Top 5 ever in progmetal
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Topic: Top 5 ever in progmetal
Posted By: archivep
Subject: Top 5 ever in progmetal
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 05:08
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1.DT "Images & Words"
2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet. |
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 05:25
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1.DT "Images & Words"
2.Queensryche "Promised Land" 3.Sieges Even "A Sense Of Change" 4.Angra "Holy Land" 5.Fates Warning "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 05:33
Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:
Pain of Salvation- Entropia
Dream Theater- Awake
Tool- Lateralus
Symphony X- V
Ayreon- The Human Equation
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archivep wrote:Posted By: archivep
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 05:56
No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me. Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend. |
Posted By: Casartelli
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 06:05
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Excluding the 'new' genres that moved out of the 'progressive metal' subgenre, I think my holy trinity should look like:
Dream Theater - Awake
Fates Warning - A pleasant shade of gray
Queensr˙che - Operation: mindcrime
Including them, The Gathering's Mandylion surpasses everything (in advance sorry for the bold statement, Mike
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 06:41
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first this must probably go under top 10s and lists... then... 1. DT - Images and Words 2. Queensryche - OM 3. Fates Warning - APSOG 4. Tool - Lateralus 5. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element pt.1 |
Posted By: Ahmadbarqawi
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 07:43
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My top 5 (favorite albums & not best) would have to be:
1- Anathema: Judgement
2- Riverside: Second Life Syndrome
3- Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime
4- Liquid Tension Experiment: 2
5- Savatage: Streets
& also: Remedy Lane & Scenes from a Memory are way up there ------------- {Flashlights shade shrunken views Of a red demons foxtrot in brews Guns & flowers crown morning news Panic-stricken guilt now ensues} |
Posted By: Casartelli
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:09
| Oops... I knew I forgot one... ANATHEMA |
Posted By: Darklord55
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:10
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My top five right now, but always could change at a moments notice: Opeth-Ghost Reveries
Dream Theater-Systematic Chaos I know! But I really like this one.
Meshuggah-Chaosphere
Symphony X-The Odyssey
Dream Theater-Metropolis and Opeth-Blackwater Park tied.
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 08:42
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DT - Images and Words
Symphony X - Divine Wings of Tragedy or V: The New Mythology Suite
Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace
Threshold - Wounded Land or Critical Mass
Orphaned Land - Mabool: The Story of the Three sons of Seven
can I also add Opeth: Still Life?
These are in no particular order as thay change daily and upon my mood at the time ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:35
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Despite being a big fan of classical metal, I've only heard 3 prog metal bands that do anything for me - Riverside (Second Life Sydrome is really excellent), Ayreon and Opeth (I can even cope with the growls because the music is so good). Tool are a little bit dull if pleasant and inoffensive, Dream Theater may be wonderful musicians but their singer stinks and their music is full of cliches. Messugah - well they really are horrendous; their music is, well not music in my view, mostly just a ghastly noise of complex, unmelodic riffs which rapidly makes me want to smash the CD player. Pity, you can tell they're excellent musicians on the few occasions when they stop trying to be the heaviest thing around. Likewise The Dillenger Escape Plan. I recently bought a selection of CDs by bands recommended on this site which I hadn't heard; Riverside (SLS), Opeth (Blackwater Park), Ayreon (The Human Equation) were great, Tool (Lateratus) was OK and Messugah, Dillinger Escape Plan, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum (Of Natural History) and The Mars Volta (Frances the Mute) were complete disasters - not my thing at all. I will have to investigate some of the other bands recommended here. I like melody and clear, memorable riffs you can head bang to (Budgie is my favourite metal band with Metallica a close second) so which would be the best to try next? ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:36
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Era V.
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:45
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I could never put Dream Theater anywhere in a top 5 list. Unless that list was top 5 great bands with a singer who can't perform live and whose 'melodies' are as mundane as fish and chips.
