that has little to do with his abilities as a musician!


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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 09:29
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

I wonder how easily you, guys, stick labels: mediocre band,  uninspired musicians with nothing to do. Angry


Because it's the easiest thing to do


Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 13:02
Of course it's freddie, I just wanted to see how many people voted for Jim Morrison as "musician" :P




Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 14:00
   Freddie Mercury, no contest.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 14:23
Winning in a landslide...Freddie Mercury, undoubtedly one of the greatest vocalists in rock history.  I'm not a super Queen fan but his talent is undeniable.


Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 08:03

Well i like the Doors much much more then Queen so ofc i vote for ol uncle Jimbo. Smile



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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 08:12

Freddie is among the greatest personas in the history of rock..

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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:07
Confused
 
Wacko
 
LOL


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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:10
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Morrison had some great innovations and energy, but I gotta give it to Fred.. he was the man



Was he really the man? Wink

Anyway, I agree with Peter post above.


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:11
Anyway, neither one "is," as they both aren't. Stern%20Smile

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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:45
I disagree. Jim is still alive somewhere. 


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 18:56
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

I disagree. Jim is still alive somewhere. 
 
^ Hey man, you found me out! Now I gotta go.
 
This is the end, beautiful friend, the end....


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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 03:12
Oh, put your trousers back on Peter - nobody's impressed.

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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: December 11 2007 at 03:18
The Fredster for me........... but that might be an age thing!?!?!?!?!?
 
 Freddie was incerdible, and irreplacable.  I don't really 'know' Jim well enough, or I only 'know' him retrospectively, maybe if I 'knew' him when he was recording and laughing and breathing I would feel more balanced.
 
Does that make sense?



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