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Topic: Talented young musicians
Posted By: endlessepic
Subject: Talented young musicians
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 17:50
Is it just my area of the map (Southwest Washington state) or is there no musicians under the age of 40 (I am 17) who are interested in playing the best type of music. (Genesis style prog) How do you find members of bands those of you that have bands...do you compromise and then try to lure the band toward prog style or what...



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 17:56
Originally posted by endlessepic endlessepic wrote:

Is it just my area of the map (Southwest Washington state) or is there no musicians under the age of 40 (I am 17) who are interested in playing the best type of music. (Genesis style prog) How do you find members of bands those of you that have bands...do you compromise and then try to lure the band toward prog style or what...
Being from the opposite area of the US, I don't know.  What the heck's wrong with us guys over 40 anyway?Big%20smile


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Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: November 15 2007 at 01:31
Absolutely nothing is wrong with guys over 40. They usually are balanced, non-dramatic, have a lot of experience, and have been playing their instruments for about 20 years, but I'm 17 so starting a band with people 2 decades older than me is out of the question. If it were an acceptable thing I would though.


Posted By: jmcdaniel_ee
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 13:13
Good luck.  The closest thing I can find people into is the more progressive side of metal.  I'm 26, and my old friends (who were into prog to various degrees) and I went separate ways geographically.  If you're planning on going to college, you may have some luck there.  The problem is you need 2 things: people into prog, and people who can play their instruments to some degree of impressiveness.  Then you get into issues about the band as a whole, and what direction you want to go in.  I taught myself other instruments (once you learn one, additional ones aren't as problematic) and am learning the art of recording.  Doing it all youself might be the best option if you can't find anyone else.


Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 11:13
the people in my band and i have all been friends for several years before we started our band, so we kind of grew up listening to similar sorts of music.
if you're still in washington in a few years, i might be going to the university of washington  in seattle for my masters and i would appreciate playing  with people with similar tastes, so maybe i could be of some assistance (just give it two years), since i play piano/keys.


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:11
craigslist.
 
I put an ad out on the pittsburgh craigslist on a tuesday, and had a band playing by saturday.


Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:18
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by endlessepic endlessepic wrote:

Is it just my area of the map (Southwest Washington state) or is there no musicians under the age of 40 (I am 17) who are interested in playing the best type of music. (Genesis style prog) How do you find members of bands those of you that have bands...do you compromise and then try to lure the band toward prog style or what...
Being from the opposite area of the US, I don't know.  What the heck's wrong with us guys over 40 anyway?Big%20smile

are we socially & musically retarded ?


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Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:40
Originally posted by endlessepic endlessepic wrote:

Is it just my area of the map (Southwest Washington state) or is there no musicians under the age of 40...who are interested in playing the best type of music.

musicians who play "disposable pop", or punk musicians, or heavy metal musicians, or blues musicians, country western musicians...etc., etc, etc. 
             ... their number is as the sand on a beach...too many to count.

unfortunately, musicians who are genuinely interested in playing progressive rock here in the U.S. number about  ____.

it's easy to get a band together these days [to perform any of the above mentioned forms]... BUT,  most [not all] musicians in the United States - under 40 - are not only NOT interested in playing progressive...they don't even know what it is.
[there are musicians even here on this PROG web site/ forum whose music really isn't prog]

1. Look at this list CAREFULLY: http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp - http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp
2. of the top 20, how many are from the United States ? one band.

My point is this:  you are probably not going to find any musicians there in your neck of the woods who are interested in playing progressive music who are under 40 OR over 40...
and neither am I where i am.

Good Progressive Rock music is just not as popular here as it is outside the U.S.


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Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:48
Originally posted by jmcdaniel_ee jmcdaniel_ee wrote:

Good luck.  The closest thing I can find people into is the more progressive side of metal...Doing it all youself might be the best option if you can't find anyone else.


agree totally Clap
"...the best option..." don't you mean the ONLY OPTION.
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Posted By: Utah Man
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 12:52
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

craigslist.
 
I put an ad out on the pittsburgh craigslist on a tuesday, and had a band playing by saturday.


yes...but i think his point in the original post included the idea of what KIND of band ...Wink
i gonna take a wild guess here ... and say that this particular band probably was not a progressive sound.  that is part of the issue in this topic


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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 13:28
Originally posted by Utah Man Utah Man wrote:

Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

craigslist.
 
I put an ad out on the pittsburgh craigslist on a tuesday, and had a band playing by saturday.


yes...but i think his point in the original post included the idea of what KIND of band ...Wink
i gonna take a wild guess here ... and say that this particular band probably was not a progressive sound.  that is part of the issue in this topic


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All you can do is take a chance and you never know what you'll find.
 
I certainly didn't expect the prompt responses I got for the ad, which expressed explicit interest in a post, math, kraut, prog-rock sound.... but it's what I got.  We might not be symphonic, but there's plenty of progress... Wink
 
Certainly we all have different interests, but there's always plenty of common ground. 
 
Also, if you have the talent to write all the parts yourself, you could probably find enough musicians to just play with you, even if prog isn't their main passion... just for the fun of playing music.


Posted By: MonkeyphoneAlex
Date Posted: December 04 2007 at 13:52
Perhaps if you composed all the music yourself and assembled a group to play it with you would work better than finding a band and trying to get them to like prog.

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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 16:02
what's craigslist???

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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 17:05
with my band i kind of lured them in, but they were music college students and were into mainly jazz and classical in the first place so i don't really know. best bet is to get people looking for a challenge.



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