1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
2. Death - Sound of Perseverance
3. Cynic - Focus
4. Tool - Lateralus
5. Atheist - Elements
Unfortunately there's very little prog-metal with clean vocals that appeals to me. If only Dream Theater and Fate's Warning and them had singers more like Rob Lowe!
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:42
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
My top-five:
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:48
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This is simply too hard. Coming up with five is impossible, if only because I'd have to restrict myself to picking this few from about 25-30 albums I'd give (or have given) 4.5/5 stars. And just thinking about having to choose out Agalloch album out of three seems like an impossible task (if I pick, I'm not giving other hypermasterpieces the attention they deserve).
I'll remember to think about it though, good thread. ------------- sig |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 17:06
I wrote "In no particular order". And I often don't consider my opinions as absolute facts. We both agree that there are much more better album than Images and Words. I reacted when he wrote "it has not been reached yet",,,, that I don't think so, and is really quite an overstatement. There's no need for much argument really.
 btw, my name is not Mike.   -------------
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 18:33
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No order:
Sieges Even - A Sense of Change
Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
Dream Theater - Awake
Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Komodo dragon
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 19:17
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in first place i will put any album by Ayreon , ARK "Burn The Sun" is great album, i think my cd is no longer in use because i play it so many times, every album by Death is exiting but Human is just.... perfect ,
Opeth - Blackwater park , i think it is a masterpiece and
Pain of Salvation - The perfect element part I .... no comment oh wait i forget ......SHADOW GALLERy now that is a bend that have some good albums  edit no i forgot MAYDOME what great band! ------------- 
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 19:31
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Death - The sound of Perserverance
Tool - Lateralus
Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood
Meshuggah - I
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tounge ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:02
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Dream Theater - Images & Words
Tool - Lateralus Dream Theater - Train of Thought Tool - Aenima Death - The Sound of Perseverance ... I know, I know, it's just that most prog metal sucks  Could we count In Absentia and Deadwing by Porcupine Tree?
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:11
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Dream Theater- Scenes from a Memory Pain of Salvation- Be Dream Theater- Awake Opeth- Blackwater Park Devin Townsend- Ziltoid the Omniscient not exactly representative of all aspcets of the genre but IMO the top 5 for me  ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:40
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Ugh this is impossible...and completely unrepresentative of my metal tastes.
Dream Theater - Images and Words Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane Death - Symbolic Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye  .
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 15:12
You avatar fooled me....
Sorry man, you're most definitely not Mike...
And good answer anyway. Though he has the right to think that Images and Words is a peak that hasn't been reached yet. -------------
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 19:23
Yes of course T.
 Blood brothers?  -------------
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:22
Count me in!
(though I hate to give blood...can't stand the needles...)  -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:24
that´s so gay ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:25
EDIT: (now that I read my answer, count me in).... -------------
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:35
Admit it, you want to join the brotherhood, dont you? Spread the love man! -------------
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:47
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Ermmm... DT, no thanks.
I hate listing my favirotes. If you really want to know, check out Omega Massif! ------------- 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 23 2007 at 09:09
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To make it easier I consider now only the "regular" prog metal bands, no post and extreme this time. But it's still thoug enough.
So the going gets though and the though gets going as Peter Gabriel wrote:
5 brilliant albums in chronological order:
Fates Warning:Awaken the Guardian
Dream Theater:Images and Words
Fates Warning. A Pleasant Shade of Gray
Pain of Salvation.Entropia
Pain of salvation:the Perfect Element Pt 1.
Honourable mention to DT's Awake, V and Divine Wings by Symphony X, Pain of Salvations other albums, except Scarsick.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: November 23 2007 at 12:03
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Very difficult to choose only 5, 10 would have been more appropriate...
Well, limiting myself to only one album per band it would look something like this
- Dream Theater: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
- Riverside: Second Life Syndrome
- Ayreon: Into The Electric Castle
- Symphony X: The Divine Wings of Tragedy
- Vanden Plas: Christ 0
------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |