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Topic: Genesis with Gabriel/Hackett Reunion Tour
Posted By: Guillermo
Subject: Genesis with Gabriel/Hackett Reunion Tour
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 09:39
Maybe I`m wrong, but I wanted to ask this question. Now that their bank accounts are in better shape after their "Hits" tour, I think that they should seriously consider to join forces with Gabriel and Hackett for a tour which could include a full live performance of  "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" album. I think that a DVD recording of this very good music could be very interesting, at least for me. What do you think?
 
 


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Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:03
I'd certainly be interested. I don't think that a full Lamb Lies Down performance would interest me as much as a more mixed set from their prog stage, together with a few later Genesis and individual solo tracks thrown in.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:10
I would definitely go, though it heavily depends where they would have performed. Im not made of money you know, though it would have been depressing if I had missed it considering Genesis is one of my favorite bands!

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Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:20
i would dish out 200 euros to go to that concert.
this year I've seen Peter Gabriel, Genesis and the musical box and all were really great. a mix of all these would sure blow me away. that and the early genesis are my favorite band - so not going to that kind of concert is not an option for me.  :)
i really hope they will reform in the next few years.


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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:38

Nice choice of the poll questions. It clearly implies that if one wouldn't want to go to such a concert (s)he prefers the "Hits" line-up. Thanks.



Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:39
I would go anywhere in the UK to see the original line up. I would cross the street to avoid the "hits" line up!

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Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:51
you're wrong to call it the "hits" tour.  There was more prog than "hits".

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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:52
not interested in either but I love classic genesis , I've seen too many times people get together again after years of not working together and it hardly ever works the magic is gone .. its over. 


Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 10:54
Before PA, I probably would've been happy with the current lineup; however, if anything has happened to this old fart in the past year and 3/4 is how much I've come to love and appreciate the early incarnation of Genesis.

And from what I've seen of the set list, it's been a pretty balanced one on this tour. I wish that I could've been there. I did vote for the Gabriel/Hackett lineup, though.

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Posted By: Lota
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 11:03
I would pay $$$$ just to see them one more time, but It won't happen. SorryCry

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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 11:51
I would love to see them. However, looking back at my luck with shows, I wouldn't get to.


Posted By: proglil49
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 11:58
Why not? This year's reunion was good, and next one has good chances of being better than that.

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Posted By: progcabaretdoll
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:13
if the reunion happens, and I am allowed to go, why not?!!


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:18
Not a huge fan of any Genesis...but it would be an important show to attend because of my late age (19). It would be an honor to see these guys in their original form.


Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:19
Originally posted by White Shadow White Shadow wrote:

you're wrong to call it the "hits" tour.  There was more prog than "hits".
 
Set list copied from http://www.genesis.movement.co.uk - www.genesis.movement.co.uk
 
Songs Played In This Period

Behind the Lines / Duke's End / Turn It On Again / No Son Of Mine / Land of Confusion / In The Cage / The Cinema Show / Duke's Travels / Afterglow / Hold on My Heart / Home by the Sea / Second Home By The Sea / Follow You, Follow Me / Firth of Fifth / I Know What I Like / Mama / Ripples / Throwing It All Away / Domino / Drum Duet / Los Endos / Tonight, Tonight, Tonight / Invisible Touch / I Can't Dance / Carpet Crawlers
Medleys : Behind the Lines / Duke's End / Turn It On Again
In The Cage / The Cinema Show / Duke's Travels / Afterglow

 
Yes, it was a more balanced set list, but most songs (shown in blue in the set-list by me) were hit singles or were part of the set lists of their tours since they became a trio. Most of these songs were from their most commercial albums ("Genesis", "Invisible Touch", "We Can`t Dance"), so I consider this a predominantly hits set list. And once again, they  played some o the Prog songs in  Medleys, as they have done since they became a trio.
 
Some years ago I gave my e-mail address to one of the now defunct Genesis official websites that were launched before their  present official website. Recently, I received some e-mail messages from EMI / Virgin (despite sending to them a message to delete my e-mail address from their data base, some years ago too). They were offering a new expanded version of the "Turn It On Again - The Hits" CD to celebrate their 2007 tour. So, in my opinion,this tour was more with the intention to promote the band as Hit-Makers, not as a Prog band.This tour also coincided with the re-issues of  the new and expanded remastered versions of their CDs with Collins as lead singer. Most albums from this period are from the trio line-up, and most albums were in the Top Ten of the Hit Parade Charts in the U.K. and /or in the U.S.


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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:22
Phil asked Gabriel to join them on the last tour, but he turned them down. 


Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:28
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

I'd certainly be interested. I don't think that a full Lamb Lies Down performance would interest me as much as a more mixed set from their prog stage, together with a few later Genesis and individual solo tracks thrown in.
 
Yes. The set list could be more mixed. But I really could prefer a live version of  "The Lamb" played as they did it in their 1974-1975 tour.  I have seen photos from those days and I think that seeing them playing this album live could be more interesting for me. The live version include in their "Archives 1967-1975" Box Set is great, in my opinion (better than the studio version), despite Gabriel overdubed most of his vocals in the 90s.


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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:33
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

Phil asked Gabriel to join them on the last tour, but he turned them down. 
 
Yes, it`s true. I hope Gabriel could change his mind. His overdubed vocals in the "Archive 1967-1975" Box Set are a good example that he still can sing those old songs with Genesis.
 
Maybe their official website could do this kind of Polls to see that many  fans want this Reunion.
 
I have nothing against them as a trio. In fact, I like some of their songs from that period. I also don`t have nothing against Chester Thompson and Daryl Stuermer. They are very good musicians. But I also think that they should try to play  again with Gabriel and Hackett. Many fans want this to happen.


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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:43
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

not interested in either but I love classic genesis , I've seen too many times people get together again after years of not working together and it hardly ever works the magic is gone .. its over. 
 
As far  as I know, it seems that the five musicians are friends. So, in comparison to a Pink Floyd Reunion Tour with Roger Waters, a Reunion of  the Genesis quintet could be more possible, in my opinion. Hackett also showed interest to do a tour with Gabriel and the Genesis trio.


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Posted By: FunnyWays
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 13:56
They said in the varoius documentrys i've seen about genesis that have come out recently about the last tour they said that they were all sat in a room talking aboutit at one point but peter gabriel had his own tour in the pipeline so couldn't commit to a tour with them so turned it down, they wanted to do it. From thing they have said I certainly see it happening.
 
The last tour was very mixed, went to the London show and it was brilliant, only problem some of there best stuff was after gabreil in my opionion (trick of the tail, wind and wuthering) and while OK itr went downhill after that, well duke was good. Anyway I see it happening and will be the first on in the line of tickets.


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 15:09
It could be the gig of the decade! I wouldn't miss it.


Posted By: keith_emerson
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 15:35
Peter Gabriel's voice nowadays is destroyed. He can't sing. Have you heard him?


Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 15:46
I would literally give a finger to see this gig.

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Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 16:55
Originally posted by keith_emerson keith_emerson wrote:

Peter Gabriel's voice nowadays is destroyed. He can't sing. Have you heard him?


yep, heard him live this year and i wouldnt say he cant sing. in fact i was quite surprised how well he could still sing. so stating that his voice is destroyed is absolute nonsense!


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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 17:16
I'd pay hundreds of dollars to watch that show.


Posted By: progcabaretdoll
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 18:52
Originally posted by keith_emerson keith_emerson wrote:

Peter Gabriel's voice nowadays is destroyed. He can't sing. Have you heard him?
 
You got to be kidding me....
He certainly can still sing!


Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 19:00
Well, at this point in time I really don't care about Peter Gabriel (unless he stops looking like he's 62 years old), I'd be happy with just Steve Hackett. Trick-lineup FTW!!!

But...WITH Peter Gabriel? HELL YA I'D GO! But I'd hope that they'd play a good mix of the Gabriel-era, and not just The Lamb. (But if they DID play just The Lamb, they had better play "Twilight Alehouse" as an encore! I will now receive my comfort, conjured by the magic power of wine...)


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 20:34
Speaking as a long time fan, only if the price was right.  Rather skeptical they could reproduce the magic.

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 20:48

Only if it was strictly Genesis and not Philesis.


Posted By: JROCHA
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 22:40
It would be such an epic concert !

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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 19 2007 at 08:53
Originally posted by keith_emerson keith_emerson wrote:

Peter Gabriel's voice nowadays is destroyed. He can't sing. Have you heard him?
 
No. But Steve Walsh of Kansas had his voice almost "destroyed" in 1992 (in the "Kansas Live at the Whisky" CD). In their "Device Voice Drum" DVD from 2002, I was surprised a lot to see that he recovered his voice. So, in many cases a good singer can recover his good voice. Maybe you listened to Gabriel during a "bad night" or he had a lot of concerts and his voice was tired.


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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: November 19 2007 at 12:01

Would Peter be expected to don all the costumes from concerts past including the slipperman?



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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: November 19 2007 at 12:07
Uhm... Difficult to appraise. For the nostalgic...  OK.  But I don't believe it is a good idea. 

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Posted By: Guillermo
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 12:37
I see that many people want to see this Reunion happen. I really expected this in this website, but I had some doubts, because many people only prefer tthe Banks  / Collins / Rutherford line-up.
 
Gabriel 25 years ago used some of the costumes and masks from the past during the Reunion Benefit Concert with Genesis for WOMAD (called "Six of the Best"). It could be interesting to see him using the Slipperman costume and others. But even if he doesn`t use them, it could be interesting too to see Genesis with Gabriel and Hackett, at least for me.


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 18:47

That time has come and gone for Genesis. Even if they all got back together again, they would find a way to *pop* it up. They would undoubtedly release a "Union" like album to support the tour, or vise versa.



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